I have to say I have never felt this connection with someone since my first love who was a virgo. I met this virgo and have come extremely connected to him without even really knowing him. Come to find out he is in a relationship he is not happy and wants to leave.
Do virgo's tend to be cheaters, misleaders, or confused individuals? Am I holding on to false hope that we could be together. I am not trying to get involved with the drama, but I don't want to let go, because I have searched for 15 years for this feeling again.
Hello Nelli. Although in many ways I am not the classic Virgo male (according to what the blurb says), when it comes to relationships, I would say I am representative. My opinion is this:
Virgos I believe are (normally, and notwithstanding psycholoigical/mental problems)very commited people, and do not cheat. Speaking for myself, I cannot say NEVER for many things, but I can definitely say it with respect to cheating...I simply would not do it. This is for two reasons:
1) It takes me ages (years even) to find a person who can tick all the boxes, and that person will then be scrutinised and assessed to a very high degree. In other words, I would rather be alone than be with someone just for being with someone. I don't have the insecurity of being alone, and don't feel the need, simple as that. Plus, my time and energy is too precious to spend on something casual...I like to give it my all!
2) Following from the above point, and based on the effort and seriousness that go into my relationships, cheating becomes morally unjustifiable. Firstly because it's wrong, and secondly because I am not a good liar (to myself and the other person). If there was not more steam in the relationship, I would just end it. No drama, no cheating, no loser tactics...
I hope this helps a bit 🙂 Also, if I may say so, if you have not seen concrete signs that he will end his marriage, then do not bother. Many men and women can be (or claim to be) unhappy, and yet go on for years and years in the same relationship. Saying that you *will* leave from actually doing it are totally different, so beware 😉 If I said I can sell you, oh say a Jeep Cherokee at the price of a moped but I need the cheque now to cover transport, would you post it to me? I would hope not! So be carefull and don't accept blank emotional cheques 🙂
Word of advice, don't take things further with anyone who is in a relationship of any kind...Its not fair on anyone..especially not yourself...The dilly dallying of ending a relationship will go on forever and you won't help the process either..
You need to find free spirit in every sense of the word free and take it from there..
Hahaha executive, non-technical summary for Archer follows:
One should give his/her all into the relationship/marriage. To kill and be killed, and non-surgically remove as many scalps as it takes! Call me a romantic fool, and I will be the first to admit it! Based on this, as well as on widelly-accepted moral values on which most societies are founded on (i.e. adults know right from wrong...lying and cheating are one and the same, both wrong...so don't be a loser) it makes Cosmic sense to not cheat.
Speaking for myself, if I have made so much effort to win her and love her, I will not blow all this away for a lie. A lie that our relationship may have become, or a lie to cover my cheating a**e!
Hope this sounds more clear—
Fontas
PS I never said I ain't confused, I just hide it well 😉
Good morning MM, I was definitely not ignoring you! Proof: check our last topic (V-S compatibility) for my love declaration and wedding proposal! 'Nuff said 😉
What plans for the weekend all? Who's going fishing, who's going to the cinema, who's becoming a Scientologist, who's running for President?
"Many men and women can be (or claim to be) unhappy, and yet go on for years and years in the same relationship."
I hear that .. sometimes, it's easier to continue in the normal than make a change. On the other hand .. sometimes, it's easier to leave when there's something on the other side waiting for you.
LOL..yes I come with a warning..I do...Ask the leo that put up with me for 5 years!...Self-centred, ungrateful, moody unbearable cow (were his words on departure)..Hmmm..I guess it hurts to be dumped..LMAO..oooh thats cruel..
Given the choice, most people would take the easy/lazy one. In this case, grind their teeth and stay. I believe that life is too restrictive already, without us erecting even more barriers.
Hahaha I'm going out on a limb here Missy, but dare I suggest that you are over him 😉 Self-centred, ungrateful and all that malarkey he called you...ever heard of 'projection' in psychological terms? The things we don't like about ourselves, we dump or project on others.
LOL..I am not an easy person to live with..I can vouch for that..and yes well he's a fire sign..so you can imagine the battles were royal..as was the making up 😉
We had a good run..and yes well and truly over him..but we are still friends..(his choice)..he's a good guy..
MM yep, seen the DVD, got the Kimono, drank the Sake 🙂 I watched it recently, got it during one of my retail therapy visits to Virgin. I watched it as preparation for working with the crazy Japanese who are selling to all of Europe from this little office in London! Someone told me the book/film gives a good insight into modern Japanese business culture...
...turned out it was all about fit birds in skimpy Kimonos, but hey that's culture too, no?
Ok seriously, it was a great film (and the book will no doubt be infinitely deeper...)!
Well I read the book first...and boy..the book is soooooooooooooooo much deeper..its the only book that bought a tear to my eye on journey into work, gazing out of the window at the hills of Hampstead..(I tend to do that a lot, get lost in my own world)..window seat a must for this exercise..
The book that actually made me cry (cos I love anything military and have a huge connection to war) is Birdsong by Sebastian Faulks..BLOODY NORA..what a fantastic book that is..Stirred every emotion I didn't think possible..
P-Angel..I think so...Once they have decided its you they want..they move..really do move..and they are very affectionate people..love their hugs..bless them..Had I not fallen out of love with the guy..we would've been married for sure by now...
I love Leos..I think they are great people..I tend to get on with the guys and girls from this sign.
A guy that I secretly admire has his moon in Leo, Sun in Aries .. lives where you work. Normally, I don't get on well with Leo's, but, do with Aries .. so, I was just wondering ..
