Back and forth with a Taurus - Scorpio woman

I have looked through many threads here, but I decided to ask for the opinion anyway.
I am a female Scorpio,the guy is Taurean.

We were dating 1.5 years ago. After 6 months of a relationship he broke it off; however, kept messing with my head over facebook for probably good 9 months. There were compliments, pangs of jealousy and all other stuff. Up until 4 ot 5 months after break up he offered to start over and see how things go. He noted that he was not sure what he wanted, he felt the relationship progressed too quickly, and that we should slow down a bit. I agreed, but things felt awkward. He was not as affectionate and generally acted distant, even when he invited me over for a family dinner. I got so frustrated, I called it off and haven't talked to him since. A year passed, I texted him over something stupid that he posted on facebook and the conversation picked up. He started to say he misses me as a person, as a great girlfriend. If he was to date I am #1 choice and all of that stuff. We met, we even got physical. However, he still is not very affectionate and kind of quiet. He says to give it time and see what happens. That said, he was open in this conversation, because he initiated it.

I am not sure what to make out of it. Does he really like me and there is a chance, or he is just playing me.
I don't think he really is a kind to play though.

Has someone ever encountered something like that with a Taurus guy. That he says he wants to date but acts distant and somewhat disinterested. What is the best thing to do to ignite the spark.
I would like to give it a chance but I do not want to get hurt.

SO he is basically saying you should wait for him?

Men in general behave this way when they aren't ready to commit to dating which includes not wanting to commit to a real relationship period.

You have a couple of options, date him and keep your options open, therefore you open a pathway for a man/including your Taurus to step up open, another option is to leave him alone, the third option is to follow his lead and see where it takes you.

I suggest you LISTEN to him, his words are "he's not sure what he wanted, he felt the relationship progressed too quickly, and that we should slow down a bit. "

If he's not sure of what he wants then he doesn't want you. I know it seems he's not sure but generally when a man says he's not sure it's code for I'm not ready to be serious with you, which could either mean he's not feeling you enough to let go of his freedom and/or he's just not ready to tackle the hassles of being in a serious relationship which aligns itself with his behavior of being distant and disinterested.

Sometimes we women (not all women but a significant amount of women) can get her feelings misconstrued with her level of attraction for a man, assuming if it's right then he should take the next step but the reason he's not taking the next step is because he's not sure of what he wants (his words) which inevitably means he's not the feeling the same way RIGHT NOW and in order for things to take off HE MUST FEEL THE SAME WAY you're feeling or nothing will happen.

If you want to stick it out then it's okay to give him time to figure out what he wants but set a firm boundary around the time frame from which you are willing to wait.

Damn. Why you getting "physical" with a guy who acts distant and disinterested? :c

Posted by Nefer
Damn. Why you getting "physical" with a guy who acts distant and disinterested? :c

Sounds countrintuitive and potentially dangerous, but the level of physical attraction has always been very high with us. It might be all it is, unfortunately.

Posted by bkbella86
SO he is basically saying you should wait for him?

Well, that is a confusing part out there. All of this time he was the one trying to initiate something. Although the break up was painful, I took a stance of observing what he is going to do and not offering anything. When I questioned him about being distant, he says that he generally is not an excitable person, and this is true him. He also said that all of the touchey feeley stuff he did when we were dating was to please me.
That said, I am deffinitely keeping my options open and will not shut down a new guy if I meet someone good.

Posted by tiki33
Men in general behave this way when they aren't ready to commit to dating which includes not wanting to commit to a real relationship period.

You have a couple of options, date him and keep your options open, therefore you open a pathway for a man/including your Taurus to step up open, another option is to leave him alone, the third option is to follow his lead and see where it takes you.

I suggest you LISTEN to him, his words are "he's not sure what he wanted, he felt the relationship progressed too quickly, and that we should slow down a bit. "

If he's not sure of what he wants then he doesn't want you. I know it seems he's not sure but generally when a man says he's not sure it's code for I'm not ready to be serious with you, which could either mean he's not feeling you enough to let go of his freedom and/or he's just not ready to tackle the hassles of being in a serious relationship which aligns itself with his behavior of being distant and disinterested.

