Virgos How do I help my Virgo Friend

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So here's the scoop... it'll probably end up being long...

So my best friend is a Virgo. And she has a Scorpio bf. They've been together since high school. He has cheated on her multiple times (since highschool) but she keeps taking him back. (One of those times he lost a fuckin tooth while havin sex with the other girl and that's how we found out..idiot.. but that's another story).
So yeaarrsss ago he told me, and a few other ppl close to Virgo that he "Didnt want to be with her, but he wanted her to always be his lady" umm ok?. So of course, her being my bestie, I told her. She brushed it off.. I didn't push it.

Fast Forward to Last year. They were going to break up but then Virgo found out she was pregnant. She has had the baby (I feel theres so much I'm leaving out but I'm not writing a novel today). Hes Not a very good provider so far gives diapers when he feels like it, comes and visits when he feels like it... just not the "family" she wanted.

Fast forward 2 weeks ago. Virgo is out of town for a few days and when she comes home she finds out Scorpio was at the club with his "bestfriend"(a woman). Virgo has known about this friend(she knows they have had sex before and STILL let's them hangout. Shes so meek it's annoying). So at the club Libra, a friend of Virgo, saw them holding hands & about to kiss when she walks up to them and says You know that's my friends (VIrgo's) man right? And the girl goes off talkin bout "I been with him!"

So Libra tells Virgo, Virgo at 1st acts mad. A day later her and Scorpio man "had a talk" and they're a happy family again. She is like a doormat. She could have at least PRETENDED to leave his ass.... nope.

So this weekend VIRGO decides to suprised Scorpio man with some food and she wanted the D Lol. So she goes to his apartment around 2 am.. The roommate let's her in and she walks in to see her man with the same chick from the club legs wrapped around him kissing nshit.. she leaves....

NOW ALL YOU VIRGOS HELP!! What words do I say to this girl to help her to be able to make the right decision for her! He is no good!!! (Thers SOO MUCH i left out about his ass.. like buying Jordans instead of the engagement ring, not buying the baby anything it needs, cussin out her momma on and on) He doesn't deserve her never did... I know in reality I can't do much. This is all on her but I can influence her! I hate to see her go through this!! How to get this Virgo woman to let it go??
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c mentiones she's a friend, even moreso a bestie of yours. However your judgments on her are as follows:

Posted by ragingfirelove
Shes so meek it's annoying
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She is like a doormat. She could have at least PRETENDED to leave his ass.... nope.
...to not even bring up the snide comments about how you think you KNOW the family she wanted, how you think you KNOW the dynamics they have in their relationship and if it's up to her standards on not. Clue for you: they are, that's why she stays. What you think is acceptable to them both is not up to your approval and you should get a hint and be a friend, which I really think you're not at all.

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but I can influence her!
Let me guess, you honestly believe that. lol

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I hate to see her go through this!!
No, you don't. It's all between the lines. Schadenfreude.

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How to get this Virgo woman to let it go??
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As a friend it's not up to you to sway her in any way or have any business poking your nose in her business. She will stick by him or let him go by her own timeline and feelings, not control freak wannabe friends timelines.
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Love is blind. She's not the only one in this universe who will continue to be a "door mat". The "d" WINS each and EVERY TIME! She needs to grow some b*a*l*l*s!! I'm NOT her (thank God!); but I'd get a lawyer and get child support duly deserved for the child. I HATE to read stories like this where women are so DAMN gullible!! And I read that Pisceans are GULLIBLE....NOT!

(Eva stops fuming). Sends a cyber hug to your "door mat/gullible Virgo BFF" 🤗

Love,

Eva
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So your topic mentiones she's a friend, even moreso a bestie of yours. However your judgments on her are as follows:

Posted by ragingfirelove
Shes so meek it's annoying
Posted by ragingfirelove
She is like a doormat. She could have at least PRETENDED to leave his ass.... nope.
...to not even bring up the snide comments about how you think you KNOW the family she wanted, how you think you KNOW the dynamics they have in their relationship and if it's up to her standards on not. Clue for you: they are, that's why she stays. What you think is acceptable to them both is not up to your approval and you should get a hint and be a friend, which I really think you're not at all.

Posted by ragingfirelove
but I can influence her!
Let me guess, you honestly believe that. lol

Posted by ragingfirelove
I hate to see her go through this!!
No, you don't. It's all between the lines. Schadenfreude.

