UPDATE!!!!

so me and the tuarus are talking...out of nowhere again he tells me to never message him again... lol
i told him that he knows everytime he threatens me liek that it stings, but he keeps doing it...

he then said that hes serious... he tries to be nice but i just irritate him, so dont tlak to him anymore.

I agreed
then he messages me minutes later saying: listen u ass.... stop making me feel guilty...

i then told him that im not trying to, and if hes just tryna be nice, not to bother, becuase hes just going to end up blowing up at me again, i will egt hurt and vise versa, theres no point...

he agreed, and then told me why he got upset...
and i explained my side...

we then continued tlaking * about him thinking my friend is hot * and he says my reaction was abit off, becuase i didnt want to hook him up with her, but instead my other friend... he then asked me if i liked him, and that i boggle his mind...

i ignored that and basiclaly said, the one he thinks is hot is taken, so y would i hook him up with her?

he didnt believe me tho, and kept syaing... nooooooooooo, thats not it... something is bothering you.....

anyways... i told him to jsut message her then,
and we continued tlaking...

what i wanna kno is.... even though im 90% sure of the answer....

he just likes me as a FRIEND right?

God Damn I hate games.... Why cant people be straight up with each other any more—

NO shitskies. Ask him LIL'..tell him to shit or get off the damned pot already. :/

Pfff..... They're both playing games with each other...

I know this, but one of them needs to speak the hell up and quit tap dancing around the issue at hand.

I already express my feelings enuff .... He knows I like him ... He said so himself lol

So I'm not going to say anything unless he does ... Cuz he's the one always yanking me around

That's the thing though lil'. He knows you dig him. He enjoys talking to you. LOL He does, or he wouldn't. It's a big ego stroke for him. How could it not be. It's entirely too convenient for both of you to ignore the elephant in the room. I'll draw on an experience if you like. I was crushing hardcore on another Taurus in school. I thought he was absolutely beautiful. Tall, broad as a barn, sleepy blue-gray eyes, cuddly. I'd have fit in his arms perfectly, knew it. The sun could have directly shone on him and I'd not have been surprised a bit. This girl was gonesville. I would flirt with him shamelessly as teenaged girls do. Peeksie eyes, smiling, letting my laughter ring out. We spoke, but not often. Just in class. He watched me. Now this went on junior year..senior year...until one day one of my friends was talking to him and I was standing beside her and she said "Don't you think she's pretty?" He locked eyes with me and seriously said "I think you are beautiful." My reaction? Blushed 3 shades of red, and said "Really?!" and just laughed not believing it. After we graduated school, I was at the grocery store, and I saw him. I ran up to him hollering his name and he pulled me into his arms, swung me round and planted the most perfect kiss on me. The one that I remember every nuance too to this very day. He looked down at me, his eyes searching and he said "Do you know HOW LONG I've wanted to DO THAT?!" I smiled and said "As long as I've wanted you too?!" And he hauled me in again while his buddies looked at the both of us surprised.
Most excellent memory there. 🙂 My point is that we are each..Bull to Bull, similar. One will speak, the other will acknowledge the situ, absorb it..and place a couple of Bullish cheeks spang on it. Let that marinate. Let it work in. Two Bulls will say one HELL of a lot with minimal words. This is why I urge action, not inaction. Even if it gives him a huge goose in the ass. Both of you will adopt the "Not gonna if he/she won't", and this could go on for YEARS. No shit. Both of you circling and circling round it, neither moving. So there it sits, when something could be done with it. I'm not putting this all on you either, I'm empathizing and giving you a nudge. 🙂

Posted by TaurGuy


God Damn I hate games.... Why cant people be straight up with each other any more—

AGREED!

Posted by TaurGuy


God Damn I hate games.... Why cant people be straight up with each other any more—

So true...

Appears the guy has no romantic interest for LiL and interested some other chick....If he could only say that instead of playing all the damn head games she'd get it already and move on.

Unfortunately as long as there are ovaries and testicles, there will be games. :/

if he keeps yanking you around, why do you put up with it? good riddance to the guy.

Flat out amazing how much one puts up with when one is sliding down that slope, eh? She's feeling the dude. Everyone knows when you're in that state it will either:

A: Progress, follow its path.
B: Someone will get friend zoned.
C: Part ways.

