Scorp rejects sex.

Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
*facepalm*

Lol. I'm just getting started. Part 2 better get be good....

What is your point? I did say the post would be "super long". You could even see it in the summary on the board.

it's there. Go read it.

Maybe I'll get some serious replies. I really would like to know if I am on the right track...dealing w/this guy is...interesting(?)

😆!!! well, I was thoroughly entertained. To address the OP:

Posted by intheair

Here's my dilemma - How do I navigate this crazy situation and come out unscathed? I still want to experience him sexually but I will not initiate/ask for it again. Nope. I want it soon as I've told him in the past that he could bring it but the emotional turmoil that he dishes out will dim the experience. I also don't mind keeping in contact with him. But then part of me just wants the sex and leave it at that...see him around and be pleasant, you know? Round and round I go. All I know is that I've never felt this way before and I want him badly.

He's already ahead of this game you are both playing.

Key words you've used: crazy situation.. I've never heard of anyone coming out of "crazy" unscathed, especially when they are a willing and eager participant.

Posted by intheair

This is the skinny on him -
Sun Scorpio 17.07
Moon Pisces 0.41
Mercury Scorpio 1.28
Venus Libra 0.32
Mars Capricorn 13.30
Jupiter Virgo 3.09
Saturn Aries 6.23 R
Uranus Virgo 27.52
Neptune Scorpio 23.50
Pluto Virgo 22.19
Lilith Taurus 5.27
Asc node Aries 27.47

That's my ex if memory serves me right! lol

A usual misconception about Scorps is that because they are considered the most sexual sign, they're ready to go under any circumstances.
They are not Fire signs! 😛 Sex works on a completely different level for them.

Thanks Phoenix.

Posted by intheair
it's there. Go read it.

Maybe I'll get some serious replies. I really would like to know if I am on the right track...dealing w/this guy is...interesting(?)

Leave him alone and find a man that will not play game. Or don't and....well as you stated "round and round".

*games

Posted by enfant_terrible

Posted by intheair

This is the skinny on him -
Sun Scorpio 17.07
Moon Pisces 0.41
Mercury Scorpio 1.28
Venus Libra 0.32
Mars Capricorn 13.30
Jupiter Virgo 3.09
Saturn Aries 6.23 R
Uranus Virgo 27.52
Neptune Scorpio 23.50
Pluto Virgo 22.19
Lilith Taurus 5.27
Asc node Aries 27.47

That's my ex if memory serves me right! lol

A usual misconception about Scorps is that because they are considered the most sexual sign, they're ready to go under any circumstances.
They are not Fire signs! 😛 Sex works on a completely different level for them.

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I get that but he has been ready to go but I wasn't ready. Now that I am, he isn't. That's why I think he is gaming.

Maybe he recognizes that you're not really emotionally invested and that's why he's decided to hold out. Scorp's need that emotional investment which is not to say it includes the heart, but it can't be just about hot sex.

I've thought about that angle too, Fixed. He knows that I care for him. But he's said in the past that if he didn't call me after an argument, he would never hear from me again. I think that my aloof/detached reaction to his shenanigans is what does it. BTW - I am a Libra.

I got the feeling that you were a little aloof. Your a Libra and so that makes some sense. I don't know astrology like some do on here but it would seem to me that your Libra Sun and his Libra Venus should work together. Maybe someone else has better info on that.
As far as who's playing who, my only input here is Scorp's test, and not pleasantly. I wouldn't bother testing someone if I didn't think they would be or were already emotionally invested to some degree.

Fixed,

Does testing equal lies & mind games though?
And at times he tries to sting me - rejecting me is the latest.

In my opinion testing really is, in a nutshell, mind games. Anything that doesn't speak from the heart in an open and honest way when the subject or situation arises is a mind game. I am not saying I agree with the games and am in fact completely opposed to them. In a perfect world right?

The lying is unfortunate. I know from experience that this never leads anywhere good.

