I need some good advice....

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I just want to know what you Scorps would do in this situation. I'm....whatever with this pisces. cant say we're together cos we dont do anything together anymore, no matter what i suggest. we barely talk. the only time she calls me is when she has something to complain about. i bust my ass but she complains that this isnt right and that is how she likes it. i know the real problem is that she is spoiled and expects people to jump when she says so. im not the one for all of that, and she knows. i feel she tries to purposely go against me in when it comes to everything now. she's bored, but she doesnt want to spend time with me - she said it from her own mouth. that's cool, being who i am i keep it moving. then pisces calls me up saying im not there for her and i dont let her get her feelings out. yet, im here....im free...i always offer my time...constantly telling her to just come to me and talk to me. noooo, she prefers to get attitudes and yell. she talks sh*t about me behind my back to her friends, and i've done nothing to this girl but try to love her. i have a nasty temper, but i continue to curb it and letting the bullsh*t roll off my back. i guess that's what you do when you love someone. but, seriously i've been having violent thoughts about laying hands on her, and i dont even want to do that. i tell her all the time if she's not happy. she can leave bcos i dont believe in hilding anyone back. yet she doesnt. she's threatens to and calls me up saying she's busy and has things to do, or she's going out so she's making conversation quick. i'm like, why the hell are you calling me? just go. in the beginning, it was decent, despite the fact that she entered into this union lying to me. her excuse for every lie is that she's scared i'd get mad at her, and that i'm intimidating. yet, when she gets the slightest attitude she can curse and blow up at me. that's not how you treat someone you claim to be intimidating. if i leave, she hangs on, but if i get close she backs up and says im too clingy. SHE'S the one who came to me in the first place, but when i try to return her love, im picky. WHAT TO DO?

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Oooh I can't stand being told im intimidating by a partner, especially when I try so hard to not get angry. I got that from my last partner and he had never seen me in a bad mood...so it was pretty offensive.

anyway...when she complains to you about things are you sure she's complaining about YOU? I've been reading a book and it says that quite often when woman say things that they don't like, are upset about, are fed up with, it can come across as if we are saying it's THEIR fault...when in actual fact we're just venting how we feel for that moment.

When she says your not there for her and don't let her get her feelings out...maybe she means she complains about things and you try to explain it all away...making it rational or giving good excuses of why things are how they are. When she may just want to feel heard...and she's not actually blaming you intentionally...

I don't know...it's kind of hard to explain because I'm just trying to relay what I've read and not actually speaking from experience.

She probaby calls you and tells you she's making the convo quick because she actually wants to talk to you...even if just for a minute..just to say "Hi, Bye."

But lying and saying she thought you might get mad at her, or whatever, is not a good enough excuse. She should have given you the chance to react. She had no idea if you would get mad or not but she was taking your right to your feelings away by lying. I always tell people, when I realise they've done similar things to me, to not judge me on past peoples reactions. I'm different, therefore I think and react differently, and I deserve the right to know all of the information and decide for myself what to do with it.

If I were you I would tell her you have no idea what she wants from you. You love her, you want her to be happy, but you can't do that if you don't understand what's going on. Try to find a way where you guys can communicate clearly and calmly. If she tells you, listen, and don't make excuses (or get defensive in other words), but make sure YOU are heard too. However, if she's still lying then I would just leave her. You can't have clear communication and understanding when one (or in some cases both) person is lying.
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lmao! you guys are crazy! but Typical Scorp made some good points. she does attack me, and i know when a woman is venting in general or just venting about me.

as for me being a doormat - i dont see it that way. i do have an angry past mixed with violence and revenge. i had to learn how to control my anger and emotions. lucky for her i maintain very well because if this was the old me, the bitch teeth would have been knocked down her throat with her body laying mangled somewhere in a ditch. i have taken it there with ppl before, and she knows this. i think she sees me trying to rise above and become the 'phoenix' and this makes her want to challenge me. i tolerate her because i know deep down she's no match for me. she's smaller than me, very fragile and has weak mentality. if i punched her, i'd probably kill her. i dont want to go thru all of that because this pisces isnt worth it.

everevolving - she IS damaged goods! and reverse that. her daddy gives her anything she wants. its her mother she has issues with. her mother abandoned her and she acts like she's fucked up from that.

