queeneemy
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He says he only wants to be friends but keeps flirting.
Posted by Phantom_Dangus
So, the only thing that has changed is that he told you he just wants to be friends.
https://www.dxpnet.com/taurus-forum/how-do-you-know-if-a-taurus-venus-likes-you--13029499/
No. We went on more dates, we fought with each other, we didn't speak for 2 weeks, he was jealous of me talking to another guy, he was trying to make me jealous, his best friend told me he didn't know I was interested in him after they talked about me 'cause my sister told me they talked about me and he was flirting like crazy after I told him I was interested in him.
But seriously, if you just came here to judge me because I created another thread, you shouldn't have bothered. I'm seriously looking for help here.
Posted by Phantom_Dangus
So, the only thing that has changed is that he told you he just wants to be friends.
https://www.dxpnet.com/taurus-forum/how-do-you-know-if-a-taurus-venus-likes-you--13029499/
And I also told him straight out clear that I don't do hook ups and that I will never have sex with a guy that I'm not in a committed relationship with and I told him "If you ever change your mind, you know where to find me". And he texted after that.
Help with WHAT exactly? If he SAYS that he wants you two to "just" be friends, hasn't made a MOVE to kiss you, COURT you, or WIN you over, then what really is there to be helped?
His jealousy means NOTHING if he's not putting in the WORK to be the man in your life. Simple. And you two have already argued and stopped speaking for two weeks and you're not even dating yet? Hmmm. You may need some NEW options.
His jealousy means NOTHING if he's not putting in the WORK to be the man in your life. Simple. And you two have already argued and stopped speaking for two weeks and you're not even dating yet? Hmmm. You may need some NEW options.
Posted by ClairDeLune
I wouldnt give a guy who doesnt have the balls to say what he wants any time. It just starts to turn into mind games and assumptions and later on heartache or confusion. If he wants you, he needs to assure it otherwise it's just guess play. You deserve someone who can say what he wants
I agree with this!! ☝️☝️
Seeing I'm in similar situation but without the fighting, I fully agree with the above comment. We deserve someone who will speak up and fully goes for us.
Mine is wishy washy aswell... expressed his feelings in a drunk state and now back to silence again. Today I told him that I do not deserve this behaviour and that he needs to let me know what it is that he actually wants from me. Sometimes we need to be very direct with the other person about what we do or do not deserve and expect from them.
Posted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_Dangus
So, the only thing that has changed is that he told you he just wants to be friends.
https://www.dxpnet.com/taurus-forum/how-do-you-know-if-a-taurus-venus-likes-you--13029499/
No. We went on more dates, we fought with each other, we didn't speak for 2 weeks, he was jealous of me talking to another guy, he was trying to make me jealous, his best friend told me he didn't know I was interested in him after they talked about me 'cause my sister told me they talked about me and he was flirting like crazy after I told him I was interested in him.
But seriously, if you just came here to judge me because I created another thread, you shouldn't have bothered. I'm seriously looking for help here.click to expand
Remember! It’s a free help you looking for. If you went to a shrink and they have you any bullshit for your money you could bitch.
Here you can’t. All you can is to wait until someone who actually CARES to help will post.
In a meantime...wait and pray.
Everyone is going to post whatever they like regardless of your wishes and wants. Get used to it.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_Dangus
So, the only thing that has changed is that he told you he just wants to be friends.
https://www.dxpnet.com/taurus-forum/how-do-you-know-if-a-taurus-venus-likes-you--13029499/
And I also told him straight out clear that I don't do hook ups and that I will never have sex with a guy that I'm not in a committed relationship with and I told him "If you ever change your mind, you know where to find me". And he texted after that.
Yes, I was being a smartass. Sorry.
There are a lot of questions people will ask that could get cleared up easy. He's a Gemini sun. He is just getting over a past relationship.