The best way of looking at it, is this: If you want to keep him let him go, and if you don't want to keep him let him go. It is genius as far as I'm concerned. 🙂

As far as the Intimacy goes... well I know I have taken it off the table just because I did not feel the emotional connection. Without intimacy to fall back on you really get a good idea of how much of a true relationship there is left.

True.

Ha! Damned if I do and damned if I don't.

Posted by enfant_terrible

Posted by intheair

This is the skinny on him -
Sun Scorpio 17.07
Moon Pisces 0.41
Mercury Scorpio 1.28
Venus Libra 0.32
Mars Capricorn 13.30
Jupiter Virgo 3.09
Saturn Aries 6.23 R
Uranus Virgo 27.52
Neptune Scorpio 23.50
Pluto Virgo 22.19
Lilith Taurus 5.27
Asc node Aries 27.47

That's my ex if memory serves me right! lol

A usual misconception about Scorps is that because they are considered the most sexual sign, they're ready to go under any circumstances.
They are not Fire signs! 😛 Sex works on a completely different level for them.

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Totally agree.

Posted by intheair
True.

Ha! Damned if I do and damned if I don't.

Yup! You really have no choice but to just be true to yourself. If it doesn't feel right, then don't. He doesn't want to now? Oh well, sucks to be him. Take a bunch of deep breaths and don't let him frazzle you. Lol
A good question to ask yourself is: Do you really want a relationship with him? Is he a good fit for you? Don't worry about if he likes you, worry about if you like him.

Posted by capgirl69

Posted by enfant_terrible

Posted by intheair

This is the skinny on him -
Sun Scorpio 17.07
Moon Pisces 0.41
Mercury Scorpio 1.28
Venus Libra 0.32
Mars Capricorn 13.30
Jupiter Virgo 3.09
Saturn Aries 6.23 R
Uranus Virgo 27.52
Neptune Scorpio 23.50
Pluto Virgo 22.19
Lilith Taurus 5.27
Asc node Aries 27.47

That's my ex if memory serves me right! lol

A usual misconception about Scorps is that because they are considered the most sexual sign, they're ready to go under any circumstances.
They are not Fire signs! 😛 Sex works on a completely different level for them.

Totally agree.

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So do I

Posted by intheair
I wake up Sun. morning and send him 4 text messages expressing my disappointment in the situation & how he handled things. I sent a bonus text asking him to make love to me, at least 1 time, that day.

Silence.

You told him you were very disappointed in him... and in the next breath, you asked him to have sex with you.


Interesting.

How long have you known each other?

wait... so you've had sex before?

with him?

Posted by enfant_terrible

Posted by intheair

This is the skinny on him -
Sun Scorpio 17.07
Moon Pisces 0.41
Mercury Scorpio 1.28
Venus Libra 0.32
Mars Capricorn 13.30
Jupiter Virgo 3.09
Saturn Aries 6.23 R
Uranus Virgo 27.52
Neptune Scorpio 23.50
Pluto Virgo 22.19
Lilith Taurus 5.27
Asc node Aries 27.47

That's my ex if memory serves me right! lol

A usual misconception about Scorps is that because they are considered the most sexual sign, they're ready to go under any circumstances.
They are not Fire signs! 😛 Sex works on a completely different level for them.

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Apart from the asc node ...those ones in bold are my signs haha!

Definitely not ready to go any time. If I'm angry or confused I'm not horny.

The Pisces moon is flip floppy the Libra is wish washy and the scorp is temperamental.

On too of that I have Virgo Mars.... On the kitchen counter? Bet your ass the spray 9 is coming out after!

Posted by Montgomery

Posted by intheair
I wake up Sun. morning and send him 4 text messages expressing my disappointment in the situation & how he handled things. I sent a bonus text asking him to make love to me, at least 1 time, that day.

Silence.

You told him you were very disappointed in him... and in the next breath, you asked him to have sex with you.


Interesting.

How long have you known each other?