she told me stories about past relationships with past lovers - she said they all cheated on her, and they physically harmed her, often to extreme punishment. i can see why, because of her damn mouth. she talks to ppl like she's better than them and acts like she can walk on them. but despite this i took pity on the little bitch. i know me putting her head thru a wall wouldnt make it any better. but now im starting to rethink other wise. since she wont leave me alone and keeps forcing her way into my life, i think im ging to have to dish out brutal punishment. im trying not to because when i let loose, i really let go. amazing how i've avoided being locked up all this time.

you all are right tho, i need someone that can truly love me and treat me like such, instead of just saying 'i love you' but putting me through hell. fuck a pisces. dont even know which way it wants to fucking swim!
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her birth chart holds A LOT of pisces in it. she was born on the first day pisces hit - feb. 20, 1986. i've been wondering about the love aspects because her venus is in pisces but mine is in capricorn. scorp and pisces are supposed to be this whimsical couple. its nothing but a bunch o bullshit and let downs. maybe if i was with a MATURE person instead of a fucking brat then maybe we'd click. like i said it's too late. fuck pisces.
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Umm first of all...no matter what kind of mouth a person has they don't deserve to be abused. Second of all if you're having such violent thoughts/feelings of this person then you need to separate yourself from her. I don't believe it when people say that they can't get someone out of their life because the other person won't go away or whatever. There are steps you can take to get her out of your life...safe steps. Now of course if they were a dangerous stalker or whatever it would be hard...but if it's just a 'normal' person then that wouldn't be the case.

You talk down about her a lot so I don't even understand why you are with her. Why be with someone you can't stand?

She's probably not damaged goods. She's probably just been in some really horrible relationships and noone has told her her worth, so she keeps finding herself in relationships that play out in similar ways. Just like you explain your past of relationships where your violence and such have been expressed...you also find yourself in relationships that play out in similar ways. The fact that you say you've managed to NOT go that far this time is good...but you both are still playing out a similar story.

Also be aware that with that anger you have you may be expressing it emotionally or mentally..or even verbally instead of physically.

Basically, to me, it sounds like your both not the best match for each other. You BOTH have things to work on and it may be difficult to do that being together... unless you guys are able to go to couples therapy and figure out a way that you two can break your habits together. I personally feel it might be too risky, for the both of you, to stay together.

I didn't realise you were female when I wrote my first reply so pretty much pretend I never even wrote what I did...because that was the communication between male and female.
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first off i am no bully. she likes to pick on me because she used to those mr. and mrs. smith type of relationships. i am more of the silent type. i dont like fighting. i dont like arguing. pisces goes out of her way to ruffle my feathers yet i maintain my composure. she knows that im sensitive to fighting and mean words, but so calls me out my name. i call her baby, but im nothing but bitch. yet, not one hair has been harmed on that empty little head of hers. why? because of MY self control,. of course thats something she doesnt have. bully how? i let her talk to me any kind of way, even let it slide when she does dumb shit behind my back like steal from me and then lie. she's the one who came to me, wanted to be with me, said i loved u first to me. because i truly felt love for her, i held back my temper and vengeance. but the more i am forgiving, the more she sees me as weak. she's one of those women who likes to get dealt with and i told her from the get go - NO DRAMA. the only victim in this thing is me, cos after she's done cursing me out she goes off with 'friends', parties all damn night and leaves me alone to pick up the pieces and solve everything. i even come to her and try to talk things out, but noooo, she's not with that. she wants me to lay hands on her but im not falling for that. we dont live together, we dont see each other, so why the fuck does she keep coming around? what the fuck does she want?

i have these violent thoughts towards ANYONE that tries to keep hurting me. i could slip back in old ways and hand her her own ass, but what good does that do? its harder than u all think to keep self control, especially when a fucking brat keeps testing you. she acts so hard like she doesnt want me but when i leave and she doesnt hear anything from me for a while, she always comes back. i really want to know what's up with this behavior. i feel like this - if i dont make you happy, there's a whole world out there for you to explore. we have no more ties so leave me the fuck alone. from the get go, i walked away. anytime she cornered me or challenged me, i walked away. i guess she sees me as weak for that one.

