Virgo & Reading too much into things

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Been seeing this virgo (Virgo sun/Virgo rising/Aries moon/Scorp venus) for over 2 months.. he's got a lot of emotional damage/fear when it comes to relationships. He is confusing as fuck. Last week I told him "I'd like for this to be official eventually". And he said "Im not ready to trust to that level but I want to/am trying to." Why does "offically dating" mean we're in love— *beats head into wall* If anyone knows about scorpios (and libra venus) we are very strong pursuers. I see something I want, I take it. My HEART moves slower. So then yesterday, he said something about some song and "when he was dating someone else" uhm.. okay.. so then we are? And then I asked him if he'd mind me being affectionate with him around other people, and he said "I don't know people are already misinterpreting".

I am so getting tired of this yes and no head game. I just want to be able to act how I feel without having to be afraid I'm going to scare him away. And I think that he is scared because he thinks that just because I'm into him, want to be offically dating him, and want to see where things go, that I'm in love with him. He ACTS like he does care and is into me. Hell he offered to drive me over an hour so I could get to my class (which I ended up cancelling) bc my truck broke down. Came over and tried to fix it. Can't keep his hands off me when we're alone. And is still around, and into me, when I DO tell him what I want, even if it is something scary to him.... which I really just don't think he's interpreting me right.

Not really sure how to make him understand what I mean by what I say, and stop reading more into it than is there. I can't take a whole lot more of this head game it is making me anxious and I *am* starting to get feelings for him, so either I need to know this is going to develop further or I need to stop before I get hurt. I *think* its mutual based on his actions.
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Posted by Skykomish

stop reading more into it than is there

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You are the one reading more into it than there is ... for example .. he tells you he isn't ready for the level of trust that you ask for, and ASSUME (due to misinterpreting because you are hearing what you want to hear, rather than what he says) ... you assume he is referencing love.


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Posted by P-Angel
Virgos don't test people.


In summation, since those the quoting got messed up ..... he is telling you exactly what he means, and YOU are reading more into it.

Notorius Scorpio behaviour .... twist it, manipulate the situation.


He's a Virgo, he'll be picking up on this very soon, if he hasn't already





I'm sorry for derailing.

@P-Angel..seriously I'm not being sarcastic or anything...But what makes you think that you know Virgos in such a way that everybody else is wrong about Virgos other than you? God knows I have looked for the traits you talk about and my Virgo has none...I'm being honest here. Have you ever thought that maybe your relationship with your husband was not a good one because you were not the right one for him?

Virgo & Pisces: At first it seems so perfect, but soon that feeling wears off and the relationship will end.

I'm sure you have read that before and heard it millions of times that Virgos best match is Virgos,Taurus,,Cancer and Caps,
I just don't see how you think you know so much about a certain sign just because you are married to one and obviously not happy.
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And yes Virgos do test you..My Virgo has done it to me before at first when we started..they do it to see how much you love them..That is something really important to Virgos, they need to be sure that the person that is with them really loves them and that they can trust them.

I dont care who you are on this board..We all have at one time or another played some kind of head game...please dont tell me who have not because you are lying. Men and women alike.
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Normally I completely ignore you P-Angel. You've been on my block list for a year. Took you off just to read this. You completely misinterpreted what I said. Since I know your entire purpose in replying to my posts is simply to piss me off, I could care less what you think, however if you're misinterpreting it, others who may actually want to give me some real advice could also. Which is the only reason I am answering this. You'll go back on block in about 5 minutes. I don't think you're stupid, you're just a hater, and I don't want to deal with it.

I haven't told ANYONE that I think he's in love with me. Didn't even say it here. Thanks for reading more into what I said than was there... gosh that sounds familiar. What I have told people is that I like him, and he is confusing me. And direct quotes of what he said, and actions that he has done. I have no idea who is misinterpreting or what they are saying. The reason I think HE THINKS that, is because he has said point blank "I think you have stronger feelings for me than I'm able to return". I am not trying to find out if the guy is in love with me. I'm not stupid. I'm also not in love with him. I am just starting to realize that I'm JUuuuusst starting to care. And I am NOT going to repeat the situation I had last year and end up getting in too deep and then find out that it was meaningless. I am learning. And what I DO want to know, what I AM asking, is if this is worth taking a chance on, or if I should stop now before I get any more attached.

