speromelior
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Virgos please help - What went wrong here
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Speromelior,this is where honesty cuts both ways,everyone wants whoever they are involved with to be honest,but then they are honest in what THEY are feeling and it's not to your liking,then it becomes a probblem.She was being honest with you,this is how she feels.This is where Virgo is different from other signs,instead of a slow long lingering death to the relationship,we shoot it,when it first breaks a leg rather than have it bleed to death before our very eyes.If it lingers on and on,then it finally ends,where one party is totally deluded and upset,this what creates a stalker.If the relationship isn't comfortable,why stay in it.Why?So your ego has another ding to it and you are alone for awhile,that is part of life,having these experiences and learning from them.
How you broke up? This is classic Virgo Gal break up 101 = it's not you,it's me.
Why?
"I think this virgo has misinterpreted the little niggles in the early stage of a relationship as something else and also has some fear of commitment,.."
Or this;
1.You don't respect her borders.FOUR different times you have admitted to contacting her,after she said ,we're done here.A person who doesn't respect borders,probably doesn't respect other "niggling" issues that have cropped up.You may have thought they were insignificant,but they were obviously tremendously important to her.Not to you,TO HER.
2.If you didn't clear up to her satisifaction,what exacly it was that was mis-interpreted ,then your done.Some things happen and if it sets our radar off,you can forget it.If it was any red ,dark pink flag,we'll heed the warning.
3.Even if it was "small",your reaction to it ,tells us all we need to know about you.Whether is was a postive DNA test from a raving ex or whether you were being a little snippy with the wait staff ,it matters.This tells us how you think of others and how you handle different situations.
4. We have to have chemistry with someone,they have to get us.Either you get us or you don't.The feeling has to hang in the air and surround us.We need to feel safe,be comfortable with your touch,you have to hold ua conversation,that you are available on all levels,but you don't cling.We don't need to wear you like food wrap.
5.You actions or lack there of.(Speak louder than words).
6.Since you touched her alot, she wanted to see if it was just lust or not.Now that sexual tension is off the plate,see above.
No more contact,it proves nothing,she's done.
How you broke up? This is classic Virgo Gal break up 101 = it's not you,it's me.
Why?
"I think this virgo has misinterpreted the little niggles in the early stage of a relationship as something else and also has some fear of commitment,.."
Or this;
1.You don't respect her borders.FOUR different times you have admitted to contacting her,after she said ,we're done here.A person who doesn't respect borders,probably doesn't respect other "niggling" issues that have cropped up.You may have thought they were insignificant,but they were obviously tremendously important to her.Not to you,TO HER.
2.If you didn't clear up to her satisifaction,what exacly it was that was mis-interpreted ,then your done.Some things happen and if it sets our radar off,you can forget it.If it was any red ,dark pink flag,we'll heed the warning.
3.Even if it was "small",your reaction to it ,tells us all we need to know about you.Whether is was a postive DNA test from a raving ex or whether you were being a little snippy with the wait staff ,it matters.This tells us how you think of others and how you handle different situations.
4. We have to have chemistry with someone,they have to get us.Either you get us or you don't.The feeling has to hang in the air and surround us.We need to feel safe,be comfortable with your touch,you have to hold ua conversation,that you are available on all levels,but you don't cling.We don't need to wear you like food wrap.
5.You actions or lack there of.(Speak louder than words).
6.Since you touched her alot, she wanted to see if it was just lust or not.Now that sexual tension is off the plate,see above.
No more contact,it proves nothing,she's done.
No. You will not get an apology. At this point she is feeling ambushed & annoyed because you keep calling. She told you she wants to be friends & that she doesn't feel any chemistry, what kind of closure do you need? The fact that you keep contacting her seems desperate & a bit intrusive. She gave you an answer you wasn't expecting so you're hoping you can get another response. Nope. Ain't gonna happen. I totally get the chemistry bond & if she doesn't feel any...you will always remain in that friend category. I also believe she was trying to be nice about it & let you down easy as opposed to "I'm just not that into you". However; if she does really want to be friends, she'll come around in her own time because if she feels forced, she won't contact you at all. I believe you should eliminate initiating contact & just see what happens. If not, NEXT!
Hey VL! I was reading your post after I had posted mine, & we've mentioned some similar things...& I agree with you. There is no point of being in a relationship that's not working. It makes no sense. It's better to just end it.
Hey RT!I totally agree with your statements.I hate to be "ambushed and annoyed",just hate it .That would tip things back into the not a chance catagory so fast... I mean it's like she said,okay we can still be friends and he looked at his watch and said,"now?us exclusive?,how bout now?Come on,we've been friends for 15 minutes,now?"It's okay Speromelior that you envisioned a different scenerio,but she's not interested in the dream you had for the both of you.
Posted by speromelior
.... she broke up with me, she could say only positives about me and her only explanation was that somehow the chemistry wasn't right for her, she could explain no further and had no specific reason.
It is a person's right to decide who they want to be with. She broke up with you, told you why .. and then deserved to be left alone from you. Instead of accepting that she doesn't choose you as a partner, you bugged/pestered her into anger.
Posted by speromelior
I emailed to tell her this as I didn't want to spring it on her ....
A few days later I emailed her again saying .....
After almost two weeks I felt I really needed to talk to her ...... but she ignored my very reasonably worded text to request she allows me the opportunity to speak to her ....
The next day I text to say am I really asking ....
After 4 or 5 hours I text one last time to say I really don't think I deserve the delete treatment .....
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DUDE ... leave her the fuck alone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You ARE harassing her, there's no borderline to it .. she told you to leave her be and you continue to pester her via emails and texts.
Move the fuck on .. and leave this woman alone.
