Scorpio woman Leo guy

Scorpio woman Leo guy really hard to figure out
So he is extremely jealous and possessive from what I can tell. I'm really big on communication so when he gets this way I try to ask him what makes him feel this way. Is say thing like are you concerned about me seeing other people ? are you concerned about me talking to other people? are you concerned about me having sexy with other people? but he usually blows up and say he doesnt care so I never seem to get to the root of the problem. Obviously he does care because if he didn’t he wouldn’t blow up like he does; but because he blows up. I noticed that if I don’t react much he will calm down and reach out to me within 15 mins. the more I react and try to figure out what's wrong the longer he stays mad. The last fight we had was about me being on my phone. the fight before that was because we had a date he said he had to cancel because something came up. I was very understanding I told him it was fine and we would see each other another time. he said that he just wanted to see how bad I wanted to see him and I guess because I wasn’t upset means that I didn’t want to see him bad enough. the date ended up being a disaster because I shut down emotionally. He took me from complete bliss to sadness to disappointment and then to confusion in just 10 hours. I also noticed that the more attention I give him the more he picks fights. Don’t get me wrong he is a pleasure to be around when we are together and I really like him and we have potential if I can only get to the root of what makes him this way . If I don't take his calls or respond to messages he gets really upset with me. The things that he get mad about are out of my control. I also notice that he says things like I'm "HIS" He says thing like "MY BABY" he has a nick name and in front of it he put a "MY". So I was thinking he acts this way because he really likes me but then at times he is really short with me so I'm not sure. He never ignores me but it's been times we don't communicate because he put me in a bad head space

scorpio woman leo man ... they attract each other like bugs and light bulbs.loool
my mums an scorpio and my dads a leo. theyve been married for 25 yrs now. as long as they dont spend the whole day, everyday together they should last.lol

LOL Suspes when I do he drives me crazy. because he is so jealous. I will say I missed you today and he will say no you didn't. LOL so I just shut up..... haha today he is being short with me :-) .. who knows what I did this time.. I usually just keep kool and he will chase me down in a couple of days. He loves chasing after me for some reason.. so im just going to let him. So he is jealous because he wants me to love on him? this is the first leo guy I ever dated and its lots of work....

that's good to know notafollower because I feel like im going to balance him out really well. he is used to having his own way and being the boss and being the boss I don't have a problem with because I prefer to be submissive but his unrealistic demands like Face time me now when he knows im in a meeting and its just not happening because im working so he ends up upsetting himself for a few days but he always chase me down and come right back.... Its just confusing when is short with me.. because on one hand how can you be so jealous and then on then the next min you don't have more than 2 words for me.

Aww you got yourself a cub. Sorry, you took him in now you have to feed him. 😛


"I also noticed that the more attention I give him the more he picks fights. "
"...because he is so jealous. I will say I missed you today and he will say no you didn't. LOL so I just shut up....."

Seems like he thrives on drama, it's one character flaw that rarely responds to positive/negative reinforcement. He behaves this way bc he's insecure and because he can. Take away the latter and he'll be forced to deal with his shit.. with or without you. In other words you need to stop enabling it by being accepting. Put your foot down (or on his tail) and let him know what is up. Leos respect strenght so don't let him walk over you.

Posted by Ssupes
Just stroke that dudes ego and make him feel like he's the top cat and irreplaceable. He will straighten up fast. If you can't or won't make him feel like a king, this problem will continue to exist.

Needing our ego stroked so hard is not our best trait

Umm yeah don't do this.

It's only band-aiding the real issues, not solving them.

Well if I am ego boy then I should know what I'm talking about, shouldn't I?

And I'm not the one who got mine scratched by a counter-argument.

And she specifically said (paraphrasing here) that when she does stroke his ego he acts like a dick nontheless, and seeks new ways to create drama.

" I also noticed that the more attention I give him the more he picks fights. "
"...because he is so jealous. I will say I missed you today and he will say no you didn't. LOL so I just shut up....."

If you were less interested in your own advice and more in what she says we'd have a discussion.

Posted by Ssupes

I said that he is INSECURE.....plain and simple........

And that the best cure for insecurity is EGO STROKING.... plain and simple.

Which is what I opposed,, and not that he isn't insecure. Basically you made no point here whatsoever.