I think he likes you fine, but he's not serious or even ready to get serious.click to expand
I appreciate that. Thank you. He has his sun in Gemini but he also has venus in taurus. And honestly, I know a lot of geminis, been in love with another gemini before, one of my best friends is a gemini and the only gemini trait I see in him is that he likes to tell a lot of jokes and talk a lot and be "the funny guy". Well, now I'm going to tell you why he hasn't kissed me yet. Because THAT I know. So, he had a condition, like, a health condition a couple of years back, that damaged his teeth. Like, really bad. They're in a pretty bad state. I was slightly bothered by it in the beginning because I thought it was pure lack of oral care or even substance abuse. When I learned what it was about, I wanted to give him a chance 'cause there's more to him than his teeth, right? And it's not even his fault. He came here to work for the summer to get the money to fix his teeth in our home country. I know that because my brother in law told me that. And when we were at my place the other day, he told me, completely out of the blue that he was going to get his teeth fixed. So, he's afraid of needles and hasn't set foot at a doctor's office in years. But he's doing it now. He has to have some kind of insecurity because of that. He may think that I don't want him to kiss me. When he left, we started texting and he told me "I thought you were going to kiss me" and I said "I thought you were going to kiss me too" and he said "I didn't want you to think that I was in your place with bad intentions". Today he was trying to make me jealous again saying he's going out for dinner tomorrow. What he doesn't know is that I know he's going for dinner with my sister and her boyfriend so I completely shrugged it off. And that's when he said he only wanted to be friends and didn't want me to get the wrong idea and two minutes later he was asking me for a massage. And I was like "Yeah... I can give you a massage, we're friends now so there's no danger of one of us getting the wrong idea" and he was like "It's still dangerous, I don't know what can happen after that". Also, people at my sister's restaurant like to make jokes about us and we were talking about that the other day and he said "No one has nothing to do with our life." Like... he said OUR life. Seriously, the reason why we fought is because he said he wanted me to introduce him to some of my friends. But he said that in a very disgusting way. He was testing me and instead of getting the reaction he wanted, I just blew up! I figured out he was testing me because when we talked again two weeks later, he said the exact same thing and that's when my brother in law told me he wanted a reaction from me and to tell him I was interested. So, today when he told me he wanted to be friends I told him "You know, I have a party next week, I can introduce you to my friends like you wanted" And he was like "That was only a joke". Seriously, can't this be another kind of test he's doing because of his insecurities? You must think I'm crazy because I'm still not over this guy but... this is just how it is. I tried to get over him after our "fight". I even deleted his number and went on a vacation with a few friends. But... I can't. I know that these are probably red flags with all the insecurities and that I might suffer in the future but I don't want to think about the future. I've done that all my life and I'm tired of that. Right now at this moment I want him, I don't care about what will happen later.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_Dangus
So, the only thing that has changed is that he told you he just wants to be friends.
https://www.dxpnet.com/taurus-forum/how-do-you-know-if-a-taurus-venus-likes-you--13029499/
And I also told him straight out clear that I don't do hook ups and that I will never have sex with a guy that I'm not in a committed relationship with and I told him "If you ever change your mind, you know where to find me". And he texted after that.
Yes, I was being a smartass. Sorry.
There are a lot of questions people will ask that could get cleared up easy. He's a Gemini sun. He is just getting over a past relationship.
I think he likes you fine, but he's not serious or even ready to get serious.