I've been where this guy is and though I agree that she should be left alone, all the guy wanted to know was an explanation of her reasons. I'm sure the guy just wanted to know what he could improve upon so as to not make the next mistake. Unreasonable? Maybe, maybe not. He might've got his explanation had he accepted her terms of friendship and someday down the road she spilled the beans.
It's kind of like with customers. A business often doesn't know about all of it's weaknesses because more often than not an unhappy customer will avoid confrontation and NOT come forward with their complaint, thus the business continues unaware of it's fallacies. This guy should've consulted a forum before he bombarded her with texts and he might've salvaged a friendship.
It's kind of like with customers. A business often doesn't know about all of it's weaknesses because more often than not an unhappy customer will avoid confrontation and NOT come forward with their complaint, thus the business continues unaware of it's fallacies. This guy should've consulted a forum before he bombarded her with texts and he might've salvaged a friendship.
^^^How much explaining does one need? Are you shitting me? She told him plain & simple I don't feel any chemistry with you. What the hell more is there to explain? Why not? What kind of chemistry? You don't think we've hit it off? How come you just want to be friends? No that would be interrogating & aggravating as fuck, which would make me scratch the idea of even having a friendship at that point.
Re-read the first three lines of the OP's post and tell me a natural feeling of "What the fuck did I do wrong" wouldn't/shouldn't arise. I'm not saying what the guy did was right, I'm just saying I operate in a similar fashion where I apply a "Trial & error" scientific approach to many things in life. If my actions didn't get the desired result, what variable do I have to change to create my perfect outcome.
To be honest, I could quite happily have taken a straightforward your just not for me and moved on relatively happily, no point pursuing things in that situation. What I have found difficult is not getting the opportunity to talk about it at all, if I had been then there would be nothing more to say. I had been very fair in being honest about it and considered how she may feel by not springing it on her by going round when I'd been invited.
I also don't think 3 texts over a 36 hour period was harassment, there was nothing remotely harassing in them, again a simple no at my first request would have been sufficient, no more would have followed. She would also have known that not responding would not sit well with me. I know she saw neither of the emails I sent as unwelcome contact, the responses would support that, and remember one of these was to tell her I didn't want to come for coffee pretending I'm happy just to be friends, the second I try to accept the offer of friendship made in her first response. There were also a number of occasions prior (post break up) where she had initiated contact with me. She had never made any hint or suggestion of unwelcome contact until the final message I received from her. There is no way she will ever get any further contact from me, no way at all. In fact she has made it much easier for me to move on but the hurt of her final response stunned me. That is what I am having trouble getting over.
I did make one mistake though, a big one, I knew she was keen on astrology and considered herself a typical virgo female. I didn't really bother researching these characteristics until after the break up. I think I would have been a better partner for her if I'd taken the time to understand them at the outset and in turn it would have given me a better understanding of her personality. There was maybe a touch of arrogance on my part as once I had her interested I kind of figured my scorpio charms would work their normal magic but they didn't.
Despite everything I would have liked to have kept her as a friend and I am disappointed at how things have turned out. I would never ever consider a relationship with the girl in question now but I don't like any ill feeling. I cannot and will not contact her now she has said this so unless she were to contact me there is no route to salvaging friendship either.
I also don't think 3 texts over a 36 hour period was harassment, there was nothing remotely harassing in them, again a simple no at my first request would have been sufficient, no more would have followed. She would also have known that not responding would not sit well with me. I know she saw neither of the emails I sent as unwelcome contact, the responses would support that, and remember one of these was to tell her I didn't want to come for coffee pretending I'm happy just to be friends, the second I try to accept the offer of friendship made in her first response. There were also a number of occasions prior (post break up) where she had initiated contact with me. She had never made any hint or suggestion of unwelcome contact until the final message I received from her. There is no way she will ever get any further contact from me, no way at all. In fact she has made it much easier for me to move on but the hurt of her final response stunned me. That is what I am having trouble getting over.
I did make one mistake though, a big one, I knew she was keen on astrology and considered herself a typical virgo female. I didn't really bother researching these characteristics until after the break up. I think I would have been a better partner for her if I'd taken the time to understand them at the outset and in turn it would have given me a better understanding of her personality. There was maybe a touch of arrogance on my part as once I had her interested I kind of figured my scorpio charms would work their normal magic but they didn't.
Despite everything I would have liked to have kept her as a friend and I am disappointed at how things have turned out. I would never ever consider a relationship with the girl in question now but I don't like any ill feeling. I cannot and will not contact her now she has said this so unless she were to contact me there is no route to salvaging friendship either.
Posted by RealTalk
^^^How much explaining does one need? Are you shitting me? She told him plain & simple I don't feel any chemistry with you. What the hell more is there to explain? Why not? What kind of chemistry? You don't think we've hit it off? How come you just want to be friends? No that would be interrogating & aggravating as fuck, which would make me scratch the idea of even having a friendship at that point.
She didn't say she didn't feel any chemistry. Also I don't think you get what I was hoping to achieve from talking to her about it, I certainly wasn't planning an interrogation.
In my humble opinion speromelior, you mentioned a tad bit of arrogance and relying on your scorpio charms, and that's what did it in for you. Arrogance is WAY the f up there on our list of turn-offs. Being an earth-sign, we are some of the most down-to-earth people you will meet. Our values, morals, beliefs, conversations and day to day doings are very real and simple. We will generally see a person for who they truly are within minutes of conversation. Arrogance, intolerance, dum-dums, flamboyant, dirty people are all huge turn-offs to us. Considerate, selfless, thoughtfull, engaging, intellectual, sweet, simple, real are all qualities we look for within. Hope any of this helps 😉
Im just going to LMAO at the women being very bias to this poor man. Women do the same thing every day and every sec but they never get beat up on like this poor guy did. Look all men do this at some point in their life and what happen here dude is that you showed her you like her way more than she likes you. NEVER AND I do mean NEVER show a women you like her way more than she likes you. When a women since this no matter the sign they will bounce. Women love challenges they will never admit to that but its true. Thats why you will see the most loyal of women with the biggest douche bags. They love the challenge of domesticating a man.