You lost credibility with this scorpio ages ago.. and you are also totally reading more into what I said and misinterpreting. So stop the condescending attitude. You can go back on block now. If anyone else followed her line of thinking, I hope I clarified well enough what I am actually asking.
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Posted by TaurusBadGirl

And yes Virgos do test you..My Virgo has done it to me before at first when we started..they do it to see how much you love them..That is something really important to Virgos, they need to be sure that the person that is with them really loves them and that they can trust them.






You failed again .. Virgos do not test people to see if the person loves them.

Not true, in fact, a Virgo is more inclined to be a person of intregity who is trustworthy ... INSTEAD of being with them for the sake of love.

Trust - yes ... love them - no ..

testing no way does a Virgo ever do that. You just wouldn't know because you are in a fantasy. Hell you even talked about the Virgo wanting to spend the rest of his life with you, while you haven't even worked out how to be in a bi-racial relationship and deal with family.


You're not even close to even understanding the man .... Virgos test themselves, to check their own self worth .. not YOU.

:::: shakes head ::::

You should seriously stop trying to counsel people on Virgos, but, you don't get them at all.
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Posted by TaurusBadGirl

And yes Virgos do test you..My Virgo has done it to me before at first when we started..they do it to see how much you love them..That is something really important to Virgos, they need to be sure that the person that is with them really loves them and that they can trust them.

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You failed again .. Virgos do not test people to see if the person loves them.

Not true, in fact, a Virgo is more inclined to be a person of intregity who is trustworthy ... INSTEAD of being with them for the sake of love.

Trust - yes ... love them - no ..

testing no way does a Virgo ever do that. You just wouldn't know because you are in a fantasy. Hell you even talked about the Virgo wanting to spend the rest of his life with you, while you haven't even worked out how to be in a bi-racial relationship and deal with family.


You're not even close to even understanding the man .... Virgos test themselves, to check their own self worth .. not YOU.

:::: shakes head ::::

First of all like always you never answer the question you are asked. What makes you right about Virgos and all of us wrong?

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TBG,

because P-Angel knows everything there is to know about every sign. Don't you know that yet? And she also knows exactly what you are thinking even when its not really what you were thinking at all, and not even close to what you said. She's a troller. *shrug*

Thanks for the insight. This very well may be the case. Saw a quote the other day saying "Sometimes, we build walls, just to see who cares enough to knock them down". I think... to answer my own question.. I will get what I want if I just give him the time to process it and trust. I'm scared to let my walls down, and I am really afraid if I let one stone go, that the whole thing will crumble. I just need to make sure that doesn't happen. He already ACTS like he is my bf. Another virgo friend told me "if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has feathers like a duck.. it's probably a duck". I only decided I wanted to be officially dating (not bf/gf per se, but dating) last week. DXP is often a place that I can vent... almost use it as a diary in some ways.

I don't get why P-Angel bothered to answer, unless it was just answering you (I havent read it) since I told her she was going back on block. But whatever. Guess it gives her some kind of peace of mind.
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Posted by Skykomish
TBG,

because P-Angel knows everything there is to know about every sign. Don't you know that yet? And she also knows exactly what you are thinking even when its not really what you were thinking at all, and not even close to what you said. She's a troller. *shrug*

Thanks for the insight. This very well may be the case. Saw a quote the other day saying "Sometimes, we build walls, just to see who cares enough to knock them down". I think... to answer my own question.. I will get what I want if I just give him the time to process it and trust. I'm scared to let my walls down, and I am really afraid if I let one stone go, that the whole thing will crumble. I just need to make sure that doesn't happen. He already ACTS like he is my bf. Another virgo friend told me "if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has feathers like a duck.. it's probably a duck". I only decided I wanted to be officially dating (not bf/gf per se, but dating) last week. DXP is often a place that I can vent... almost use it as a diary in some ways.

I don't get why P-Angel bothered to answer, unless it was just answering you (I havent read it) since I told her she was going back on block. But whatever. Guess it gives her some kind of peace of mind.