But until it hits one of those points, devil be DAMNED that anything is going to stand in the way of a charging Bull. There may be regression, dancing about, blah blah to infinity ..BUT..when that tunnel vision locks in and someone is right in the cross-hairs the fur is gonna fly. Good, bad or indifferent. Romantic? YAY! Friend? BOOOOO, BUT..there is someone wonderful in your life regardless. Part ways? Ultimate Suck Town. The point I am trying to drive home is ( into the ground? ) is that two Taureans dynamic is so read between the lines different. It just is. An Aries would flat out TELL you, a Pisces would woo you, a Scorp will claim you..a Taurus? They'll watch ya..and have you guessing and ripping your damned hair out. And unless someone tries to move forward in some way, or lay distinct lines down, it'll lay there. And lay there..and ahhhh yeh. Lay there. ( Did I mention lay there? )
He'll continue on making her a schizo with cryptic messages, and she'll keep wondering what the frack is doodling around in his brain. And ya know what? Neither will say shit if they have a mouth full. Unless one of them gets pissed off. But even THAT is better than stalemate. All the wanting in the world don't get shit unless someone says "Boo!" Sitting around sighing and drawing his name on the fogged glass gets zippedy doo da. Now either this guy is feeling HER or NOT, but oh buddy is there a way to find out. Open that God-given gash under your nose and ASK. May not be the answer you want, might be everything you need, but at least you'll KNOW.

A man that is interested will show interest, if he's not interested he'll pussy foot around, get annoyed/irritated, disappear, blow up, feel guilt for being a douche, ask about other women hoping she catches the hint etc etc, the last thing he would do is ask about another woman if he was interested in her, I don't know the whole story but from the little I read he's being clear that he doesn't want to be bothered with her but he's also having a bit of fun f*cking with her head, he's probably just bored and annoyed and like the idea that a woman is giddy over him, soaking it all up, I'm sure he's boggled by the idea that she sticks around, chases him despite his douchebaggery behavior towards her. Her being a Taurus will push for what she wants but it won't work but its fun yet quite painful to keep trying.

he just likes me as a FRIEND right? Yes

No one is textbook, and while I respect your opinion nothing is *clear* just yet. This interaction is in its infancy. And absolutely he'd ask her about another woman to gauge her reaction. MOST men do indeed pussy foot about, blow up, get annoyed/irritated, disappear and feel guilt for being a douche. Called being human. I'd say men with their shit together enough to gun for someone with minimal fanfare are pretty few and far between. Bit like a rainbow over the septic tank.
Only he knows for certain if he likes her for a friend or more. All we can do is speculate over half of a situation. No more, no less.

Whoa, if he's contemplating in his own head dating/hooking up with any of your friends, hell no he's not interested in you past friendship, if that.

It's even worse that he actually had the nerve to mention his fantasies about your friends to you! That's crazy!

If you know he's jerking you around, I don't know whether to be more disappointed in him for doing so OR in you for actually knowing this & yet allowing him to!

A man that isn't into you will def. allow you to keep stroking his ego even if he can't see himself with you long term. He knows you're feeling him & he's probably liking the ego boost that you're giving him.

He's probably in shock that you continue to like him so much even though he's only giving you the MINIMUM!

He may be interested in you now but he won't be for long if he gets the sense that you'll accept the minimum from him. If you don't give him the incentive to work for you, earn you & prove himself, he'll never consider you a challenge

And if he doesn't consider you a challenge...nuff said...I think you know the rest

I believe this is why so many women experience huge disappointments with dating and men, the women appear to have no self esteem by accepting the minimum which translate over to a man that he can do/say/behave any way he wants to without any consequences which only keeps the mistreatment and mixed messages circulating, IMO women that aren't willing to gauge interactions properly end up very hurt. It's clear he's treating her half ass but she sticks around for it, that can't end well.

Women who settle or believe there isn't enough good mature men out there NORMALIZE mistreatment, NORMALIZE half ass behavior from men and put up with head fuck games only to continue the cycle of making excuses for it, enough rejection and her self esteem can't but take a hit every time this guy rejects her or tells her to go away or don't ever contact me again, that can't feel good, there is no reason to put up with his behavior unless deep down she doesn't feel she can do better....

I know I couldn't stick around, I want a man that wants me and is okay with showing me he wants me and not some guy that act like he doesn't want me and continues to push me away only to come back around when it's convenient or only to push me out again (talk about mind fuck), I don't see anything fun about the whole process.

Posted by krysrenee7
Whoa, if he's contemplating in his own head dating/hooking up with any of your friends, hell no he's not interested in you past friendship, if that.

It's even worse that he actually had the nerve to mention his fantasies about your friends to you! That's crazy!