Posted by OP3CRIMSIN
In my humble opinion speromelior, you mentioned a tad bit of arrogance and relying on your scorpio charms, and that's what did it in for you. Arrogance is WAY the f up there on our list of turn-offs. Being an earth-sign, we are some of the most down-to-earth people you will meet. Our values, morals, beliefs, conversations and day to day doings are very real and simple. We will generally see a person for who they truly are within minutes of conversation. Arrogance, intolerance, dum-dums, flamboyant, dirty people are all huge turn-offs to us. Considerate, selfless, thoughtfull, engaging, intellectual, sweet, simple, real are all qualities we look for within. Hope any of this helps 😉
Actually I think you may have nailed it with the arrogance although I wouldn't say I am arrogant there are occasions where I can be. I do actually possess most of the qualities virgos do look for though. Maybe the little hint of arrogance/complacency was the niggle in the chemistry for her, I don't know.
I have remembered something else I done which may not have helped matters actually. We were watching the News Channel on TV before watching a movie, she was getting really wound up and venting about a story on it and I laughed. She didn't seem too offended but mentioned people at work seemed to think she was funny when worked up like that. Given what I now know of the Virgo traits my reaction may have been very offensive to her and been a sign to her that I didn't get her. This incident was only a couple of days prior to the break up.
There you have it. Important to remember the little things with us especially one's feelings and respecting their opinion. And don't you EVER laugh at us, only with us. 😉
Posted by speromeliorPosted by RealTalk
^^^How much explaining does one need? Are you shitting me? She told him plain & simple I don't feel any chemistry with you. What the hell more is there to explain? Why not? What kind of chemistry? You don't think we've hit it off? How come you just want to be friends? No that would be interrogating & aggravating as fuck, which would make me scratch the idea of even having a friendship at that point.
She didn't say she didn't feel any chemistry. Also I don't think you get what I was hoping to achieve from talking to her about it, I certainly wasn't planning an interrogation.click to expand
Ok, excuse me. She said the chemistry wasn't right. Translation= I don't feel any chemistry with you that I can identify with, which makes this relationship awkward. You may have not of been planning to interogate her, but I'm sure that was in her mind & I'm sure you were planning on asking some questions...right? After she told you what was up, I believe she didn't feel the need to "explain" anything else to you. You may not feel like you are harassing her but to her she thought you would've gotten the hint by not responding & since you didn't & kept contacting, that translated into ok he's getting on my damn nerves now.
Posted by virgoking
Im just going to LMAO at the women being very bias to this poor man. Women do the same thing every day and every sec but they never get beat up on like this poor guy did. Look all men do this at some point in their life and what happen here dude is that you showed her you like her way more than she likes you. NEVER AND I do mean NEVER show a women you like her way more than she likes you. When a women since this no matter the sign they will bounce. Women love challenges they will never admit to that but its true. Thats why you will see the most loyal of women with the biggest douche bags. They love the challenge of domesticating a man.
I totally agreewith you on that virgokin...We do enjoy a great challenge..and when a man seems to clingy,arrogant, or annoyin we jet...I guess that maybe give her time to cool off.so she can get the real impression of who you are...cause if she is thinkin you are like this omg your dead.. if yall do start back conversating then think of a pretty nice jesture to give her...ease back into the friend category..because as her friend she will be able to get to know you better...i dont know if she is still pissed at you or not but i would definately continue to call but id give it about a week and a half...then you will get your answers to why yall couldnt possibly work it out....it is sad that every woman bein so blunt about it...but no one situation is the same..or person...
If you seriously think she is the one then try and be patient to understandin her and how she operates...she said just be friends and you jumped back onto askin her why yall didnt work out (that was ya mistake there ) you were supposed to just go with the flow of things...instead you got back on that next time think twice if you ever get her back again..let her come to you with her feelings....know you dont want to have to wait around on her to make her mind up that she wants all of you , but if you feel she is worth it then just go for what you know
oh yea give her time and being her friend is what you said she intially said...then just do that and dont bring up yall past continue to behave lol cause everyone on here givin it to you blunt about how women operate directly and she sugaured it up a little just cause she tryed to not hurt you as bad
Posted by virgoking
Im just going to LMAO at the women being very bias to this poor man. Women do the same thing every day and every sec but they never get beat up on like this poor guy did. Look all men do this at some point in their life and what happen here dude is that you showed her you like her way more than she likes you. NEVER AND I do mean NEVER show a women you like her way more than she likes you. When a women since this no matter the sign they will bounce. Women love challenges they will never admit to that but its true. Thats why you will see the most loyal of women with the biggest douche bags. They love the challenge of domesticating a man.
On the contrary boo-boo, I can't stand it when a woman does it either. If he were a woman I would say the same shit. Nothing biased here. Where the hell did you come up with that ridiculous concept that a man shouldn't show a woman he likes her? And if he did she'll leave? That's the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard. Ok so meet the woman, like the woman, but don't show her so that she'll eventually fall for me? Weak, soft, insecure boys do dumb shit like that. Not a man. A woman wants a man to protect her, profess his love, & provide for her. Not punch her, play games with her, or pimp her. Oh I guess to you that would be more of a challenge to her right? SMFH.
Posted by 24capgal18
oh yea give her time and being her friend is what you said she intially said...then just do that and dont bring up yall past continue to behave lol cause everyone on here givin it to you blunt about how women operate directly and she sugaured it up a little just cause she tryed to not hurt you as bad
He inquired about a specific woman. A Virgo woman. I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes but I'm just blunt & forward. I don't need to sugar coat anything because that would be fake & I don't do fake. I'm just keepin' 100. He asked. I answered.