Sometimes we women (not all women but a significant amount of women) can get her feelings misconstrued with her level of attraction for a man, assuming if it's right then he should take the next step but the reason he's not taking the next step is because he's not sure of what he wants (his words) which inevitably means he's not the feeling the same way RIGHT NOW and in order for things to take off HE MUST FEEL THE SAME WAY you're feeling or nothing will happen.

If you want to stick it out then it's okay to give him time to figure out what he wants but set a firm boundary around the time frame from which you are willing to wait.

Question about the second option Tiki. DO men have an issue knowing your dating other men? From your experience? And also when do you divulge that they arent the only one your seeing?

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Posted by bkbella86
SO he is basically saying you should wait for him?

Well, that is a confusing part out there. All of this time he was the one trying to initiate something. Although the break up was painful, I took a stance of observing what he is going to do and not offering anything. When I questioned him about being distant, he says that he generally is not an excitable person, and this is true him. He also said that all of the touchey feeley stuff he did when we were dating was to please me.
That said, I am deffinitely keeping my options open and will not shut down a new guy if I meet someone good.

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hmm can you deal with a man who is boring and not affectionate?

Posted by tiki33
Men in general behave this way when they aren't ready to commit to dating which includes not wanting to commit to a real relationship period.

You have a couple of options, date him and keep your options open, therefore you open a pathway for a man/including your Taurus to step up open, another option is to leave him alone, the third option is to follow his lead and see where it takes you.

I suggest you LISTEN to him, his words are "he's not sure what he wanted, he felt the relationship progressed too quickly, and that we should slow down a bit. "

If he's not sure of what he wants then he doesn't want you. I know it seems he's not sure but generally when a man says he's not sure it's code for I'm not ready to be serious with you, which could either mean he's not feeling you enough to let go of his freedom and/or he's just not ready to tackle the hassles of being in a serious relationship which aligns itself with his behavior of being distant and disinterested.

Sometimes we women (not all women but a significant amount of women) can get her feelings misconstrued with her level of attraction for a man, assuming if it's right then he should take the next step but the reason he's not taking the next step is because he's not sure of what he wants (his words) which inevitably means he's not the feeling the same way RIGHT NOW and in order for things to take off HE MUST FEEL THE SAME WAY you're feeling or nothing will happen.

If you want to stick it out then it's okay to give him time to figure out what he wants but set a firm boundary around the time frame from which you are willing to wait.

This totally makes sense.
But why a guy would do this for a girl for 2 years!? And why would he say he still has feelings for me,
Obviously, situation is a bit more difficult than that.
Not to give him an excuse for his behavior, but he started a new job and he honestly said it was a top priority for him.
Also, I am from a different country and right now it is not certain if I get to stay here or not. We met when I was in college. His words were "there has always been a thought in my mind to not get too close because you might leave for home".

I like the guy (perhaps more than I should), but I do not want to be hurt. He said all he needs is for me to be happy around him.

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Posted by bkbella86
SO he is basically saying you should wait for him?

Well, that is a confusing part out there. All of this time he was the one trying to initiate something. Although the break up was painful, I took a stance of observing what he is going to do and not offering anything. When I questioned him about being distant, he says that he generally is not an excitable person, and this is true him. He also said that all of the touchey feeley stuff he did when we were dating was to please me.
That said, I am deffinitely keeping my options open and will not shut down a new guy if I meet someone good.

hmm can you deal with a man who is boring and not affectionate?

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I am uncertain.
I do not think he is boring. We seem to have a lot of fun times together. But it looks more like...friends, you know. However, every now and then he would show that he cares in little things he says or does. But not being affectionate...that might be problematic for me.

OAN i keep reading these stories in this section about a girl dating a Taurus guy and after a significant amount of time within the relationship ( years) they up and say I dont want to this anymore, and the woman claim their werent signs. This is like the 3rd story so far. Where the loyalty that people speak of when it comes to Taurus?

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Posted by bkbella86
SO he is basically saying you should wait for him?