If you know he's jerking you around, I don't know whether to be more disappointed in him for doing so OR in you for actually knowing this & yet allowing him to!

A man that isn't into you will def. allow you to keep stroking his ego even if he can't see himself with you long term. He knows you're feeling him & he's probably liking the ego boost that you're giving him.

He's probably in shock that you continue to like him so much even though he's only giving you the MINIMUM!

He may be interested in you now but he won't be for long if he gets the sense that you'll accept the minimum from him. If you don't give him the incentive to work for you, earn you & prove himself, he'll never consider you a challenge

And if he doesn't consider you a challenge...nuff said...I think you know the rest

Whoop there it is...

+1

Posted by tiki33

Posted by krysrenee7
Whoa, if he's contemplating in his own head dating/hooking up with any of your friends, hell no he's not interested in you past friendship, if that.

It's even worse that he actually had the nerve to mention his fantasies about your friends to you! That's crazy!

If you know he's jerking you around, I don't know whether to be more disappointed in him for doing so OR in you for actually knowing this & yet allowing him to!

A man that isn't into you will def. allow you to keep stroking his ego even if he can't see himself with you long term. He knows you're feeling him & he's probably liking the ego boost that you're giving him.

He's probably in shock that you continue to like him so much even though he's only giving you the MINIMUM!

He may be interested in you now but he won't be for long if he gets the sense that you'll accept the minimum from him. If you don't give him the incentive to work for you, earn you & prove himself, he'll never consider you a challenge

And if he doesn't consider you a challenge...nuff said...I think you know the rest

Whoop there it is...

+1

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yesss... this si very true, i understand... and i agree.... i guess right now... it doesnt feel like its gotten to that point yet... its still pretty balanced ...... maybe not in the wya i described it tho from what ive written...

before i let it slide becuase i thought it was jsut playful when hed tell me not to tlak to him again... but now i am starting to tell him, its not cool... and then we discuss what i said to piss him off... an di explain my mide... and we are cool again...

that was recently... so now i shall see if he says it again... if he does... then yes thats bullshit!

wow my typing is all over the place today, sorry :S

This is a no brainer....when you are not being easy and being more of a CHALLENGE you peek his interest, only when you aren't a challenge he mistreats you, blows up etc.

None of his behavior says I want you beyond friendship and curiosity, there is nothing indicating that he wants anything with you outside of alleviating his boredom and keeping his #1 fan in his life so of course he'll throw you a bone by showing interest and curiosity especially when you present a challenge in front of him such as you dating another man, the guy that could potentially take his ego stroke away.

Clearly you didn't have a date, least not one you were interested in b/c you spent 10 minutes talking to him which confirmed he's MORE IMPORTANT than anyone else so the predictable outcome was him feeling secure and self assured he's still #1 and ended the interaction.

Ugh the games we women play with men and vice versa

Posted by tiki33
This is a no brainer....when you are not being easy and being more of a CHALLENGE you peek his interest, only when you aren't a challenge he mistreats you, blows up etc.

None of his behavior says I want you beyond friendship and curiosity, there is nothing indicating that he wants anything with you outside of alleviating his boredom and keeping his #1 fan in his life so of course he'll throw you a bone by showing interest and curiosity especially when you present a challenge in front of him such as you dating another man, the guy that could potentially take his ego stroke away.

Clearly you didn't have a date, least not one you were interested in b/c you spent 10 minutes talking to him which confirmed he's MORE IMPORTANT than anyone else so the predictable outcome was him feeling secure and self assured he's still #1 and ended the interaction.

Ugh the games we women play with men and vice versa

awww 😢 i feel silly now

I do realize that not much of what is said will make a difference...It will only make a difference when you recognize and realize when a man just isn't that into you, until then you'll continue on with analyzing etc.

and analyzing sucks....i'm kicking myself for all the analyzing I'm doing :S

If you enjoy the game playing LiL and VB gives you the courage to keep going then by all means keep going, you don't have to listen to us LOL....

EXACTLY. No wonder we as women are clinical, no wonder we make THEM clinical. If he says "I'd like salad tonight" we bust down every lettuce leaf ever grown and wonder what combinations thereof would be most pleasing. Squint and wonder what direct degree of the sun hit each tender leaf and how it affects our every waking moment. GUH! Shit, every nuance of every random armpit scratch, ass cheek dig and booger picked does not need to be gleaned over. Sometimes shit is just what it is.

Nor does everything have to mean a big finger out in ones general direction. FFS, that's ridiculous. Worst case? He's a friend. And ain't nothing wrong with having a friend. If there's more to it, there is. If there ain't, there ain't.

