the virgo/scorp communication gap

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Is this a problem for any of you scorp/virgo pairs?....I am pulling out my hair trying to get a point across to my scorp, and the more I try, the deeper the misunderstanding becomes. I am very much in love, but on the virge of walking away because I never feel like I am getting through with my deepest concerns. Then, as a virgo, I end up bottling up until there is an explosion (which I hate myself for doing). I really spill everything that's bugged me since forever, and the whole point gets all muddled up in other crap that has nothing to do with the issue. AGGGHHH!. I try sometimes to write out my feelings, but they still are treated as if they are not important enough to address. Am I just being played for an idiot? Do scorps not understand virgs and vise/versa?? At the beginning, when I express myself, I am consise and no one else seems to disagree or misconstrue my meanings....but when scorp "HEARS" me, there is always some strange twist put on my words that were never intended the way they are taken. Thanks for the vent.... 🙂
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I sure hope it gets better. I have never had a stronger love for someone, but I seem to be constantly defending my point of view, or trying to straighten out the twisty way the words are used to kind of trap me into appearing that I'm saying something that I am not, and usually it's a negative against me. We are so compatible in most ways, but if my scorp DOES understand my problem, it gets put the side, lost in a sea of silence, and not spoken of again...No closure to my issues I guess.
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Is this a problem for any of you scorp/virgo pairs?....I am pulling out my hair trying to get a point across to my scorp, and the more I try, the deeper the misunderstanding becomes. I am very much in love, but on the virge of walking away because I never feel like I am getting through with my deepest concerns. Then, as a virgo, I end up bottling up until there is an explosion (which I hate myself for doing). I really spill everything that's bugged me since forever, and the whole point gets all muddled up in other crap that has nothing to do with the issue. AGGGHHH!. I try sometimes to write out my feelings, but they still are treated as if they are not important enough to address. Am I just being played for an idiot? Do scorps not understand virgs and vise/versa?? At the beginning, when I express myself, I am consise and no one else seems to disagree or misconstrue my meanings....but when scorp "HEARS" me, there is always some strange twist put on my words that were never intended the way they are taken. Thanks for the vent.... 🙂



if you are scorpio, dont assume, always ask

if you are virgo, dont speak first, put some sexy lingerie on the message to appeal to the horny scorpio and you'll get the message across so much better
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Both of you hit on what I think I am truly feeling here. A one-way street I am travling. I do say "No that's not what I said. Don't twist my words"...at which point I am told to be silent until scorp is "finished" talking.. I think there are some control issues mixed in...Sometimes our conversations are more like lectures and I'm the student. No talking till teach is done....blah! P)
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Trying to make sense of things here. I am not so much of an emotional juvenile (not that I don't have a ways to go), but would most virgos stand for being corrected all the time and the having all these "talks" about what you need to do differently about yourself. Then, I am treated kindly, sugary kind...ahhh more and more I think it's usary, but my mind won't let me acknowledge that....that means I've made a real BIG blunder in my choices! 😛
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Thank you all for your input, I think it might just be an "US" thing rather than a virg/scorp thing. I do think though, that between the two, it is I the Virgo who goes to the greater extent to understand and be patient. I have difficulty when I can't comprehend someone's point of view because I pride myself on letting people BE THEMSELVES. I on the other hand am finding myself retreating from my own nature to please scorp, and I know my nature is basically good. I am changing in a way that is not healthy in order to appease another. Not good for anyone, and I really think if I was loved, I would not be concerned with this. It seems my scorp has a never ending vendetta to "FIX" me, where I percieve I am not broken.
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i somewhat agree with you soulvision

in my experience with my scorpio ex, she wanted me to be more aggressive instead of inert. this means when she was in the mood for an argument to vent her frustration, she wants me to accommodate that haha

but at the same time, i'm not allowed to be dominant because then she would always say i am bullying her turning an mock argument into a situation where i get something out of her then she feels i'm not taking the 'roleplay' seriously haha. but its hard to fight with your lover

its not unhealthy for us since both scorpio and virgo are mutable having this compatible/adaptable feel. water (scorpio) always conforms to the container (virgo) just sometimes it helps if we practice out adaptability to give scorpio a chance to take a new shape
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Once a Virgo gets their panties wadded up their asses ... all rational thought disappears when it concerns the issue at hand.

