Scorpio - Gemini

Have any of you fellow Scorps ever dealt with a Gemini who's outta control the lying tip? I've had a business partner for the past few years and he just amazes me with his outright dishonesty. He keeps going and going even after people have stopped trusting him all together, thinking he can talk his way through any issues he's caused. He seems to love pitting people against each other too. Causing pointless drama. When I picture him in my mind I think of a little kid throwing firecrackers at a group of adults and then darting off, snickering.

I look at the zodiac as just something interesting and try not to judge people by their sign but this dude def scarred me. I was talking to a girl last night at a party and when she said she was a Gemini I was like, "Pzzzzzzz out"

man, I know this one gem chick who is a habitual liar, and she is so messy. I stopped talking to her because I was cool on all the drama, and just recently I briefly spoke to her and she lied to me about something so pointless. I knew she was lying, but I checked it out anyway to confirm that she was full of shit and indeed she was...what the hell was the point? Just keep it real; it was something so trivial, smh.

Posted by ellessque
geminis *shudder*

they are everything you think they are and as soon as you think you may have them figured out they turn into someone else.

true jekyl and hyde.

What was your experience, elle?

Posted by ellessque

seriously though, gems and scorps usually are great friends on the "surface" but they are just too shallow for us to be anything more.

Yep. I get bored of them easily. And they get clingy. Yuck.

I think anyone that's under the age of 30 regardless of sign is damaged. Society has really screwed you guys. Sad actually, because you never get to know a real person anymore. Just an image personified from what the lit square box says. Too bad, you guys are missing out on some good people.

A clingy Gem? I have yet to see anyone that wasn't clingy to someone that paints false images. People today (regardless of sign) cling to lies far easily than they cling to reality. Being clingy is not even a Gem trait, at all. Mooch? That comes from upbringing. I come from a strong Matriarchal family and I support 3 families. I wish I could mooch off of somebody. My Scorpio cousin is begging me now for 30k. Which I think is a waste of money. But, it's important to her, so....I'm pondering it.

As far as Scorpios and I? They wouldn't say those things about me that you say about Gems. HaHa! But, I guess it all comes down to experiences, right?

Pisces moon?? Yeesh! Good luck with that one.
Peace!
~GM

My best friend is gemini and her mum is a scorpio. Her mum is so fkn annoying and intense its disgusting. She also doesnt let her do shit and she's nearly 22!

Anyway, they hate each other but they always hang out and do stuff together? lol.

@ellessque

Oh yeah, you did mention that. The women (like in most signs) are different then the men. But, like I said to someone on another thread. If a Gemini doesn't have a place to land, then they just tend to fly all over the place not knowing what to do, or where to go. It sounds like your mom didn't get that, which ultimately affected you. Instead of finding the differences, try finding the links. Gemini's and Scorpio's are very similar in a lot of ways. Scorpio's are the only water signs that I have respect for.

I've said this before, and I'm sticking to it:

People only experience 2 emotions, fear and love. All other elements branch either directly or indirectly from the original 2. Water signs are fear based emotionally. Cancers tuck it in, Pisces pretend it doesn't exist, while the Scorpio recognizes it, and be damned if it gets the best of them. This is why you guys are perceived to be power hungry. I don't see that way at all. I see that the only way you BELIEVE that you can beat that 'fear' is to kill it. Literally and Figuratively. LOL! Ya'll know I'm right! ;P

Anyway, for this Gemini, I have nothing but love. I kill things that I have loved because I felt they were too selfish and oblivious to the 'love' that I had to offer. Makes sense? Oh well, I tried. Now, the 2 Scorpio women that I dated are still very close to me to this day. Why? They finally accepted these things from me. Their response is always the same: "I just wanted to know what was DEEP in your heart!!" Now to a Gemini, this is big Brady Bunch Taboo shit! But, once realized that they were true, and not a threat, it was all love. *shrugs*

~GM

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Posted by ellessque
TOC, you are a libra, you have to get along with everyone because that's "fair" 😛

seriously though, gems and scorps usually are great friends on the "surface" but they are just too shallow for us to be anything more.

but whow knows. *shrugs* a handsome gemini may come along some day and sweep me off my feet...and I'll be in here singing a different tune.

doubt it. 😛

yes. Fickle, shallow, competitive, conniving. I could go on & on.

