Difficult women

it just occured to me as i was reading yahoo news...

that some men really like difficult women.

Look at Amber Heard/Johnny Depp. The paparazzi likes to follow them around, and point out how much they're gonna break up and this and that. And they're cuddling after the fight.

Depp, who lived with his ex for many years, didn't marry her and yet marries this one so fast?

she obviously sounds difficult. lol

i mean why?? what's the point? don't men want an easy going chick?

it's like this song:

you're gonna pay, in either $ $ or your sanity.

Posted by starlover
Quite a lot of men like feisty women...they find them sexy, one guy i was with an Aqua told me he liked the *struggle* with women

My ex Virgo tells me that most of the women he dated bored him, not challenging enough

My ex Aries seemed to like that i was up for a challenge physically lol and mentally with him

with your wild woman avatar, which represents you, star, i don't doubt you challenged him physically and mentally.

the guys in this band were thinking of you, star. 😄

jimi hendrix's version is better. lol 😄 he sounded like he was high doing it.

Posted by Rabbit
What exactly is "difficult" though?

Is it more difficult to deal with say...a nagging women versus a cheating skank of a woman?

those are very difficult women too.

i suppose there are plenty of lists/definitions of it.

i dont see the point of wanting a difficult woman who is say....high maintainance? why?

wouldn't a man rather enjoy a relaxing woman? who can ease his mind and body and soul?

for example, askmen.com (yes i know i know) but it is still a site for men.

http://www.askmen.com/dating/dating_advice/difficult-women.html<BR>
Quote from site:"
"You can be attracted to the bitch because she expresses the anger you can't, won't or don't allow yourself to express -- which often means you're 'a nice guy.'



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script writer, relationship expert and matchmaker on NBC's new TV show Ready for Love, which airs Tuesdays, says your history of dating "difficult women" says more about you than it does about them. Here's a piece she wrote for AskMen about the subject.

God knows there are difficult women out there. Women who are — at times — shallow, bitchy, selfish, dishonest and, of course, crazy. But what I'm here to say is this: Your problem is not that these women exist; your problem is that you??re trying to date them.

Wait. I hear you protesting. You are right now saying to your computer screen: That's the surprising secret about difficult women? But, but, but??_ all women are like that!

Actually, things are more complex than that. Because, while it may be true that every woman has her something, we don't all have the same something. Right? So, why, if you??re like most guys, do you find yourself dealing with one or two of the same somethings over and over again? Even when you specifically go looking for someone completely different from the last chick who caused you so much grief, how is it that, lo and behold, here you are, one year later, putting a new password on your phone, again?

I??ll tell you how."

there are archetypes:

"Because it's not that bitches is crazy. It's that you got a thing for bitches??_ who is crazy. This is also known as having a —type.?? But where we generally think of having a type as, say, liking redheads or being an —ass man,?? what most people really have is an energetic type. Someone who acts (and reacts) in ways that we mostly enjoy, until we realize that what we??re attracted to is just the exterior, hiding the other quality which, it turns out, bugs the sh*t out of us. And the deal is this — that other quality? It matches something inside you. So let's look at some common archetypes and what they might correspond to in yourself.


The Bitch
What makes her attractive: She's a go-getter. She's sassy. She's a challenge. And, often, she makes money. What's underneath that: The bitch is all about anger. Often, she's been hurt out there in the world and she's developed a tough exterior — and sometimes interior — to protect herself. What dating her says about you: There are two ways this can go. You can be attracted to the bitch because she expresses the anger you can't, won't or don't allow yourself to express — which often means you're —a nice guy.?? Or she just reflects (and usually amplifies) your own anger back to you. If you??re the kind of guy who??s known for knock-down drag-outs with his girlfriends, or maybe gets into a bar fight every once in a while, this is definitely you."

Posted by Rabbit
Life isn't all relaxing though....if all you get is high maintenance, then yeah that's difficult.

But what if that high maintenance came with high reward?

like what?

Posted by starlover
Yeah! Love Hendrix...Foxy Lady is golden 😛


They all seemed to love the challenge


Lol

btw, even Jimi hendrix sang, "hey joe." lol 😆

you know what happened there.

Usually rooted in misogyny or some deranged perspective of women. Most men are weak and give into status quo ideals of what a woman is to be.

In many ways, high maintenance women are what men are taught is ideal. When in reality, there is no difference in the "worth" or experience between the two sets of women. The only difference is that a weak man will mistake a high maintenance women's bravada for strength and a easy going women's quiteness for weakness.


Weak men go for seemingly strong things.

Posted by Infinite8

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by Rabbit
Life isn't all relaxing though....if all you get is high maintenance, then yeah that's difficult.

But what if that high maintenance came with high reward?

like what?

Intense emotions and behavior can be used negatively and positively. The positives are addicting. Once addicted to the positives... They are not understanding of the negatives.