I appreciate that. Thank you. He has his sun in Gemini but he also has venus in taurus. And honestly, I know a lot of geminis, been in love with another gemini before, one of my best friends is a gemini and the only gemini trait I see in him is that he likes to tell a lot of jokes and talk a lot and be "the funny guy". Well, now I'm going to tell you why he hasn't kissed me yet. Because THAT I know. So, he had a condition, like, a health condition a couple of years back, that damaged his teeth. Like, really bad. They're in a pretty bad state. I was slightly bothered by it in the beginning because I thought it was pure lack of oral care or even substance abuse. When I learned what it was about, I wanted to give him a chance 'cause there's more to him than his teeth, right? And it's not even his fault. He came here to work for the summer to get the money to fix his teeth in our home country. I know that because my brother in law told me that. And when we were at my place the other day, he told me, completely out of the blue that he was going to get his teeth fixed. So, he's afraid of needles and hasn't set foot at a doctor's office in years. But he's doing it now. He has to have some kind of insecurity because of that. He may think that I don't want him to kiss me. When he left, we started texting and he told me "I thought you were going to kiss me" and I said "I thought you were going to kiss me too" and he said "I didn't want you to think that I was in your place with bad intentions". Today he was trying to make me jealous again saying he's going out for dinner tomorrow. What he doesn't know is that I know he's going for dinner with my sister and her boyfriend so I completely shrugged it off. And that's when he said he only wanted to be friends and didn't want me to get the wrong idea and two minutes later he was asking me for a massage. And I was like "Yeah... I can give you a massage, we're friends now so there's no danger of one of us getting the wrong idea" and he was like "It's still dangerous, I don't know what can happen after that". Also, people at my sister's restaurant like to make jokes about us and we were talking about that the other day and he said "No one has nothing to do with our life." Like... he said OUR life. Seriously, the reason why we fought is because he said he wanted me to introduce him to some of my friends. But he said that in a very disgusting way. He was testing me and instead of getting the reaction he wanted, I just blew up! I figured out he was testing me because when we talked again two weeks later, he said the exact same thing and that's when my brother in law told me he wanted a reaction from me and to tell him I was interested. So, today when he told me he wanted to be friends I told him "You know, I have a party next week, I can introduce you to my friends like you wanted" And he was like "That was only a joke". Seriously, can't this be another kind of test he's doing because of his insecurities? You must think I'm crazy because I'm still not over this guy but... this is just how it is. I tried to get over him after our "fight". I even deleted his number and went on a vacation with a few friends. But... I can't. I know that these are probably red flags with all the insecurities and that I might suffer in the future but I don't want to think about the future. I've done that all my life and I'm tired of that. Right now at this moment I want him, I don't care about what will happen later.
Okay, I better understand why you think he is interested, saying one thing and doing another. Remind me how old you guys are. He sounds so young and timid. Anyway, yes, I can see how having a problem with his teeth could hurt his confidence and willingness to initiate a kiss. Maybe that's where the timidity is coming from. It really irritates me when people test, so you know my answer isn't going to be positive on that, but it's obviously not my call. I see no reason why you can't wait it out and see how things go. Just don't do something that you would regret if he suddenly goes cold.click to expand
I'm glad you start to understand me and don't just think I'm plain stupid 😅 We're old... We're just acting like we're 15 'cause we're dumb and stupid! He's 29 and I'm 25. I don't know when his teeth decay started but judging by his Facebook pictures it was a couple of years back so he was already with his ex so... Unless he cheated on his ex, I must be the first girl he flirted/talked to (I don't know what to call it) after that. There are other factors that could play a role in his insecurities. Based on where he comes from and their mentality. I know it well because my mom comes from the same place. And also the fact that he was cheated on 5 months ago. I don't like testing either but I just enjoy being with him so much that I'm willing to forgive him 😅
My brother in law told me "You want him, he wants you and you're both actind like that". This is coming from his only close friend in this country so... I also thought about the possibility of him only wanting sex but it doesn't add up. I'm very intuitive (it might be hard to believe but I tend to "feel" things and you would be shocked by some of the things that I've "felt") and if he only wanted sex I would've felt it. Also, yesterday he told me he didn't want me to think he only wanted to take advantage of me. Also, there's the thing that he will be leaving soon and we did talk about that and he insisted that he will come back here.
I did become more flirty this past days do he would finally understand that I like him. Maybe he thinks I'm playing him because I don't show him I want him to make a move when we're together. Maybe he's trying to see if I'm just another slut even though I told him how things work with me. Do you think he might actually be testing me to see how serious I am about him? Insecure Taurus are known for that right? Or was I just too bold and he genuinely lost interest? But then, why would he keep flirting after that?
