I heard the word..

After a whole year and a few months of intense love dissapearings and huge fight( it was bad) I finally heard the "I love you alot, would love to still have you there 20-30 years later" coming out of a taurus sun scorp rising scorp moon guy. Yes that same taurus guy. I know.

He said he got himself a girlfriend. Its very new. He told me if he didnt want to, he would not have answered me or wanted to be there with me but he is here. We had a good long chat. Heart to heart, for the first time.

What I still don't know is.. what on earth does this guy feel for me. For those of you who dont know the story, before you ask, we have always been more than friends

Is either of us ever going to be able to let whatever it is we have here go.

so you guys became a couple? or he is with someone else now? sorry, i'm confused :/

I also am Very confused myself Jeane. He is with someone else.. but the way he looks at me. Its a whole different story.

you need to go back the to golden rule of relationships - actions speak louder than words.

discount the noise, he has chosen some else. giving value to anything beyond that is just a waste of time.

he just wants to hang around for him, waiting for the day he decides to show you some attention. it's incredibly selfish and uncaring for you, your emotions and your time.

if he loved you so much, he would be with you.

I guess what you are saying is right. We just never talked about emotions. I doubt neither of us ever knew what the other party truly feels.

It has always been a struggle. It all came out pouring this time. Probably is new to both of us to open up like that.

Posted by seezythescorpion
I guess what you are saying is right. We just never talked about emotions. I doubt neither of us ever knew what the other party truly feels.

It has always been a struggle. It all came out pouring this time. Probably is new to both of us to open up like that.

and so now he knows how you feel is he still in the relationship?

He told me he is going to call me. I dont know what hes thinking.

You know what our biggest problem has been? Choosing between "the power of love and the love of power"..

Posted by seezythescorpion
He told me he is going to call me. I dont know what hes thinking.

You know what our biggest problem has been? Choosing between "the power of love and the love of power"..

oh good. did he say he would call you "soon"?

He didnt say soon. He said he will call me.

Seezy, this guy has been a fucking cunt. Anyway, as Jeane said, he chose someone else. All that fucking about he did pretending he didn't know what he was doing or feeling and all that was just utter bullshit. Why? Because he didn't have the same issues when it came to asking another girl to be his girlfriend. Yet he wants you to hang around as a back up through his life. He doesn't seem to be quality friend material. On the other hand, well, there's always another hand and another side to it.

I'm disappointed to hear this.

Posted by seezythescorpion
After a whole year and a few months of intense love dissapearings and huge fight( it was bad) I finally heard the "I love you alot, would love to still have you there 20-30 years later" coming out of a taurus sun scorp rising scorp moon guy. Yes that same taurus guy. I know.

He said he got himself a girlfriend. Its very new. He told me if he didnt want to, he would not have answered me or wanted to be there with me but he is here. We had a good long chat. Heart to heart, for the first time.

What I still don't know is.. what on earth does this guy feel for me. For those of you who dont know the story, before you ask, we have always been more than friends

Is either of us ever going to be able to let whatever it is we have here go.

So... what made you decide to contact him out of the blue?

I'm disappointed to read this. I feel for you, but i 100% agree on what jeane said - people who stop choosing us must seize to be the right people for us.
When he does call you and make you sure he ditched that someone he is seeing now, maybe only then we can discuss that creature. Now its just a mutual waste of time.
You can tell this ti him. I heard Tauruses value straightforwardness 😉

Posted by wicked
Hi!
This thread got me confused.
He loves you(?)
But he has a gf of few months or a steady gf (?)
And you guys are together (?) Or fwb
Did he say he is going to break up with his present gf?
And this guy has already pulled the disappearing act on few occasions.
Now he has asked you to wait.... wait to be his gf? Or he has to weigh in the pros and cons of being your bf?

Me and him had an on and off thing for over a year. Never talked about emotions. It has always been a power struggle sort of thing between us. Loads of ups and downs, and dissapearing on both ends.( mine was for self protection, and he admitted his was to protect me cuz he didnt know what he was doing with his life) but we always came back to each other.

We had a fall over a month+ ago after a huge fight and i texted him saying this butter i cant take. No reaction from him. We havent talked for 6 weeks. Then he likes what im posting on socialmedia.