I can deal with geminis with water moons though. My mom was a gemini with a scorpio moon. A friend of mine is a gemini with a cancer moon like mine, but she has snaked me once, used everything I told her in confidence to hurt me and was flirtatious with the men in my life, competitive with me in areas she had no business competing. I keep her at a distance, knowing that she could do it again. When I call her a friend, I use that term loosely.

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Stop generalizing like that girl. You're smarter and better than that. I know it, so should you.

I don't have much experience with Geminis but I knew a girl at uni who would pretend to be peoples friends and then tell everyone else their secrets. No one was safe from her telling their stuff. She also told me that a male at uni had abused her then told some other girls that a completely different person had abused her.

She did some pretty serious stuff and a lot of people forgave her....I don't understand how someone can be like that but I have a feeling it's not really a zodiac thing but something more psychological. I also don't understand how people could forgive her and carry on being her friend but oh well 🙂

Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously?? In this societal cesspool, who isn't fickle, conniving, competitive and on and on? We are living in a society that has chemically dumbed down the entire globe! Look around you! There is no more "Natural" anything anymore. People are competing against themselves! Trying to be an image of something someone else told them that was important! Really? That's it? I'm disappointed! People are brainwashed from the tube! Look at whats on television now. It's all fucking bullshit! You pay triple for "natural" food. Or, you can pay less for the shit that's ultimately gonna kill you. Aspartame, sodium fluoride in every tap in the country. Red Bull, WITH VODKA!!! Does anybody even give a shit about the lines in your sky? Look up sometimes, get your heads out of your assess. Then ask yourself, what is that up there??

It is dog eat dog out there folks! There is NO love left in humans. Just shadows. People don't give love, based on there hearts anymore. It's all based on if they do something good, it makes them feel good about themselves. This has nothing to do with Gems, Scorps, or any other sign. It's about the Natural person. If you notice that the television tells you that people are machines, and machines are human. Pay attention, I dare you!

Relationship wise? Hmph! Nowadays everybody looks at a relationship based on how it makes them feel about themselves. SELFISH!!!

So don't fucking dare lump Gemini's into that bullshit!! We are the only ones out here trying to keep it straight, or at least I am. It's our fucking job! Part of our job is to hand out messages. But like most ingrates, you shoot the messenger. Well, the messages will save your life. If you don't like it? Kill yourselves, because you're doing it anyway! It's not fair to your love ones to go out with you!

Much love and respect as always,
The Gemini Mind

@TS

You came in on the end of that rant. It's not towards your post. It's directed to the feet of the people that those shoes fit. 🙂

~GM

:::shakes head:::

No matter what, still love you LS.

~GM

Posted by exoskeleton
LOL, geminimind. relax.

you're not a typical gem. good for you. that's not a reason to shoot down what everyone is saying. we're only talking our own experiences.

and you say not to generalize, but you're doing the same thing by saying everyone under 30 is damaged.

Ah! Maybe I misspoke on that. Let me be clear:

That generation is being destroyed, and it's not their fault. It's really by design. You see, I'm a father of a 12 year old and a 7 year old. I can see the differences in what I faced then, and what they face now. Watching the money over the years has shown me that yes, it is by design. You'll see what I mean in full force in the coming months.

There are riots by this generation all over the world who haven't been poisoned. All I'm saying is take heed. Maybe I'm just Old Skool. HaHa! I don't see honor in people of this generation is all. And they come in all shapes, sizes, signs, and forms. *shrugs*

It all hit me when my daughter was one of the features on the Oprah show. The guest with her? Miley fucking Cyrus when she was Hannah Montana. Something shifted in me when I saw the "sheep effect". I looked at Billy Ray and he was just exploiting his child. I could have hit him in his fucking jaw! And I couldn't help but remember something my Taurus father used to tell me: "A real man is not a man based on the materials that he provides. A real man is a man based on teaching his family how to survive in his absence. If you live by a code of honor, the materials will always be there." It stuck.

