CapricornFemale
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I am infertile. Will my Scorpio husband leave me?
you could consider a sorrogate with his sperm as one half ... if he is the type who thinks "my child must be my seed"
If he leaves you, it's because of your insecurity filtering out about the Gemini, and nothing to do with not being able to concieve.
For seven years you've been together
Last spring you got the Dx, and he's been supportive
Just months ago he was considering adoption ... still supportive
Recently, this Gem has come into the picture
He shows you the texts = not hiding anything from you
The Gem hits the mark, comments about your inability to concieve, you are shown this text, how else would you know she said this ...
.. suddenly, your man is snapping at you
That = you freaking out, and putting pressure on him about this whole issue because he's known for 7 years that you haven't given birth to one of his children, Cappy ..... so, what? You think that Gemini woman saying this was an epiphany to him?
OMG .. my Cappygirl can't concieve, thank you Geminigirl for telling me, now I should be snarky to Cappygirl.
Do you realize how ludricious that ^^^ sounds to make the implication that because Gem girl has said this in a text that this man is now suddenly going to leave you for something he's been living through for 7 years and still supportive of you?
YOU are freaked out .. and when a person is freaked out ... this comes out in thier behaviour, their tone, their attitude.
I'd be willing to wager that your Scorpio man is being snappy because you are being paranoid and suspicious about him being unfaithful to you and projecting this onto him.
For seven years you've been together
Last spring you got the Dx, and he's been supportive
Just months ago he was considering adoption ... still supportive
Recently, this Gem has come into the picture
He shows you the texts = not hiding anything from you
The Gem hits the mark, comments about your inability to concieve, you are shown this text, how else would you know she said this ...
.. suddenly, your man is snapping at you
That = you freaking out, and putting pressure on him about this whole issue because he's known for 7 years that you haven't given birth to one of his children, Cappy ..... so, what? You think that Gemini woman saying this was an epiphany to him?
OMG .. my Cappygirl can't concieve, thank you Geminigirl for telling me, now I should be snarky to Cappygirl.
Do you realize how ludricious that ^^^ sounds to make the implication that because Gem girl has said this in a text that this man is now suddenly going to leave you for something he's been living through for 7 years and still supportive of you?
YOU are freaked out .. and when a person is freaked out ... this comes out in thier behaviour, their tone, their attitude.
I'd be willing to wager that your Scorpio man is being snappy because you are being paranoid and suspicious about him being unfaithful to you and projecting this onto him.
"if he truly loves u he will not leave u !"
I don't agree with that as a blanket statement ... and is likely the number one reason why relationships fail. People think that what holds a relationship together is pure love, by itself, without providing happy.
Love doesnt' make happiness ... rather .. happiness makes love.
A person could love another until hell freezes over, but, if they aren't happy, they will bounce.
However, if a person is happy, they will move mountains to gain your love.
I don't agree with that as a blanket statement ... and is likely the number one reason why relationships fail. People think that what holds a relationship together is pure love, by itself, without providing happy.
Love doesnt' make happiness ... rather .. happiness makes love.
A person could love another until hell freezes over, but, if they aren't happy, they will bounce.
However, if a person is happy, they will move mountains to gain your love.
"if someone loves u the last thing they want to do is hurt u."
I would suggest that you read these threads .. they are real-life testimonies that contridict the above sentence.
There is the ideal ... then there is reality.
Huge difference.
I would suggest that you read these threads .. they are real-life testimonies that contridict the above sentence.
There is the ideal ... then there is reality.
Huge difference.
Right, you love ideally then .. most do, so you have company.
I would have to disagree with you, Garfield ... when you said ..
"but the husband had no right to bring somebody else into the issue, it's a bit un fair to CapricornFemale for a relationship to work is to have trust he kind of started it by being a big mouth to everyone."
Because he didn't bring this Gemini into the issue at all, so that assumption is inaccurate. It is being implied by you that this man has deliberately breached a sensitive issue, by means of blabbing his mouth to this Gemini, to 'everyone' as you stated .... and that is an uncorrect assessment based on what this Cappy woman has posted here.