The connection i felt with this guy was over the moon. I called him and he was next to me within 20 mins. Nothing sexual happened just the talk. Thats when he told me about his gf and all other i mentioned above. There was no gf a month ago so its new. He told me he is pretending to be happy to the outside world but he truly isnt.

Posted by AgentP911
Seezy, this guy has been a fucking cunt. Anyway, as Jeane said, he chose someone else. All that fucking about he did pretending he didn't know what he was doing or feeling and all that was just utter bullshit. Why? Because he didn't have the same issues when it came to asking another girl to be his girlfriend. Yet he wants you to hang around as a back up through his life. He doesn't seem to be quality friend material. On the other hand, well, there's always another hand and another side to it.

I'm disappointed to hear this.

Agent dissapointment is an understatement. Do u feel me!

these guys though, when they truly want you they won't stop. they don't stop talking to you, they don't take no for an answer, it is like they impervious to anything and anyone you put in front of them. i've never experienced anything like it.

typical conversation would go something like this

a: do you want to?
b: no
a: do you want to?
b: no, i don't
a: so do you want to?
b: oh my god, no!
a: do you want to?
b: NO NO NO NO!
a: so you do want to?
b: jesus mary and joseph....ok

there is no way of getting out of it once they have made their mind up. this guy is just messing with you and has been for a year now. (and he is being an absolute arsehole to his girlfriend as well)

Posted by TaurusMarine
I'm disappointed to read this. I feel for you, but i 100% agree on what jeane said - people who stop choosing us must seize to be the right people for us.
When he does call you and make you sure he ditched that someone he is seeing now, maybe only then we can discuss that creature. Now its just a mutual waste of time.
You can tell this ti him. I heard Tauruses value straightforwardness 😉

The poison i spat was all over the place. He knows my anger is as strong as my love. And thats how he realised he values me cuz now he knows im real.

Posted by wicked
If you love each other, ask him to do the right thing. If he loves you, he shouldnt mess up another gal's head. And meet you in btwn. You both need to be honest with each other. Avoid power struggles. You both shld value and respect each other. Acknowledge what you feel for each other. Both of you. Learn to work as a team.
And if he reached u immediately, he must be crazy about u. Agreed.
But he shldnt string the other gal along now.

I wouldnt let that happen either. I mean stringing any of us along. I didnt know about the girl untill he told me. It felt like i could die right there.

After all this time, with all that happened, knowing that it was me calling, he didnt avoid the call and went as far as coming to meet me. That should mean something. Hes gotta ask himself why he couldnt avoid meeting me or rejecting my call. If he feels the connection as i do.. ill recieve that call without a gf in the scene.

Hm you ladies here gave out great advice.

What's the lesson learned here? @OP-

You will not be the number one queen, you will be the side chick, and let there be no cheating on his part with you. You know he has some one else now. Can you break away fast..

Stop it, and don't talk to him.

Find someone else to give emotions too.

@OP- What is the word you heard?

@BlackMamba? What's up, how are you doing?

Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428
Hm you ladies here gave out great advice.

What's the lesson learned here? @OP-

You will not be the number one queen, you will be the side chick, and let there be no cheating on his part with you. You know he has some one else now. Can you break away fast..

Stop it, and don't talk to him.

Very aware of that. Though it hurts, you can bet i will do the right thing just for the sake of that girl.

believe me or not, i didnt care one bit about the hell he put me through to get to this point.

only if she wasnt in the scene when we had this talk.

Everything happens for a reason. Its all good.

Posted by elllesque
Welcome to the taurus harem!

*throws confetti*

Hold on...I have the parting gifts in my car.....

Oh you celebrating fellow scorp sun aries mooner? Lets hope u never get those confettis urself. Trust me not a good thing to party over.

You can keep your gifts in the car too.

Posted by elllesque
I was actually recycling the confetti that was used at my party 😛

Trying to save the environment.

Lol. Nice one.

These parties nowadays sucks.

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Posted by seezythescorpion

Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428
Hm you ladies here gave out great advice.

What's the lesson learned here? @OP-

You will not be the number one queen, you will be the side chick, and let there be no cheating on his part with you. You know he has some one else now. Can you break away fast..

Stop it, and don't talk to him.

Very aware of that. Though it hurts, you can bet i will do the right thing just for the sake of that girl.

believe me or not, i didnt care one bit about the hell he put me through to get to this point.

only if she wasnt in the scene when we had this talk.