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Yes, I did. It's how I feel in spite of being disappointed. Can't deny it and I want what I want...and that's him.
He told me an argument killed his vibe for me then turns around and insinuates sex. I was just direct in my approach vs his.
Since he rejected me in a resolute way and now is acting this way - I want to know what's up? Just asking for a different POV.

Posted by bloodflood
with him?

No. When he wanted to, I was not ready.

Posted by intheair

Posted by Montgomery

Posted by intheair
I wake up Sun. morning and send him 4 text messages expressing my disappointment in the situation & how he handled things. I sent a bonus text asking him to make love to me, at least 1 time, that day.

Silence.

You told him you were very disappointed in him... and in the next breath, you asked him to have sex with you.


Interesting.

How long have you known each other?

Yes, I did. It's how I feel in spite of being disappointed. Can't deny it and I want what I want...and that's him.
He told me an argument killed his vibe for me then turns around and insinuates sex. I was just direct in my approach vs his.
Since he rejected me in a resolute way and now is acting this way - I want to know what's up? Just asking for a different POV.

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ok

But

How long have you known each other?

Posted by Whatu
He told you that he would withdraw and cut you off if you had a big fight, so at least he is mature enough to warn you about his behavior. As for not sleeping with you after an argument this makes perfect sense to me. Its not about him playing games its about him feeling crappy after the argument so he does not want to sleep with you, how does that not make sense? To him his sexuality is important he may have been insulted that after you had a fight and blamed it all on him then you can just call him up and say lets have sex. You are walking all over his integrity right there? especially after turning him down right up until then, to him its like you hold the key to when you have sex, I doubt any Scorpio would like that. IMO he doesn't think you take his sexuality seriously so he does not respect you. You are the one playing games.

I see.

But if this is the case then why look for openings after rejecting?

Posted by IrresistableScorp
-L-

You sound like a real prize. Wtf?

I have an idea why this guy keeps you at arm's length. Really? Do you really act the way you are presenting yourself because you have drama queen written all over the place. Geez

Go find yourself a nice fire sign and leave this guy alone. Kthnks

And you could've kept your bullshit to yourself. You are more than welcome to scroll on by if you are too pressed to comment without the attitude.

Posted by starlover

Posted by IrresistableScorp

Posted by starlover
Sounds like you are not compatible together

Air and Water? Kind of odd

Ah an air sign. You don't get him and he doesn't get you. Move on

Not enough intensity maybe? I was with a Libra for years ~ never felt right tbh, only as friends

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The intensity is there.
I think that this is a power play more than anything else. So, now it's interesting to watch him in action looking for an opening again.

The Libra I was with always felt a little 'flat' too, now that you mention it Star.

hahahaaa hahaha hahah hahaaa

Posted by IrresistableScorp

Posted by intheair

Posted by IrresistableScorp
-L-

You sound like a real prize. Wtf?

I have an idea why this guy keeps you at arm's length. Really? Do you really act the way you are presenting yourself because you have drama queen written all over the place. Geez

Go find yourself a nice fire sign and leave this guy alone. Kthnks

And you could've kept your bullshit to yourself. You are more than welcome to scroll on by if you are too pressed to comment without the attitude.

Drama queen. Lol

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Thanks 🙂

Posted by FixedWater
The Libra I was with always felt a little 'flat' too, now that you mention it Star.

Do you think things were flat for the Libra?
BTW - We are VERY responsive...
Just asking.

Posted by IrresistableScorp

Posted by intheair

Posted by IrresistableScorp
-L-

You sound like a real prize. Wtf?

I have an idea why this guy keeps you at arm's length. Really? Do you really act the way you are presenting yourself because you have drama queen written all over the place. Geez

Go find yourself a nice fire sign and leave this guy alone. Kthnks

And you could've kept your bullshit to yourself. You are more than welcome to scroll on by if you are too pressed to comment without the attitude.

Drama queen. Lol

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smh

Posted by intheairI basically gave him a blueprint to my cooter.)