Posted by venusianbull


He'll continue on making her a schizo with cryptic messages, and she'll keep wondering what the frack is doodling around in his brain. And ya know what? Neither will say shit if they have a mouth full. Unless one of them gets pissed off. But even THAT is better than stalemate. All the wanting in the world don't get shit unless someone says "Boo!" Sitting around sighing and drawing his name on the fogged glass gets zippedy doo da. Now either this guy is feeling HER or NOT, but oh buddy is there a way to find out. Open that God-given gash under your nose and ASK. May not be the answer you want, might be everything you need, but at least you'll KNOW.

but be very specific, otherwise he might just say you are "special" and that the will "keep in touch"🙂

Posted by venusianbull
EXACTLY. No wonder we as women are clinical, no wonder we make THEM clinical. If he says "I'd like salad tonight" we bust down every lettuce leaf ever grown and wonder what combinations thereof would be most pleasing. Squint and wonder what direct degree of the sun hit each tender leaf and how it affects our every waking moment. GUH! Shit, every nuance of every random armpit scratch, ass cheek dig and booger picked does not need to be gleaned over. Sometimes shit is just what it is.

LMAO!! Sorry not making fun but this is really funny

It's supposed to be tiki. 😉

Posted by ReallyNiceAriesPerson

Posted by venusianbull


He'll continue on making her a schizo with cryptic messages, and she'll keep wondering what the frack is doodling around in his brain. And ya know what? Neither will say shit if they have a mouth full. Unless one of them gets pissed off. But even THAT is better than stalemate. All the wanting in the world don't get shit unless someone says "Boo!" Sitting around sighing and drawing his name on the fogged glass gets zippedy doo da. Now either this guy is feeling HER or NOT, but oh buddy is there a way to find out. Open that God-given gash under your nose and ASK. May not be the answer you want, might be everything you need, but at least you'll KNOW.

but be very specific, otherwise he might just say you are "special" and that the will "keep in touch"🙂

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LMAO You ROCK woman, and if he can't see that, screw him! 😄

Oh, screwing him is absolutely part of the plan!!

Last we spoke I told him he needed to be on the lookout for a great guy for me so he asked "what do you want?" so I gave him a little list and he said "you have found him"

Tricky little bu'
I am pretty sure if he loved me he would tell me...ok - having a brainwave - I think I am asking the Bull the wrong questions. Will tackle situation from different angle.

Y'all are funny creatures, big and strong and the horns and everything, but tickle your tummy or rub you under the neck in just the right place you are just big ole love bugs.

Posted by ReallyNiceAriesPerson


Y'all are funny creatures, big and strong and the horns and everything, but tickle your tummy or rub you under the neck in just the right place you are just big ole love bugs.

HEY....... You shush now!!!!!!!....



Keep that to yourself.... 😛

😉

Posted by ReallyNiceAriesPerson
Oh, screwing him is absolutely part of the plan!!

Last we spoke I told him he needed to be on the lookout for a great guy for me so he asked "what do you want?" so I gave him a little list and he said "you have found him"

Tricky little bu'
I am pretty sure if he loved me he would tell me...ok - having a brainwave - I think I am asking the Bull the wrong questions. Will tackle situation from different angle.

Y'all are funny creatures, big and strong and the horns and everything, but tickle your tummy or rub you under the neck in just the right place you are just big ole love bugs.

Keep that on the DL, wouldja? I have an IMAGE to uphold here. *kissing own shoulder before I dust off my raspberry tank top*

As someone very wise just told me...power play lil'. Power play.

Bulls are mean
Bulls are scary
and if they don't shave each day
they can get quite hairy

some bulls have horns
and some bulls are polled
and though they might look tough
they all have hearts of gold

You have a Wise Person who does housecalls at 12:30 at night VB—?

I do. He blows me shit right regular and keeps me sane, makes me think. He thinks I'm all manner of things silly, womanly and soft in the head. I find him bold, take charge and kind. I never worry about speaking my mind, nor does he. I could tell him I'm running through the house starkers with a teapot on my head and I'd get back "Right". Oh sure he comes and goes like the wind..I never really see him. But I can feel him all around. I am proud he is my friend. I hope he's proud of me.
Best part? I got him for 3 box tops off of corn flakes boxes. What an insane amount of cereal..but I trotted out to the mailbox good as gold every day. 😄

🙂 Thank you Bling. I like the skeptical lad to the right. I'll also admit it when I'm wrong. 😉