Posted by RealTalkPosted by virgoking
Im just going to LMAO at the women being very bias to this poor man. Women do the same thing every day and every sec but they never get beat up on like this poor guy did. Look all men do this at some point in their life and what happen here dude is that you showed her you like her way more than she likes you. NEVER AND I do mean NEVER show a women you like her way more than she likes you. When a women since this no matter the sign they will bounce. Women love challenges they will never admit to that but its true. Thats why you will see the most loyal of women with the biggest douche bags. They love the challenge of domesticating a man.
On the contrary boo-boo, I can't stand it when a woman does it either. If he were a woman I would say the same shit. Nothing biased here. Where the hell did you come up with that ridiculous concept that a man shouldn't show a woman he likes her? And if he did she'll leave? That's the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard. Ok so meet the woman, like the woman, but don't show her so that she'll eventually fall for me? Weak, soft, insecure boys do dumb shit like that. Not a man. A woman wants a man to protect her, profess his love, & provide for her. Not punch her, play games with her, or pimp her. Oh I guess to you that would be more of a challenge to her right? SMFH.click to expand
Becasue it works and you have been here for long time you don't call no women out the only women that call women out on this site is p angel and tiki33 thats it. Now you can show that you care for a women but you can never give them the impression that if she is out of your life your just going to die. Now when a man like a women he naturally gives this impression. But women don't like that impression you may say you do but its not true. Now you might say hey thats playing games well women play the games men just adapts to them thats just how it is. I like how you try to infer im insecure because I tell it like is you must have forgot i'm virgo those games won't work on me.
Did I say you? If you perceive it that way then oh well. No. I don't like it when men play games with me because that's for boys. Not men. I would love for you to show me where I haven't called a broad on her bullshit. I call it like I see it. You have NOT been on every damn thread I have been on so you cannot make that assessment so you don't know what I've said or didn't say. Get off of the Virgo boards much? P-angel & tikki? LMAO! That was a good one.
FOH with that bullshit. You have alot to learn about WOMEN. I see you're used to dealing with girls. Hahahaha..lol.
@virgoking
So are you saying that RealTalk doesn't have the right to give her opinion or "call someone out" as you put it, because she hasn't been here that long, and only P-Angel and Tiki (who neither are Virgo women btw) can, when the OP posed a question about a Virgo woman on the Virgo board?
And I'm not saying that non-Virgo women can't respond to these inquiries, but just trying to understand your logic.
So are you saying that RealTalk doesn't have the right to give her opinion or "call someone out" as you put it, because she hasn't been here that long, and only P-Angel and Tiki (who neither are Virgo women btw) can, when the OP posed a question about a Virgo woman on the Virgo board?
And I'm not saying that non-Virgo women can't respond to these inquiries, but just trying to understand your logic.
Posted by VirgoVixxxen
@virgoking
So are you saying that RealTalk doesn't have the right to give her opinion or "call someone out" as you put it, because she hasn't been here that long, and only P-Angel and Tiki (who neither are Virgo women btw) can, when the OP posed a question about a Virgo woman on the Virgo board?
And I'm not saying that non-Virgo women can't respond to these inquiries, but just trying to understand your logic.
I can tell you just jump into the convo with out reading but ill sum it up for you. Anyone can call who ever they want out I said its funny how women not just real talk will call out a man. For the same bs women do everyday complaining about men. Like women do all the time he moved to fast and scared her off its funny how when a women does that they will get sympathy but not men. And ms so called real say she calls out women all the time when they do the same bs which is a lie she only call women out when she is being attack. I mostly read all the women blogs about why my man left not just the virgo ones because it amuse me. And every time you will see p angle and tiki come in and tell it like it is. Everyone else like to sugar coat it. Now any body can say what ever they feel like im not the dxp god but I will call it like it is every time.
@speromelior
Sorry that it turned out this way.
I too believe that it was your arrogance and her feeling as though you were not "tuned into her" that had to do with her ending the relationship. As for her getting worked up when watching that story on the news, if your honest reaction was to simply laugh, then I don't see a need for you to be vilified (and not saying anyone here did), and I can completley understand you wanting closure and answers as we Virgos sometimes have a way of dropping people like a bad habit with absolutley no explanation whatsoever. This usually happens when we feel misunderstood or unappreciated, mistreated, etc. She still wanted to be friends with you so you weren't wholly out of her good graces, but then may have felt that you contacting her was too much altogether, and sadly enough, when we have our mind made up about something, it's usually a done deal.
Perhaps the real reason she broke up with you was because she truly felt there was a lack of chemistry, or like many a Virgal, chose not to lay out the real reason she broke up with you because we usually don't like confrontation, hate to appear vulnerable or like we're complaining, and like to remain cordial (with exes too), even though we could be deeply hurting over something or a slight (whether perceived or not) that a loved one committed against us.
If afforded the opportunity to chat with her again, you should be diplomatically honest with her. Telling her what you told us about the arrogance and charms. Could maybe melt her resolve and open the door for another go. This will help to clear up any questions or ill perceived ideas she may have in her head (and trust me, there might be many!).
If this is truly the end, then I would say lesson learned?
Sorry that it turned out this way.
I too believe that it was your arrogance and her feeling as though you were not "tuned into her" that had to do with her ending the relationship. As for her getting worked up when watching that story on the news, if your honest reaction was to simply laugh, then I don't see a need for you to be vilified (and not saying anyone here did), and I can completley understand you wanting closure and answers as we Virgos sometimes have a way of dropping people like a bad habit with absolutley no explanation whatsoever. This usually happens when we feel misunderstood or unappreciated, mistreated, etc. She still wanted to be friends with you so you weren't wholly out of her good graces, but then may have felt that you contacting her was too much altogether, and sadly enough, when we have our mind made up about something, it's usually a done deal.
