"not really..They just have better things to occupy their minds with instead of mindless drivel"
Could be. I do not oppose to this kind of thought. You may be right. But still, if a persons mind is always occupied with something and they cannot free their mind for a moment?
Maybe their needs are different. Who knows. Experience brings many changes in a person. But we can't force everyone into same outlet. We have to find a middle ground. and that middle ground is being open minded.
We can take this "natural behavior" as a indicator for that persons true personality and experience level. If we make any critique according to this, we will give advise to that person knowing them by 100% . Do you think this is bad now? No. You just have to know hot to use it.
Huh? I read that a few times, didn't make sense..some bits do...I understood the natural behaviour being reflection of person but not the latter part...
"It reads as though you are trying to convince MM to like/accept you or something. Are you that concerned about your image? or DXP image, rather?"
Convince her to accept or something. Yeah maybe some. But even if she disagrees, then I will still do what I did before. I'm always concerned about my image.
"PS: Under all this "annoyance" as you describe it, I'm pretty light hearted person you know..."
I am sure you are....thats why I said you exaggerate the whole annoyance for some reason...like your trying to be someone your not....if you were just yourself..you prbably are quite funny...but when your being annoying..it just isn't funny at all...just comes across moronic..and people tend to ignore..whether you care or not is beside the point..
"Huh? I read that a few times, didn't make sense..some bits do...I understood the natural behaviour being reflection of person but not the latter part..."
I was talking about middle ground. By middle ground I mean some kind of tolerance to a person even if we do not exactly understand whats going on. Perhaps this part does not make any sense. How can a person show tolerance to someone if they do not understand what's going on.
I do not know Missmorals. Sometimes I do not place importance on everything said. It may be looking like "nonsense" but I just do not weight it for myself too much. They did say, da hell with them. I might understand it later. Maybe this is what a tolerance is. But I'm not sure. I just say "tolerance" is needed. But what kind of telerance that will be or how it will work, I do not know.
"By middle ground I mean some kind of tolerance to a person even if we do not exactly understand whats going on".
See!!..you can be thoughtful..getting all philosophical on me 😛
Its not a case of not understanding them Haffo, its probably more to do with being on the same wavelength..not saying one should disregard anyone tuned in on a weird frequency or anything..but i guess its personal preference..and how much one can cope with..don't get me wrong..annoying is funny to an extent but not offensive annoyance..and sadly thats where I draw the line...remember I am a Scorp..there is no middle ground...its one or the other..
"I am sure you are....thats why I said you exaggerate the whole annoyance for some reason...like your trying to be someone your not....if you were just yourself..you prbably are quite funny...but when your being annoying..it just isn't funny at all...just comes across moronic..and people tend to ignore..whether you care or not is beside the point.."
I find it funny. That why I exaggerate (or annoy as you have said). And you are probably right, I'm partly trying to be someone I'm not. But then what is self? Self is all about problems. You want to hear them? I dont think so.
"I'm partly trying to be someone I'm not. But then what is self? Self is all about problems"
Hey self isn't all about problems..see therein lies your problem..your outlook is negative..self isn't always about problems..everyone has problems..its how you deal with them..let them consume self or shrug them off...I prefer to choose the latter..Problems are miniscule in the grand scheme of things..so let them ride...
U know my cappy friend said I talk as though I got a major chip on my shoulder...I had to laugh at that..I am just real.theres no chip..whereas he's the manic depressive..Hmmm..go figure..
"and how much one can cope with..don't get me wrong..annoying is funny to an extent but not offensive annoyance..and sadly thats where I draw the line..."
Offencive is a personal preference. It's subjective. Everything I said so far that was taken as an annoying, is not offencive for me. But you think it is. Now where is the middle ground here?
Yes you can shrug off problems...by dealing with them and moving on..forgetting them...not sit there sucking life out of yourself wondering how they got there, what you had to do to overcome them and then whether they will return in the future...fuck that!...lifes too short..Just don't let them consume you...I can NEVER understand anyone who has that issue...
AB..I like that word..its my word too..
Roxi..I am just talking about Haffo's general annoying demeanour across the boards..not on this thread...
"Do I sense irresponsibility and fairy tale here?"
Not at all...you would have to know me to understand what I have achieved, and how far I have come..without blowing my own trumpet...its not from being irresponsible..or living in lala land..that word doesn't fall into my life vocab...
I think you might be fooling yourself. While you say you look positive at things, you do not look positive at things. You are still negative. But you think your outlook is different. And when people remind you about them, you turn bitter. Just like this annoyance part. You get annoyed just because they remind you something that you preferred to ignore. Maybe they are exactly made to make you remember what you forgot?