Posted by ragingfirelove
How to get this Virgo woman to let it go??
As a friend it's not up to you to sway her in any way or have any business poking your nose in her business. She will stick by him or let him go by her own timeline and feelings, not control freak wannabe friends timelines.
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*ROLLS eyes SO FUCKING HARDD*

GO away. I just KNEWWW one of yall on here would say "OHH the snide remarks are you REALLY her friend hmm hmmm" Honestly shut the fuck up lol. I been friends with this girl for over 10 years. Everything said here has been said to her face. I've asked her why she being so meek and being a doormat letting him walk all over her! To her face shawty so Get Lost. Verschwinde zieke

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Posted by EvatheDiva
Love is blind. She's not the only one in this universe who will continue to be a "door mat". The "d" WINS each and EVERY TIME! She needs to grow some b*a*l*l*s!! I'm NOT her (thank God!); but I'd get a lawyer and get child support duly deserved for the child. I HATE to read stories like this where women are so DAMN gullible!! And I read that Pisceans are GULLIBLE....NOT!

(Eva stops fuming). Sends a cyber hug to your "door mat/gullible Virgo BFF" 🤗

Love,

Eva
The man actually told her before the baby was born to PUT HIM ON child support!! I was like well at least when you do it he can't say shit. Has she done it? Naw... But you right. Love is blind. I've been there. But if I didn't have my friends and family there to bring me back to reality every once in awhile I'd probably have ended up in a worse situation.
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Posted by starwars
i wont get into her personal business.

all our girlfriends fuck up, put up with douchebags. what ever advice you offer even when asked for, will get into one ear and out the other.

all you can do is be there without getting into her business.

from what you stated she seem to be happy with this guy, only you and her friends arent approving. so let her be.

id advice you to not have this low perception of someone you consider a friend, im not saying to gloss over their fucked up action. but you cant judge them for it.

if the people around her are being judgmental, no wonder she will stick with a "douchebag"
Thanks... yeah me her and our Scorpio friend (NOT her ain't shit ass man) are the 3 amigos. There is No judgment, there is no shade, there is no filter with us. We've been friends for over a decade.. so to an outsider I can se how my comments seem judgmental. But we're more like sisters than anything and she knows how she is! And she agrees with us when we get into her! She agrees he doesn't deserve her, she agrees he ain't shit she says herself she is not happy with him but for some reason he has a hold on her.. so bleh. . I'm stepping back.

I say that all the time Lol until he hurts her again and then I'm right back at it.. its hard to see someone you love be used and played and THEY know it and WE know it and the USER knows it and we just gotta twiddle our thumbs and fucking wait. *SIGHS*
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Love is blind. She's not the only one in this universe who will continue to be a "door mat". The "d" WINS each and EVERY TIME! She needs to grow some b*a*l*l*s!! I'm NOT her (thank God!); but I'd get a lawyer and get child support duly deserved for the child. I HATE to read stories like this where women are so DAMN gullible!! And I read that Pisceans are GULLIBLE....NOT!

(Eva stops fuming). Sends a cyber hug to your "door mat/gullible Virgo BFF" 🤗

Love,

Eva
The man actually told her before the baby was born to PUT HIM ON child support!! I was like well at least when you do it he can't say shit. Has she done it? Naw... But you right. Love is blind. I've been there. But if I didn't have my friends and family there to bring me back to reality every once in awhile I'd probably have ended up in a worse situation.
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Nope; you're smarter than your doormat/gullible BFF. YOU would have put your foot down! 🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva
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Sometimes people have to learn from their own mistakes, they say hindsight is 20/20. All you can do is offer advice, be there for her emotionally, and let her know if shit gets worse she can count on you.

Its always easier to talk yourself out of a bad situation when you arent in said situation. You arent living her life so its easy for you to say "yeah, Id leave right then and there" but shes living that day in & day out, its a bit tougher to escape that.
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Ok...I see you were quoted. Judging by what you said about your "friend", you sound like you're jealous of her relationship, or you're jealous of her. Why are you so concerned with HER relationship?
Why remove it? because unhelpful bitches like you †. Idk why I even asked dxp REAL LIFE questions and expected real life answers.. silly me

Why be concerned? because this is my soul sister! Someone who I love. And hate to see her going through bullshit, shit I've been through. So I know it hurts..and I know she deserves better.