".......if she didnt state that she loved the guy and all the good stuff too then I prob would have given the same advice as you did. However, she loves the guy so I gave advice on how to keep him.......not lose him. "

That's even worse fucking advice if she loves him,or sees any potential there. Stroking his ego on no other grounds but to keep him in good spirits.. might aswell start walking on eggshells and faking orgasms. None of this really matters because AGAIN, she clearly stated that he finds new exciting ways to be a dick even when she's being accomodating to his moods. Of course we could ignore that fact as it suits the backpeddling agenda, and instead shift focus to my huge ego... on some far-fetched note.

HAHAA :-) so i understand both sides Ssupes and Efant _terrible. but stroking isnt working or I suck at stroking lol. However I dont think that stroking his ego is what he needs or want. he is used to that. Women throw themselves at him all day long because of his profession and what he looks like yet when it comes to me he is still insecure. so thats obviously not working. When im sweet and nice he acts a fool. throws tantrums, demands things of me all day long. When i go off on him he is well behaved. see that's the thing he is replaceable and so am I. we choose who we want in our lives.. so I don't want to send that message because that would be dishonest of me. Im not going to do things to make people want to stay with me and im not going to stay with someone because they do what i want them to do. people should be with each other because of who they are and because the want to. I
genuinely like him and that’s why I am asking for advice. I don’t think that he intends to be jealous or if its just something about me that brings that out of him. You both agreed on one thing and that he is insecure. That’s so hard for me to believe because by far he is one of if not the most attractive man I have ever dated. i dont want to change him i just want to understand him so i will know how to react when he does certain things and how to treat him a way that he feels loved

hey efant_terrible back to me please :-) thank you lol

Posted by Scorpio4242
hey efant_terrible back to me please :-) thank you lol

I didn't make it about me. Peter Griffin did.

Wow that seems like a lot of insecurity there from him. Does he have any cancer placements as he seems emotionally manipulative? Just asking but that's a lot of drama to deal with.

Posted by Scorpio4242
that's good to know notafollower because I feel like im going to balance him out really well. he is used to having his own way and being the boss and being the boss I don't have a problem with because I prefer to be submissive but his unrealistic demands like Face time me now when he knows im in a meeting and its just not happening because im working so he ends up upsetting himself for a few days but he always chase me down and come right back.... Its just confusing when is short with me.. because on one hand how can you be so jealous and then on then the next min you don't have more than 2 words for me.

😄

LEO at our most retarded.

If you dropped everything, every time... he probably wouldn't come running back.

Keep doing what you're doing for now-- being yourself seems to be working for him.

Don't give him any slack either.

Not that you would, but I doubt he wants it anyway.

Hope it works out for you 🙂

Posted by AgentP911
Wow that seems like a lot of insecurity there from him. Does he have any cancer placements as he seems emotionally manipulative? Just asking but that's a lot of drama to deal with.

Does he have any cancer placements as he seems emotionally manipulative?
Im not sure agent P911 But I never thought of that. hmmmmm so if he is being emotionally manipulative what he is he really trying to gain because he is just getting on my nerves lol.

Sheesh I was definitely going to say are you sure he’s not a Cancer in disguise. Lol
Normally they act like this when they truly like someone, testing and needing constant attention and reassurance. Certainly these things will drive you nuts, your sign likes slight independence here and there, and your partner must be strong; not stronger than you of course because you might feel threatened eh? 😉 Lol. I swear nothing pisses me off then knowing my partner is testing me, if you test me you’ll do best to not let me find out about it or I will emotionally shut down. It truly pisses me off to the max.

Nonetheless I’ve never dated a Leo past the “talking” stages. They seem to love to be the center of attention, and it goes double for their partners. Make him feel like King of the jungle in deed or feel his claws or hear his roar when you don’t give him his way. He’s nothing but a soft cat underneath all that bite that’s why he shapes up when your stinger comes out. It’s cool to stoke his ego, but I suppose you’ll just have to be cool with cursing him out every now and then for him to shape up. Lol. Sounds like a big baby.

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Posted by Scorpio4242
that's good to know notafollower because I feel like im going to balance him out really well. he is used to having his own way and being the boss and being the boss I don't have a problem with because I prefer to be submissive but his unrealistic demands like Face time me now when he knows im in a meeting and its just not happening because im working so he ends up upsetting himself for a few days but he always chase me down and come right back.... Its just confusing when is short with me.. because on one hand how can you be so jealous and then on then the next min you don't have more than 2 words for me.