Hi Sky, yes I decided a long time ago that I wasn't going to let her get to me anymore, besides I have no time for her.

You do what your heart tells you, yes breaking their walls is not easy and if you can achive that then you are half way there...Take it one day at a time and I'm sure he will come around, also some men meaning Virgos when they think they are showing too much of their feelings they tend to run and hide, so maybe he still trying to come to terms on how much he truly cares for you..I'm sure he will come around soons..I hope things work out for ya.

As far as P-Angel I think I'm going to block her also...you know she wasn't like this before..as a matter of fact when I was dating my ex she used to always give me advice, and very good one if I say so myself, she was nice to me..but when I came back after 2 yrs she did a whole 180..Its a shame.

My Virgo says I shouldn't let her get to me and that I care too much what people say, honestly I am that way, the reason being is that I try and treat everyone with respect, and I have never disrespected anyone on DXP.
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TaurusBG,

If it matters at all, you've still got my respect 🙂 You definitely seem like a decent person and are respectful even to those who don't return it. *cough* P-Angel.

lol I often say I *need* someone who can slow me down. And I still don't really want to be reined in. 😛 At any rate I'm comfortable right now letting things be. I'm sure I'll start worrying about shit again, I always do, but I'm okay at the moment at least.
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well you're dealing with two broken hearts.

there are needs here outside of your own... you have to remember that he is just as hurt as you are, which is why he is so hesitant to make things "official" again. making that commitment, to him, means that there is love involved (which is trust). why would he waste his time otherwise? you need to give him space. virgos warm up on their own, but pushing and prying for answers to everything will only prolong the process, shut him down, and not give you anything but frustration.

you are like me in heartbreak. headstrong, determined, I need everything written out beforehand so I know what I'm getting myself into. virgos are more quiet, timid, cold with giving away their feelings. it is most likely going to be a slow process for him, if you are willing to be patient. affection is not love but it is a way of communicating. that does not mean he trusts you with his heart yet. you don't even trust him with yours, do you? he picks up on that, so why would you expect him to give you all of himself when you're both hesitant to open the door? he won't make the move until he knows how you feel. by you saying you want to test the waters, you're not in love-- well he's not going to put himself into that situation. his perspective: if I do not know 100% that this will work out, I could be hurt again. every action is so he won't get hurt again. virgos are incredibly sensitive. it is easiest for him to test your feelings by being affectionate on a physical level. your reciprocation here confirms your affections toward him. attraction on the most instinctual, sexual level is easier to figure out, rather than delving into the emotional ones first. give him some time, and try to be more open with him on where you're coming from. otherwise all this pressure will push him away.

you have to step back and think: it isn't fair for him to throw his guard down while you still keep yours up. trust does not work that way, nor does honesty.

this is coming from a pisces who is happily involved with a virgo. we grow together every day. and yes, he tests, he says so all the time (jokingly), but I believe there is truth to it. do not write off all opposite compatibilities, everything is dependent on the stars and individual attitude.
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Posted by Skykomish

... I told him "I'd like for this to be official eventually". And he said "Im not ready to trust to that level but I want to/am trying to." Why does "offically dating" mean we're in love—








You are the one reading too much into it, and misunderstanding him ... you can spend the rest of your life being derogatory towards me if it makes you feel better to have a whipping post (due to you not having emotional control over yourself) ... however, the facts remain the same.


You have made a thread claiming that he is not understanding you, when it is you not understanding him because being a Scorpio you have twisted his words .. he talks about trust, you think he thinks it's love because you think you know how he is thinking.

Seriously .. and then you have girls responding who don't even have a man, they are merely trying to get thier man and using tactics rather than being real.

I'm not surprised though ... everything you post in dxp is delusional .. one only has to go read the Scorpio board to find that out. Like the thread you made for instance where you talk about every person in your life against you, even your pastor.
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TaurusBG,

If it matters at all, you've still got my respect 🙂 You definitely seem like a decent person and are respectful even to those who don't return it. *cough* P-Angel.

lol I often say I *need* someone who can slow me down. And I still don't really want to be reined in. 😛 At any rate I'm comfortable right now letting things be. I'm sure I'll start worrying about shit again, I always do, but I'm okay at the moment at least.