I teach my children honor, lady gaga is garbage along with the rest of this "come in a package music", and so on.
My daughter read The Art of War when she was 7. Maybe, I fear for my kiddos. There is a war going on people. A war on the Chakras, and humanity is losing. Know this:

The most basic form of mind control is repetition. Franz Mesmer, the man who gave us "Mesmerize" was a Gemini.

But, I'm relaxed. 🙂
~GM

Posted by exoskeleton
i knew you'd respond with a long post. before you were basically saying, "don't blame geminis, blame society!" that's a very cute (gemini) trick, lol.

"I don't see honor in people of this generation is all. And they come in all shapes, sizes, signs, and forms. *shrugs*"

you can't just dump that on every individual. THAT is still generalizing. and it seems like you're really blaming the media.

"I teach my children honor, lady gaga is garbage along with the rest of this "come in a package music", and so on."

a lot of parents are the same way. just being young in today's world doesn't mean you're doomed. everyone has their own mind and upbringing.

—The most basic form of mind control is repetition.??

absolutely true. 🙂

Listening is an acquired skill. The word 'generalizing exist' for a reason. But, since you were prepared for a "long post", you seem to be looking for reason to poo-poo it all anyway, so fuck it. You think everything is "trick" tsk tsk. Believe what you want, trust yourself, and never, EVER, trust a Gemini. We're nothing more than tricksters. 😉

Posted by ellessque
lol...welcome to the club.

there is a slew of "I hate scorpio" tatoos circulating around at any given moment.

Nah, people just hate Nancy Grace.

Posted by ellessque
....I mean, you HAVE stuck around to read the whole thread, haven't ya 😄

HaHaHa! You just don't get it do you sweetheart. Air is my element, I use it to be not just here honey, but anywhere and everywhere I choose. One thing that I've always been good at with Scorps, is giving them that "chink" in the armor that they're looking for. Just to see the amazement in their eyes when they look up. HaHaHa! See, we Gemini's set out to learn and study people. Scorps, always looking for weakness in people. *winces* Ya kinda gotta be careful with that one.

Sad thing though, they kinda think they have more power than they do in some cases. I love you guys thinking that way. It means I can keep your little stingers where I can see them. 😉 Uhhh, HaHa, you guys crack me up though.

My love is unwavering for ya though. 😉

~GM

I co-sign that Mr. Nice.

LS, you should look at my chart. Maybe that will shed some light on me. 😉 I'm more than you think.

QS, I feel you on that. I've always been attracted to Aries women. Let's get into the Aries/Scorp comparisons, okay? But, I like strong women. I come from a pride of lions, and the matriarch was Pisces. Yeesh!!

Well said Storm, and very true. I admit that I owe this site a lot. Being a Gemini compelled me to dig until my fingers bled. You being a Scorpio used determination to defeat those idiosyncrasies. Well done.

Exo, serious question:

Well I guess this is for all Scorps. But, why does it drive you guys crazy when people say:

"You know, I was going to tell you something......but.....I change my mind."

This drove my ex PSYCHOOOOOOO!!!!! I never understood why! Drove me nutz!

Awwww I'm feewin da luvs!!

That's true. Friend of mine (Gem) married to a Scorp, and I truly admire how they've overcome so many obstacles. She's a tough one though. She used to say: "I need a strong man!" Damn near killed them all before him. HaHaHa! But, 8 years later, boundaries are respected, and apparently love prevailed. I think that Scorps have a good reason to be leery of people. I know I am. But, if you let a "True" Gemini in, I promise their only purpose is to help. But, maybe I'm thinking out of my own pocket. Stupid me. Ha!

it goes both ways actually. i'm a gemini with moon in cancer. had friends who are gemini's and scorpios. i always attract scorpios bec. my past relationships were with scorps, and some friends are scorps too. must be my moon sign, or my venus leo i don't know what.

been there with gems who i cant trust, yes. i trusted a scorp also but cheated on me several times and lied too much. i don't know. there are good ones and bad ones in a bunch! just pick the right one!

there is this gem that rubs me the wrong way when we haven't really gotten to know each other. we have the same friends. i don't know why she's somewhat rude to me. or probably that's her personality. i'm the quiet one so and i try to avoid her. lolol. i do have an aunt that a gemini and she's very nice.

right now there is this one person i like which is a scorpio with pisces moon. she did the stare and also does come to me and talk to me several times, and i do try to hold back because don't know really. she too like me is quiet and picky when it comes to people.

from experience, i don't get along with those with gemini moons. i'm very sensitive and emotional.