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Do yall have life long friends on this site? Have yall not created a bond with ANYONE in your life to the point where you can be 100% real with each other and neither person cares?...

I don't think many of you have. Otherwise my words wouldn't be such a suprise... do none of you tell your friends, if you have any, when they're being rude, obnoxious, meek, fickle, ect?

Do none of you care to help a friend who is hurting but doesn't have the courage to leave a situation?

Yeah the truth hurts. Man the fuck up bitches
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Posted by ragingfirelove
Do yall have life long friends on this site? Have yall not created a bond with ANYONE in your life to the point where you can be 100% real with each other and neither person cares?...

I don't think many of you have. Otherwise my words wouldn't be such a suprise... do none of you tell your friends, if you have any, when they're being rude, obnoxious, meek, fickle, ect?

Do none of you care to help a friend who is hurting but doesn't have the courage to leave a situation?

Yeah the truth hurts. Man the fuck up bitches
Absolutely I'm blunt as fuck with my friends. I don't make topics putting them in a bad light ever nor do I talk shit about them on websites.

You get it?

Probably not.
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Posted by ragingfirelove
So if no one has input on how a Virgo will best take advice/What EMPOWERS a Virgo what are you doing here?
Basically...

We're on our board

&

We answered to a topic posted asking for advice. If you can't take it, then quit the act about manning up, put your big girl panties on and roar yourself back to the Leo board.

You're as ridiculous as me going on the Leo board to ask folks for advice then rage at them for being Leos answering to my topic. That is if you had any self-awareness, which I doubt it.
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And just so you can't say you never got any advice...some were blunt, some were nice...

All of us said for you to keep your nose out of your friend's business and not add to what you yourself describe to be a stressful situation for her (if it is or isn't truly stressful for her it's up to her perception). Try taking that unanimous advice if you can, your pompous majesty.
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I have a Virgo friend. (I'm a Libra.) She's super sweet, always doing nice things for others. One day we were talking and she told me about her husband (weird that he's a Scorpio too, but I know some that don't cheat sooo not judging by that) anyway he did cheat on her before they got married. I asked her why she stayed (and ended up having kids) because I left my ex husband for cheating (a Taurus, not a Scorpio) and I wanted to know her perspective. She said she had been with him for far too long by then and she worked hard to have what she had with him. She wasn't going to just give up and let that other woman have him. I don't think he cheats anymore, but I know her better than him. Am I saddened by this news? Yes because she's a great girl, but I asked for her perspective, she told me and I left it at that.

Here's the thing, just like the Libra in your story if I saw my friend's guy kissing another woman in a club hell yeah I'd go up to him and tell him crap. Then go and tell my friend. But after that, she will do what she wants with the news and I have to let it be. I have learned in life, we can't change people. Really there is not much we can do other than tell them our perspective. In the end, they will decide on their own anyway. She is not wanting or willing to let that man go. No matter how bad he is for her.. Sadly, she is the only one who can change her situation. You can be a friend and just be there for her...but honestly no one here knows your friend personally and even if they had an insight into how to empower a Virgo...it doesn't mean it will work on your particular friend. Sorry your friend is going through that. I know you just want to protect her in your own way. Hopefully she is able to see her worth and end up with a man who truly loves her on day.
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Ok...I see you were quoted. Judging by what you said about your "friend", you sound like you're jealous of her relationship, or you're jealous of her. Why are you so concerned with HER relationship?
Why remove it? because unhelpful bitches like you †. Idk why I even asked dxp REAL LIFE questions and expected real life answers.. silly me

Why be concerned? because this is my soul sister! Someone who I love. And hate to see her going through bullshit, shit I've been through. So I know it hurts..and I know she deserves better.





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Unhelpful bitches like me— Yeah I don't know why either...If you're not satisfied with the answers, get the fuck outta here then & go FUCK YOURSELF. †
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Posted by ragingfirelove
Do yall have life long friends on this site? Have yall not created a bond with ANYONE in your life to the point where you can be 100% real with each other and neither person cares?...

I don't think many of you have. Otherwise my words wouldn't be such a suprise... do none of you tell your friends, if you have any, when they're being rude, obnoxious, meek, fickle, ect?

Do none of you care to help a friend who is hurting but doesn't have the courage to leave a situation?

