Why are scorpio's so afraid to trust—

I have been involved with a scorpio for over 2 years. The first time he planted his eyes on me he said " I don't trust you" He has stuck to his word but then again, he has stuck around for 2 years. He has never said that I have lied to him nor has he ever said anything bad about me. He just stated that I was a very intelligent woman and that I could get anything that I wanted. He said that I was his biggest challenge—?? true but not to the extent of what he may think. My question? where does this trust issue lay— with me or is it just him—

Just him.
We're afraid to trust, well I'm afraid to trust, because I do not like being hurt or crying.

Him.I don't like to get that trusting with anyone because I know everyones not perfect and will have a personality flaw,whether it be cheating,lying,stealing,whatever.My personality flaw was not trusting until someone I loved threw the"people who don't trust usually can't be trusted"quote in my face and got my to think about it.

I really feel for you guys...... I am just the opposite... I am a very trusting person from the start... The trust has to be taken in order for me to not trust you. For Scorpio's you all dont get a chance to really have many trusting people in your lives. Did you know that fear causes more errors. In the event because of your fear to trust, you do more hurting to people who really care about you. How often do you feel so alllll alone because of this fear—? How do you determine who to trust—??

Being a Scorp, I'm somewhat different on this. I do start out trusting because I trust myself. I may suffer the slings and arrows of misfortune, but I refuse to change just because I got burned the last time. The next one that comes along may be the right one; so I take that risk.

Well my next question is? If you are afraid to get your feelings hurt, then why do some scorpios's dish it out but then cant take it. Why is it so easy for some to hurt anothers feelings but dont want you to fight back. Me and my scorpio have hurt each others feelings in the worst way. Just words back and forth. I would tell him my feelings are hurt but yet I get over it. Its really hard for me to keep my temper at bay if anyone thinks he or she can talk to me in any kind of way. That brings me to another questions? Why do Scorpio even bother with someone who's personality is just as strong as theirs— I don't get it!!! I love a good fight here and then verbally of course. What is a scorpios reason?

The typical Scorpio WILL take a challenge. I think the kicker is the degree of emotional maturity. Some like to chase something all their lives, or play hard to get; that's low maturity. A more evolved Scorpio will see a challenge as how deep can we go without drowning in it.

Ask your Scorpio what would he do if you just shut up and totally submitted to him. I told my Cancer that if he wanted me to obey him, he better be worth obeying. He has not mentioned the word since.

Your Scorpio does not have control of you, which is what he wants. I don't think he will trust you otherwise.

Has he told you that he fears you? If he has, he has some growing up to do, because most Scorpios don't fear much of anything, but they can play the game to the hilt.

Inside, he's probably dying for this to work out, but you'll never know it until he's sure it will. In the meantime, it's just words.

Sometimes I wonder what the fights are all about. He did tell me that my mouth was my worst enemy....lol true!!! I belive if I was to tell him that I would shut up and allow him to control me, he probably wouldnt believe me. I do most of the talking and expressing feelings. He only talks when there is conflict. I guess you are right Ladydane, he will never trust me because I still have to be me. I guess if it is meant to be, then we would both have to accept the persons that we are not the person someone would feel more at ease with. Overall, we would be a great couple if only he would reconize that I am not out to hurt him but will love him to the end. I can surely handle him, it just he cant handle his feelings for me. Its been a little over two years and we havent gotten anywhere!!! Its amazing that we are still at it...We havent spent time with each other in over a year?? But he is still there?? Why—?

i think for most scorps trusting someone has to start with trusting themselves....it took a long time for me to trust myself ... i would always second guess myself, but when i started trusting myself .i found trusting others was easy..now dont get me wrong if you do something to break my trust you wont ever get it back and youll be lucky if i continue to talk to you.

it sounds like callmemsram's scorp is in his comfort zone...he knows he doesnt have complete control but he knows he is making you second guess yourself which is probably exactly what he wants you to do. he may realize your the one who will put up with all his crazy stuff he does but hes scared to let you all the way in for fear of getting hurt. i bet he acts so confidant on the outside but is a scared little boy, he may have gotten hurt in the past, i know that will leave a person alittle cautious. hang in there he will come around to seeing he cant push you away by fighting all the time. I started to try to push my aries away when we 1st started dating i got scared yeah you heard me. all the feelings i was feeling for him were not feelings i wanted to feel, but he just keeped on being there and well now we have been together for 3 years. so have faith and stick around it will work out.

Thanks Angeldevil for the advice.

You have given me so much to think about. Right now there is silence of course. As long as I am not trying to contact him. Hopefully you are right CG. I still dont have a choice but to wait it out!!! I do feel in my heart it will be worth the wait...I love him so much that I cant even date. My friends are wondering, what is wrong with me,I am turning men down like crazy. I just dont have an attraction or have a need to be with someone. Let me ask this question? If I dont try to contact him, will he eventually find away to find out if I havent run off with someone else? After 2 years, will he completely cut me off and be happy that I wont be bothered with him? In between this maddness, could it be possible that he has found love with someone else? I texted him last week and he told me in a text to leave him alone that he was with his new woman? should I believe that? or was he just trying to break my spirits? or was it another way of testing me? What will it prove if I don't try to talk to him? How could he seek revenge on me if thats the case? He can only make me bend, but I sure you I wont break...

