I am curious because this has always been an issue all my life. Do all Virgo's find them saayyy 51 percent of the time being somebodies savior, helper, problem solver more times than none to complete strangers and friends, To better explain myself. Have you gone out to the shopping anywhere (supermarket, clothes, etc) and happen to have someone just come up to you and start conversations. Only to end up in a weird situation where you giving a person a ride to their destination, helping them pick out something, helping them carry their stuff to their car. Or you have a friend, lets say you just met a friend. Maybe, that person is going through something and (maybe all the damn ppl u meet) and your giving support and everyway even letting someone come stay with you even if you've known them for a short of time or for a while. Basically, is it a Virgo thing to be subservient or just to damn nice—?
Virgo's the server?
bumpit up to 90 pecent,yes its a vIrgo thing

It's a Virgo thing to be subserviant ... it is also a Virgo thing to feel "woe is me" for doing it.
What a Virgo doesn't realize and probably needs to ...... this serving is done 80% of the time without being asked, so the woeing is me for it, isn't coming from the place the Virg thinks it is .. because this service is self-initiated in most instances.
It's absolutely countless ... the amount of times I've seen Virgo do "something" because the VIRGO wants to do it for him/her self to make the self feel good, when this "something" didn't mean anything to the other person because it wasn't needed or wanted.
So, if the deed wasn't asked for, or wasn't needed ... then it isn't a service for the other at all, it's a self-service so the Virgo can feel like It did something.
What a Virgo doesn't realize and probably needs to ...... this serving is done 80% of the time without being asked, so the woeing is me for it, isn't coming from the place the Virg thinks it is .. because this service is self-initiated in most instances.
It's absolutely countless ... the amount of times I've seen Virgo do "something" because the VIRGO wants to do it for him/her self to make the self feel good, when this "something" didn't mean anything to the other person because it wasn't needed or wanted.
So, if the deed wasn't asked for, or wasn't needed ... then it isn't a service for the other at all, it's a self-service so the Virgo can feel like It did something.
P Angels comment could not be farther from the truth. you basically just explain pisces not virgo. Virgos are very subservient people with a natural knack for helping and maybe even an aura of the servant that draws ppl in to ask them for help. but they are always very good and very strong about it. never will a virgo put down their composure and begin to complain about feeling used or feeling overly stressed for helping someone. Virgo is NOT an easily stressed sign, we can go the distance and we can go it with the weight of the worlds on our back. We may have our moments but who doesnt? Also, virgo criticism may intervene with this composure and sometimes they will criticize whomever it is they are helping/helped out.. which may appear like theyre acting all "woe is me" like you say. And also polar opposite signs adopt traits from one another at random times, so those moments youve noticed could be the pisces energy interacting with the virgo's.
Naturally though, that is not very Virgo at all.
Naturally though, that is not very Virgo at all.

Example 1 about the mall is not me.
Example 2 about the friend is me.
I live to please.
Example 2 about the friend is me.
I live to please.
well base on my experience....... my virgo is like that also..... born to BE A SERVER...wants to help people in need...

Um....no!! If a stranger came up to me and already asking favors, he's worth contacting again in my back....like I said again, "Don't do shyt for the homies!"

Posted by P-Angel
It's a Virgo thing to be subserviant ... it is also a Virgo thing to feel "woe is me" for doing it.
What a Virgo doesn't realize and probably needs to ...... this serving is done 80% of the time without being asked, so the woeing is me for it, isn't coming from the place the Virg thinks it is .. because this service is self-initiated in most instances.
It's absolutely countless ... the amount of times I've seen Virgo do "something" because the VIRGO wants to do it for him/her self to make the self feel good, when this "something" didn't mean anything to the other person because it wasn't needed or wanted.
So, if the deed wasn't asked for, or wasn't needed ... then it isn't a service for the other at all, it's a self-service so the Virgo can feel like It did something.
exactly!

Posted by zen
P Angels comment could not be farther from the truth.
Actually, what I said was the exact truth.
Virgos serve for themselves to feel good. They don't do it for the other person, for the other person doesn't "need" to be served. Believe it or not you Virgos, the rest of us can actually fend for ourselves without needing to be served.
If you do it, it is nice, and we appreciate it, but again .... Virgos serve for their own sake, so that they may feel as though they are of service to another .. and this is for the Virgo's own sake of feeling good.

For example .. look at the OP ...
"gone out to the shopping anywhere (supermarket, clothes, etc) and happen to have someone just come up to you and start conversations. Only to end up in a weird situation where you giving a person a ride to their destination, helping them pick out something, helping them carry their stuff to their car."
In the above situation, Virgos have responded that yes indeed this is true. The Virgo is looking at it from the perspective of the deed of service, in itself and not really the scenerio.
It's a complete stranger, and you are giving them a ride, carrying their shit for them.
That's not a person in need of you .... it's a user and you're the sucker .. but, it makes YOU feel good about yourself to be that sucker ... calling it being of service to someone who needs you.
That is plain as day !!!!!!!!
"gone out to the shopping anywhere (supermarket, clothes, etc) and happen to have someone just come up to you and start conversations. Only to end up in a weird situation where you giving a person a ride to their destination, helping them pick out something, helping them carry their stuff to their car."
In the above situation, Virgos have responded that yes indeed this is true. The Virgo is looking at it from the perspective of the deed of service, in itself and not really the scenerio.
It's a complete stranger, and you are giving them a ride, carrying their shit for them.
That's not a person in need of you .... it's a user and you're the sucker .. but, it makes YOU feel good about yourself to be that sucker ... calling it being of service to someone who needs you.
That is plain as day !!!!!!!!