This is what she said ....
"She is friends with his sister, who told her about my diagnosis"
I don't think it to be unreasonable for a person who has been trying for 7 years to make a baby, to discuss this with thier family. I'd be willing to wager that Cappy girl, herself, has discussed this issue with her family. To discuss a sensitive topic with family members is not blabbing business to everyone, as you stated .. which it is recognized that the reason why you said that is because you had an issue with a skank Gemini woman yourself, in which you are still carrying around this pain .. or else you wouldn't have used this as a reference point.
"Gemini woman still had no right to be a bitch"
One cannot control whether someone else is going to be an asshole, however, one can control whether they are one ..
"He has showed me all the texts and says he does not respond to her"
There's no evidence to support that he has been one .. he is equally appalled at Gemini's interference into this issue because if he wasn't then he would be hiding these texts from his Cap woman.
Garfield, don't confuse your own pain at the hands of a Gemini woman interferring with your relationship with this particular situation because everything I've quoted of yours above is interpreting this the complete opposite of what this woman said ... and done so, making reference of a skanky Gemini woman who made you jealous.
Reality check .......
"but the husband had no right to bring somebody else into the issue, it's a bit un fair to CapricornFemale for a relationship to work is to have trust he kind of started it by being a big mouth to everyone."
Because he didn't bring this Gemini into the issue at all, so that assumption is inaccurate. It is being implied by you that this man has deliberately breached a sensitive issue, by means of blabbing his mouth to this Gemini, to 'everyone' as you stated .... and that is an uncorrect assessment based on what this Cappy woman has posted here.
This is what she said ....
"She is friends with his sister, who told her about my diagnosis"
I don't think it to be unreasonable for a person who has been trying for 7 years to make a baby, to discuss this with thier family. I'd be willing to wager that Cappy girl, herself, has discussed this issue with her family. To discuss a sensitive topic with family members is not blabbing business to everyone, as you stated .. which it is recognized that the reason why you said that is because you had an issue with a skank Gemini woman yourself, in which you are still carrying around this pain .. or else you wouldn't have used this as a reference point.
"Gemini woman still had no right to be a bitch"
One cannot control whether someone else is going to be an asshole, however, one can control whether they are one ..
"He has showed me all the texts and says he does not respond to her"
There's no evidence to support that he has been one .. he is equally appalled at Gemini's interference into this issue because if he wasn't then he would be hiding these texts from his Cap woman.
Garfield, don't confuse your own pain at the hands of a Gemini woman interferring with your relationship with this particular situation because everything I've quoted of yours above is interpreting this the complete opposite of what this woman said ... and done so, making reference of a skanky Gemini woman who made you jealous.
Reality check .......
Furthermore, it's doubtful that she is embarrassed, for an embarrassed person doesn't stand in a room of hundreds of people and reveal to them an embarrassing issue they have.
What is happening here is paranoia, which is being projected onto the man stemmed around feeling incompetent as a woman.
We have an instinct embedded in us .. telling us that our mission as a woman is to bare children for our men. It would be equivelant to a man not being able to orgasm, or get an erection because he has an instinct to spread his seed.
These instincts are expressed through our emotions, which creates loving feelings in us for our partner .. that's why when we feel love for the other ..... we WANT to conjoin physically. On the ego conscious level we think we're just horny because of the sensation. When really, it's for procreation on the rudementary level, and these instincts are sending messages to our emotions to tell us that it feels so damn good .... keep fucking, hell yeah.
I know exactly what this woman is going through .. I too, am barren. It completely throws a woman off-balance in her personal, intimate relations ... because there is a subconscious driving life-force embedded in a woman to get pregnant FOR her man.
Key there ^^^^ FOR her man. So, if she can't do it for him, then she will fret about him looking for a woman who can.
What is happening here is paranoia, which is being projected onto the man stemmed around feeling incompetent as a woman.
We have an instinct embedded in us .. telling us that our mission as a woman is to bare children for our men. It would be equivelant to a man not being able to orgasm, or get an erection because he has an instinct to spread his seed.