Posted by Araujo97Posted by PiscesGal76Posted by ClairDeLune
I wouldnt give a guy who doesnt have the balls to say what he wants any time. It just starts to turn into mind games and assumptions and later on heartache or confusion. If he wants you, he needs to assure it otherwise it's just guess play. You deserve someone who can say what he wants
I agree with this!! ☝️☝️
Seeing I'm in similar situation but without the fighting, I fully agree with the above comment. We deserve someone who will speak up and fully goes for us.
Mine is wishy washy aswell... expressed his feelings in a drunk state and now back to silence again. Today I told him that I do not deserve this behaviour and that he needs to let me know what it is that he actually wants from me. Sometimes we need to be very direct with the other person about what we do or do not deserve and expect from them.
I cant understand any of the logic of not being very direct, maybe is my lack of waterclick to expand
The Bull has a lot of water in him. He has been quiet for past 2/3 weeks and this weekend he drunk texted me, expressing feelings. Which I knew are there. When he's sober, he's back to silence. I do not understand this logic either. Altho I have a lot of water aswell, my Virgo moon requires clarity. Just tell me straight up. I've asked him to tell me straight up and not once has he said that feelings arent mutual. I know they are, that was painfully clear this weekend. I'm leaving him be tho. I've said what I wanted to say, he knows how I feel, he'll have to sort it out for himself now.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_Dangus
So, the only thing that has changed is that he told you he just wants to be friends.
https://www.dxpnet.com/taurus-forum/how-do-you-know-if-a-taurus-venus-likes-you--13029499/
And I also told him straight out clear that I don't do hook ups and that I will never have sex with a guy that I'm not in a committed relationship with and I told him "If you ever change your mind, you know where to find me". And he texted after that.
Yes, I was being a smartass. Sorry.
There are a lot of questions people will ask that could get cleared up easy. He's a Gemini sun. He is just getting over a past relationship.
I think he likes you fine, but he's not serious or even ready to get serious.
I appreciate that. Thank you. He has his sun in Gemini but he also has venus in taurus. And honestly, I know a lot of geminis, been in love with another gemini before, one of my best friends is a gemini and the only gemini trait I see in him is that he likes to tell a lot of jokes and talk a lot and be "the funny guy". Well, now I'm going to tell you why he hasn't kissed me yet. Because THAT I know. So, he had a condition, like, a health condition a couple of years back, that damaged his teeth. Like, really bad. They're in a pretty bad state. I was slightly bothered by it in the beginning because I thought it was pure lack of oral care or even substance abuse. When I learned what it was about, I wanted to give him a chance 'cause there's more to him than his teeth, right? And it's not even his fault. He came here to work for the summer to get the money to fix his teeth in our home country. I know that because my brother in law told me that. And when we were at my place the other day, he told me, completely out of the blue that he was going to get his teeth fixed. So, he's afraid of needles and hasn't set foot at a doctor's office in years. But he's doing it now. He has to have some kind of insecurity because of that. He may think that I don't want him to kiss me. When he left, we started texting and he told me "I thought you were going to kiss me" and I said "I thought you were going to kiss me too" and he said "I didn't want you to think that I was in your place with bad intentions". Today he was trying to make me jealous again saying he's going out for dinner tomorrow. What he doesn't know is that I know he's going for dinner with my sister and her boyfriend so I completely shrugged it off. And that's when he said he only wanted to be friends and didn't want me to get the wrong idea and two minutes later he was asking me for a massage. And I was like "Yeah... I can give you a massage, we're friends now so there's no danger of one of us getting the wrong idea" and he was like "It's still dangerous, I don't know what can happen after that". Also, people at my sister's restaurant like to make jokes about us and we were talking about that the other day and he said "No one has nothing to do with our life." Like... he said OUR life. Seriously, the reason why we fought is because he said he wanted me to introduce him to some of my friends. But he said that in a very disgusting way. He was testing me and instead of getting the reaction he wanted, I just blew up! I figured out he was testing me because when we talked again two weeks later, he said the exact same thing and that's when my brother in law told me he wanted a reaction from me and to tell him I was interested. So, today when he told me he wanted to be friends I told him "You know, I have a party next week, I can introduce you to my friends like you wanted" And he was like "That was only a joke". Seriously, can't this be another kind of test he's doing because of his insecurities? You must think I'm crazy because I'm still not over this guy but... this is just how it is. I tried to get over him after our "fight". I even deleted his number and went on a vacation with a few friends. But... I can't. I know that these are probably red flags with all the insecurities and that I might suffer in the future but I don't want to think about the future. I've done that all my life and I'm tired of that. Right now at this moment I want him, I don't care about what will happen later.