Perhaps the real reason she broke up with you was because she truly felt there was a lack of chemistry, or like many a Virgal, chose not to lay out the real reason she broke up with you because we usually don't like confrontation, hate to appear vulnerable or like we're complaining, and like to remain cordial (with exes too), even though we could be deeply hurting over something or a slight (whether perceived or not) that a loved one committed against us.
If afforded the opportunity to chat with her again, you should be diplomatically honest with her. Telling her what you told us about the arrogance and charms. Could maybe melt her resolve and open the door for another go. This will help to clear up any questions or ill perceived ideas she may have in her head (and trust me, there might be many!).
If this is truly the end, then I would say lesson learned?
You don't know what the fuck I do. I don't have to prove shit to you or anybody else. QUOTE ME THEN since you know so damn much. I don't need to sugar coat shit for nobody because I don't know nor do care about what strangers think on a damn blog. Get real boy.
Posted by virgokingPosted by VirgoVixxxen
@virgoking
So are you saying that RealTalk doesn't have the right to give her opinion or "call someone out" as you put it, because she hasn't been here that long, and only P-Angel and Tiki (who neither are Virgo women btw) can, when the OP posed a question about a Virgo woman on the Virgo board?
And I'm not saying that non-Virgo women can't respond to these inquiries, but just trying to understand your logic.
I can tell you just jump into the convo with out reading but ill sum it up for you. Anyone can call who ever they want out I said its funny how women not just real talk will call out a man. For the same bs women do everyday complaining about men. Like women do all the time he moved to fast and scared her off its funny how when a women does that they will get sympathy but not men. And ms so called real say she calls out women all the time when they do the same bs which is a lie she only call women out when she is being attack. I mostly read all the women blogs about why my man left not just the virgo ones because it amuse me. And every time you will see p angle and tiki come in and tell it like it is. Everyone else like to sugar coat it. Now any body can say what ever they feel like im not the dxp god but I will call it like it is every time.click to expand
Actually, I read the thread in its entirety but I honestly couldn't really understand what you were getting at, but thanks for clarifying.
Speromelior admit it ,this is about control.If it has to end,it ends on your terms and not hers.How dare anyone walk away from your scorpio charms,just unthinkable!
Add this to the list;
7) You started using your "charms",instead of putting honest to God hard work into the relationship to keep the intensity up like it was in the begining.You're just pissed because she doesn't want to carry the whole relationship,using her energy and her soul.Using charms = being lazy about things.--Heh heh ,I reeled her in and I work at this no more.-- Really—
Uh Speromelior 3 times in less than 2 days—Stalking period.This doesn't give her a chance to give you a thoughtful and coherent answer.You knew she was done,but you kept on pressing.You said you weren't going to take what she offered.Nope your terms or nothing.
God ya know,that happens every time.People say,gee look at the harmless and naive Virgo,my new puppet.A new toy,I can bend over whenever I want.We speak up and all of a sudden ,"it" has come to life.She has feelings,thoughts and ideas that aren't in lock step with mine.
She called sometimes first,sure,that is what is suppose to happen,she was trying to figure things out.She had doubts too,she wanted answers from you before she gave up.
So now what you are saying is that everything wasn't fine.That this wasn't the first split,so you really don't think that it is real?Please exam the relationship a little closer then,there should be more clues coming to light from this selective memory you are serving up to us.
All ^^^ is a definite chemistry killer.You want her to explain herself,like she screwed up on a work report and that she should fix this ,so you can walk away ,saying,yeah it was her and not you?You want closure for your comfort and liking?You want to feel like you did nothing wrong,that she just didn't understand the"Scorpio Charm"? So you want her to validate you,so that you don't need to do self examination and therefore you wouldn't need to change a thing about you ,your habits or tendancies?You can't accept that YOU weren't right for her!You want your arrogance to remain safely intact.
She's done.She's finally done with you.It is over.That is a fact.She doesn't owe you anything.Not a thing.She doesn't owe you a break up that suits you or your needs.She was trying to be polite at first,but had to be a nut crusher in the end.To a Virgal goodbye means goodbye.Dab your wounds and go.
Add this to the list;
7) You started using your "charms",instead of putting honest to God hard work into the relationship to keep the intensity up like it was in the begining.You're just pissed because she doesn't want to carry the whole relationship,using her energy and her soul.Using charms = being lazy about things.--Heh heh ,I reeled her in and I work at this no more.-- Really—
Uh Speromelior 3 times in less than 2 days—Stalking period.This doesn't give her a chance to give you a thoughtful and coherent answer.You knew she was done,but you kept on pressing.You said you weren't going to take what she offered.Nope your terms or nothing.
God ya know,that happens every time.People say,gee look at the harmless and naive Virgo,my new puppet.A new toy,I can bend over whenever I want.We speak up and all of a sudden ,"it" has come to life.She has feelings,thoughts and ideas that aren't in lock step with mine.
She called sometimes first,sure,that is what is suppose to happen,she was trying to figure things out.She had doubts too,she wanted answers from you before she gave up.
So now what you are saying is that everything wasn't fine.That this wasn't the first split,so you really don't think that it is real?Please exam the relationship a little closer then,there should be more clues coming to light from this selective memory you are serving up to us.
All ^^^ is a definite chemistry killer.You want her to explain herself,like she screwed up on a work report and that she should fix this ,so you can walk away ,saying,yeah it was her and not you?You want closure for your comfort and liking?You want to feel like you did nothing wrong,that she just didn't understand the"Scorpio Charm"? So you want her to validate you,so that you don't need to do self examination and therefore you wouldn't need to change a thing about you ,your habits or tendancies?You can't accept that YOU weren't right for her!You want your arrogance to remain safely intact.
She's done.She's finally done with you.It is over.That is a fact.She doesn't owe you anything.Not a thing.She doesn't owe you a break up that suits you or your needs.She was trying to be polite at first,but had to be a nut crusher in the end.To a Virgal goodbye means goodbye.Dab your wounds and go.
