What's behind Taurus man's manipulative streak?

Need some help here, I've recently broke up with a Taurus man a month ago although the break up was so sudden that one day we didn't talk anymore and that was it. He had trouble in the family and I didn't bother to contact him thinking it's what's best for us both as I also have some issues with my career. It was just too much for me at that time really. However the whole 8month relationship was a roller-coaster ride, extreme highs and lows which kind of excited me in a way (I'm a Scorpio sun, Libra Venus, and Moon in Aquarius).

I moved on fairly quick, out of sight, out of mind I guess. Then one day I received a friend request on facebook and it was him, though it was a new account and all te photos he had in there were the things significant to us when we were still together. He event went so far as making the rose stencil of my tattoo (which was the first one I got while I was with him) as his cover photo. He then messaged me saying that hi missed me and that he was sorry for everything but then says that he knows im happy and doesnt want to mess things up for me again. Then he goes on saying he'll have my rose tattooed in hin as well and asks if he can see me.

We had rough times while we were together (involved his ex wife who's much older than him) and I'm at a loss, should I give it another shot or is this another one classic Taurus manipulations (seeing as I actually got my sh!t together and maybe he doesnt want that?) hes taurus sun, venus in taurus and moon in leo.

@clooneyears can you tell me more about how fine his placements are in relation to mine? Cheers!


He also had the classic "disappearing act" while we were still together so the pseudo breakup thing didnt really surprise me that much and I just moved on.

Posted by clooneyyears
what fine placements this gentleman has!

can you tell me more about how fine his placements are in relation to mine? Cheers!

He also had the classic "disappearing act" while we were still together so the pseudo breakup thing didnt really surprise me that much and I just moved on.

Posted by clooneyyears
hmm... well you're pretty fixed yourself.

your suns oppose.

your moons oppose.

libra venus is inconjunct with taurus venus but IME i get along fine with them. it's just that libra venuses tend to be too giving and taurus venuses are classic takers.

Thanks! Glad you pointed that out, I always thought I was always his to take but never quite got what I expected in return. And that for the most part was what left me drained TBH. My last ex was an Aries sun with a venus in Taurus as well. I'm seeing a trend here. Though this bull was more taking than the Ram with his venus in taurus as well.

Posted by clooneyyears
well when i dated libra venuses they never spoke up about anything.

I guess that's classic libra avoiding arguments or confrontation? Anyway yes my rising sign is cappy and his is at pisces.

I was more assertive though and he didnt like it. I would call him out on being selfish tho but like a bull, he wont budge lol. Tho he admitted that i bruise his ego too badly and says i have a way with words that make him feel incompetent. You know how scorps get with their temper and words. Cuts right through the bone. I feel too much guilt afterwards tho and do anything and everything to take it back but yeah it was always too late.

Posted by INTJBull
So you broke up with him because he was having family problems that you didn't want to deal with & you moved on quickly, he contacted you to say Hi & you think he's being manipulative by contacting you & you want to know if you should give it a shot?

No.

Not so much as breaking up with him if he was the one who disappeared right? There's a big difference. Always pulling that one can get on one's nerves. Now not to say I moved on fairly quick, forgive my lack of specificity, because TBH I was still AT THE PROCESS OF MOVING ON.
He pulled of disappearing acts quite often but would always come around however the last one was different and I decided to let it be rather than wait for him any longer (which I always did). I just cant seem to decipher if his intentions were genuine (being a scorpio has always made me very very wary of people's true intentions.)

Thanks for your 2 cents anyway, mate.

Posted by clooneyyears
well when i dated libra venuses they never spoke up about anything.

I was guilty of that in the beginning with my Taurus. :p

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Posted by INTJBull
So you broke up with him because he was having family problems that you didn't want to deal with & you moved on quickly, he contacted you to say Hi & you think he's being manipulative by contacting you & you want to know if you should give it a shot?

No.

this.

you are a bit cold, my dear.

I don't think he's the problem here.

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Agree!

I have the same sun and Venus as OP and my taurus says I came across as a bit cold in the beginning.

Taurus often gets accused of playing hot/cold

IME apparently it was me doing that at the start.

OP maybe you aren't aware of how you can come across to him because I know I wasn't. He had to tell me and I needed to reflect on that.

This one is pretty straightforward IMO. You moved on, as you say - out of sight, out of mind. You don't seem to have very deep feelings for this guy. If this guy was really "the one", and you were really all that crazy about him, after 8 mos. it shouldn't be *that* easy to move on. That's still the infatuation phase of a relationship and the chemistry should be really strong. You make it sound like you were fine until he contacted you again. Just seems like you'd be settling if you take him back. You coming on here and asking a bunch of random strangers if you should take him back or not, is like you are shrugging, and rolling a pair of dice. If you are that nonchalant about the matter of whether or not to be with this guy, if you can walk away that easily to focus on your career, then this relationship is probably just a waste of your time - a placeholder. Find someone you're really passionate about.

Posted by Eris
OP maybe you aren't aware of how you can come across to him because I know I wasn't. He had to tell me and I needed to reflect on that.

Thanka mate, we talked last night, I was a bit suprised for him to call since lately we've only been messaging. We talked about what happened and like what the other bulls who are kind enough to shed light on this predicament have said, he only needed time to breathe again for a while, but after sensing that I no longer reached out for him, he kind of felt too proud to reach back to me. He admitted he tried several times but would always back out at the last minute. However it took toll and eventually he couldnt stay far and decided to just give it a shot, see if I still care about him to make things work again (which I did).