Thank you Sky, you are also very sweet. Im the same way, ill be ok for a few and then it goes back into my mind bugging the hell out of me again. Its like DT says..give him space..if it's meant to be he will come around, and thats to any sign not just a Virgo.🙂
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I don't really post much, more of a lurker But I have noticed a lot of dis-contempt for this p-angel person. Having said that I don't think she is trolling you, she made some pretty good points while being quite blunt and honest (which is nice). I'm dating a virgo right now, which is actually the reason why I joined in the first place and I can tell you this, they mean what they say. Trust is a pretty big deal to them but a bigger deal is whether you're good enough for them, your bf just seems like he's feeling you our rather than fearing falling in love with you. Btw I don't think he associates being official with being in love as p-angel said you are misinterpreting that.

As for my advice, if he does have a lot of baggage don't pressure him. From my experience with my own virgo they seem to be very good at stressing themselves out about everything so don't add to that, be chill and be the girl who he can unwind with. They take forever to open up but the wait and steady pace is well worth the wait.
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Well, I think I listened to all of you in what I decided to do about this... told him the truth. Was blunt and honest. Told him I have feelings for him and I can't keep going down this road if he isn't going to give me a chance. Because I can't keep my emotions separate anymore. (now really, that sounds like it was just fuck buddies but we'd had that conversation multiple times and it wasnt.. was more like, lets see what this is) But that I want to stay his friend, and will probably always like him (have for long enough now to know that, despite both of us being with other people, distance etc) and if/when he is ready to give us a chance, he should let me know. His answer was that he wanted to and if it wasn't for being in the head/heart space he's in (thanks to these other bitches) he would have done.

Sigh. And I totally feel like I made the wrong choice. Miss him like crazy, I know he was feeling something, even if it wasn't there yet... maybe I should have just waited. But it'd been 3 months. Not that I don't think he's worth waiting for, but I don't want to fool myself. I am so broken up about it.. its not really very fun at all. I so want to be done with this foolish game called love. I just don't know how to get off the fucking rollercoaster.
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I can't speak for him as I discounted astrologically labeling people about a year ago (Unfair to mentally control them and doesn't accurately label someone's actions more than fifty percent of the time scientifically speaking) but my chart fits me to a T and if you claim that he's like me then I will weigh in, but not on his actions. I can only speak for how I come at relationships, and ON them sometimes 😛

Maturity-wise, I gave up on flings a long time ago. I seek out traits in a partner. Trust, loyalty, humor, the ability to connect mentally, intelligent conversation that stirs the imagination, and a "subdued flamboyance" in public. I want a good old fashioned woman that even if she gets looks by other men, she won't let it go to her head. I will not keep pining for someone that isn't into me as much as I am into them. Mutual love and respect for me.

In determining if these traits do exist, I do in fact test. Carefully chosen words (Often nonchalant and made completely unaware of my motives) will let me know how she reacts in certain situations.

This is most of the time a long drawn out mental courting process.

You may not know if he's into you initially. Flirting techniques are also subdued i.e. slight touching, simple compliments, offering help in any fashion to include working on your problems, etc. Once I'm sure, I will open up more and start letting you know exactly what I'm after. No beating around the bush at that point.

If I'm not into you, that's hard to tell someone. The "flirting techniques" may stop or slow, but I hate being hated so generally I will not stick my neck out there and tell you I'm not into you. I'd rather keep you as a friend instead of burning a bridge, so I can see how that may be misconstrued.

If he's not responding to your "making it official" he doesn't want that label. I'm a huge labeler. If anything fits into a box it helps me sleep at night to have categorized it. Labels come with responsibilities and expectations. If he didn't oblige, he doesn't want more than a friendship.

That's my take.
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Ok I read this post and feel the urge to post so here I go.

Pisces and virgo can and/or cannot go together, just like any sign. More comes into play with it.

The virgo guy I've been dating HAS tested me, but only from the anger standpoint (well as far as I know of or should I say he has admitted to lol). He told me he wants to see me get mad, just too see how I am in that aspect.