Yeah, some Gems just make you want to slap the shit out of them. For me, it's men who don't know how to embrace their environment, just trying to make it all "LOOK AT ME!" . Their energy sounds like cymbals ringing in my ear. Drive me nuts!
Damn, maybe I have become my father, a Taurus. Scuse me whilst me go blow me bwains out!!

LS, the respect was mutual from the giddyup, you know this woman.

I think for me Gems boundaries are different from Capricorns. As a Capricorn, sometimes my position is set with certain things, but they seem to have a flexible stance on many things (adaptable Thing). They just don't see things as caps do and sometimes it is threatening if they are close to you and you're not sure what they're doing. They also don't want you to pin them down to your code if it restricts them. It is challenging for a cap to figure them out, their orbit is in a different galaxy. I still like them though, but we are more different than alike.

Back to the original post: a Gemini who takes selfish delight in his god-given lying abilities and who stirs up trouble for his own amusement is one who has not yet matured. We can and do grow out of it, but, admittedly, it's freakin' annoying until we do.

As far as whether you can trust me- honestly, I don't really know. As a Gem, I have my own sense of integrity and my own internal rules about proper behavior that don't always match up to other people's. But I DO follow my own rules, so once you know what they are you can tell how I will behave in most situations.

I WILL tell your secrets, but it will be to someone who doesn't know you (and I will change your name). I will also tell my husband, since I see him as an extension of me. It's Gemini's astrological imperative to relay information, and it's going to happen one way or another.

I AM a skilled liar, but will only do it to save someone's feelings, plan a surprise, or avoid very serious trouble. I have freaked out a Scorpio by expertly hiding a very elaborate surprise party. He worried about how easily I tricked him and wondered what else I could be getting past him, without understanding that to lie for its own sake isn't part of my personal code of ethics.

I HAVE slept with a friend's ex, but he was someone I genuinely loved and I waited until she was actively seeking other men.

All of this fits my personal rules, but might be reason for you not to trust me.

As far as Scorpios, the ones I have befriended seem to fall into only two categories: the most insufferable, manipulative, selfish people I've ever met and the most beautiful, loyal, intelligent, and amazing people I've ever met. Ironically, the exact same traits perfectly describe my Gemini friends. My Scorpio husband is one of the best people on the planet, puts up with my weird Gemini a $ $ for some reason, and we are very, very happy together!

Mr Nice, he's a Nov 5th Scorp. He has a Gemini rising and I have a Scorp rising, so that might contribute to our understanding of each other.

No one trumps a scorpio when it comes to lying BLATANT AND SHAMELESSLY, its funny how the fingers point to Gemini. At least when a gemini or pisces does it they are smart enough to not get caught.

Posted by Avalan32
No one trumps a scorpio when it comes to lying BLATANT AND SHAMELESSLY, its funny how the fingers point to Gemini. At least when a gemini or pisces does it they are smart enough to not get caught.

:::Shakes Head With Love:::

This is interesting to me because the Scorpios I've known well haven't really been liars. They've mostly been blatantly truthful or else just kept silent.

I'm not saying some of them weren't deceptive. One boyfriend felt lying was wrong, so he would say things that were just technically true. Me: "Did you take out the trash?" Him: "I took out the trash" (meaning he took it out LAST week, not THIS week, but since no one specified which day, he actually believed it wasn't lying).

My Scorpio husband is the worst liar in the world. It kind of surprises me, because he has everything else so under control inside. He can't even keep my Christmas present a secret.