^^^ROTFL at that last line!!! LOL!!! Sad realization, but it's true.
Posted by RealTalk
You don't know what the fuck I do. I don't have to prove shit to you or anybody else. QUOTE ME THEN since you know so damn much. I don't need to sugar coat shit for nobody because I don't know nor do care about what strangers think on a damn blog. Get real boy.
How am I suppose to quote something you didn't do..... yawn
Since this astrology site whats your chart and what's her chart if you have your birth time that would help and the city you was born in. Maybe the stars can explain where you went wrong.
Posted by virgokingPosted by RealTalk
You don't know what the fuck I do. I don't have to prove shit to you or anybody else. QUOTE ME THEN since you know so damn much. I don't need to sugar coat shit for nobody because I don't know nor do care about what strangers think on a damn blog. Get real boy.
How am I suppose to quote something you didn't do..... yawnclick to expand
Exactly asswhole. But I'm lying though? LMAO...this is a waste of time conversing with someone liike you. You're obviously an idiot who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, who's bitching about shit he doesn't have evidence to support. Hahahahaha...are you sure you're not a woman?
Posted by virgoking
I can tell you just jump into the convo with out reading but ill sum it up for you. Anyone can call who ever they want out I said its funny how women not just real talk will call out a man. For the same bs women do everyday complaining about men. Like women do all the time he moved to fast and scared her off its funny how when a women does that they will get sympathy but not men. And ms so called real say she calls out women all the time when they do the same bs which is a lie she only call women out when she is being attack. I mostly read all the women blogs about why my man left not just the virgo ones because it amuse me. And every time you will see p angle and tiki come in and tell it like it is. Everyone else like to sugar coat it. Now any body can say what ever they feel like im not the dxp god but I will call it like it is every time.
Please don't generalize.This guys come in and ask what went wrong with them and their particular VIRGO woman.We tell them.
As a Virgo and as a women we see have an insight that men don't That's a fact.
You are talking about 2 posters that ARE NOT VIRGO WOMEN.I didn't say anything about their style ,input or where they should or should not post.You,however are sending message that we as Virgo women are not capable of giving answers and that our opinions are invalid.You are also saying that you are not happy with our way of expressing ourselves.Everyone is entitled to their very own style and thoughts,Virgo Woman or not.If you are not happy with our style .Simple.Block us.
I am not in every thread,I am not telling people what they want to hear and I will not be changing my approach.It's not your worry.I bet if you had your way that women shouldn't have the right to vote or work outside the home.I've seen what you've said about your relationship with your woman.She may give you answers that you like,feel comfortable or expect.Are you thinking one day,she may start giving you answers that you may not care for?We aren't going to answer as she does,or as you think any other Woman of the Zodiac should,this is what dialouge is al about and what makes life interesting.
Certain women ask for Virgo mans' opinions,we don't invalidate your experiences,we have never been Virgo men.Some women will return and request things that we can not grant.Some women will not respond to our Virgo Women queries,and only to the me
n and that is fine also.
As Virgo Women we may have had some of these experiences and can specifically speak to a certain person.So our answers aren't glib ,thoughtless or without a history of some sort to make our statements from.We mainatian our individuality from our other 11 sisters of the Zodiac,that is our charm,that is our voice and our stance.
We are not here to minimize your experience or opinion,we would appreciate the same courtesy from you.Everyone has a right to their voice and thoughts.We each bring to the table our experiences and cultural morays.This is what sometimes makes one person resonate with another.Sometimes,people need to hear something as a opposed to what they want to hear,or we'd all be speaking with one voice.Good Luck and Go in Peace VK. -VL
As Virgo Women we may have had some of these experiences and can specifically speak to a certain person.So our answers aren't glib ,thoughtless or without a history of some sort to make our statements from.We mainatian our individuality from our other 11 sisters of the Zodiac,that is our charm,that is our voice and our stance.
We are not here to minimize your experience or opinion,we would appreciate the same courtesy from you.Everyone has a right to their voice and thoughts.We each bring to the table our experiences and cultural morays.This is what sometimes makes one person resonate with another.Sometimes,people need to hear something as a opposed to what they want to hear,or we'd all be speaking with one voice.Good Luck and Go in Peace VK. -VL
Posted by VulcanLassPosted by virgoking
I can tell you just jump into the convo with out reading but ill sum it up for you. Anyone can call who ever they want out I said its funny how women not just real talk will call out a man. For the same bs women do everyday complaining about men. Like women do all the time he moved to fast and scared her off its funny how when a women does that they will get sympathy but not men. And ms so called real say she calls out women all the time when they do the same bs which is a lie she only call women out when she is being attack. I mostly read all the women blogs about why my man left not just the virgo ones because it amuse me. And every time you will see p angle and tiki come in and tell it like it is. Everyone else like to sugar coat it. Now any body can say what ever they feel like im not the dxp god but I will call it like it is every time.click to expand
Please don't generalize.This guys come in and ask what went wrong with them and their particular VIRGO woman.We tell them.
As a Virgo and as a women we see have an insight that men don't That's a fact.
You are talking about 2 posters that ARE NOT VIRGO WOMEN.I didn't say anything about their style ,input or where they should or should not post.You,however are sending message that we as Virgo women are not capable of giving answers and that our opinions are invalid.You are also saying that you are not happy with our way of expressing ourselves.Everyone is entitled to their very own style and thoughts,Virgo Woman or not.If you are not happy with our style .Simple.Block us.
I am not in every thread,I am not telling people what they want to hear and I will not be changing my approach.It's not your worry.I bet if you had your way that women shouldn't have the right to vote or work outside the home.I've seen what you've said about your relationship with your woman.She may give you answers that you like,feel comfortable or expect.Are you thinking one day,she may start giving you answers that you may not care for?We aren't going to answer as she does,or as you think any other Woman of the Zodiac should,this is what dialouge is al about and what makes life interesting.