Well, that is a confusing part out there. All of this time he was the one trying to initiate something. Although the break up was painful, I took a stance of observing what he is going to do and not offering anything. When I questioned him about being distant, he says that he generally is not an excitable person, and this is true him. He also said that all of the touchey feeley stuff he did when we were dating was to please me.
That said, I am deffinitely keeping my options open and will not shut down a new guy if I meet someone good.

hmm can you deal with a man who is boring and not affectionate?

I am uncertain.
I do not think he is boring. We seem to have a lot of fun times together. But it looks more like...friends, you know. However, every now and then he would show that he cares in little things he says or does. But not being affectionate...that might be problematic for me.

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I understand and I think anyone would feel like that. Were human and we all need affection.

Posted by robyn808
Here are some things for you to consider:

Our guys don't usually like to get serious until they got their shit together, and feel comfortable and secure that they have something worthwhile to offer. They need your respect and want you to feel proud of them, but he has to earn it, can be faked.

6 months is a good playing around period, you can get to know someone feel, without being responsible for each others feelings. It sounds like whatever feelings he's having are too strong and he's not prepared to take it to the next level at this time. It doesn't mean he wont or doesn't want too he's just not ready right now.

He may not trust his feelings right now because they came so fast and so strong. And he might want to test them over time, make sure they are real and he can count on them.

Taurus test people too, we just use our patience and stoic presences to observe how people act and react over time, and determine for ourselves what your true nature really is.

Makes sense. what kinds of test though?

Posted by robyn808
Here are some things for you to consider:

Our guys don't usually like to get serious until they got their shit together, and feel comfortable and secure that they have something worthwhile to offer. They need your respect and want you to feel proud of them, but he has to earn it, can be faked.

6 months is a good playing around period, you can get to know someone feel, without being responsible for each others feelings. It sounds like whatever feelings he's having are too strong and he's not prepared to take it to the next level at this time. It doesn't mean he wont or doesn't want too he's just not ready right now.

He may not trust his feelings right now because they came so fast and so strong. And he might want to test them over time, make sure they are real and he can count on them.

Taurus test people too, we just use our patience and stoic presences to observe how people act and react over time, and determine for ourselves what your true nature really is.

on the other side, could it be just a plain desire for sex/attention from someone familiar?
He himself told me that he tried to date but it did not work out. He has online dating profile on as well.

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Posted by robyn808
Here are some things for you to consider:

Our guys don't usually like to get serious until they got their shit together, and feel comfortable and secure that they have something worthwhile to offer. They need your respect and want you to feel proud of them, but he has to earn it, can be faked.

6 months is a good playing around period, you can get to know someone feel, without being responsible for each others feelings. It sounds like whatever feelings he's having are too strong and he's not prepared to take it to the next level at this time. It doesn't mean he wont or doesn't want too he's just not ready right now.

He may not trust his feelings right now because they came so fast and so strong. And he might want to test them over time, make sure they are real and he can count on them.

Taurus test people too, we just use our patience and stoic presences to observe how people act and react over time, and determine for ourselves what your true nature really is.

on the other side, could it be just a plain desire for sex/attention from someone familiar?
He himself told me that he tried to date but it did not work out. He has online dating profile on as well.

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ONLINE DATING Site huh?? he's keeping his options open.. and you DEFINITELY should too... x10! Don't give him anymore booty. Keep your power.

Posted by robyn808
Here are some things for you to consider:

Our guys don't usually like to get serious until they got their shit together, and feel comfortable and secure that they have something worthwhile to offer. They need your respect and want you to feel proud of them, but he has to earn it, can be faked.

Taurus test people too, we just use our patience and stoic presences to observe how people act and react over time, and determine for ourselves what your true nature really is.

@ Hermoza and robyn808, yes getting their shit together is a factor as the job is a priority. As without that they feel that they can't offer and provide you with anything. Its a matter of pride, selfworth and honour.


Taurus men have patience and need that within others too. Not sure if a Scorpio woman can match the patience of a Taurus man.

"Question about the second option Tiki. DO men have an issue knowing your dating other men? From your experience? And also when do you divulge that they arent the only one your seeing?"