Okay, I better understand why you think he is interested, saying one thing and doing another. Remind me how old you guys are. He sounds so young and timid. Anyway, yes, I can see how having a problem with his teeth could hurt his confidence and willingness to initiate a kiss. Maybe that's where the timidity is coming from. It really irritates me when people test, so you know my answer isn't going to be positive on that, but it's obviously not my call. I see no reason why you can't wait it out and see how things go. Just don't do something that you would regret if he suddenly goes cold.click to expand
Also, I forgot to ask. What is it that I might do that I might regret? 😅
Posted by Foxy777
Take the moments of pleasure away.
It means behaving like a lady ...i mean ..polite demure ...but slightly icy and standoffish ...he will get the message.
You know I think that is the reason why I started to like him. All my life I had this automatic response when I was near any guy. I was cool, laid back and eventually became one of the guys. This has always been like this ever since I started my dating life. With him, it wasn't like that. I was very feminine, coy, shy, classy and I was very in touch with my feminine energy and that's why I enjoyed spending time with him so much. But then I became flirty... Do you think that if I go back to being icy it will change?
Posted by PiscesGal76Posted by Araujo97Posted by PiscesGal76Posted by ClairDeLune
I wouldnt give a guy who doesnt have the balls to say what he wants any time. It just starts to turn into mind games and assumptions and later on heartache or confusion. If he wants you, he needs to assure it otherwise it's just guess play. You deserve someone who can say what he wants
I agree with this!! ☝️☝️
Seeing I'm in similar situation but without the fighting, I fully agree with the above comment. We deserve someone who will speak up and fully goes for us.
Mine is wishy washy aswell... expressed his feelings in a drunk state and now back to silence again. Today I told him that I do not deserve this behaviour and that he needs to let me know what it is that he actually wants from me. Sometimes we need to be very direct with the other person about what we do or do not deserve and expect from them.
I cant understand any of the logic of not being very direct, maybe is my lack of water
The Bull has a lot of water in him. He has been quiet for past 2/3 weeks and this weekend he drunk texted me, expressing feelings. Which I knew are there. When he's sober, he's back to silence. I do not understand this logic either. Altho I have a lot of water aswell, my Virgo moon requires clarity. Just tell me straight up. I've asked him to tell me straight up and not once has he said that feelings arent mutual. I know they are, that was painfully clear this weekend. I'm leaving him be tho. I've said what I wanted to say, he knows how I feel, he'll have to sort it out for himself now.click to expand
They're so complicated. Like, seriously... One day he tells me he wants me to kiss him, the next day he says he only wants to be friends and 3 minutes later he's asking for a massage and saying that he doesn't know what can happen after the massage but he also doesn't want me to think he only wanted to take advantage of me. Like? Who can understand that?
Posted by ClairDeLune
I wouldnt give a guy who doesnt have the balls to say what he wants any time. It just starts to turn into mind games and assumptions and later on heartache or confusion. If he wants you, he needs to assure it otherwise it's just guess play. You deserve someone who can say what he wants
yeah! fuck those guys too who are shy or lack confidence or at times feel insecure!
Posted by queeneemyPosted by PiscesGal76Posted by Araujo97Posted by PiscesGal76Posted by ClairDeLune
I wouldnt give a guy who doesnt have the balls to say what he wants any time. It just starts to turn into mind games and assumptions and later on heartache or confusion. If he wants you, he needs to assure it otherwise it's just guess play. You deserve someone who can say what he wants
I agree with this!! ☝️☝️
Seeing I'm in similar situation but without the fighting, I fully agree with the above comment. We deserve someone who will speak up and fully goes for us.