Certain women ask for Virgo mans' opinions,we don't invalidate your experiences,we have never been Virgo men.Some women will return and request things that
AGAIN maybe virgo women have reading comp problems if your going to do one for women do it for men as well. But back to what I was originally talking about women in general you guys AND I mean women in general not just virgo women. Like to call out men but not women when they do the same bs. You can try to play with words but its not going to work on me or change the facts. Maybe p angle was right about virgo women......... NO NO It can't be im pretend I didn't say that.
Posted by RealTalkPosted by virgokingPosted by RealTalk
You don't know what the fuck I do. I don't have to prove shit to you or anybody else. QUOTE ME THEN since you know so damn much. I don't need to sugar coat shit for nobody because I don't know nor do care about what strangers think on a damn blog. Get real boy.
How am I suppose to quote something you didn't do..... yawn
Exactly asswhole. But I'm lying though? LMAO...this is a waste of time conversing with someone liike you. You're obviously an idiot who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, who's bitching about shit he doesn't have evidence to support. Hahahahaha...are you sure you're not a woman?click to expand
Your obviously dumb stupid bit ch that got all butt hurt bc you got call out for stupid h o e you are
The point is you never go after men so how am I going to quote that you idiot
Posted by virgoking
AGAIN maybe virgo women have reading comp problems if your going to do one for women do it for men as well. But back to what I was originally talking about women in general you guys AND I mean women in general not just virgo women. Like to call out men but not women when they do the same bs. You can try to play with words but its not going to work on me or change the facts. Maybe p angle was right about virgo women......... NO NO It can't be im pretend I didn't say that.
No, P-Angel wasn't right about anything.
Listen, vk, I'm not trying to hurt your feelings or anything here, but I gotta tell ya, your writing and grammar is pretty poor, hence the reason we couldn't understand what you were saying in the first place. Sorry.
Learn to express yourself more clearly and use punctuation marks and maybe then what you are saying won't be misconstrued.
Posted by virgokingPosted by RealTalkPosted by virgokingPosted by RealTalk
You don't know what the fuck I do. I don't have to prove shit to you or anybody else. QUOTE ME THEN since you know so damn much. I don't need to sugar coat shit for nobody because I don't know nor do care about what strangers think on a damn blog. Get real boy.
How am I suppose to quote something you didn't do..... yawn
Exactly asswhole. But I'm lying though? LMAO...this is a waste of time conversing with someone liike you. You're obviously an idiot who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, who's bitching about shit he doesn't have evidence to support. Hahahahaha...are you sure you're not a woman?
Your obviously dumb stupid bit ch that got all butt hurt bc you got call out for stupid h o e you areclick to expand
Looks like you're the one that's ass hurt you bitch ass mother fucker. Why don't you spell check before you throw out insults you soft ass dyke-looking bitch. Go stick a dick in your ass & in your mouth you Fucken homo. You look like you have on lip gloss you lil' pussy ass whimp. Why don't you go pucker up on a faggot's ass. Shit, he's more man than you are. I know I'm a bitch...sadly you don't. Punk ass lil' scrub.
Oh & BTW, what the fuck did you call me out on fool? YOU DON'T HAVE A FUCKEN CLUE you lil' stupid prick.
Posted by RealTalkPosted by virgokingPosted by RealTalkPosted by virgokingPosted by RealTalk
You don't know what the fuck I do. I don't have to prove shit to you or anybody else. QUOTE ME THEN since you know so damn much. I don't need to sugar coat shit for nobody because I don't know nor do care about what strangers think on a damn blog. Get real boy.
How am I suppose to quote something you didn't do..... yawn
Exactly asswhole. But I'm lying though? LMAO...this is a waste of time conversing with someone liike you. You're obviously an idiot who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, who's bitching about shit he doesn't have evidence to support. Hahahahaha...are you sure you're not a woman?
Your obviously dumb stupid bit ch that got all butt hurt bc you got call out for stupid h o e you are
Looks like you're the one that's ass hurt you bitch ass mother fucker. Why don't you spell check before you throw out insults you soft ass dyke-looking bitch. Go stick a dick in your ass & in your mouth you Fucken homo. You look like you have on lip gloss you lil' pussy ass whimp. Why don't you go pucker up on a faggot's ass. Shit, he's more man than you are. I know I'm a bitch...sadly you don't. Punk ass lil' scrub.click to expand
LOL That is big talk for someone so ugly It makes since you don't have a pic you are as ugly as you type. No one ever mention you in the first place and you try to butt your head in like you do in every thread like your some internet gangster or something more like internet hoe. Your the one that made it nasty not me.
Oh I know you are not going there...ugly? I don't have a pic up because that's my damn business NOT TO. Ugly? You look like the inside of a possums ear, don't worry about why the fuck I don't have a pic of myself up. See...you're proving my point by how much of a bitch you are because you're arguing & bating just like hood rat broad. ROTFL!!!! You're funny as hell!!! You don't know me so your pathetic ass comments are dust to me. It's funny to see how pissed you you're getting like a little scared girl. Hahahahaha!!!!! I bet you were picked on in school right? All the guys punked you huh? You can tell me, it'll be our secret *whispering* I won't tell...LMAO!! Don't worry, it's ok to be soft, hey look at the bright side huh? Gay marriage is legal. 😄
LMAO @ "it makes since". Hahahahahaha!! You're a riot!!!!!
Posted by virgoking
AGAIN maybe virgo women have reading comp problems if your going to do one for women do it for men as well. But back to what I was originally talking about women in general you guys AND I mean women in general not just virgo women. Like to call out men but not women when they do the same bs. You can try to play with words but its not going to work on me or change the facts. Maybe p angle was right about virgo women... NO NO It can't be im pretend I didn't say that.