but when her ex broker her ribs, cheated mercilessly, put her in comas in the hospital and aimed guns at her head, guess what? til this day she stands up for him. 'oh he wasnt a bad person. he loved me." i NEVER did that, only tried to love her, but all i get is put down. in the start it was nice. where the hell did this come from?
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and i always make sure to keep any negative thoughts or feelings to myself. i come to her humble as i can and tell her straight up what she does to me isnt right. what do i get? "i dont care.' thats her favorite phrase. if i go without talking and seeing her, she comes to my house and camps outside until she does see me. then she bombards me with 'im sorry', 'i'll do better', i never had anyone really love me like you do so its hard.' its not hard to treat kindness with kindness. ppl in the past tried to do this to me and i had to teach a lesson. words alone wont make me snap out, but they will make me leave. when ur kind to me, im nothing but kind to you back times a million. the only time i get ignorant with ppl is when i know they mean me harm, like physically abusing me. she can be kind to those that did her so wrong, but all i get for my sweetness is trouble. and i dont recall asking any damn pisces to answer this question..... that's yall damn problem. cant mind ur own business to save yall lives. basically, im keepin it real and asking ALL SCORPS how they would handle the situation.

and it doesnt matter if the couple is gay or straight....relationships are fucking hard. its harder when ur the one trying to do right, but the person ur with doesnt give a damn about doing you wrong. i left the bitch, all i want to do is get it thru her head to LEAVE ME ALONE. i shouldnt have to move or change my number bcos an idiot cant get the damn point.
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elle - that's your opinion. i've never had anyone tell me im a bully. why? bcos i am not. i self sacrifice and take so much shit from others in order to keep peace. bully, i dont think so. what does that make her if all she does is attack me? last time i checked, bully means someone that unfairly picks on others.... so if u dont understand that's fine, but dont keep commentiing when u dont know the whole story. im the one hurting. no matter how i may feel or how violent i may want to get towards her, none of this comes out at her. i keep this to myself and continue to walk off so nothing does end up out of hand.

she hates when i walk away. she'd rather block doors and try to force me to stay to further endure more of her abuse. i have never harmed her, nor threatened her. it takes for someone to put their hands on me in a wrong way in order for me to get violent. and im not going to feel bad about it neither. ppl like to try to act all perfect, but they know they'd feel the same way if someone they loved deeply only kept stabbing them in the back. and what sense does it make that i walk away and stay away, yet she keeps stalking me? if yall dont get it, let the ones that do answer me. otherwise keep the bullshit cos it helps neither of us.
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DAMN RIGHT WOE IS ME. cos if i pay her back in kind, IM the bad guy. she's not worth it, and i really really dont want to do something wrong to someone. i've done my part by separating from that thing. so why she still coming around? i gave her enough chances to do me right, but it never happens. so why does she keep coming around me? i could have been happy. i have so many ppl wanting to get with me but i only wanted her. i didnt cheat, lie, treat her bad, yell at her, or try to intimidate that girl. even when she tried her best to upset me, i forgave her. having God in my life makes it a little bit easier to deal, because if i wasnt trying to be a good person, i would have been lost it with no remorse. all yall know how scorp tempers can be when they've reached a boiling point. i want to embrace peace and love, not hate and vengeance. that's all.
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Posted by aPiscesPrincess
Is this your Pisces that posted this in the Pisces forum (from your IP)?-

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i will be the first to admit, which is hard for any pisces to do - admit things- that we are manipulative and deceptive. when we have our own agendas, it doesnt matter what anyone else wants to do. we're selfish to say it at best. we deep down have many insecurities and we suffer from jealousy. the more jealous of a person we are, the worse we treat them, no matter if they only treat us good. we have a superiority complex....we think...or at least we wished...that we were someone better than we are. we can be stuck up, arrogant, and mean to ppl for no good reason if we are in a bad mood. we care about very little, only if its pleasing us or fun to us do we give a damn. the best thing i can say is that deep down, we are intimidated by those who are mentally stronger than us, and we try to hide that by tearing the other person down and insulting them. that actually makes us feel worse because we know the harm we do. but instead of admitting any wrong, more than likely we engage in drinking or drug use, or infidelity to try to get it out of our minds. no matter how we act on the surface, its apparent that we're fucked up on the inside - those pisces who havent evolved and become mature, that is...."