Honestly, i reflected on what some bulls here have said and yes i think i came off too cold however it was rather at the near end of the relationship (does this have to do with my aqua moon?).

I love and truly care for this taurus man of mine dearly, i just couldnt take the constant disappearing acts, drives me crazy. But i love him nonetheless. You bulls are too magnetic for scorps like me.
Appreciate all your insights mate!

Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio
This one is pretty straightforward IMO. You moved on, as you say - out of sight, out of mind. You don't seem to have very deep feelings for this guy. If this guy was really "the one", and you were really all that crazy about him, after 8 mos. it shouldn't be *that* easy to move on. That's still the infatuation phase of a relationship and the chemistry should be really strong. You make it sound like you were fine until he contacted you again. Just seems like you'd be settling if you take him back. You coming on here and asking a bunch of random strangers if you should take him back or not, is like you are shrugging, and rolling a pair of dice. If you are that nonchalant about the matter of whether or not to be with this guy, if you can walk away that easily to focus on your career, then this relationship is probably just a waste of your time - a placeholder. Find someone you're really passionate about.

I appreciate this insight mate. However just to be clear, I truly care and love this man dearly. He's one of those "lost" souls who claimed he found it when he and I met. The first few months were heaven but then, the ex started getting in the picture. I remained calm with this issue at hand, considering he had 2 kids with her and that part I understood entirely. We talked about the 2 kids and raising them as my own which I am all for. But of course the ex wasnt too happy about that and that's when shit started hitting the fan. This was the family problem i was talkin about mate. this ex is a total nightmare for us both, she started threatening him about custody which always broke him (he loves the kids dearly and is an amazing provider and very affectionate to them, another thing i loved and admired about him as well). Even if he wont tell me, i feel he patched things up with the ex and had an arrangement with the kids so he "needed" to pull back from me. But yes like y'all said, he never saw it ending for us.

Posted by INTJBull
Another thing I have experienced with my Scorpio ex is that they may take Taurus as pushovers because we tend to be passive...... for awhile. We have a great amount of patience for putting up with shit, again for too long.

This is very true mate. I told him he was being a push over to his ex, so the ex always had the chance to unnerve him and she was beginning to get on my bad side. However he told me he'd handle it but he just seemed to be a pushover all the more. Thats the time i lashed on him with scorpion words that bruised his ego. I smelled weakness and called him out for it (when truly now that i think about it, he was just being ever so patient with the crazy ex).

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Posted by INTJBull
Another thing I have experienced with my Scorpio ex is that they may take Taurus as pushovers because we tend to be passive...... for awhile. We have a great amount of patience for putting up with shit, again for too long.

This is very true mate. I told him he was being a push over to his ex, so the ex always had the chance to unnerve him and she was beginning to get on my bad side. However he told me he'd handle it but he just seemed to be a pushover all the more. Thats the time i lashed on him with scorpion words that bruised his ego. I smelled weakness and called him out for it (when truly now that i think about it, he was just being ever so patient with the crazy ex).

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Maybe you're more expressive to him, but based on what you posted previously, it sounded like you got over him very quickly and were not very attached.

Anyway, I have the same situation with an ex. To keep the peace with an ex, for the sake of your children, is a GREAT strength, not a weakness. The majority of people don't understand that, and are too weak to do that though.

He was keeping the peace, and i admire this dearly now that i come to think of it, even if the ex was really a handful, too much of a bully to him and his family.

Im concerned about the same things happening all over again, but for this bull, i think im willing to take risks yet again. This is my first time falling in love with a taurus man and he drives me crazy omg. Thanks mate!

Posted by IntenselyScorpio
He was keeping the peace, and i admire this dearly now that i come to think of it, even if the ex was really a handful, too much of a bully to him and his family.

Im concerned about the same things happening all over again, but for this bull, i think im willing to take risks yet again. This is my first time falling in love with a taurus man and he drives me crazy omg. Thanks mate!

My SO tries to get in there and control my interaction with my ex, often judges the situation, accuses me of considering my ex's feelings over her's, etc. Huge annoyance. I would prefer she would just let me handle it, and stay completely out of it. I guarantee you your bull knows his ex inside and out, and is just doing the best he can to do what is best for the kids and keep the ex from making emotional or vindictive moves. That comes naturally to me when the kids are at stake. This is an area where I never let my pride get in the way. I see so many men making foolish decisions here, losing custody, losing time, etc.

Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio

Posted by IntenselyScorpio
He was keeping the peace, and i admire this dearly now that i come to think of it, even if the ex was really a handful, too much of a bully to him and his family.

Im concerned about the same things happening all over again, but for this bull, i think im willing to take risks yet again. This is my first time falling in love with a taurus man and he drives me crazy omg. Thanks mate!

My SO tries to get in there and control my interaction with my ex, often judges the situation, accuses me of considering my ex's feelings over her's, etc. Huge annoyance. I would prefer she would just let me handle it, and stay completely out of it. I guarantee you your bull knows his ex inside and out, and is just doing the best he can to do what is best for the kids and keep the ex from making emotional or vindictive moves. That comes naturally to me when the kids are at stake. This is an area where I never let my pride get in the way. I see so many men making foolish decisions here, losing custody, losing time, etc.

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Thanks mate, that really shed a lot of light on his actions towards her. Patience is not a virtuee Scorps are known for but with that said, I'll do my best.