"And when people remind you about them, you turn bitter. Just like this annoyance part. You get annoyed just because they remind you something that you preferred to ignore. Maybe they are exactly made to make you remember what you forgot"
Hmmm..can't really see that happening here...you being annoying hasn't reminded me of anything I needed to forget really...
"Yes you can shrug off problems...by dealing with them and moving on.."
So for you every problem you try to deal with are solved? You must be a superhuman!!! I would never be a negative in that state. But alas, the reality isn't that. Not every problem you try to deal with are solved. Maybe they are sloved in time, but you have to see "how". Without this, you cannot become positive.
"forgetting them..."
Okay, I'm not even going to comment on that. That's plain out irresponsibility.
"fuck that!...lifes too short..Just don't let them consume you..."
Life is too short yes. But some people live this shortness well, some do not. And the difference is not always just a wish.
"I can NEVER understand anyone who has that issue..."
Notso...shrugging them off doesn't necessarily mean you forget them..but once they've strengthened your character, why carry the baggage with you..thats what I am trying to say..
"That's because you have better/different coping strategies. Some people don't have any at all, which is how they become depressed."
Yes I have yet to understand/accept this human behaviour...I just assume everyone has it in them to do this...
"Not at all...you would have to know me to understand what I have achieved, and how far I have come..without blowing my own trumpet...its not from being irresponsible..or living in lala land..that word doesn't fall into my life vocab..."
If it's not an irresponsibility, then what does it mean "to forget"? Forgetting something there is exactly what irresponsibility means.
"Hmmm..can't really see that happening here...you being annoying hasn't reminded me of anything I needed to forget really..."
Then why do you get annoyed? You know, a person gets annoyed at their insecurities only!!! ONLY!! If you are sure about what you know, my words would be just an air.
How are you classifying "forgetting" as irresponsibility....I realy don't get that..Forgetting is moving on from it...how that is irresponsible is beyond me..
"Then why do you get annoyed? You know, a person gets annoyed at their insecurities only!!! ONLY!! If you are sure about what you know, my words would be just an air."
I disagree...a person doesn't get annoyed cos of their own insecurities..It all boils down to tolerance levels...I keep telling you...Its like when someone in the group laughs and its fake..I get irritated cos its not real...
"Notso...shrugging them off doesn't necessarily mean you forget them..but once they've strengthened your character, why carry the baggage with you..thats what I am trying to say.."
Strenghtening your character isnt yet means end. Why? Because the problem has to be solved. Otherwise, if the problem stills, then it means "you need to strenghten more your character", you can't move on. Othewise it comes to "forgetting" again which is irresponsibility.
"Yes I have yet to understand/accept this human behaviour...I just assume everyone has it in them to do this..."
"How are you classifying "forgetting" as irresponsibility....I realy don't get that..Forgetting is moving on from it...how that is irresponsible is beyond me.."
Forgetting BEFORE the solution comes, is irresponsibility. After the solution comes, it's stupidity.
"I disagree...a person doesn't get annoyed cos of their own insecurities..It all boils down to tolerance levels...I keep telling you...Its like when someone in the group laughs and its fake..I get irritated cos its not real..."
Why somebody's fakeishness bothers you? They work against themselves, not against you. If they damage only to themselves, why do you get angry for them? It's also a kind of insecurity.
Haffo: "Strenghtening your character isnt yet means end. Why? Because the problem has to be solved. Otherwise, if the problem stills"
When I say shrug them off...it means problem dealt with, character strengthened, chapter closed..Every human being is capable of overcoming problems..just put your mind to it..and hey presto!..bobs your uncle...done!..
God this is getting boring now...sorry...I am going to bed...too tired..
"When I say shrug them off...it means problem dealt with, character strengthened, chapter closed..Every human being is capable of overcoming problems..just put your mind to it..and hey presto!..bobs your uncle...done!.."
Aha, this means you deal with all problems end them and now you have no problems to worry about at all.
Show me such a person. Show me someone who absolutely have no problems. NONE! There is no such a person.
Notso: "MM, I do think you can move on from a situation without forgetting it."
I don't see anything wrong with it either..whatever floats your boat...I just don't understand why you would want to remember a problem..Hmm..ok..whatever really...
Also, strenghtening your character and moving on for solutions while problem persist is also a kind of irresponsibility. After all, you will always have to check your solutions with the problem itself, which means "reality check" again. So, at the end, whatever you do, unless you reach a certain level of problems (minimalising them to certain level) you cannot be positive.
"I don't see anything wrong with it either..whatever floats your boat...I just don't understand why you would want to remember a problem..Hmm..ok..whatever really..."
Remembering them means you havent solved them yet.
Haffo: "Maybe some people are just too stupid to let things go entirely?"
Maybe some people just haven't got the tolerance for idiots..