hmmmm something doesn't seem right



The typing is the same to the OP...maybe she's just a troll.
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actually, no. we both are on the site looking for advice before we kill each other. i let my scorpio get out what she said. now its time i get out how i feel. i know i've done her wrong, but i just dont know how to fix it. ppl say this scorp and pisces thing is a mtch made in heaven. ours is not, but we cant fight that we love each other. we cant stand one another, but we love each other. she even let me in just so i can say my peace. i know HP hates me, but for how i've treated her. i hate her too because of how so RIGHT she has to be all of the time. but there is love and we really want help. any reason why i call myself broken pisces? scorp might be a bitch sometimes, but that's the bitch that has my heart and wont let go. HELP PLEASE!
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cant u all see? we're not on here for fun and games. this is the LAST resort. we've tried friendly advice, family advice, counseling. we've tried breaking up, but we cant leave each other. scorp might try to one side this, like she's best and im a monster, but that's not the case. i sometimes feel she doesnt listen to me and just because she's older by 2 years and a bit smarter, its like she thinks she's better than me. i wanna be equal, not looked down at because im not as advanced as she is...

talking gets us into arguments and near fist fights. we dont want to separate. there has got to be a happy medium somewhere. i seen her post and thought maybe the whole issue would be seen better from BOTH sides. so please, we really need help. this is bad....really bad...
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even tho we have anger, she still lets me in. even tho sometimes i want nothing to do with her, i keep coming back. i cant help it. i guess she cant. right now we are in the living room still trying to find answers. we tried talking last night, but anger reared its head again. i had to come over to talk to her face to face because i know that's the only way she wont turn me away. but i will gladly go home and get on MY OWN computer just so ppl can get back to the real issue. it's a pain to be together but even more of a pain to be apart. scorp says she doesnt want me, but she always lets me in. last time i checked, actions speak louder than words. at least this time, she let me put my own side of things down.
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yes she's more advanced....she IS older than me. she has been here longer than i have. she does teach me things, but i get kind of bored. she's more of a brainiac but im more relaxed and like to have fun. at times i dont want to deal with hearing her explain things of why right is right and wrong is wrong. i know she wants whats best for me. she needs to lighten up sometimes. i know i havent been honest all the time and i do get mad and say harsh things to her. i wish i could stop, but this is who i am. i dont know why i fly into a rage. she has her own problems and i hate how reserved she is. i feel like live a little! get mad! break things! show me some emotion for goodness sake! she's stubborn as all hell and she thinks she knows everything. when scorp is right, there is no convincing her otherwise. i just want her to lighten up and get less rigid with me. how do you get thru to a scorp? its sad we have to resort to strangers but at this point we're desperate....
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there are ppl that like to act like they are perfect, and there are ppl who know they arent. i have a past, just like she does, and that i am not proud of. i didnt say i REGRET anything, because everything is a learning experience. but, once you've reached a level of growing up and caring about morals, you want to admit the truth to yourself and do better. i dont know about any of you, but that's where i am at with myself. i've tried lying to her, it doesnt work. i've tried ignoring her, no go. i just want all the chaos to stop and for us to either get along or get strong enough to leave each other alone. we go back and forth all the time - i hate her, she hates me. i want to strangle her, she wants to kill me.... but when we have space.... we stop and think.... scorp may still try to deny me, but every fish knows they cannot be denied. i look into her eyes and still see that love. so....what will it be?
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I think she is a scorp...and I think she really is with a pisces...but I think she's pretending to be the pisces as well because she wanted the pisces opinions...but instead of actually asking as a scorp she's said it as a pisces trying to get other pisces to agree with the things she's said so that it backs up her warped thoughts.

Like...she's trying to manipulate the pisces into saying what she wants to hear because again...she thinks she's better than them and they won't see through it...untill APP came along xD

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poke all the fun you want, but we are two women in shambles. we are sitting here side by side, needing real help. no one was trying to deceive, joke, or make fun or post lies. this thing with us is at stake and being confused is not a good feeling. i am a broken pisces, broken up all kind of ways over this damn woman here. i dont know how the hell she has this hold on me, but she does. and its the same with her. how can we get the love back? is all we want to know.
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Posted by everevolvingepithet
What if they've both found dxp at different times in the day, like one after the other, unbeknownst to them ?


