
Gooober
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Posted by BonesMaloneI beat ya to it 😄Posted by Magenta_AzureI feel your pain! Who's nuts you want me to rip off & hang from your rearview mirror?
Men lie a lot. Most of the time for no reason. Couple that with the constant pressure on women to be loving and open and kind and forgiving and you have the disaster that is abusive relationships and shitty men.
You know its really funny, people-- well, men, like to say that women are crazy and weird after you have sex with them but more times than not it is the man that suddenly changes and becomes distant and treats the woman like shit when she gives herself to him. Men lie, calculate , plot, and plan to use a woman only to suddenly leave her as though she never existed. Stringing her along to feel comfortable with him until he's gotten her to a place that allows him to destroy her. And the only reason he gets away with it is because he knows that everyone will take his side.
To answer the question simply: I agree 100% .click to expand

Posted by channingtatumsneckYeah, sometimes they do but if the guy is an absolute charmer before you sleep with him, that's a red flag. If he's not showing any ''flaws'', red flag. Nothing new. This is why you give it some time before you sleep with someone, see what kinda guy he is....
guys change after sex.

Posted by WeedsI'd just leave it at they brush it off a lot.
Some women are naive and brush off alot of shit.
I think the whole "im not going to judge"
causes people to be stupid.

Posted by LittleStar
I think it depends on a woman's situation. The are taught how to be treated and then they either accept it or learn otherwise. If she's had a good example, she's more likely to know when she sees an asshole.

Posted by Magenta_AzureBut that's the thing. That should be the ultimate red flag. If a guy seems too good to be true, it's obvious he's putting on a show to seduce you. I mean, this is really nothing new.
Men lie a lot. Most of the time for no reason. Couple that with the constant pressure on women to be loving and open and kind and forgiving and you have the disaster that is abusive relationships and shitty men.
You know its really funny, people-- well, men, like to say that women are crazy and weird after you have sex with them but more times than not it is the man that suddenly changes and becomes distant and treats the woman like shit when she gives herself to him. Men lie, calculate , plot, and plan to use a woman only to suddenly leave her as though she never existed. Stringing her along to feel comfortable with him until he's gotten her to a place that allows him to destroy her. And the only reason he gets away with it is because he knows that everyone will take his side.
To answer the question simply: I agree 100% .

Posted by WeedsI think it's an excuse to accept unacceptable behavior.
Some women are naive and brush off alot of shit.
I think the whole "im not going to judge"
causes people to be stupid.

Posted by tizianiIt's always something new with you, lol.Posted by GoooberFreud and Jung's lifetime of work up in flames, right here.Posted by LittleStar
I think it depends on a woman's situation. The are taught how to be treated and then they either accept it or learn otherwise. If she's had a good example, she's more likely to know when she sees an asshole.
Don't you think if they didn't have a good example, that they'd look for the complete opposite?click to expand

Posted by Montgomery*claps*Posted by WeedsI think it's an excuse to accept unacceptable behavior.
Some women are naive and brush off alot of shit.
I think the whole "im not going to judge"
causes people to be stupid.
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Posted by MontgomeryO_OPosted by WeedsI think it's an excuse to accept unacceptable behavior.
Some women are naive and brush off alot of shit.
I think the whole "im not going to judge"
causes people to be stupid.
🙂click to expand

Posted by BonesMaloneHow was this guy when you first met him?
I totally disagree! This fellow Scorpio dude went ape shit on me for not sending him a pic of myself. I thought I blocked his # but he text this morning so I asked if he had ever hit a woman & his reply was yes after she cut me with a knife. He apologized for getting upset & said he felt horrible. I said no worries & blocked dat ass! That's how ppl end up in abusive situations.
If he'll beat your ass later on down the road you can tell. If he only wants sex you can tell. If he's cheating you can tell. If he's lying you can tell. All you have to do is open your eyes. One or two crafty motherfuckers might slip through the cracks but most times the devil is right there in plain sight. Stay woke ladies...