😄

LEO at our most retarded.

If you dropped everything, every time... he probably wouldn't come running back.

Keep doing what you're doing for now-- being yourself seems to be working for him.

Don't give him any slack either.

Not that you would, but I doubt he wants it anyway.

Hope it works out for you 🙂

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HAHAHAAAAAAAAA i actually laugh at him sometimes in my head. but it came out loud in his face by accident yesterday. SMH and he was upset at that he said oh you think its funny———? some days he is madly in love some days he tries to pretend that i don't exist but i can feel his energy tough so i just laugh. because it doesn't last long because he cant stay away. its so strong that i can feel when he is about to call me or when im going to see him. its kinda hard to explain.. Bottom line is i like him . Im glad that you can relate to this (LEO at our most retarded.) make me feel a little better. and like he is somewhat normal because its other people like him.

Posted by FrostAndBite
I'd wager money on it he either has a Scorp moon, sun square moon or moon opposite Saturn.

Some Leo men just need a loving little belly rub and then a prompt smack quickly to follow.

I will say if you take that attitude that both of you are replaceable to each other there's no way out of your current circumstances. Both of you are fixed signs. Both of you require some semblance of consistency/stable affirmations to reach a peacable long term arrangement. I've heard Taurus, Scorpio, Leo and Aquas talk about how they play fast and loose, don't need commitment, don't 'need' people and that's all good in theory. But ultimately these same folks were nested up in a year or less of making those statements lol. Fixed signs need a consistency to depend on. It doesn't have to be traditional necessarily, but it needs to be there somehow someway.

agreed frostandbite "I will say if you take that attitude that both of you are replaceable to each other there's no way out of your current circumstances. Both of you are fixed signs. Both of you require some semblance of consistency/stable affirmations to reach a peacable long term arrangement" HAHAHAAAAAA but when i come in peace he come in war.............. and when I come in war he come in peace :-) I appreciate your perspective

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Posted by Montgomery

Posted by Scorpio4242
that's good to know notafollower because I feel like im going to balance him out really well. he is used to having his own way and being the boss and being the boss I don't have a problem with because I prefer to be submissive but his unrealistic demands like Face time me now when he knows im in a meeting and its just not happening because im working so he ends up upsetting himself for a few days but he always chase me down and come right back.... Its just confusing when is short with me.. because on one hand how can you be so jealous and then on then the next min you don't have more than 2 words for me.

😄

LEO at our most retarded.

If you dropped everything, every time... he probably wouldn't come running back.

Keep doing what you're doing for now-- being yourself seems to be working for him.

Don't give him any slack either.

Not that you would, but I doubt he wants it anyway.

Hope it works out for you 🙂

HAHAHAAAAAAAAA i actually laugh at him sometimes in my head. but it came out loud in his face by accident yesterday. SMH and he was upset at that he said oh you think its funny———? some days he is madly in love some days he tries to pretend that i don't exist but i can feel his energy tough so i just laugh. because it doesn't last long because he cant stay away. its so strong that i can feel when he is about to call me or when im going to see him. its kinda hard to explain.. Bottom line is i like him . Im glad that you can relate to this (LEO at our most retarded.) make me feel a little better. and like he is somewhat normal because its other people like him.

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the tests are driving me insane and im sure him too because I think i have failed every one... SMH. you are right about me wanting my alone time so I have that when he is upset and away so i guess it works out :-)

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Posted by AgentP911
Wow that seems like a lot of insecurity there from him. Does he have any cancer placements as he seems emotionally manipulative? Just asking but that's a lot of drama to deal with.

Does he have any cancer placements as he seems emotionally manipulative?
Im not sure agent P911 But I never thought of that. hmmmmm so if he is being emotionally manipulative what he is he really trying to gain because he is just getting on my nerves lol.

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I don't know but it feels more like my experience with Cancerian men. He might not be being emotionally manipulative but that's how I see it. I'm not Leo and have little experience of them so I'm no authority on it at all.

I know of a Scorpio Leo relationship she ended up getting sick and passing she was a typical Scorpio woman she rubbed everybody the wrong way she was dubbed a "Bitch". I really only seen her with one friend, I rarely seen her out and about she was a real home body this was before she was sick

Honestly since she's been gone the Leo guy is so much happier he has a new woman in his life not sure of her sign I don't know her. Somebody said to me have to noticed the Leo's new girlfriend participates in his favorite hobbies they seem really happy together. His ex wife she never was into his hobbies I think she controlled his life I see him out and about more now than I have ever seen him I've known this Leo guy for a good 10 years.