I am sure you are right CG...The funny thing about it is this; I seem to attract the weaker one's. I am so tired of them. It becomes a game to me because I can see right through them. I want to feel—?? I have not been mentally disturbed like this before....I have to laugh at this one ..lol..seriously, It not that I have low self esteem, NOT!!! and I am surely not losing my respect. I know I have probably broke all the rules with Mr. Scorpio...But yet, he hasnt done anything to disrupt my personal life. He has been there for me in ways you cant imagine. I'll give you one; He paid my closing cost when I was re-financing my house in the middle of my divorce. This was after I had a big blow up with him over the whole deal in the first place. We hadnt even considered getting involved at this point. I could go on....It just hasnt been usually for him to respond to me when I need him the most. I happen to been a VERY INDEPENDENT WOMAN and he is very clear on this. This is probably the biggest threat to him...So be it! Yet still emotionally, he is the only person I can break down with but yet he knows my strenths. CG, I would do anything to resolve how I am feeling. But I have tried. I have suprised myself as well. If my feelings wherent real, I would have taken flight a long time ago. I just cant understand why this is happening. I am really free as a bird. I have no major problems in my life. He is the main factor in my life that hasnt fell into place...What can you tell me at this point—? Need a distration, I believe you are on a roll. I want to listen?? or at least need too...

candlegirl has some really good advice expecially the dont play games or try playing us scorps, and ya know what going out and having a good time is a good idea.

msram, do you and your scorp live in the same town? just wondering.
enjoy life and good luck!!

Thanks CG for shedding some light.....How long did it take for him to come back—I know I have done just the opposite of what he wanted me to do indirectly..That's why we argue so much. I am always the one who will initiate the contact. He is truly aware that I am not a needy person...He knows everything about me and has not found me in any lies. Every situation or area in my life that needed to be dealt with, he saw me throught with yes some of his advice. I would take what he told me, but the I would add my final touches....T'll this day, he really doesnt have anything negative on me but my mouth...I refuse to back down to him. I am usually sorry after the fact, but he should'nt take me pass my limit and he should know that by now. I am not planning to contact him for any reasons. I think he feels I dont need him. What can I do about that, this is just me. What man wouldnt want an attractive, educated, independent woman who works hard at everything, and accomplishes whatever I say I will accomplish. He has mentioned that I always have to be on top..I told him this is true, I need him to sit not behind me or in front of me but beside me. I dont think he understands that. He is single in his mid-thirties with no kids. His is a senior loan officer. I am a mother of 3 girls and I get along with both of my ex-hubby as to which he thinks is sick..What ever... I just think his insecuries have the best of him. He is a very good looking man and talented. If he was to contact me, I wouldnt be sure as to why at this point. He is not moving anywhere with me. He wont spend time with me..he won't talk but he will cause me to have one of my fitts because he just frustrates me. I am so torn....Did you have to change to get him yr scorp?? or did you remain true to yourself and continue to just be you?? He told me in the beginning to keep it real...Well this is as real as its going to get...Maybe I just fell in love with the wrong type of man neverless the wrong type of Scorpio....I really cant believe I have hung in this situation for as long as I have...I still to this day, dont know where I stand...I dont believe he has a girlfriend. Why? during the time I texted him, I had told him that I was giving up on him. He responded and just said to shut up..Then he came back with, "leave me alone" famous for that and I am with my woman thank you..This is not the first time he has done this before...He mentioned this to me twice within this 2 years of nothing but yet he has taken it back, or stated it was what it was..I could go on.......What going to be next—

Ms CG, I admire your spirit....You are true to yourself. I believe that I am a very strong woman when it comes to different areas of my life. But this is the first time that my vulnerabilities have taken control of me when it comes to having an emotional love for a man. I am very weak and my energy is drained. My spirits have be lifed by another wise young woman by the name of virgo sufferer...She really brought to life, not what it is to be with a Scorpio man, but what love, relationships and real true feeling are all about. She has my respect as well as my respect also extends to you. I am hurting, alone and lost but yet I am not experiences pain. Love is a wonderful experience to have in one's life. Does time partake in the matter— Yes of course it does. You have endured time and have forseen what your true feelings have been to the wonderful man that you stand before and can truely tell him how deep is your love. My thoughts are; my love doesnt not have to die because my situation is caught up in time. knowing when you are not alone in all aspect of growing with maturity that there is true love out there, it just for one individual we all must determine if its a thought of being loved or is in existance to learn to love as well as love our selves. You speak the truth. I am just at the beginning of my journey and I hope we can continue to learn from one another. Its amazing how we are able to give apart of ourselves to strangers but yet for the one's we face, we harbor apart of ourselves, that my well be the key to internal love and respect. My hat's off to you and I hope maybe as we continue to share our inner most feelings and thought's, that I may be able to return the favor and say " hey let me tell you"..Thank you very much...I will still need your incouragement to pull me through this because truthly I am scared.....