Yeah the truth hurts. Man the fuck up bitches
Why don't you man the fuck DOWN & mind your fucking business— You sound like you're jealous of her.
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@Damnata

You perceived my post as putting her in a bad light. I was just describing the situation. From my perspective. If I call her meek so damn be it. I've said it to her own damn face why walk on egg shells for dxp?? Wtf? You didn't answer shit. Off the bat you came on here nitpicking and nagging. (But what did I expect on a Virgo forum lmao naw but I love yall forreal)
And keep my nose out of it how when she comes to me every time something happens? But alas... I Shall take my majestic ass elseware. Auf wiedersehen
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Posted by scorply
My mom is a Virgo and I have to say all the Virgos I know are extremely dedicated people. They will definitely ride or die with you even when you're no good.With that said, if you love your friend and want to stay friends, support her. It has to be her choice and as a friend, she needs you to support her either way.
Thank you. She will always have my love and support no matter what.
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Do yall have life long friends on this site? Have yall not created a bond with ANYONE in your life to the point where you can be 100% real with each other and neither person cares?...

I don't think many of you have. Otherwise my words wouldn't be such a suprise... do none of you tell your friends, if you have any, when they're being rude, obnoxious, meek, fickle, ect?

Do none of you care to help a friend who is hurting but doesn't have the courage to leave a situation?

Yeah the truth hurts. Man the fuck up bitches
Why don't you man the fuck DOWN & mind your fucking business— You sound like you're jealous of her.
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Ok...I see you were quoted. Judging by what you said about your "friend", you sound like you're jealous of her relationship, or you're jealous of her. Why are you so concerned with HER relationship?
Why remove it? because unhelpful bitches like you †. Idk why I even asked dxp REAL LIFE questions and expected real life answers.. silly me

Why be concerned? because this is my soul sister! Someone who I love. And hate to see her going through bullshit, shit I've been through. So I know it hurts..and I know she deserves better.




Unhelpful bitches like me— Yeah I don't know why either...If you're not satisfied with the answers, get the fuck outta here then & go FUCK YOURSELF. †
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Ok...I see you were quoted. Judging by what you said about your "friend", you sound like you're jealous of her relationship, or you're jealous of her. Why are you so concerned with HER relationship?
Why remove it? because unhelpful bitches like you †. Idk why I even asked dxp REAL LIFE questions and expected real life answers.. silly me

Why be concerned? because this is my soul sister! Someone who I love. And hate to see her going through bullshit, shit I've been through. So I know it hurts..and I know she deserves better.




Unhelpful bitches like me— Yeah I don't know why either...If you're not satisfied with the answers, get the fuck outta here then & go FUCK YOURSELF. †
Part of my nightly ritual
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Ok bye.
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Ok...I see you were quoted. Judging by what you said about your "friend", you sound like you're jealous of her relationship, or you're jealous of her. Why are you so concerned with HER relationship?
Why remove it? because unhelpful bitches like you †. Idk why I even asked dxp REAL LIFE questions and expected real life answers.. silly me

Why be concerned? because this is my soul sister! Someone who I love. And hate to see her going through bullshit, shit I've been through. So I know it hurts..and I know she deserves better.




Unhelpful bitches like me— Yeah I don't know why either...If you're not satisfied with the answers, get the fuck outta here then & go FUCK YOURSELF. †
Part of my nightly ritual
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Prolly why you're jealous, lol. She gets REAL dick, while you're engaging in a "nightly ritual". ‚‚‚
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Posted by jane84
I have a Virgo friend. (I'm a Libra.) She's super sweet, always doing nice things for others. One day we were talking and she told me about her husband (weird that he's a Scorpio too, but I know some that don't cheat sooo not judging by that) anyway he did cheat on her before they got married. I asked her why she stayed (and ended up having kids) because I left my ex husband for cheating (a Taurus, not a Scorpio) and I wanted to know her perspective. She said she had been with him for far too long by then and she worked hard to have what she had with him. She wasn't going to just give up and let that other woman have him. I don't think he cheats anymore, but I know her better than him. Am I saddened by this news? Yes because she's a great girl, but I asked for her perspective, she told me and I left it at that.