Everything happens for a reason. Its all good.

I am truly sorry and feel your pain. Taurus can leave such a deep mark on a person's heart. You deserve better. Please just mourn him and move on.. Never allow yourself go be a part of his harem. He obviously did not respect you or value you as he would not have done this to you. Look after yourself.

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Do you know what hurts me the most busy.. i for a fact know that those kind of lines i mentioned in my first post doesnt come easily to neither a taurus or a scorpio.. that comes from deep within and takes alot of time to say to someone.

And it truly sucks that what i could die for, i cant do anything about.

Posted by seezythescorpion
Do you know what hurts me the most busy.. i for a fact know that those kind of lines i mentioned in my first post doesnt come easily to neither a taurus or a scorpio.. that comes from deep within and takes alot of time to say to someone.

And it truly sucks that what i could die for, i cant do anything about.

you know, at one point i would have agreed with you but the number of women that come on here and say this guy told me he loved me, we were going to get married, i was going to have his children...blah blah blah and then he disappears! i'm coming to the conclusion that some men (regardless of sign) will say anything. now i knew this before (in theory) but i had never dealt with it personally. maybe because i never allowed them to think it would work with me but anyway, some guys will say anything if it mean they can still get the p.

i go back to if he truly loved you, he would be single! he would be pining over you! there would be no woman that could compare. he certainly wouldn't have spent the time getting to know someone long enough for them to become his girlfriend.

@Jeane,

I know where ur coming from exactly. I didnt ask him how long hes been getting to know the girl for. I shut down completely. All i know is that i was in his bed a month ago and he even asked me to stay at his and leave for work from there in the morning if i wanted to.

I doubt he knows her for long. The relationship is new. I strongly dont feel he would need me there if this girl was a part of his life then. If she was i know he would have told me.

Now that he has a girl and a p. he didnt really have to tell me all that to keep me there. He still wants to see me, if he likes the girl that much why come to me when u already have her.

I can guarantee you he would hate the idea of me being with someone else.

Weve been through alot to play these games now.

Though im aware what i said above doesnt change anything.

It was me who texted him saying that our paths wouldnt cross again. Im sure he thought i meant it. I thought i did too.

Crazy, right.

Posted by seezythescorpion
@Jeane,

I know where ur coming from exactly. I didnt ask him how long hes been getting to know the girl for. I shut down completely. All i know is that i was in his bed a month ago and he even asked me to stay at his and leave for work from there in the morning if i wanted to.

I doubt he knows her for long. The relationship is new. I strongly dont feel he would need me there if this girl was a part of his life then. If she was i know he would have told me.

Now that he has a girl and a p. he didnt really have to tell me all that to keep me there. He still wants to see me, if he likes the girl that much why come to me when u already have her.

I can guarantee you he would hate the idea of me being with someone else.

Weve been through alot to play these games now.

i can understand you shutting down but you're thinking like a woman, you gotta think like a guy. variety is the spice of life, why stick with one p when you can have two?

and no guy wants to be another guy's sloppy seconds. of course he would hate it if you were with someone else. that's not so much about you but about competition with other men. it doesn't mean he can't legitimately be with more than one woman. there are two sets of rules; one for us, one for them.

this is a guy who made you wait, played mind games, toyed with your emotions, fondled you when convenient for him, spoke in riddles and gave you promises that he never fulfilled. unless he has a cultural, family reason, i find it hard to believe that you would keep you dangling on a string for the last 15 months but jump straight into a relationship with a woman who is a virtual stranger. the only other reason i can think of is that he has strong feelings for her but he is messing with you so that means it is unlikely.

i say this in the nicest way possible, but you're making excuse after excuse for him. if you have such a great connection, why is he sleeping with someone else? it doesn't make sense. these facts are mutually exclusive. they both cannot be true statements.

Ive heard you and im gona let this go.

Probably Easier now that hes in a relationship.
I just wish things could be different.

I never really felt anything like this before.

Posted by seezythescorpion
I also am Very confused myself Jeane. He is with someone else.. but the way he looks at me. Its a whole different story.

Exact same shit happened to me w a Virgo sun Scorp moon - he had a girlfriend but had a thing for me. When wed talk neither of us would let go of eachothers eyes.