Scorpios normally want to hash out the issue ... and will become disillusioned with the Virgo for wanting to gripe rather than discuss.


Communication-wise = Virgo probably doesn't really get along with anybody. They are too anal retentive to be able to look at a situation that involves them objectively.



Scorpios are about healing it, finding a way to be happy with it .... Virgos are about ignoring it, and getting mad about it.
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Is this a problem for any of you scorp/virgo pairs?....I am pulling out my hair trying to get a point across to my scorp, and the more I try, the deeper the misunderstanding becomes. I am very much in love, but on the virge of walking away because I never feel like I am getting through with my deepest concerns. Then, as a virgo, I end up bottling up until there is an explosion (which I hate myself for doing). I really spill everything that's bugged me since forever, and the whole point gets all muddled up in other crap that has nothing to do with the issue. AGGGHHH!. I try sometimes to write out my feelings, but they still are treated as if they are not important enough to address. Am I just being played for an idiot? Do scorps not understand virgs and vise/versa?? At the beginning, when I express myself, I am consise and no one else seems to disagree or misconstrue my meanings....but when scorp "HEARS" me, there is always some strange twist put on my words that were never intended the way they are taken. Thanks for the vent.... 🙂




Virgos create a communication barrier with every person in their lives.

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It takes a shallow mind, bent on confrontational conversation, (P-ANGEL)to even remotely begin to judge a persons reactions,mental state of mind, conversation patterns, wisdom, hurts, emotions, etc. without the slightest inkling of who you are talking to. For your information, I shy away from getting angry, unless someone feels it is their mission to change me,and hold themselves superior to me. There is no conversation I will not willingly be a part of that is intelligent and has a foundation that supports all parties having their freedom to be "THEM". I am not an argumentative person, but if you are willing to strut your pea-cock feathers where and how you want to,(and want respect for who you are), I desperately believe, you should not throw stones at others who wish to do the same. On the other hand, I will plainly tell you that you are simply full of shit when you attempt to catagorize me (not knowing me), or PRETEND you know the workings of my mind or heart. Is this plain communication? I realize your contention with others is your thrill...so be it 🙂
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Starlover, I am with a Scorp now, and STILL have trouble after quite a few years together, being seen and appreciated for the kind, loyal and faithful one that I am. I fear I will always be tested, and even in passing, I fail. I admit to this aloofness in myself. Somehow for the fear of being judged by my actions, I simply do not act at all. My impulse is
to protect myself from being tested and being wrong....again. It's like being thoughtful and taking out the trash and being told you tied the bag wrong....or folding laundry to help ease the housework load, but instead of thanks you get that you
"folded" wrong or put things away in the closet in the wrong order...it's more than a lack of appreciation, it is an
ego bruiser and creates a self consciousness that just tells me it's better not to act at all. That backfires too though, because then "You don't DO enough"" sigh..that's the reason for MY aloofness anyways.

P-Angel has her issues, but they still put murderers away for murdering, and hatefulness is still hatefullness. To deliberately cause contention for amusement is sadistic and self gratifying. That's the only reason she uses her words
to wound, because she is obviously intelligent,...just not smart!
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Zeo I am the mutable one. I allow the water to reshape on a daily basis.. There are many forms a Scorp takes. Sometimes it's the emotional water with tears, sometimes the angry sea...sometimes the calming serene water of a clear mountain lake. I willingly allow and adapt to all the changes, but it's the double-headed coins and the double standards I find hard to accomodate. What is "right" is not mutable to grey from black to scorp unless scorp needs to change what is right to suit their own argument at the time. This happens even when the scorps argument defies logical thought and worldwide norms. For example, My Scorp may ask you to fill up the gas tank (on your dime because their funds are low). However, when YOU are low on funds....don't ask the Scorp to fill up the tank because you will find out that "WELL YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT MONEY ASIDE FOR THAT"! YOU SHOULD HAVE PLANNED...." What's good for Scorpio Goose is not good for Virgo gander...but of course I'm the sucker who filled the tank (HAHA)😉