Fire and water isn't ever a good match the fire eventually boils our water dry, I find Leo women interesting but I do find they like their ego stroked. As for possessiveness the Leo women I know I don't see any inkling of possessiveness, Scorpio women yes, Leo women no.

Posted by Scorpio4242
the tests are driving me insane and im sure him too because I think i have failed every one... SMH. you are right about me wanting my alone time so I have that when he is upset and away so i guess it works out :-)

Oh I can't date us. lol

How long have you two been together?

Posted by IrresistableScorp
Well, not sure if this applies but the Leo Rising loved to be petted and told awesome things about himself right in the beginning. We had this standing weekly thing whereby I would tell him all the mushy gushy things I loved about him. Not because I had to but I recognized that it actually came from a place of insecurity not ego. And really how hard is it to say something wonderful about the person you cherish? So the things went from the silly to the sublime. It was actually very bonding.

In return, I got warm romance sometimes bordering on Romance Novel romance like the time he talked a place we were at to play a song for me that went out over all the speakers. I had no idea. "Only God could love you more" was the verse. It was beautiful and surreal.

This seems so true!
I feel the erratic behavior is simply an attempt on their part to protect themselves from being hurt. Grant it, the ego and pride thing is there also, but not always. These signs really fall hard when they fall in-love. I mean HARD! The harder they fall, the bigger the potential fall.

I don't think I know many leos, but I have watch my leo gf over the yrs. I personally believe that some leos (maybe cause of their pride) are very uncomfortable feeling certain feelings (fear, insecurity, etc.) So when they feel it, they react in ways to deflect and/or hide those feelings because they don't want to appear weak.

About 2 yrs into my current relationship, there was all this weird behavior from my leo gf that I just wasn't comprehending where it was coming from or why. It always seem to occur not soon after real intimacy/closeness (not talking sex here necessarily). I believe that when they become keenly aware of just how vulnerable they really are with their SO and that that person has THE power to really REALLY REALLY hurt them, fear enters in.

Sincere unprompted reminders by their SO that they are loved, treasured, needed and irreplaceable goes a lonnnng way into calming their fears. Some people would call this ego-stroking. I call in providing needed assurance that they have your love and heart. In return, they feel it's *safer* to feel the love they feel for you and will likely fall even deeper in love with you. Their love really has no bounds.

This approach worked with my gf and I can say I don't even remember the

DAMN cutoff...
This approach worked with my gf and I can say I don't even remember the last time I got this seemingly erratic behavior from her. Now it's me acting crazy as hell! HAHA!!

Posted by Ssupes
100% truth. Good post

Coming from a leo, that's good to know 😉. Even though I don't know many leos, gf has sun/moon/venus/mercury all in leo - so her leo traits are very strong.

Okay guys.. So an update I didn't try to manipulate him in any way. I didn't stroke his ego nor did I try to put my foot down by telling him what I would and would not stand for or by being an ass. I remained calm and everything fell into place on its own. I did make the first move by telling him what I wanted from our relationship. It was very casual in the way that I told him but he was very receptive to it. So it appears that ALL he wanted was a commitment from me. we were only dating for about 7 weeks and I like to take my time but now that we are committed he is a new man and I am so in love with that side of him. so my analysis is this he behaved the way he did because he felt strongly about me but he didn't know that I felt the same way about him. haven't noticed any jealous or insecure behaviors since my post last week and that use to be a daily thing. He is so sweet and loving.. and wants to be with me or talk to me constantly but I enjoy it because he isn't doing it to control he is doing it cause he misses me. :-)
and I just want to love him down. so Ssupes you were correct to an extent when you said he wanted his ego stroked. However I feel like he just wants to be loved and know that its coming from a genuine place because he is overflowing with love to give.

CRABBycrab76 Awesome post and I agree. Me telling him I felt wasn't prompted by anything that he did but me just wanting to open up about how I felt about him. and that's all he needed. For some reason I always feel like people know how I feel by my actions. he was falling for me and wasn't sure if I was falling back or if I would even fall at all. I also realized something about my self when telling him how I felt. that I was also afraid..............