Love and trust goes hand in hand. You cannot have love without trust and you cannot trust without some sort of level of love (friendship or more). Honestly if a virgo didn't care he/she would be indifferent and not care to build up a trust level with you. My virgo always says (about other people) I don't and will not involve myself in other people's lives I don't care about and I expect them to do the same. Bam, love that mind set.

I see where P-Angel is coming from where she says you are reading too much into it, but not the degree she states it. Also I see where Sky states that P-Angel is reading too much into what she is saying. Sky P-Angel will never admit to this (you will have a better chance of catching bigboot in vacation in Hawaii). With that said.

I had looked at your original post and I agree with Taurusbadgirl stated. I will rehash this...patience is the key and also you have to be willing to get hurt as he has to be willing to do the same. You can't expect the guy to break down his empire when you have one of your own doing errected.

Final note. P-Angel... your statement of 'Seriously .. and then you have girls responding who don't even have a man, they are merely trying to get thier man and using tactics rather than being real."

Is HILARIOUS!! I will give you the benefit of the doubt and state you are not trying to get a man, well if you are you don't post it or here, but I don't follow you so who knows, but just BECAUSE you are married to a Virgo doesn't mean you have a man. The man that who is with your man, IS the one who possess your man. In short, you have no man as well. Just a virgo that co-habites with you and may or may not help you pay the bills. Just remember that when you throw that stone...that sucker is a boomerang and will smack you upside the head.

Good day all and good luck to everyone!! We all need all the luck and love that life brings to us!!
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Posted by OP3CRIMSIN
I can't speak for him as I discounted astrologically labeling people about a year ago (Unfair to mentally control them and doesn't accurately label someone's actions more than fifty percent of the time scientifically speaking) but my chart fits me to a T and if you claim that he's like me then I will weigh in, but not on his actions. I can only speak for how I come at relationships, and ON them sometimes 😛

Maturity-wise, I gave up on flings a long time ago. I seek out traits in a partner. Trust, loyalty, humor, the ability to connect mentally, intelligent conversation that stirs the imagination, and a "subdued flamboyance" in public. I want a good old fashioned woman that even if she gets looks by other men, she won't let it go to her head. I will not keep pining for someone that isn't into me as much as I am into them. Mutual love and respect for me.

In determining if these traits do exist, I do in fact test. Carefully chosen words (Often nonchalant and made completely unaware of my motives) will let me know how she reacts in certain situations.

This is most of the time a long drawn out mental courting process.

You may not know if he's into you initially. Flirting techniques are also subdued i.e. slight touching, simple compliments, offering help in any fashion to include working on your problems, etc. Once I'm sure, I will open up more and start letting you know exactly what I'm after. No beating around the bush at that point.

If I'm not into you, that's hard to tell someone. The "flirting techniques" may stop or slow, but I hate being hated so generally I will not stick my neck out there and tell you I'm not into you. I'd rather keep you as a friend instead of burning a bridge, so I can see how that may be misconstrued.

If he's not responding to your "making it official" he doesn't want that label. I'm a huge labeler. If anything fits into a box it helps me sleep at night to have categorized it. Labels come with responsibilities and expectations. If he didn't oblige, he doesn't want more than a friendship.


i totally agree with this to the tee!
That's my take.

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I agree with a lot of the responses on here about virgos. I just want to add that if he has had some emotional damage in the past, it will take awhile to heal. I'm speaking from experience. When hurt deeply, whether emotionally or physically, it takes any person a while to heal and find themselves again. I don't know his background, but if it was me, I would be very skeptical of the people and who they are after going through a hurtful situation. There probably isn't anything wrong with you, but we take things at our own pace that we feel comfortable with.

I don't like being pushed or cornered into a relationship at all. Usually my first intuition about a person is correct, and if I am interested, I will continue being around them and learning more. I have a lot of scorpio friends btw, mybest friend is a scorpio. I love her to death, but sometimes she is just too brash for me. Respect a person and what they are ready for. With a Virgo, respect and patience goes a long way.

Last thing I want to say is that I don't really feel that I test someone as much as I am just analyzing them and their behaviors to see if we are really compatible in a relationship. Friendshipwise I am much more open for people of all different temperments, but my close friends I fully trust. I love being around a variety of people. There is always something to learn from another person.

Good luck, and I hope all works out the way it is meant.