I have to say....I loved that^^ expression. lol

This is how I see it (from the first two threads you posted). Shit happened, you got into an argument, he iced you out. Although you made several efforts to reach out to him, using sex is never a good thing to persuade with...When things are uptight/upset most Scorps can't just jump into bed like nothing happened. It needs to be resolved, put behind to open up for the soul love making. Nothing can be in the head to obstruct (if that makes sense to you). Do you have Venus in Scorpio..(you will understand that then).

He's making subtle attempts with msgs, visits to your work etc...let him lead out of this mess if you can do that. You don't mention what the argument is about, but is it bad enough to need an apology? or an apology from you to him?

Posted by Eris
Sun Scorpio 17.07
Moon Pisces 0.41
Mercury Scorpio 1.28

Apart from the asc node ...those ones in bold are my signs haha!

Definitely not ready to go any time. If I'm angry or confused I'm not horny.

The Pisces moon is flip floppy

Pisces moon is only flip floppy when other signs aren't there to protect it. With Scorpio surrounding it, not so much. (unless a young age is the factor)

oops on the BOLD...

Posted by LetltB

Posted by intheairI basically gave him a blueprint to my cooter.)

I have to say....I loved that^^ expression. lol

This is how I see it (from the first two threads you posted). Shit happened, you got into an argument, he iced you out. Although you made several efforts to reach out to him, using sex is never a good thing to persuade with...When things are uptight/upset most Scorps can't just jump into bed like nothing happened. It needs to be resolved, put behind to open up for the soul love making. Nothing can be in the head to obstruct (if that makes sense to you). Do you have Venus in Scorpio..(you will understand that then).

He's making subtle attempts with msgs, visits to your work etc...let him lead out of this mess if you can do that. You don't mention what the argument is about, but is it bad enough to need an apology? or an apology from you to him?

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That's the thing - having him sexually isn't about manipulation nor control. It's all about pure raw attraction/desire. I've always been consistent in my desire for him from the beginning and I've told him as much - I only asked that he be patient. I told him that I STILL wanted to experience him in spite of everything going to south.

The argument was about his refusal to own an issue that he was at fault for. I just wanted a simple apology. He claims that he did apologize - he did not.

I just used the word "raw" in another forum in a different context..weird.

I guess it's going to come down to you sitting his ass down alone, away from work one on one, and ask him directly. "when and how was it you apologized? cuz I missed it".

However, communicating with him on a personal level (not professional) without the apology you are seeking is making it a pretty dim point, don't you think? Sounds like you need to make it clear a conversation (private one) needs to be had, and get this all out on the table. Scorps understand that language.

Nevermind me.

Fire and Fire = Burnout
Fire and Air = Hot Air
Fire and Earth = Smokey the Bear
Fire and Water = Steam

Water and Air = Bubbles
Water and Earth = Mud
Water and Water = The Great Flood that wiped everybody out

Earth and Air = Quicksand
Earth and Earth = Boredom (think about two rocks staring at each other)

Air and Air = Popped balloon (They don't call 'em airheads for nothin')

Posted by LetltB
I just used the word "raw" in another forum in a different context..weird.

I guess it's going to come down to you sitting his ass down alone, away from work one on one, and ask him directly. "when and how was it you apologized? cuz I missed it".

However, communicating with him on a personal level (not professional) without the apology you are seeking is making it a pretty dim point, don't you think? Sounds like you need to make it clear a conversation (private one) needs to be had, and get this all out on the table. Scorps understand that language.

We had a conversation this morning and have been steadily texting today. We are playing nice but he has made several sexual comments. During lunchtime he stopped by my work and grabbed my belt loop in the back while passing by me. He told me that he had a dream, sexual of course, last night about me - (I think that is BS).
So, I think this was all game of get-back...unless he is getting pleasure from trying to tease me. Anyway I'm done trying to make sense of what he's thinking and/or doing now. Ran things past my Aqua male friend and he has said the Scorp will try me sexually soon and that he just doesn't know how to after rejecting me.