You're single so what he wants doesn't compute until he's CLAIMED you and that is not something he's interested in doing given that he doesn't know what he wants.

"This totally makes sense.
But why a guy would do this for a girl for 2 years!? And why would he say he still has feelings for me,
Obviously, situation is a bit more difficult than that."

You chose to allow yourself to be strung along for 2 years, he's just participating in what you're CHOOSING to do, you're an adult and you have the power to say no to anything that's not in your own best interest.

All the signs are there that he's not that into you anymore, least not enough to carry on as things once were. All of the signs are there! He broke it off with you yet you stuck around for 9 months of headfucking after the break up only to be told that he isn't sure of what he wants, he's not affectionate, he's not attentive and yet you reward him with SEX which INDICATES to him that you've lowered your standards because you're desperate to keep him and for that behavior you've lost his respect, he now understands he's wielding 100% of the power and can treat you poorly and get away with it because LOOK he's an adult and he know he's not treating you well and if you stay in the current situation he'll lose respect for you staying in that kind of situation, he'll lose respect for you choosing him first over yourself.

Reward him with sex for his poor behavior and you get what get, nothing, you get nothing, you get crumbs, half ass treatment. He gets his cake by stringing you along with words of MAYBE SOME DAY BUT NOT RIGHT NOW and he gets to eat his cake too--sex, he gets sex without GIVING you any of his energy, time and attention.

Raise your standards! It's not about him at this point, it's about you and how you want to be treated by a man.

Posted by ellessque
what do your charts look like?

*curious*

Sadly I do not know how to obtain one; mostly so because I do not know exact time of birth for him and myself.

Posted by robyn808

Posted by Hermoza

Posted by robyn808
Here are some things for you to consider:

Our guys don't usually like to get serious until they got their shit together, and feel comfortable and secure that they have something worthwhile to offer. They need your respect and want you to feel proud of them, but he has to earn it, can be faked.

6 months is a good playing around period, you can get to know someone feel, without being responsible for each others feelings. It sounds like whatever feelings he's having are too strong and he's not prepared to take it to the next level at this time. It doesn't mean he wont or doesn't want too he's just not ready right now.

He may not trust his feelings right now because they came so fast and so strong. And he might want to test them over time, make sure they are real and he can count on them.

Taurus test people too, we just use our patience and stoic presences to observe how people act and react over time, and determine for ourselves what your true nature really is.

on the other side, could it be just a plain desire for sex/attention from someone familiar?
He himself told me that he tried to date but it did not work out. He has online dating profile on as well.

lol, Yep, I do! so how are you going to react to that? :l

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Not sure. I want to talk to him but I am not sure if the conversation will be fruitful.
I am very much confused about the situation.

Posted by tiki33
"Question about the second option Tiki. DO men have an issue knowing your dating other men? From your experience? And also when do you divulge that they arent the only one your seeing?"

You're single so what he wants doesn't compute until he's CLAIMED you and that is not something he's interested in doing given that he doesn't know what he wants.

"This totally makes sense.
But why a guy would do this for a girl for 2 years!? And why would he say he still has feelings for me,
Obviously, situation is a bit more difficult than that."

You chose to allow yourself to be strung along for 2 years, he's just participating in what you're CHOOSING to do, you're an adult and you have the power to say no to anything that's not in your own best interest.

All the signs are there that he's not that into you anymore, least not enough to carry on as things once were. All of the signs are there! He broke it off with you yet you stuck around for 9 months of headfucking after the break up only to be told that he isn't sure of what he wants, he's not affectionate, he's not attentive and yet you reward him with SEX which INDICATES to him that you've lowered your standards because you're desperate to keep him and for that behavior you've lost his respect, he now understands he's wielding 100% of the power and can treat you poorly and get away with it because LOOK he's an adult and he know he's not treating you well and if you stay in the current situation he'll lose respect for you staying in that kind of situation, he'll lose respect for you choosing him first over yourself.

Reward him with sex for his poor behavior and you get what get, nothing, you get nothing, you get crumbs, half ass treatment. He gets his cake by stringing you along with words of MAYBE SOME DAY BUT NOT RIGHT NOW and he gets to eat his cake too--sex, he gets sex without GIVING you any of his energy, time and attention.