These instincts are expressed through our emotions, which creates loving feelings in us for our partner .. that's why when we feel love for the other ..... we WANT to conjoin physically. On the ego conscious level we think we're just horny because of the sensation. When really, it's for procreation on the rudementary level, and these instincts are sending messages to our emotions to tell us that it feels so damn good .... keep fucking, hell yeah.
I know exactly what this woman is going through .. I too, am barren. It completely throws a woman off-balance in her personal, intimate relations ... because there is a subconscious driving life-force embedded in a woman to get pregnant FOR her man.
Key there ^^^^ FOR her man. So, if she can't do it for him, then she will fret about him looking for a woman who can.
"my man is talking to this skank ex of his and she is saying owful things and it should make us feel, why the hell are you talking to her to make her in the picture"
wow
wow
"blame"
Blame?
Garfield, this has nothing to do with Gemini woman, do you even realize that?
It could be Leo woman, it could be another man ... this isn't about Gemini woman and any kind of blame .. it's about her own fear of feeling inadequate.
If Cappy lady is to be free of this feeling, then she needs to realize that it's not about blame of someone else .. it's about self, it's about healing the self.
Blame?
Garfield, this has nothing to do with Gemini woman, do you even realize that?
It could be Leo woman, it could be another man ... this isn't about Gemini woman and any kind of blame .. it's about her own fear of feeling inadequate.
If Cappy lady is to be free of this feeling, then she needs to realize that it's not about blame of someone else .. it's about self, it's about healing the self.
For the life of me, I cannot fathom why people enable fear and weakness in others for the sake of being held harmless.
Maybe it's an age thing ... immaturity.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with a person doing a reality check for self awareness and growth, you know ... in fact, it's healthy. What is unhealthy for emotional maturity is to find all fault in the partner, or Gem in this case, while holding self unaccountable for any unsavory feelings that arise .. especially when we're talking about these emotions stemming from feeling unworthy.
Maybe it's an age thing ... immaturity.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with a person doing a reality check for self awareness and growth, you know ... in fact, it's healthy. What is unhealthy for emotional maturity is to find all fault in the partner, or Gem in this case, while holding self unaccountable for any unsavory feelings that arise .. especially when we're talking about these emotions stemming from feeling unworthy.
"She need to be shown to see how to understand that"
Shown like how, Garfield .. you mean by telling her things like it's all his fault for involving Gemini woman, and to stay strong by not taking that shit he did ..... when in reality, he did nothing of the sort?
Again, you are conflating your own pain of Gemini skank who made you jealous with your man with this situation.
I think you need to understand here, need to be shown ... simply because this situation is similar to yours in the aspect of skank being Gemini doesn't make it the same.
I would assume that your Pisces man LET this Gemini interfer with your relationship and this is why you are delusioned about this situation with Cap and Scorp.
Shown like how, Garfield .. you mean by telling her things like it's all his fault for involving Gemini woman, and to stay strong by not taking that shit he did ..... when in reality, he did nothing of the sort?
Again, you are conflating your own pain of Gemini skank who made you jealous with your man with this situation.
I think you need to understand here, need to be shown ... simply because this situation is similar to yours in the aspect of skank being Gemini doesn't make it the same.
I would assume that your Pisces man LET this Gemini interfer with your relationship and this is why you are delusioned about this situation with Cap and Scorp.
I find it very disturbing that people would come in here with a total defeatist attitude regarding this man ... fuck 'em, leave him, he's not worth it .. sort of attitude, when the only thing he has done is become snappy when being pressured about a woman in which he has no control over what she does.
The fact that Gemini woman is being an ass to these people, isn't the fault of anybody except the Gemini who's obviously got some issues. Thus far, Scorpio man hasn't breached any loyalty within the marriage, and has even shared with his Capricorn wife these interferences, and has told her that he isn't responding.