sekhmet - i think what's she's saying is that there's no "balance" to begin with. rendering help with "expectations" isn't help at all.
if you knew that someone helping you put your groceries in your car came with strings attached, wouldn't you have put the bags in the car yourself?
it's not that the help isn't appreciated but you didn't need it in the first place. lifting 2-5lb bags and placing them in your trunk is more about the virgo than it is about you.
if you knew that someone helping you put your groceries in your car came with strings attached, wouldn't you have put the bags in the car yourself?
it's not that the help isn't appreciated but you didn't need it in the first place. lifting 2-5lb bags and placing them in your trunk is more about the virgo than it is about you.
lol you're an idiot.

this is the second post within about a month of someone asking about virgos "helping" too much.
if you actually read P-Angel's post, there's wisdom in it. she's married to a Virgo isn't she? maybe you could learn something from her instead of immediately dismissing what she has to say?
for virgos who feel that you give too much and receive little recognition/reward...
1) recognize that you get joy out of helping others...at times, to your own detriment.
2) when rendering aid, ask yourself, "do i expect something in return?" if so, have the courtesy to share your expectations..."remember, i'm helping you paint today but you're gonna help me weed my garden tomorrow right?"
3) don't assume need. just because you happened to come over on "paint day" and "divined" from the buckets that you needed to pick up a paint brush, doesn't mean your help was actually needed. it's appreciated but if you choose to offer aid, that's your choice. a cold drink, food or thank you is sufficient repayment.
4) don't assume helplessness. just because you're being allowed to help doesn't mean the person you're helping is incapable of doing it alone or that your way is better or more efficient. in other words, the living room would've gotten painted with/without you.
5) you're owed nothing. do not file this event away as a "favor owed to me by..." you helped, they said thank you, the end.
6) learn to ask for help. if you desire aid or want company during a project, ASK FOR IT! just because you're able to "divine" from paint buckets, doesn't mean your friends do the same. remember, they didn't NEED your help painting. you volunteered. if you NEED their help with an activity, don't get offended because they didn't readily offer. just ask for help.
7) find worthwhile "giving" outlets. volunteer at a non-profit organization or hospital, become a little league coach, adopt-a-highway, visit the elderly in nursing homes...stop seeking your "help" fix by giving strangers rides home (which is crazy/dangerous). there are people who truly need you. help them and you'll feel and be appreciated.
every Virgo response has been about justifying Virgo behavior that makes depletes the Virgo...that's idiotic but i wouldn't expect virgo to notice. they're far too busy self-inflicting wounds 😛
if you actually read P-Angel's post, there's wisdom in it. she's married to a Virgo isn't she? maybe you could learn something from her instead of immediately dismissing what she has to say?
for virgos who feel that you give too much and receive little recognition/reward...
1) recognize that you get joy out of helping others...at times, to your own detriment.
2) when rendering aid, ask yourself, "do i expect something in return?" if so, have the courtesy to share your expectations..."remember, i'm helping you paint today but you're gonna help me weed my garden tomorrow right?"
3) don't assume need. just because you happened to come over on "paint day" and "divined" from the buckets that you needed to pick up a paint brush, doesn't mean your help was actually needed. it's appreciated but if you choose to offer aid, that's your choice. a cold drink, food or thank you is sufficient repayment.
4) don't assume helplessness. just because you're being allowed to help doesn't mean the person you're helping is incapable of doing it alone or that your way is better or more efficient. in other words, the living room would've gotten painted with/without you.
5) you're owed nothing. do not file this event away as a "favor owed to me by..." you helped, they said thank you, the end.
6) learn to ask for help. if you desire aid or want company during a project, ASK FOR IT! just because you're able to "divine" from paint buckets, doesn't mean your friends do the same. remember, they didn't NEED your help painting. you volunteered. if you NEED their help with an activity, don't get offended because they didn't readily offer. just ask for help.
7) find worthwhile "giving" outlets. volunteer at a non-profit organization or hospital, become a little league coach, adopt-a-highway, visit the elderly in nursing homes...stop seeking your "help" fix by giving strangers rides home (which is crazy/dangerous). there are people who truly need you. help them and you'll feel and be appreciated.
every Virgo response has been about justifying Virgo behavior that makes depletes the Virgo...that's idiotic but i wouldn't expect virgo to notice. they're far too busy self-inflicting wounds 😛

^^^ that depletes the Virgo 😛

nope, you arien selfishness balances you out but if you want to send me a 100 euro, i'd gladly accept as it would really help me out.
Nope I think P has it right again, and from what I've read through these forums she tends to be spot on whether we virgo like it or not. I've had a few dealings with P on an old name I can't remember the bloody user name for, but as blunt as she is hits the nail we don't like! It makes me think alot P so keep it up as I'm sure you will, it sure makes things interesting!

oh sleep with him already 😉
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