Raise your standards! It's not about him at this point, it's about you and how you want to be treated by a man.

Maybe it just shows my naivete, but I did not communicate (and thought I got over him) with him for a year. Up until he brought up all of those sentimental conversations etc.I don't know why, it just got to me. As per sex, happen to love the thing way too much. I know that sex has been a problem with many relationships that I had. What do you think would be the b

Tiki33,
do you think it would be best to talk to him at one point (pretty soon) just to explain what I expect from situation and just see if he feels it. At the same time I do not want to pressure him into anything.

He KNOW EXACTLY what he wants and he's getting it too, sex with no strings attached, your mind and your body, a clear power move on his part.

What he's not saying to you verbally he's saying to you with his actions/behavior which is he want to maintain certain ASPECTS of the relationship without the responsibilities of a having a real relationship with you, HE'S PRESSED THE RESET BUTTON from real relationship to an emotional sexual affair that doesn't require him to be completely present with you.

I'm not saying he's deliberately playing you but yes he's playing both sides of the fence, he's saying one thing and doing another and that kind of behavior keeps you hanging on--disadvantage and allow the sex flowing without him having to do any heavy relationship lifting--advantage for him.

He's managed down your expectations and yet you stick around for that kind of behavior which tells him he can do what he wants, drag his feet and drag you along with him, clearly he's managed the relationship down to what he's comfortable with so you either except that he doesn't have much to offer you right now and continue on with the way things are now or you can raise your standards and see what happens.

What do you want? After you answer that question for yourself then decide if he's meeting your standards and if he's not meeting your standards eg treating you the way you feel you deserve to be treated then why exactly are you still allowing yourself to hang on is something you'll have to define for yourself.

If sex is the main reason why you're still hanging on then you can't expect him to rise above your small standards, he's going to give you EXACTLY what he feel your worth, crumbs and slick talk about his feelings which manipulate your feelings for him which gives him a HUGE ADVANTAGE over you because it keeps you in the exact place that keeps you at a disadvantage and feeling powerless thus if you're not receiving much in terms of having a real relationship with him and at the same time allowing yourself to be managed in such a way that doesn't benefit you then that tells you exactly how he feels.

You can't expect him to cherish you when everything you're doing reeks of desperation which inevitably sends him A MESSAGE about you that says you're not worthy of a loving healthy relationship. He can't love you if you don't demonstrate to him that you love yourself and you do that by not sticking around for crappy treatment.

No I don't think you should say anything, I think you should CHOOSE how you want to be treated, measure that from what you're receiving from him and then choose to stay or leave, if you choose to remain in contact then set boundaries on how much of you he can have mentally, emotionally and physically, this is how you raise your confidence and empower yourself.

He can't respect you if you don't show some semblance of respect for yourself, you are disrespecting yourself when you stick around for what you consider poor treatment.

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Posted by ellessque
what do your charts look like?

*curious*

Sadly I do not know how to obtain one; mostly so because I do not know exact time of birth for him and myself.

you don't need the birth time. noon will work for both of you. we know to give a take a few degrees for the moon signs and other stuff.

you just need month, date, year and a roundabout place of birth.

I'm curious about both your venus signs. i'm guessing his is in gem or maybe a fire moon.

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Well, I ran that info through an online source and it is as follows:

his - 20 degrees in taurus
mine - 27 degrees in libra.

I am not sure what it means. I'd be thankful if you could explain

Posted by tiki33
No I don't think you should say anything, I think you should CHOOSE how you want to be treated, measure that from what you're receiving from him and then choose to stay or leave, if you choose to remain in contact then set boundaries on how much of you he can have mentally, emotionally and physically, this is how you raise your confidence and empower yourself.

He can't respect you if you don't show some semblance of respect for yourself, you are disrespecting yourself when you stick around for what you consider poor treatment.

I like the guy, but I certainly want more from him.
If not "commitment right here right now", but at least "we date and work towards getting more serious and committed".
That said, even when I met him this time around after conversation I was sceptical that things will change much. I am not sure if it is a very big deal to invite a person for Thanksgiving, but this is what he did nontheless.