His moodiness about her not being able to concieve didn't start until recently, when she started freaking out about Gemini woman. She said that they found out these results last spring. If Scorpio man was having thoughts about her unworthiness as a woman to provide him with children, then this attitude would have become visible shortly after the diagnosis. Fact of the matter is, according to her, he has been faithfully going through this with her for 7 years.
If he leaves her, it won't be because she can't have children .. it will be because she is projecting this paranoia onto him, and most likely accusing him of wanting Gemini.
People just don't work that way, Garfield ..... people just don't out of the blue, for no reason, change on the spot .... if he was becoming dispondent with her over this issue, she would have been seeing subtle changes over a period of time.
Reminds me of the movie Deloris Clayborn .... where Deloris was being accused of plotting to kill her employer, and the way she designed this murder was by means of working her fingers to the bone for her for 17 years, diligently.
Makes no fucking sense .... if it makes no sense then it's false.
The fact that Gemini woman is being an ass to these people, isn't the fault of anybody except the Gemini who's obviously got some issues. Thus far, Scorpio man hasn't breached any loyalty within the marriage, and has even shared with his Capricorn wife these interferences, and has told her that he isn't responding.
His moodiness about her not being able to concieve didn't start until recently, when she started freaking out about Gemini woman. She said that they found out these results last spring. If Scorpio man was having thoughts about her unworthiness as a woman to provide him with children, then this attitude would have become visible shortly after the diagnosis. Fact of the matter is, according to her, he has been faithfully going through this with her for 7 years.
If he leaves her, it won't be because she can't have children .. it will be because she is projecting this paranoia onto him, and most likely accusing him of wanting Gemini.
People just don't work that way, Garfield ..... people just don't out of the blue, for no reason, change on the spot .... if he was becoming dispondent with her over this issue, she would have been seeing subtle changes over a period of time.
Reminds me of the movie Deloris Clayborn .... where Deloris was being accused of plotting to kill her employer, and the way she designed this murder was by means of working her fingers to the bone for her for 17 years, diligently.
Makes no fucking sense .... if it makes no sense then it's false.
Paranoia is a self-destroyer.
He has been supportive all this time .... she makes herself afraid because of her own insecurities about being inadequate as a female.
Scorpio men like strong, confident women .. if anything makes him leave her it is her succombing to defeat based off of this destructive paranoia.
He has been supportive all this time .... she makes herself afraid because of her own insecurities about being inadequate as a female.
Scorpio men like strong, confident women .. if anything makes him leave her it is her succombing to defeat based off of this destructive paranoia.
*nods*
i tend to agree with lk and irish...all too true, it seems.
i tend to agree with lk and irish...all too true, it seems.
Damned if you do .. damned if you don't.
Had he not shown these messages and she found out ..... he'd be getting a lashing for that.
Face it ladies .. you just hate men, and no matter what they do, it's never good enough.
Had he not shown these messages and she found out ..... he'd be getting a lashing for that.
Face it ladies .. you just hate men, and no matter what they do, it's never good enough.
CF,
All the power the other girl has in your relationship is what you're giving her. That's all, don't make her more than who she is. Scorpio men are self driven, others opinion don't have much impact on their decisions. So if he's with you, it's because of his personal experience with you and if he leaves you it will be due to his personal experience with you as well. You're the only person that can have him end the relationship with you.
You have to get at peace with who you are ... there will always be things that you have and things that you don't have. So work with things that you have because those are most likely the reason why he wants a life with you. You can acknowledge the things you don't have but that's all the power you should give to it. Don't give it anymore power than that. A loving heart is what's needed to raise a child, not fertility. Your heart is probably what he likes the most about you, make sure that it never changes and especially not because of this other girl's text messages.
The only thing I would blame him for, his to have not protected the relationship. I would never allow someone to disrespect my home in that way. Even family members, they can speak behind my back if they want to but to make such comment in the open about my partner is very disrespectful. That is so not Scorpio of him.
All the power the other girl has in your relationship is what you're giving her. That's all, don't make her more than who she is. Scorpio men are self driven, others opinion don't have much impact on their decisions. So if he's with you, it's because of his personal experience with you and if he leaves you it will be due to his personal experience with you as well. You're the only person that can have him end the relationship with you.