*munches popcorn*
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That's probably what happened.

Also because the scorp is more advanced than the pisces I think the scorp taught the pisces how to type, which completely explains why broken types the exact same way.

It's all making sense now.
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no, im not making myself low - im being honest. or would you guys rather me pull what my scorp did and make myself to be 'perfect?' it takes two to tango and since she aired everything, im putting my say so in it. she's not perfect either, but alot of what she said is true. my scorp hates being hurt, i hate being hurt. we both hate it. if u knew her, you'd know that she doesnt care about anyone's insite or thoughts cos once she makes her mind up, its made. thats another thing i hate about scorp....she's always so headstrong and overbearing. she never goes with the flow of things. so when she gets a little too high and mighty, i feel it's my place to put her down a few pegs so she can she she's not better than anyone. she's s good woman, but can be very arrogant and condescending. she doesnt see that. i am a good woman, but i can be sneaky and deceiving. we both have negative traits, but when we love there is peace. lately, the negatives has just been too much for us. please, we really need help. im not going to try and build up nieither myself nor her. im telling exactly what our problems are...she told u all about me, now you need to know about her. physically, the things she does for me and how she treats me is nice, but she acts like dictator and im little country. i hate that. im the woman of the relationship, and she plays the role of my man. let's just say she acts like the typical man....moody, aggressive, headstrong, and likes to get her own way. the second i refuse to go with her flow, she acts as if im not trying or that im rejecting her. scorp needs to understand....and she doesnt try to so that's why i go out and talk with my friends, or i go get a drink, because dealing with it with her makes me feel worse than the actual problems. she didnt say that, did she?
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we've been together going on 7 years now. so u are telling me that ppl together for a long time dont pick up things from one another? wow....suddenly i dont think these are the right ppl to come to our aide. and u guys are telling me that me being younger in age than she is, along with our 7 years, there is no learning from each other? u mean to say the only thing ppl in love exchange for 7 years is sex? no mental sharing? me not having a mother and being raised by my father, i was missing out on things. she helped me with that. just like i helped her with her situation of having a mother but no father. we are alike in many ways, we just behave differently. she's strong and protecting in love, and me, im laid back and want to go with the flow. she's a worrier of doing things exactly right, whereas im less fussy.

did i make a mistake of wanting to add my say so? is it so unheard of two ppl using the same computer? maybe ppl arent as open minded as i thought.....
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i know better than anyone scorp speaks out of anger. you think i dont know she hates me sometimes? we are both very vocal about our feelings of anger towards each other. i tell her how much i want to punch her in the face all the time. i dont mean it because it is just anger. we go back and forth. i insult her when i feel she's being too much to deal with. she's the one that's concerned over not hurting feelings, but i really dont care. if u piss me off, ur going to know it no matter who u are. how many times we'll curse one another, only to come back together? we've currently been arguing since thursday.... a long fight stretched over to sunday, omg what headache. we talk, fight, dont speak for a day, then call with apologies and promises of working out. she goes out of her way to try to make things right, and i try to be right there with her, showing the same. it's just something about her that gets under my skin.... idk... i really just wish resolve would come. the underlying fact is that the love is still there. it shifts, and is tested, but it's still there. im nice to her too after she's pissed me off. i tell her to come over to make her a nice dinner, or i'll come by her place and try to cuddle her. we do have a love hate, but i want it to be more love than hate....
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so u guys can give advice to one person, but not two? when i get on, its time for insults and for minds to be reduced to that of school children? thats alright. silly of me to think a forum could help anyway. hopefully next time scorpio has a problem with me she wont run to the internet and turn a full room against me. our relationship has turned into a laughing stock cos of this.
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Posted by Skylark
And I got blamed before here for being two different people when I wasn't. Just because both accounts had the same IP. But this was back when I was ladybug162. They just automatically assume the worst.



It's not just her IP, the way you type is like your handwriting...it's different for everyone. Also people have their own way of wording things. It's a bit of everything, not just one thing.