If you feel he's moving forward with you despite the lack of interest and affection then by all means continue on with him, if he's demonstrating that he's into you by actually dating you which means he's initiating and planning with you then of course you can decide to stick around because you're the only one that can really say what's in your best interest.

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Posted by tiki33
No I don't think you should say anything, I think you should CHOOSE how you want to be treated, measure that from what you're receiving from him and then choose to stay or leave, if you choose to remain in contact then set boundaries on how much of you he can have mentally, emotionally and physically, this is how you raise your confidence and empower yourself.

He can't respect you if you don't show some semblance of respect for yourself, you are disrespecting yourself when you stick around for what you consider poor treatment.

I like the guy, but I certainly want more from him.
If not "commitment right here right now", but at least "we date and work towards getting more serious and committed".
That said, even when I met him this time around after conversation I was sceptical that things will change much. I am not sure if it is a very big deal to invite a person for Thanksgiving, but this is what he did nontheless.

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I have invited him to go to a christmas party with me. He agreed. I guess I will see if he is serious about it. If he flakes off...well, I tried. But I know I won't be crying as I did a year ago.

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Posted by ellessque
what do your charts look like?

*curious*

Sadly I do not know how to obtain one; mostly so because I do not know exact time of birth for him and myself.

you don't need the birth time. noon will work for both of you. we know to give a take a few degrees for the moon signs and other stuff.

you just need month, date, year and a roundabout place of birth.

I'm curious about both your venus signs. i'm guessing his is in gem or maybe a fire moon.

Well, I ran that info through an online source and it is as follows:

his - 20 degrees in taurus
mine - 27 degrees in libra.

I am not sure what it means. I'd be thankful if you could explain

ugggh. taurus in venus is slow and stubborn. he will do absolutely nothing he doesn't want to and the more you try to make him the more he will dig in. FFS, he has a sun in there too!!!!

YOU on the other hand. don't get me started 😛

where is your mars?

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What about me? 🙂 Is it bad to have a libra in venus?
My mars is in 6 degrees Libra

Posted by ellessque
I knew one of you had some air in there.

either chart have any aries going on?

no, no aries in any of the charts

Posted by ellessque
i can't imagine him being overtly affectionate, ever.

Although he was affectionate when we dated, he confessed doing it because he felt I wanted/needed it.
He himself states he is not that emotional/excitable/affectionate type of guy.
That assessment also matches what his family says about him aswell.

"Your version of what i say/said is more long term relationship view. what was meant was current dating that grew as time progressed"

any thoughts on what this could mean?

Posted by ellessque


he's not fucking with you, you are fucking with yourself.

(FFS VENUS AND MARS IN LIBRA!!!!!!!!! *head desk* 😛)

You are right. He said I have a tendency to overanalize stuff.

So what does that really imply if I have venus and mars in libra? Good or bad?

Posted by ellessque
nothing is "good or bad" about any placements. it's just understanding it and keeping tabs on the not so pleasant parts.

I have venus in libra.

It just means you are indecisive at times. We love the mushy affectionate stuff...in small doses. Get close to making a commitment and we are usually the ones who freeze up or pee our pants.

You might have been feeling something that was making you uncomfortable and acting out which probably confused him because he has all that earth.

You also hate confrontation and if you beat around the bush constantly to appease him, you WILL drive him nuts. he will think you aren't taking things all that seriously....hence, "Let's go slow (....because you are really really confusing me right now)"

He actually thinks I wanted a long term relationship with him right away.
Eventually I started to want it (after he said the "L" word and all that)though.

However, I have always doubted him. Mostly because he did not communicate with me as I wanted him to (very rarely, mostly through texts, very short, direct speach, no mushy stuff). Maybe that is what he has picked up on.

Posted by ellessque
you are probably attracted to the not so affectionate part of him, aren't you? 😛

It is hard for me to pinpoint what really attracts me. All I know is that when I am around him I can feel and sense that I am with a Man (not a guy or a boy).