You have to get at peace with who you are ... there will always be things that you have and things that you don't have. So work with things that you have because those are most likely the reason why he wants a life with you. You can acknowledge the things you don't have but that's all the power you should give to it. Don't give it anymore power than that. A loving heart is what's needed to raise a child, not fertility. Your heart is probably what he likes the most about you, make sure that it never changes and especially not because of this other girl's text messages.
The only thing I would blame him for, his to have not protected the relationship. I would never allow someone to disrespect my home in that way. Even family members, they can speak behind my back if they want to but to make such comment in the open about my partner is very disrespectful. That is so not Scorpio of him.
"leokitten...i agree, why would he even show her that?...and with scorpios supposed 'stinger', why didnt he 'sting' that woman for daring to talk like that about his wife, especially with all that she is going through...i think that it was cruel also....because what he did was place more doubt, insecurity in her mind..."
One thing I have found out by being involved with a scorpio man, then tend to try and prove to you their sincerity or loyalty, especially when you have doubted them before. It seems as though he wanted to show her to keep her in the loop, not hide anything. I think that was an honest and open thing to do. I personally would have blown it off like him. His way of showing you "baby ha, ha, ha look how stupid this idiot is." The insecurity part came from her not him. He loves you and is married to you and have been for 7 years, what the hell can homewrecker do for him? Scorp men have staying power even in the less favorable situation. Now as scorp woman with a sag moon like myself will try a couple times, if it isn't working will move on. 😉
One thing I have found out by being involved with a scorpio man, then tend to try and prove to you their sincerity or loyalty, especially when you have doubted them before. It seems as though he wanted to show her to keep her in the loop, not hide anything. I think that was an honest and open thing to do. I personally would have blown it off like him. His way of showing you "baby ha, ha, ha look how stupid this idiot is." The insecurity part came from her not him. He loves you and is married to you and have been for 7 years, what the hell can homewrecker do for him? Scorp men have staying power even in the less favorable situation. Now as scorp woman with a sag moon like myself will try a couple times, if it isn't working will move on. 😉
sagi
you are awesome. every single one of your posts oozes awesomeness. forealz.
you are awesome. every single one of your posts oozes awesomeness. forealz.
CF,
please do not give up hope. I can't even begin to imagine how you must feel. I was diagnosed with PCOS at 19 years old and it sparked a period of depression where I believed that no man would ever want to be with an "infertile" woman. It took a lot of faith and tears to realise that when love is real and true it can conquer all,as hopelessly romantic as that may sound. I have always been honest with all my partners with the difficulty I may have conceiving, and they have been mostly supportive. When our relationships have ended it has never had anything to do with PCOS but to do with our compatibility as individuals.
That's the thing here, he loves you enough to be honest about what that excuse for a human was saying,that is so positive and in your times of negativity and self hate you must remember that he loved you enough to tell you. Please don't let someone like that steal your energy and detract from your relationship.
All hope is not lost , there is a lot of research being done into PCOS and certain medications and dietary changes that increase fertility. Unfortunately I had to find this out myself as my MD was limited in knowledge. For support try these websites : www.pcosupport.org , www.soulcysters.com , www.verity-pcos.org.uk . Take Care sweetie it will be fine xxx
please do not give up hope. I can't even begin to imagine how you must feel. I was diagnosed with PCOS at 19 years old and it sparked a period of depression where I believed that no man would ever want to be with an "infertile" woman. It took a lot of faith and tears to realise that when love is real and true it can conquer all,as hopelessly romantic as that may sound. I have always been honest with all my partners with the difficulty I may have conceiving, and they have been mostly supportive. When our relationships have ended it has never had anything to do with PCOS but to do with our compatibility as individuals.
That's the thing here, he loves you enough to be honest about what that excuse for a human was saying,that is so positive and in your times of negativity and self hate you must remember that he loved you enough to tell you. Please don't let someone like that steal your energy and detract from your relationship.