Here's the thing, just like the Libra in your story if I saw my friend's guy kissing another woman in a club hell yeah I'd go up to him and tell him crap. Then go and tell my friend. But after that, she will do what she wants with the news and I have to let it be. I have learned in life, we can't change people. Really there is not much we can do other than tell them our perspective. In the end, they will decide on their own anyway. She is not wanting or willing to let that man go. No matter how bad he is for her.. Sadly, she is the only one who can change her situation. You can be a friend and just be there for her...but honestly no one here knows your friend personally and even if they had an insight into how to empower a Virgo...it doesn't mean it will work on your particular friend. Sorry your friend is going through that. I know you just want to protect her in your own way. Hopefully she is able to see her worth and end up with a man who truly loves her on day.
Thanks! And I appreciate the story of your personal experience with Virgo/Scorpio. But yeah. She told me he has a hold on her...And from my own situation when I was "blind in love" no one could tell me anything. I had to leave when I was ready. So yeah.. I hope she does. Either that or he realize what a great woman he has and stop being such a douche( fat chance )
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Ok...I see you were quoted. Judging by what you said about your "friend", you sound like you're jealous of her relationship, or you're jealous of her. Why are you so concerned with HER relationship?
Why remove it? because unhelpful bitches like you †. Idk why I even asked dxp REAL LIFE questions and expected real life answers.. silly me

Why be concerned? because this is my soul sister! Someone who I love. And hate to see her going through bullshit, shit I've been through. So I know it hurts..and I know she deserves better.




Unhelpful bitches like me— Yeah I don't know why either...If you're not satisfied with the answers, get the fuck outta here then & go FUCK YOURSELF. †
Part of my nightly ritual
Prolly why you're jealous, lol. She gets REAL dick, while you're engaging in a "nightly ritual". ‚‚‚
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Sarcasm hun.. Google it.
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Posted by starwars
i think that you feel obligated to hand her a soloution, but from her actions it seem like she doesnt want a solution and only want to vent.

so help her by listening, not by offering advices that she wont take.
*lightbulb*
Wow. Hey this is great. You're right. I mean I'm there for her to vent and all. But then I expect her to leave right? Wrong! Lol.

Can't put my expectations on anyone. (I HATE when ppl put expectations on me omg). So yeah. I'll try this out. I never tell her to leave him(except for the time he moved and got engaged...to someone else) I just say things like you deserve better or if you don't stand up to him he will continue doing what he is doing... but even that. Idk broken Record
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Ok...I see you were quoted. Judging by what you said about your "friend", you sound like you're jealous of her relationship, or you're jealous of her. Why are you so concerned with HER relationship?
Why remove it? because unhelpful bitches like you †. Idk why I even asked dxp REAL LIFE questions and expected real life answers.. silly me

Why be concerned? because this is my soul sister! Someone who I love. And hate to see her going through bullshit, shit I've been through. So I know it hurts..and I know she deserves better.




Unhelpful bitches like me— Yeah I don't know why either...If you're not satisfied with the answers, get the fuck outta here then & go FUCK YOURSELF. †
Part of my nightly ritual
Prolly why you're jealous, lol. She gets REAL dick, while you're engaging in a "nightly ritual". ‚‚‚
Sarcasm hun.. Google it.
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Oh don't worry boo, I google everything & that wasn't sarcasm...that was a weak ass rebuttal.
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Ok...I see you were quoted. Judging by what you said about your "friend", you sound like you're jealous of her relationship, or you're jealous of her. Why are you so concerned with HER relationship?
Why remove it? because unhelpful bitches like you †. Idk why I even asked dxp REAL LIFE questions and expected real life answers.. silly me

Why be concerned? because this is my soul sister! Someone who I love. And hate to see her going through bullshit, shit I've been through. So I know it hurts..and I know she deserves better.




Unhelpful bitches like me— Yeah I don't know why either...If you're not satisfied with the answers, get the fuck outta here then & go FUCK YOURSELF. †
Part of my nightly ritual
Prolly why you're jealous, lol. She gets REAL dick, while you're engaging in a "nightly ritual". ‚‚‚
Sarcasm hun.. Google it.
Oh don't worry boo, I google everything & that wasn't sarcasm...that was a weak ass rebuttal.
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no, that was.
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Well update: She called me last night she said she's done. Really done. I just listened. She said he's psycho and a liar and has been living double lives. So.. its messed up she had to walk in and see that for herself but in a way she needed to otherwise she may have never been able to leave.

Thanks everyone. Looks like yall was right anyway. Yall Virgos are stubborn! Lol