Posted by seezythescorpion
Ive heard you and im gona let this go.

Probably Easier now that hes in a relationship.
I just wish things could be different.

I never really felt anything like this before.

You'll get it again. Next time it might be real. Good last post by Jeane.

Disappointment was a total understatement. Yes, I feel you. Totally.

I actually felt physically sick after reading your post. He needs to be history. This dude is NOT of good calibre.

Just a little update here..

So he texted me and told me one of our mutual friends on FB asked him if he knows me in a way to know what kind of girl i am. (I knew the guy fancied me) He said he told him that he doesnt know me. Whats that all about?

@OP- I'm sorry your New Year didn't start out right.
SO try to regain strength, control, and there are plenty of people out there for you, just be patient. Let that SoB go. And never look back.


So how do you feel about that?
You now got the answer you needed to know. When he said that. It's rude.

Happy new year!

For me actually it isnt bad. I am doing well. Not affected much by this.

Its already getting better for me because thats what i work for. I am a big girl, i will be just fine.

Tbh i don't know how i feel about it. I dont know why he told that guy he doesnt know me and why he needed to tell me this. Only trying to understand. Its weird.

@OP- I don't like games like that. Oh I don't know her, but you do. Because we talk still. Haha. Be careful and glad you didn't mess around with him. The longer you hold out, the shorter it is to know someone truly..

It takes two days- one year to get to know someone. We meet alot of people with in that time frame as well.
So sometimes we stay single and weigh options. If Taurus are ready you don't have to worry. If Taurus aren't ready they might play the field, less responsibility and no hurt feelings.


Circumstances change all the time. Red flags pop unfortunately all the time.. and decisions need to be thought out carefully..

Hopefully you have a detached moon and rising. To really let it go. And enjoy new conquests.

I dont either. He could keep it to himself.

I dont know what kind of reaction he may have been looking for.

Im trying to move on since he has. Its weird he has told me this.

Im a sag rising and aries moon. So im doing my best against all scorp placements. Lol

@OP- Dang well I have Aquarius moon but I have Cancer rising. So talk about deep feelings deep down and then to idc any more I see how you are type. It's no good I can pick up weird vibes that actually help me out early on.. But I want to be friends but usually that doesn't work. Especially if they're good looking. Damn.

Well hope it works for you somehow..

Posted by busyeyes88

Posted by seezythescorpion
I dont either. He could keep it to himself.

I dont know what kind of reaction he may have been looking for.

Im trying to move on since he has. Its weird he has told me this.

He just wanted to get a reaction from you... Just keep it moving...

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For what reason that may be do you think busy?

^^^ to get you thinking about it and him. As you are now. Probably hoping you'll reply or some shit.

By all means talk about it here but don't give that dude ANY attention in any format. Not even asking the mutual friend about it.

None of it is relevant anyway.

Errr is the mutual friend who maybe likes you nice? Or you just mates?

There could be a simpler explanation in that he said he didn't know you so it would end the conversation there and then. He's hardly gonna say 'yeah she's alright, I had a thing with her etc but I wasn't into her as much' so by saying he doesn't know you takes him out the equation.

@Agent.. hmm i guess my reaction shouldnt be that much of an importance to a guy who told me he has a gf.

I come here and calm down by getting all insights and im off feeling alot better.

I just acted like it was nothing all i said was " what did he want know about me through you? Just curious" He said he asked if i know you . I said "i understood🙂" That was all really.

That mutual friend is after me but i didnt give him the time of the day (not replying to msgs etc) so he is loosing it. Bull is not the only person he asked after me i came to find out.

Thats madness.

Posted by jeane
these guys though, when they truly want you they won't stop. they don't stop talking to you, they don't take no for an answer, it is like they impervious to anything and anyone you put in front of them. i've never experienced anything like it.

typical conversation would go something like this

a: do you want to?
b: no
a: do you want to?
b: no, i don't
a: so do you want to?
b: oh my god, no!
a: do you want to?
b: NO NO NO NO!
a: so you do want to?
b: jesus mary and joseph....ok

there is no way of getting out of it once they have made their mind up. this guy is just messing with you and has been for a year now. (and he is being an absolute arsehole to his girlfriend as well)

Jeane, my excellent advice giver friend...do u have a lot of taurus guy experience? If so, I'd love to hear a few some day 🙂 Do they really pursue that way if they want u badly?? I thought they had big egos...