All hope is not lost , there is a lot of research being done into PCOS and certain medications and dietary changes that increase fertility. Unfortunately I had to find this out myself as my MD was limited in knowledge. For support try these websites : www.pcosupport.org , www.soulcysters.com , www.verity-pcos.org.uk . Take Care sweetie it will be fine xxx
CapricornFemale, I'm really sorry to hear about his crappy attitude! If he decides to leave you, conceiving or not being able to conceive will NOT be the reason! Believe me, if he loves you truly he'd want to stay with you no matter what! That's what I'd do!
Children do not matter that much as long as there's love between you two! But then why would you want children with him when he no longer seems to care and is slowly drifting back to his skank ex!!?
Darling, if I were you, I'd leave him the day he showed me he's been communicating with his ex, let alone when he started to be snappy! Once I see a man's bad behaviour, no matter how slight, I'd not even dream of being with him let alone have his baby or consider adoption with him!!
You deserve a lot better and he's not worth your while! I'm sorry! The more you show him you're pleading or breaking up, the more he's try to abuse and play on your emotions! This is not a winning or losing to his ex thing, it is about your self-esteem!
Believe me you'll find men out there who'd be ready to give up their world for you!
His ex and sister, esp, since they both don't like you and he gets along well with them are gonna make you lose! If I were in your place, I'd leave him before he hurts me further! That's would shut up his two gemini bitches and he can go screw them BOTH!!
Children do not matter that much as long as there's love between you two! But then why would you want children with him when he no longer seems to care and is slowly drifting back to his skank ex!!?
Darling, if I were you, I'd leave him the day he showed me he's been communicating with his ex, let alone when he started to be snappy! Once I see a man's bad behaviour, no matter how slight, I'd not even dream of being with him let alone have his baby or consider adoption with him!!
You deserve a lot better and he's not worth your while! I'm sorry! The more you show him you're pleading or breaking up, the more he's try to abuse and play on your emotions! This is not a winning or losing to his ex thing, it is about your self-esteem!
Believe me you'll find men out there who'd be ready to give up their world for you!
His ex and sister, esp, since they both don't like you and he gets along well with them are gonna make you lose! If I were in your place, I'd leave him before he hurts me further! That's would shut up his two gemini bitches and he can go screw them BOTH!!
Oh, yes ... he should have hide all of this from her ...
She shouldn't have been privy to these contacts.
Instead, he should have been contacting Gem behind her back, with attempts of protecting his wife's feelings ... and then when the day she found out, which of course she would because everything comes out eventually in the end, especially since Gem and his sister are good friends ... so, when this does come out, and Cappy finds out that he's been communicating with Gem behind her back, regardless of to what extent because it wouldn't matter that he was defending her and protecting her, what would matter to Cappy is that he was hiding this from her ...... then she could do as Cannemma said ..
"I'd leave him the day he showed me he's been communicating with his ex"
Problem solved !!!!
She shouldn't have been privy to these contacts.
Instead, he should have been contacting Gem behind her back, with attempts of protecting his wife's feelings ... and then when the day she found out, which of course she would because everything comes out eventually in the end, especially since Gem and his sister are good friends ... so, when this does come out, and Cappy finds out that he's been communicating with Gem behind her back, regardless of to what extent because it wouldn't matter that he was defending her and protecting her, what would matter to Cappy is that he was hiding this from her ...... then she could do as Cannemma said ..
"I'd leave him the day he showed me he's been communicating with his ex"
Problem solved !!!!
To say that he should have referred to it as garbage from Gem is a backwards suggestion to infer that he thought it not to be garbage.
What he should have done is exactly what he did.
He got communication from an ex, while married to Cap .. his place if he is to be loyal IS to inform his wife of this contact .. on the spot.
If you think he shouldn't have made his wife privy to this contact from an ex ... would explain why you have a long-term boyfriend, and keep secret from him why you plan lunches with other men ... because you have no clue what loyalty means, irish.
She is his wife .... she has every right to know when women are contacting him behind her back, especially an ex. If you don't know that .. then it explains a lot why you can't keep a man loyal to you, and would choose to spend holidays without you.
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