Posted by Kodak375Ahhhh ok. Thanks!Posted by Goooberyou dont know Freud or JUNG?!?! OMG.... no..... Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung Revolutionized psychology and make it a commonplace in western societyPosted by tizianiIt's always something new with you, lol.Posted by GoooberFreud and Jung's lifetime of work up in flames, right here.Posted by LittleStar
I think it depends on a woman's situation. The are taught how to be treated and then they either accept it or learn otherwise. If she's had a good example, she's more likely to know when she sees an asshole.
Don't you think if they didn't have a good example, that they'd look for the complete opposite?
Who is this Freud and Jung and what are they about?click to expand

Posted by tizianiWow. I can't see someone who had a traumatic childhood wanting that in their adult relationships. I mean, of course, unless of mental illness but not for the majority I don't think.Posted by GoooberThey were the guys who told us we also seek out the example of our childhood in our adult relationships.Posted by tizianiIt's always something new with you, lol.Posted by GoooberFreud and Jung's lifetime of work up in flames, right here.Posted by LittleStar
I think it depends on a woman's situation. The are taught how to be treated and then they either accept it or learn otherwise. If she's had a good example, she's more likely to know when she sees an asshole.
Don't you think if they didn't have a good example, that they'd look for the complete opposite?
Who is this Freud and Jung and what are they about?click to expand

Posted by tizianiYeah, I have, but I don't think that's due to what you think it is which kinda puts me back on topic. Women tend to be the ones in violent relationships right? ''Bad boys'' are just more appealing to many women for many reasons. Many women tend to admit that they're attracted to ''bad boys''. Something else I have observed is that desperate women tend to find themselves in violent relationships too. Why? Because they're so desperate that their standards become much much lower so they'll settle for basically anything. There are many other factors that also play a part in their decision making also.Posted by GoooberIt's subconscious. It's not like people outright seek a carbon-copy of the actions they see in childhood. Most of our formative years, we don't know what to want. But our subconscious leads us there.Posted by tizianiWow. I can't see someone who had a traumatic childhood wanting that in their adult relationships. I mean, of course, unless of mental illness but not for the majority I don't think.Posted by GoooberThey were the guys who told us we also seek out the example of our childhood in our adult relationships.Posted by tizianiIt's always something new with you, lol.Posted by GoooberFreud and Jung's lifetime of work up in flames, right here.Posted by LittleStar
I think it depends on a woman's situation. The are taught how to be treated and then they either accept it or learn otherwise. If she's had a good example, she's more likely to know when she sees an asshole.
Don't you think if they didn't have a good example, that they'd look for the complete opposite?
Who is this Freud and Jung and what are they about?
You've never heard of children who come from a household of domestic violence being far more likely to then end up in a violent relationship themselves?click to expand

Posted by centipedesYeah, that's clearly a red flag. When they seem too good to be true, red flag. I mean, this is nothing new. But the thing with jerks is that, they always show signs that tend to go ignored by many women :/
People are often on their best behavior when they first meet. They'll be much more polite, accommodating when it comes to every little detail, and very careful to not step on each others' toes. Even the tone of voices tends to be different.
No matter how "real" one fancies themselves, this will likely be the case. If a decent and real person actually subconsciously feels the need to adjust their behavior, imagine how necessary an actual jerk would think it'd be to present a charming facade.

Posted by channingtatumsneckYes but so do women,,,, some turn into stage 20 clingers! I think we have seen enough threads on DXP to support that!
guys change after sex.

Posted by Impulsv2... years... -_-
I could tell immediately if man is a player . Sure enough it come out in the little details it also helps men tend to get comfortable with me and discloseTMI. But study I read says it takes two years for the true colors to really show in people as they get comfortable. So I agree a façade can be kept up to a certain point, time is in our favor

Posted by justagirlAre you on tumblr? I have a feeling I ''know'' you from somewhere....Posted by channingtatumsneckYes but so do women,,,, some turn into stage 20 clingers! I think we have seen enough threads on DXP to support that!
guys change after sex.
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Posted by Gooobernope but perhaps you have sseen me running from batman... i do like a good chase 😉Posted by justagirlAre you on tumblr? I have a feeling I ''know'' you from somewhere....Posted by channingtatumsneckYes but so do women,,,, some turn into stage 20 clingers! I think we have seen enough threads on DXP to support that!
guys change after sex.
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Posted by justagirlI refuse to accept this! I know that I know you 😭Posted by Gooobernope but perhaps you have sseen me running from batman... i do like a good chase 😉Posted by justagirlAre you on tumblr? I have a feeling I ''know'' you from somewhere....Posted by channingtatumsneckYes but so do women,,,, some turn into stage 20 clingers! I think we have seen enough threads on DXP to support that!
guys change after sex.
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Posted by GoooberWhat i think he is trying to say and please correct me if i am wrong, tiziani. This is something that just happens. Women/men aren't even aware that thay seek out that negative behavior until after they are already emmeshed within it or sometimes not even then. Gotta break that cycle!Posted by tizianiYeah, I have, but I don't think that's due to what you think it is which kinda puts me back on topic. Women tend to be the ones in violent relationships right? ''Bad boys'' are just more appealing to many women for many reasons. Many women tend to admit that they're attracted to ''bad boys''. Something else I have observed is that desperate women tend to find themselves in violent relationships too. Why? Because they're so desperate that their standards become much much lower so they'll settle for basically anything. There are many other factors that also play a part in their decision making also.Posted by GoooberIt's subconscious. It's not like people outright seek a carbon-copy of the actions they see in childhood. Most of our formative years, we don't know what to want. But our subconscious leads us there.Posted by tizianiWow. I can't see someone who had a traumatic childhood wanting that in their adult relationships. I mean, of course, unless of mental illness but not for the majority I don't think.Posted by GoooberThey were the guys who told us we also seek out the example of our childhood in our adult relationships.Posted by tizianiIt's always something new with you, lol.Posted by GoooberFreud and Jung's lifetime of work up in flames, right here.Posted by LittleStar
I think it depends on a woman's situation. The are taught how to be treated and then they either accept it or learn otherwise. If she's had a good example, she's more likely to know when she sees an asshole.
Don't you think if they didn't have a good example, that they'd look for the complete opposite?
Who is this Freud and Jung and what are they about?
You've never heard of children who come from a household of domestic violence being far more likely to then end up in a violent relationship themselves?click to expand