I'm on it VV;
Again,maybe Virgo women have reading comprehension problems.If you are going to comment on womens' issues,then comments on mens' as well.(?)
But back to what I was originally talking about which was women in general and not just Virgo women.They like to call out men on their particular behavior but not the women and their actions.Men and women are both capable of poor decision making.
Your semantics aren't needed or warranted in this forum.This will not alter my opinion or change the facts as they appear to me.Maybe,P Angel was correct about Virgo women.No,no,it can't be!I' am going to pretend that I didn't say that.
Is this the gist of what he was saying?
Well VK,I personally do not the time nor inclination to randomly hop into every relationship thread there is on this forum.As these people come to the Virgo forum asking Virgo women about their thought or post mortem of a relationship. We may answer them.As you know,some people do not offer up details or actions that they may have done which may have contributed to the demise of the relationship.More answers are sometimes needed to give the comprehensive and helpful answer to aid the OP.
If you have reviewed some of the past posts,we women have made commentary on womens' posts as well.However,with some returning posters,they have not chosen to have a discussion with us or have not even acknowledged our comments.Obviously,they weren't interested in our line of reasoning or suggestions.If they don't wish to respond,that is fine as well.
In the future,please endeavor be more productive to the posters instead of verballly scuffling with the female counterparts of your sign.As you see,you have tried to derail the OPs' query without a maxium amount of success.Maybe that could be a thread unto itself-The answers women give;how they have touched upon my own insecurities.Thanks for playing along tho'.
Posted by VirgoVixxxen
@speromelior
Virgos sometimes have a way of dropping people like a bad habit with absolutley no explanation whatsoever. This usually happens when we feel misunderstood or unappreciated, mistreated, etc. She still wanted to be friends with you so you weren't wholly out of her good graces, but then may have felt that you contacting her was too much altogether, and sadly enough, when we have our mind made up about something, it's usually a done deal.
This is a good explanation in my opinion.
From my experience in dealing with a Virgo woman
1.They will put up with an outburst or two from u, if it becomes a habitual thing they will start to question if they should be in the relationship or not. They start beginning their pre-breakup rituals and at that point you better change or they will break up with when u are least expecting it and your most vulnerable time.(I am a Cancer I feel Virgos can be just as calculatingly cold as we can be).
2.Once a Virgo is done with you, they are done, nothing can change this.In their mind they still see you as a the same person but just being nice so u can get back with them. Maybe alot of time can fix this,which usually gives a person enough time to change thought patterns and habits.(Hopefully there is a guy who has tried this method with a Virgo woman to see if it works or if its just a waste of time).
3.A Virgo woman can act clingy towards you, but its a fine line how you present your clingyness to them during the relationship. It has to be at the right times and sincere.(Going into clingy mode during the breakup turns you into stalker material to them, they will file that restraining order quicker than a dog can trot if u press them for answers, thats just how they think).
Also to the OP, you can't change how she feels about you. You just got to move on and meet new people and learn from your mistakes you made with her.I know this is hard,considering how difficult it is to get over a Virgo when u like them so much. You can easily forget about them as they sorta forgot about you if you meet someone else and move on.
@HighTide
As cold and un-flinching as we can be, we are also pretty sensitive souls. We feel things very deeply, are aware that people often try to control us and take us for granted because we appear so innocent and meek. We won't put up with manipulation and games for too long, if at all. We dig our heels in and stand our ground.
When we drop you, we don't forget about you completely (we are still human). We can actually hold a torch for a kicked-to-the-curb loved one for years, but love is not enough to keep us in a relationship riddled with abuse (that's for many of us). We are not dumping you so much as what we are dumping is the baggage, the pain, un-fixable problems...
If we decide to give you a second chance, it's because you have demonstrated to us that you are changed or are making a conscious effort to do so, and even then we will re-enter slowly and cautiously.
We don't do messy break-ups. Quickly and precisely is our MO. This way there's not a whole lot of blood to clean up. Operatic dramatic endings is not our style . You go your way, I'll go mine. We're simple folk like that. No need for all the hoot'n and hollering, and we damn sure don't want any emotional scenes.
As cold and un-flinching as we can be, we are also pretty sensitive souls. We feel things very deeply, are aware that people often try to control us and take us for granted because we appear so innocent and meek. We won't put up with manipulation and games for too long, if at all. We dig our heels in and stand our ground.
When we drop you, we don't forget about you completely (we are still human). We can actually hold a torch for a kicked-to-the-curb loved one for years, but love is not enough to keep us in a relationship riddled with abuse (that's for many of us). We are not dumping you so much as what we are dumping is the baggage, the pain, un-fixable problems...
If we decide to give you a second chance, it's because you have demonstrated to us that you are changed or are making a conscious effort to do so, and even then we will re-enter slowly and cautiously.
We don't do messy break-ups. Quickly and precisely is our MO. This way there's not a whole lot of blood to clean up. Operatic dramatic endings is not our style . You go your way, I'll go mine. We're simple folk like that. No need for all the hoot'n and hollering, and we damn sure don't want any emotional scenes.
Posted by VirgoVixxxen
We are not dumping you so much as what we are dumping is the baggage, the pain, un-fixable problems...
That seems to make the most logical sense. I think some tend to take it as a hit on the self worth as a human being. It makes sense when a Virgo explains their though pattern,but when you don't have that, a Virgo can make you feel like the most unattractive person on earth when they break up with you.You think that person is saying "I got to know you as a person and your dreadful like the plague,expect a similar response from other women who got this far". Maybe they do this to get you to really change and see what you messed up on. I am fine with Johnny go to your room and think about what you did, but How Soon Is Now?, like that song from the Smiths. Which I listened to alot during my breakup with my Virgo.
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