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i guess it's hard to define for most. despite what articles say. most difficult women are nagging and cruel, and will shame their man in public. So alot of times, men are probably attracted to that bitch but then realize there's something he missed.

that's the sad part. The part you mentioned where the emotions stay intense and high, is not common. This sounds very very rare because there are other "difficult" types of women that will destroy their soul/psyche, like some of what the article implies.

Posted by FrostAndBite
How do we know anything really about their relationship? From paparazzi who purposefully antagonize, berate and degrade celebrities in order to provoke violent reactions? from an entertainment news outlet, where they don't even verify sources but merely use conjecture?
Sources aside, and to the larger point, what does anyone ever know about the relationships of other people? Merely what they allow us to see, and even then we typically are receiving at most 50% (one persons view) of it.
Add to it, we experience different facets of our personality with people. It's how some people can be chill around one person, feisty around another, on edge with someone else or batshit crazy with someone different. That alone can create endless dynamics, which again, we never get the full picture of.
And even after that, if for some reason I bought into the whole 'high maintenance' thing, who is to say a man is wrong for wanting that? Maybe he loves the fight. Maybe he sees it as a badge of honor, to be able to be chosen or provide for a picky partner. Maybe he is high maintenance himself in certain ways and they share an understanding.
For sale of advisement, real life example. A friend of mine dated the same girl on/off for four years. I never liked her. She'd tell and berate him in public, constantly pick fights, never seemed to pay attention to anything but herself. Textbook high maintenance. When I had to hang out with her while my SO and the friend were off doing a guys night, she was mind numbing to be around. My SO and I were beyond happy when they finally broke up. Almost a year later she came up in conversation and the friend told us about how he mistreated her a lot and how that spurred her behavior. Those years of her acting out we were only seeing half the story(really less.)
We saw our friend through more rose colored glasses because well he is our friend. His poor relationship behaviors weren't obvious, they were often behind the closed doors of the relationship.
I'm also of the personal opinion that we are all crazy in some way. And finding love that lasts is just about finding someone who's crazy is compatible with our own lol.

that's the kind of woman we witnessed years ago, who was nagging to her husband (now ex) and putting him down, and how bad of a father he is and a low down stupid husband he is, ect. yelling it in public so th

was cut off.

and putting him down, and how bad of a father he is and a low down stupid husband he is, ect. yelling it in public so that neighbors could hear. Yeah they're divorced years ago, and she's still alone.

she's high career, great job, and super stressed all the time. She seems very nice to her neighbors though, what our relatives say, but to her family she's terrible.

well, she's definitely difficult. but shes just an example, like your example, frostandbite, of the girl your friend dated and suffered through.

that's why i mentioned, i dont think it's worth it. But, it's a difficult one to define since there are so many types.

Posted by Magenta_Azure
Usually rooted in misogyny or some deranged perspective of women. Most men are weak and give into status quo ideals of what a woman is to be.

In many ways, high maintenance women are what men are taught is ideal. When in reality, there is no difference in the "worth" or experience between the two sets of women. The only difference is that a weak man will mistake a high maintenance women's bravada for strength and a easy going women's quiteness for weakness.


Weak men go for seemingly strong things.

i don't think so, that men are "taught" this. Lots of men are taught to find a good woman and a pleasant one that will take care of him.

but i do think they learn by seeing their mothers and grandmothers, aunts and maybe the women they are influenced by when they are young. Yet, not all of them choose the type of woman their mothers were, or their aunts, grandmothers were.

i guess it all goes down to astrology. your moon - mother, and adding more, the pluto 4th is a great indicator of issues in the family, but it can be extreme: really good or really bad.

oh ok. i understand, most definitely!

Why do women complicate shit?

Posted by 4ND5

i was thinking of Paz Huerta, when the topic came up earlier....

she's cray cray type. so she'd be in the HOT and CRAZY scale.

what types of women do you feel are the cray cray and hot scale??

Posted by 4ND5
i don't think paz is that cray so she is within my tolerance level. i think she would be a very giving partner actually.

amanda bynes goes overboard for me.

i dont know her stuff though, is she cray cray and does drugs and is promiscuis?

i read on Wikipedia she was dating Seth McFarlane, Double Scorpio.

she looks like Jennifer Lawrence:

i think too that Courtney Love is cray cray and hot scale:

didn't she lose the little piece of her mind after kurt kobain killed himself

she does look like Jennifer Lawrence. Even Jennifer Lawrence had that nude break out selfie that ran around last year.

hey what's going on with the skies? alot of cardinal unrest. I dont like the air moon today, its squaring the mars.

Why are you so obsessed with celebrity lives and use them as every day examples?

Posted by rockyroadicecream
Why are you so obsessed with celebrity lives and use them as every day examples?

what is wrong with you—?

you already know i enjoy it, so why don't you block me.

if anything you follow me around.

and you obviously enjoy reading my topics, rocky or else you wouldn' t be in here posting.

Maybe men just like women who won't put up with their

childish bullshit.

Ultimately, it will make them a better person, anyway.