Posted by GoooberI am on facebook, seldom on instagram and not much else. sorry i can't help.Posted by justagirlI refuse to accept this! I know that I know you 😭Posted by Gooobernope but perhaps you have sseen me running from batman... i do like a good chase 😉Posted by justagirlAre you on tumblr? I have a feeling I ''know'' you from somewhere....Posted by channingtatumsneckYes but so do women,,,, some turn into stage 20 clingers! I think we have seen enough threads on DXP to support that!
guys change after sex.
😆
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Posted by tizianidon't shun the dark side. it's calling you.... 😛Posted by justagirlMoon conjunct Moon. You both partake in evil.Posted by GoooberI am on facebook, seldom on instagram and not much else. sorry i can't help.Posted by justagirlI refuse to accept this! I know that I know you 😭Posted by Gooobernope but perhaps you have sseen me running from batman... i do like a good chase 😉Posted by justagirlAre you on tumblr? I have a feeling I ''know'' you from somewhere....Posted by channingtatumsneckYes but so do women,,,, some turn into stage 20 clingers! I think we have seen enough threads on DXP to support that!
guys change after sex.
😆
click to expand

Posted by centipedesBeing too nice. Trying to hard to impress you.Posted by GoooberI'd say that there starts to be signs after 2 or 3 dates.. very subtle signs. Not two years, but not immediately within one date either.Posted by Impulsv2... years... -_-
I could tell immediately if man is a player . Sure enough it come out in the little details it also helps men tend to get comfortable with me and discloseTMI. But study I read says it takes two years for the true colors to really show in people as they get comfortable. So I agree a façade can be kept up to a certain point, time is in our favor
There's always signs and they go ignored.
Could you provide an example of a red flag that would be visible the very first date?click to expand

Posted by BonesMaloneMy point proven. You knew something was off (probably bc he was being too nice) and you ignored it.Posted by GoooberHe was sweet the first few days. He would check in & see how my day was going. I knew something was off though. It was written all over his face. And then he completely went off on me for not doing what he told me to do. Why are the really attractive guys so damn crazy? Like they can't be fine as hell AND sane. SMHPosted by BonesMaloneHow was this guy when you first met him?
I totally disagree! This fellow Scorpio dude went ape shit on me for not sending him a pic of myself. I thought I blocked his # but he text this morning so I asked if he had ever hit a woman & his reply was yes after she cut me with a knife. He apologized for getting upset & said he felt horrible. I said no worries & blocked dat ass! That's how ppl end up in abusive situations.
If he'll beat your ass later on down the road you can tell. If he only wants sex you can tell. If he's cheating you can tell. If he's lying you can tell. All you have to do is open your eyes. One or two crafty motherfuckers might slip through the cracks but most times the devil is right there in plain sight. Stay woke ladies...click to expand

Posted by capricornmoonAnd this is why many women are so bitter now. Going on rants about how ''men'' are assholes. Lmao. Shadddup!
Uhhh, I go into new relationships with a positive mindset. If women are expected to know that the average dude ain't butter then what's the point? All you can do is hope for the best until given evidence that your hope may be fleeting.