What's bloody Nora .. I've heard that term before.
LOL..Yeah I like all the fire signs..tend to get on with them brilliantly..I have lots of sagi, a few Leo and a lot of Aries friends..I can relate to them much better I guess..me being of a fiery/aggressive disposition..
bloody nora..is another way of saying "oh my god" in an overly dramatic manner..LOL..such a british thing..LOL
Oooh secretly admire? 😉 get in!!!!!!!!..LOL..I heard Leos are quite intrigued by Pisces women..but don't know whether its for the long term..can be quite destructive..
Lucky you .. maybe you see him out of your office window .. I'd die to be sitting where you are .. and you're friggin leaving to come here .. are you nuts .. he's there, right under your nose .. he's be under my desk, if I were you.
Funny, I've heard before that I'm suppose to get on well with Leo's .. and I don't AT ALL .. my rising is in Leo, too. Sags and Aries are fine .. I wonder why I don't get along with the person I'm suppose to?
P-Angel - Who are you talking about? sitting under my nose—..
"I wonder why I don't get along with the person I'm suppose to?" - Maybe defence mechanism? I don't know..I would never have a relationship with a Sag male...they are just good friends. I fear a relationship with Aries because I think they might just be the sexual energy I need!..I do secretly love them..LOL..I need an earthling to calm me down (god help me)
MM .. just a man I fantasize about who lives in the town where you work.
You think fantaszing about a real life person is cheating?
My Scorpio son is married to an Aries and he can't keep up with her .. he thinks he's all virilely macho (you know men) .. but, he has to nap and is out-of-commission for hours after a session, while it was just the appetizer for her .. hell yeah, that's what I'm gonna look for when I finally get off this arse Fontas was talking about .. I'm gonna find one, mark my words .. just booty-call, though .. don't want no man to have to actually take care of, you know.
Sag males are too ditzy for an actual relationship .. females have their marbles sorted. I have to admit, they're so damn good-looking .. just too blonde at the roots for my taste. Definitely doable, though ..
See .. look what just thinking about him does? Damn Aries !!
P-Angel: "You think fantaszing about a real life person is cheating?"
Hmmm..If I am thinking about shagging the next bloke..then I would say yes and that there were a few problems in my current relationship or the zest has gone..Need to something to liven up etc...I think the mind is evil...thats where it all begins..muahahahaha..
::evil laugh echoes::
But its also a stimulant..so fantasize away I guess..don't put it into practise though unless you break up with current beau..
Yes those pesky Aries are sex on legs...literally...Made for Scorpio women of course 😉
I have an Aries Lawyer friend in NYC who is hot on his heels..but aint gonna happen..nobody can predict the future I guess..who knows where I will end up or with whom...LOL..I am game for an adventure
Hello people, back to the machine 🙂 Just came back from our standard Friday pub lunch. Pub is of the overpriced rural variety (with some interesting Freemason symbolism near the bar...I asked about that and got a firm but polite 'Don't know', so didn't ask again hehe), the company is engineers from my office (most are boring to death)...but at least it gets us out of the office, so who's complaining? 🙂
P-Angel, I don't think fantasising is cheating...as long as it stays in the realm of the fantastic of course 😉 I am getting the feeling that you would grab him first chance you got, no?
Btw quite graphic description of your son's love life hehe...did you get all this from his gf? Women talking = evil beyond belief! The downfall of many a great man! Satan's work...
Also P-Angel, Sag females are dizzy too, let's not get carried away too much here...all the females I know of that star sign are very fun people, but when it comes to relationships they don't know if they are coming or leaving hehe. Very funny to watch!
But at least boss paid for my lunch..and considering he's letting me go to have my hair done at 4.30pm and then not returning to office...I would say that was pretty good going for Friday..
Caramba, women always get away with it! I can imagine if I told my boss to let me go early to have my hair done, get a pedicure/manicure/facial, or even pay for my lunch...
Boss: Yeah, when pigs fly..and you can eff off too 🙂
Where I will be working is like Little Tokyo (around Hanover Park), so expect to see a gradual transformation from rugged yet sophisticated Cretan to hyperkinetic Japanese doing Sudoku in the tube and banging on old ladies' windows at 4 am after a Sake bender...
Hik, hik...Tora Tora Toraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
Missy, are you related to Missy Elliot or is it just a coincidence? You do a mean hip hop number though...
Actually Fontas .. they lived with me a couple years before the babies started coming and .. well .. she's kind of loud, lol .. there was no mistaking what they were doing in "there" .. she come out beaming .. him near death.
You all have great bosses .. pub lunch, new doo .. now, it's only a couple more hours and yahooooooooo .. party time !!!!! Did your boss let you consume alcohol on the clock? If so WOW .. however, not much work would get done afterwards .. it's what? Like nearly two o'clock there?
"I am getting the feeling that you would grab him first chance you got, no?" Fantasy man? Hell yeah .. he wouldn't even have to take a bath .. just rip his clothes off .. he's really hot .. at least in my head. In real life, he's probably an arse, cause you know .. it works that way .. the ones you think are good, usually aren't. Who cares? In my head, he's not talking, so I don't care if he's a jerk.
P-Angel, who's the Virgo hater? Toi? Hmmm...obviously you have been meeting the wrong Virgos, my rational scientific mind cannot find any other explanation! Not, it cannot be! Never!
Do virgo's tend to be cheaters, misleaders, or confused individuals? Am I holding on to false hope that we could be together. I am not trying to get involved with the drama, but I don't want to let go, because I have searched for 15 years for this feeling again.