I think he has good morals, he wants family/children like I do, he is fairly stable. All of his family members ask for his help/advice if something goes wrong. Not to mention that he is physically very attractive and sex is just oh so irresistable.
Plenty of good qialities that unfortunately come with a big problem - failure to convey thoughts in an understandable (for me) manner.

Posted by ellessque
everyone communicates at their own pace. he may have merc in taurus or aries. it's unlikely it's in gemini if he's not talking your ear off all the time.

if yours is in sag, you will have a hard time with someone who makes things short and sweet in speech, but you can learn to get used to it and appreciate it for what it is. but if you have merc in libra, you'll always have a hard time communicating with him because you *need* the constant back and forth to feel unification. if yours is in scorp, you'll be fine just don't use manipulating speech because he'll get annoyed.

mine is in sag, his in taurus.
And damn right, it is challenging for me. I made a point to observe him more to get what he really communicates.

Posted by ellessque


how about try to take everything he says at face value for awhile and not read into it? I know it's hard but it would be an excellent experience for you that you can even use later. Unless his actions don't match his words, you shouldn't have to worry about all the underlying meanings of his words. There aren't any.

If he's not being forthcoming with you, eventually he'll call himself out anyways. His conscious won't allow him to hurt you if you are being real with him. Taurus does not like the mindfuckery games other signs get off on. They do not like seeing people close to them being hurt by their hands.

If he says something that is unclear to you.....ASK HIM to clarify. Don't sit with it and let it fester in a million directions on what you "think" he meant.

He doesn't sound like a bad guy. He seems to have had a lot of patience with you. It's your turn now.

I think non-matching words and actions might be a problem too in our pairing. I will have to observe I guess.

You think him resurfacing after a break up a 1.5 years ago and trying to reconcile with me twice is "the patience" he showed? He aknowledges the fallbacks on his part (communication problems, not knowing what he wants) yet looks like does little to nothing about it. He never accused me of anything though. Was never rude. And now this crap, "my feelings never really changed". Should I be the initiator in this situation? I think he might be expecting to see how I respond and what I do since he kind of offered to reconcile.

Posted by ellessque
LOL @ merc in sag and his in taurus

you are adorable 😄

yeah, his speech grinds your effin nerves.

I have merc in sag.......ugggh, try communicating with a merc in cap!!!!!!!!!!

we use words in excess because we have to. we know no other way and we can't be "trained" not to. lol

same with merc in taur. he says EXACTLY what he means with as little words as possible. he's lazy 😄

can't change that, honey. it is what it is. 🙂

if he can even spit out a few words.....you should be very grateful he even bothered 😄

That is spot on.
Ahh...that might be the root of communication problems.

thanks, ellesque

Robyn808, how did i hurt him? I explained myself the best i could.

His mars is in scorpio

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Posted by Hermoza
His mars is in scorpio

lol. good luck with that one!

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what are the implications?

Posted by ellessque

Posted by scorchedearth

Posted by Hermoza
His mars is in scorpio

lol. good luck with that one!

Shush!!!!!

Just nod and smile 😄

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do i have a tough combo in the face of that man? Everyone seems to say...good luck.and all....

He likes to answer questions with phrases like "a bit", "it's up to you", "i dont care", "every now and then". That usually frustrates me as hell. I tend to see it as a no or, well, he does not give a damn. However, his step father said that all of that junk he says means yes, because if it is a firm no, he will just say exactly that. Am i overreacting or his step dad is right?

Libra in Venus, lawrd yall are some damn pain freaks and listening skills are zero when emotions are clouding judgement, no wonder he can treat you like crap and get away with it and you'll still be asking does he like me even after he's demonstrated he doesn't like you in that way. Just do your own thing and let the chips fall where they may.

Posted by ellessque
the fucking retrograde is over.

...*insert Handel "Messiah" Chorus*.....
"AAAAlle-LUjah!!, Aaaalle-LUjah!!-Alle-LU-jah!! Alle-LU-jah!..Alleeee-Lujah!"

Thank you everyone for the input. Lots of valuable advice and ideas.
I will be very careful and will proceed with caution.
I think if a boy wants slow, maybe I should give him slow too.