Posted by BonesMaloneI guess you were lucky that he ''went ape shit'' as fast as he did. That what is usually takes for most women to cut things off.Posted by GoooberSweetie if I ignored it we would have gone on a date. Let me clarify there was no courtship. It was the beginning stages of getting to know one another.Posted by BonesMaloneMy point proven. You knew something was off (probably bc he was being too nice) and you ignored it.Posted by GoooberHe was sweet the first few days. He would check in & see how my day was going. I knew something was off though. It was written all over his face. And then he completely went off on me for not doing what he told me to do. Why are the really attractive guys so damn crazy? Like they can't be fine as hell AND sane. SMHPosted by BonesMaloneHow was this guy when you first met him?
I totally disagree! This fellow Scorpio dude went ape shit on me for not sending him a pic of myself. I thought I blocked his # but he text this morning so I asked if he had ever hit a woman & his reply was yes after she cut me with a knife. He apologized for getting upset & said he felt horrible. I said no worries & blocked dat ass! That's how ppl end up in abusive situations.
If he'll beat your ass later on down the road you can tell. If he only wants sex you can tell. If he's cheating you can tell. If he's lying you can tell. All you have to do is open your eyes. One or two crafty motherfuckers might slip through the cracks but most times the devil is right there in plain sight. Stay woke ladies...click to expand

Posted by centipedesWearing a fedora, lol.Posted by GoooberI see. That can def be a red flag esp paired with other indicators, but it could also indicate someone who actually is really nice lol.Posted by centipedesBeing too nice. Trying to hard to impress you.Posted by GoooberI'd say that there starts to be signs after 2 or 3 dates.. very subtle signs. Not two years, but not immediately within one date either.Posted by Impulsv2... years... -_-
I could tell immediately if man is a player . Sure enough it come out in the little details it also helps men tend to get comfortable with me and discloseTMI. But study I read says it takes two years for the true colors to really show in people as they get comfortable. So I agree a façade can be kept up to a certain point, time is in our favor
There's always signs and they go ignored.
Could you provide an example of a red flag that would be visible the very first date?
The red signs I looked out for when on the market were things like:
* Interrupting even slightly without apologizing
* Ordering for you at the restaurant
* Being even slightly short or snippy with service workers
* Speaking badly about anyone
* Wearing a fedoraclick to expand



Posted by GoooberLMBO!!!! I laughed at "wearing a fedora" too. ha ha ha haPosted by centipedesWearing a fedora, lol.Posted by GoooberI see. That can def be a red flag esp paired with other indicators, but it could also indicate someone who actually is really nice lol.Posted by centipedesBeing too nice. Trying to hard to impress you.Posted by GoooberI'd say that there starts to be signs after 2 or 3 dates.. very subtle signs. Not two years, but not immediately within one date either.Posted by Impulsv2... years... -_-
I could tell immediately if man is a player . Sure enough it come out in the little details it also helps men tend to get comfortable with me and discloseTMI. But study I read says it takes two years for the true colors to really show in people as they get comfortable. So I agree a façade can be kept up to a certain point, time is in our favor
There's always signs and they go ignored.
Could you provide an example of a red flag that would be visible the very first date?
The red signs I looked out for when on the market were things like:
* Interrupting even slightly without apologizing
* Ordering for you at the restaurant
* Being even slightly short or snippy with service workers
* Speaking badly about anyone
* Wearing a fedora
Those are other good red flags though.click to expand

Posted by MsTeeq1974You're very convincing except I'm not understanding how women are still being played in this day and age when there are examples like, everywhere. I'd say many men don't need to put on a mask these days, women still flock to men who are publicly and shamelessly assholes and that speaks volumes *shrugs* .
I would agree and disagree. There are immediate tale tell or tell tale signs for some, especially guys who either don't care or haven't perfected their con artistry yet. HOWEVER, there are some SLICK and well rehearsed players out there. They've not only perfected the game, but can write a book on it and teach classes AND issue certificates for that. I guess I lump jerks and players all in one category, because really, I don't want to date and not going to deal with either or them for long at all. The other reason why I lump them into one category is that every player is a jerk at heart. Now, every jerk MIGHT not be a player. It just depends. I classify a man as a jerk who just doesn't care. We all have flaws, that's not even avoidable and unfortunately some of our flaws involve jerk-like moments, but a person who isn't a jerk will recognize that they hurt someone or is hurting someone and will curb their behavior in attempts to avoid bad blood or making someone feel like crap.
Unfortunately, very few men in comparison to the overall populous fit that description. lol Or rather they don't fit the description until they've met a woman who grabs their attention in a way that they feel inspired NOT to be a jerk. I mean...guys go around dick punching each other and doing other rude things to each other. What can us women expect towards us? Lol