So is this just a FWB? Someone else asked that. Or is it a normal relationship. I'm confused.

Posted by Impulsv

Posted by Whatu
He told you that he would withdraw and cut you off if you had a big fight, so at least he is mature enough to warn you about his behavior. As for not sleeping with you after an argument this makes perfect sense to me. Its not about him playing games its about him feeling crappy after the argument so he does not want to sleep with you, how does that not make sense? To him his sexuality is important he may have been insulted that after you had a fight and blamed it all on him then you can just call him up and say lets have sex. You are walking all over his integrity right there? especially after turning him down right up until then, to him its like you hold the key to when you have sex, I doubt any Scorpio would like that. IMO he doesn't think you take his sexuality seriously so he does not respect you. You are the one playing games.

I agree. U are making the powers I. We have sex when I
Say! I want when I want. When u want it I'll reject but ur a Cookie Monster n I want sex. Ur on a power trip. Scorp don't like it n see it.
What a turn off!

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Say what? O_o

Posted by LetltB
So is this just a FWB? Someone else asked that. Or is it a normal relationship. I'm confused.

We have not had sex.

Posted by intheair

Posted by LetltB
So is this just a FWB? Someone else asked that. Or is it a normal relationship. I'm confused.

We have not had sex.

Oh ok, so then based off the initial post, that's all you want from him right?

Posted by intheair

I wake up Sun. morning and send him 4 text messages expressing my disappointment in the situation & how he handled things. I sent a bonus text asking him to make love to me, at least 1 time, that day.

Silence.

Later in the evening, I get a text from him checking on me. I ask him why he didn't answer my question - he feigns ignorance. Frustrated, I call him and ask directly for sex.

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Don't know how to double quote Twirl & Let.

I don't want FWB but I do want sex - if it's once - if that makes a lick of sense. However, at this point I don't think we will go there and will just be friends. I think he will continue to tease/flirt though.

So let me get this straight, you guys just had an argument and then after you send him some texts attempting to guilt him about it, you then come out with "by the way, have sex with me". Honestly I'd be like what the fuck too if I were the guy. You come off as very desperate for sex with him and that's always a turn off for Scorpio. Scorpios may be a sexual sign but they're also about subtlety and emotion. To him it likely sounds like you're just in it for the sex, and unless this is an agreed upon sex-only relationship, that's not going to fly with Scorpio.

Posted by Whatu
He told you that he would withdraw and cut you off if you had a big fight, so at least he is mature enough to warn you about his behavior. As for not sleeping with you after an argument this makes perfect sense to me. Its not about him playing games its about him feeling crappy after the argument so he does not want to sleep with you, how does that not make sense? To him his sexuality is important he may have been insulted that after you had a fight and blamed it all on him then you can just call him up and say lets have sex. You are walking all over his integrity right there? especially after turning him down right up until then, to him its like you hold the key to when you have sex, I doubt any Scorpio would like that. IMO he doesn't think you take his sexuality seriously so he does not respect you. You are the one playing games.

^^^^ This right here is the explanation for his behavior. Sounds to me too like your scorpio guy is just reacting like a normal human being would. No this isn't about "games". If I had a fight with my man and he directly tried to have sex with me, I wouldn't want to either because I'm angry at him. And then if he continuously kept trying to push himself on me, the way you seem to be doing, I would be incredibly turned off and would feel like he doesn't care about my feelings but is just in it for the sex. I would feel majorly disrespected by that and would then go cold on him. It also sounds like you're a little selfish. To him it seems like you demand sex from him when you want it, but refuse to have sex when he wants it.


Maybe you might say that this is not your intention, you are just really attracted to him. It doesn't matter--THIS IS THE WAY YOU COME OFF. You wanted an explanation for his behavior, you got it.

UPDATE -

It happened last night. 🙂No regrets.

Thanks for all the replies guys.

I love P.C., thanks.