Posted by aqualady0118

Posted by jeane
these guys though, when they truly want you they won't stop. they don't stop talking to you, they don't take no for an answer, it is like they impervious to anything and anyone you put in front of them. i've never experienced anything like it.

typical conversation would go something like this

a: do you want to?
b: no
a: do you want to?
b: no, i don't
a: so do you want to?
b: oh my god, no!
a: do you want to?
b: NO NO NO NO!
a: so you do want to?
b: jesus mary and joseph....ok

there is no way of getting out of it once they have made their mind up. this guy is just messing with you and has been for a year now. (and he is being an absolute arsehole to his girlfriend as well)

Jeane, my excellent advice giver friend...do u have a lot of taurus guy experience? If so, I'd love to hear a few some day 🙂 Do they really pursue that way if they want u badly?? I thought they had big egos...

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This Taurus dude I've seen a couple of times is exactly as Jeane put it. I'd not experienced it before. It was odd because I'd said no and stated my case but he kept asking me to go round his, every day, for 9 days straight, yet he failed to actually ask me out out. I almost lost it with him and nearly said 'are you a fucking dumb shit or just deaf? I said no!!!!' But in a weird way I kind of like his persistence. Wtf is that all about!!!

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Posted by seezythescorpion

Posted by busyeyes88

Posted by seezythescorpion
I dont either. He could keep it to himself.

I dont know what kind of reaction he may have been looking for.

Im trying to move on since he has. Its weird he has told me this.

He just wanted to get a reaction from you... Just keep it moving...

For what reason that may be do you think busy?

This is keeping his options open with you but and very sadly keeping you within reach on the sly.
I didn't read everything. Held up for time.
But if a guy has good intentions,he will tell the world about you.
If he sees you as a great gal but doesn't care for you in a special way, he will let his guy friend know how great u r and how good u r a friend to him.
Only jerks say things like what he said.
Pls don't try to glorify his actions. Don't romantize it.
Maybe he doesn't want to give up his invisible(?) hold over you. Maybe he doesn't wanna say anything good abt u to him, worried his friend could want u and get u. Or he could be a real asshole who doesn't want people to know he knows you. All leads to seriously bad hidden motives,agendas and manipulative tricks.
In simple words - He is not a great guy. Not even an OK sort. Ask yourself if u have a daughter, would u want her around this type of guy? There you have your answer.
Is this the type of guy u wanna be with?
Pls bear in mind I didn't read your full posts.
Wish u the best.

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The daughter bit is a great way of looking at it. We are training my ten year old brother to treat girls with manners and respect. Even if the little shit takes the piss out of his big sister by telling her she's got too much perfume on and dances round singing about me going on a date!

You Scorps have got to stop falling for these sleazy Tauruses

Posted by SassyKiwi
You Scorps have got to stop falling for these sleazy Tauruses

No falling here.

If OP had heart to heart for the first time...how come she is still confused about future and don
't know the future of him and gf?

I think the issue is OP doesn't know what heart to heart talk means.

Posted by aqualady0118

Posted by jeane
these guys though, when they truly want you they won't stop. they don't stop talking to you, they don't take no for an answer, it is like they impervious to anything and anyone you put in front of them. i've never experienced anything like it.

typical conversation would go something like this

a: do you want to?
b: no
a: do you want to?
b: no, i don't
a: so do you want to?
b: oh my god, no!
a: do you want to?
b: NO NO NO NO!
a: so you do want to?
b: jesus mary and joseph....ok

there is no way of getting out of it once they have made their mind up. this guy is just messing with you and has been for a year now. (and he is being an absolute arsehole to his girlfriend as well)

Jeane, my excellent advice giver friend...do u have a lot of taurus guy experience? If so, I'd love to hear a few some day 🙂 Do they really pursue that way if they want u badly?? I thought they had big egos...

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a little bit, only with one guy - my current bf. i have a good female friend who is also a taurus but i'm certainly i'm no expert. i have been haunting this board for a while though and i've noticed a few patterns.

yeah, hit me up on pm if you have a question. i can't guarantee i'll be right but i'm happy to tell you a bit of my experience with them. 🙂