Posted by tizianiOh yes we do! My kids' father was a PERFECT example of that. Even when I tried to pick a different kind of guy in my ex-husband, he wasn't as bad...not NEARLY as bad as my kids' father, but shoot...he was STILL an asshole. I swear, those two are my reference points, because not since either of them have I picked guys as horrible as they are...in their own ways. I'm constantly examining self to discover how to cut away and rid of thinking that draws shitty men into my life. The sad part about having toxic relationship patterns burned into your psyche is that if you're not careful to examine self, you can inadvertently go backwards and pick a horrible partner, because you forgot to continue the practice of thinking well of yourself and knowing that you have the right to a good life. Shit is always happening to all of us, but for women and women who grew up in toxic environments, I think it hits us a little differently. I'm constantly practicing self love and will never take for granted that I have this thing on lock. It's a constant/consistent work in progress. I just keep reminding myself that even when I make mistakes in judgement that I COULD have just accepted what I grew up with/in and not have looked for anything better within myself at all. That makes me smile and want better for myself more and more. When you think about it, someone is pretty much always waiting around for you to trip and fall so that they can put their foot on your neck. Now, I'm not saying that this has to be the focus of everyday life, but I feel like you just have to know it's true, try to avoid the pitfalls and traps of life (starting with your OWN flawed thinking), and know that sometimes failing is a choice. When it's inevitable, you just have to know that getting back up is always an option as wePosted by GoooberThey were the guys who told us we also seek out the example of our childhood in our adult relationships.Posted by tizianiIt's always something new with you, lol.Posted by GoooberFreud and Jung's lifetime of work up in flames, right here.Posted by LittleStar
I think it depends on a woman's situation. The are taught how to be treated and then they either accept it or learn otherwise. If she's had a good example, she's more likely to know when she sees an asshole.
Don't you think if they didn't have a good example, that they'd look for the complete opposite?
Who is this Freud and Jung and what are they about?click to expand



Posted by GoooberGoober, as much as I WANT to agree with you, because then it'd just be a simple concept, my experience is that human beings come in a spectrum of good and bad that influences what we can expect. The guys who are REALLY good at it have learned how to act the part in certain instances. It's like testing a bridge for weaknesses. They've reinforced the ropes and planks where they know a "creak" is bound to be heard by the woman. You know? It's not even that they have to be all roses and sunshine, but just knowing the decent response to certain situations, etc. It's the same way that a person doesn't know that they've encountered a serial killer until they realize that not only is their life in danger, but hmmm..."you've done this before". See...that's what I'm talking about. When you get to the detection point along the way that you realize the lines have been rehearsed, etc. This is why I don't try to be the "perfect female" in my interaction with guys. If I'm comfortable being me and not worrying what he will think or say about my flaws, then he'sPosted by MsTeeq1974You're very convincing except I'm not understanding how women are still being played in this day and age when there are examples like, everywhere. I'd say many men don't need to put on a mask these days, women still flock to men who are publicly and shamelessly assholes and that speaks volumes *shrugs* .
I would agree and disagree. There are immediate tale tell or tell tale signs for some, especially guys who either don't care or haven't perfected their con artistry yet. HOWEVER, there are some SLICK and well rehearsed players out there. They've not only perfected the game, but can write a book on it and teach classes AND issue certificates for that. I guess I lump jerks and players all in one category, because really, I don't want to date and not going to deal with either or them for long at all. The other reason why I lump them into one category is that every player is a jerk at heart. Now, every jerk MIGHT not be a player. It just depends. I classify a man as a jerk who just doesn't care. We all have flaws, that's not even avoidable and unfortunately some of our flaws involve jerk-like moments, but a person who isn't a jerk will recognize that they hurt someone or is hurting someone and will curb their behavior in attempts to avoid bad blood or making someone feel like crap.
Unfortunately, very few men in comparison to the overall populous fit that description. lol Or rather they don't fit the description until they've met a woman who grabs their attention in a way that they feel inspired NOT to be a jerk. I mean...guys go around dick punching each other and doing other rude things to each other. What can us women expect towards us? Lolclick to expand


Posted by centipedesI learned how not to think this way about something that you feel isn't right until maybe a dozen people (NOT DXP USERS), but people who you know love you or at least care about your well being have said this about you. In my case, about 250 people have told me that I'm Cray...I believe them. LMBO!!!! Funny...my mother said this to me this morning near the end of our convo. Then I texted my guy with an update and he said the SAME EXACT THING. lol My thought was, "Well...at least I'm 2 for 2...WINNING!" lol ha ha haPosted by GoooberIt wasn't extremely obvious to me when I was 18 and not that experienced in dating.
@Centipedes Wow. Most of those are extremely obvious red flags. Thanks for providing this list.
I thought I was just being oversensitive and paranoid.click to expand
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