Mine is wishy washy aswell... expressed his feelings in a drunk state and now back to silence again. Today I told him that I do not deserve this behaviour and that he needs to let me know what it is that he actually wants from me. Sometimes we need to be very direct with the other person about what we do or do not deserve and expect from them.
I cant understand any of the logic of not being very direct, maybe is my lack of water
The Bull has a lot of water in him. He has been quiet for past 2/3 weeks and this weekend he drunk texted me, expressing feelings. Which I knew are there. When he's sober, he's back to silence. I do not understand this logic either. Altho I have a lot of water aswell, my Virgo moon requires clarity. Just tell me straight up. I've asked him to tell me straight up and not once has he said that feelings arent mutual. I know they are, that was painfully clear this weekend. I'm leaving him be tho. I've said what I wanted to say, he knows how I feel, he'll have to sort it out for himself now.
They're so complicated. Like, seriously... One day he tells me he wants me to kiss him, the next day he says he only wants to be friends and 3 minutes later he's asking for a massage and saying that he doesn't know what can happen after the massage but he also doesn't want me to think he only wanted to take advantage of me. Like? Who can understand that?click to expand
I so hear you!!
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_Dangus
So, the only thing that has changed is that he told you he just wants to be friends.
https://www.dxpnet.com/taurus-forum/how-do-you-know-if-a-taurus-venus-likes-you--13029499/
And I also told him straight out clear that I don't do hook ups and that I will never have sex with a guy that I'm not in a committed relationship with and I told him "If you ever change your mind, you know where to find me". And he texted after that.
Yes, I was being a smartass. Sorry.
There are a lot of questions people will ask that could get cleared up easy. He's a Gemini sun. He is just getting over a past relationship.
I think he likes you fine, but he's not serious or even ready to get serious.
I appreciate that. Thank you. He has his sun in Gemini but he also has venus in taurus. And honestly, I know a lot of geminis, been in love with another gemini before, one of my best friends is a gemini and the only gemini trait I see in him is that he likes to tell a lot of jokes and talk a lot and be "the funny guy". Well, now I'm going to tell you why he hasn't kissed me yet. Because THAT I know. So, he had a condition, like, a health condition a couple of years back, that damaged his teeth. Like, really bad. They're in a pretty bad state. I was slightly bothered by it in the beginning because I thought it was pure lack of oral care or even substance abuse. When I learned what it was about, I wanted to give him a chance 'cause there's more to him than his teeth, right? And it's not even his fault. He came here to work for the summer to get the money to fix his teeth in our home country. I know that because my brother in law told me that. And when we were at my place the other day, he told me, completely out of the blue that he was going to get his teeth fixed. So, he's afraid of needles and hasn't set foot at a doctor's office in years. But he's doing it now. He has to have some kind of insecurity because of that. He may think that I don't want him to kiss me. When he left, we started texting and he told me "I thought you were going to kiss me" and I said "I thought you were going to kiss me too" and he said "I didn't want you to think that I was in your place with bad intentions". Today he was trying to make me jealous again saying he's going out for dinner tomorrow. What he doesn't know is that I know he's going for dinner with my sister and her boyfriend so I completely shrugged it off. And that's when he said he only wanted to be friends and didn't want me to get the wrong idea and two minutes later he was asking me for a massage. And I was like "Yeah... I can give you a massage, we're friends now so there's no danger of one of us getting the wrong idea" and he was like "It's still dangerous, I don't know what can happen after that". Also, people at my sister's restaurant like to make jokes about us and we were talking about that the other day and he said "No one has nothing to do with our life." Like... he said OUR life. Seriously, the reason why we fought is because he said he wanted me to introduce him to some of my friends. But he said that in a very disgusting way. He was testing me and instead of getting the reaction he wanted, I just blew up! I figured out he was testing me because when we talked again two weeks later, he said the exact same thing and that's when my brother in law told me he wanted a reaction from me and to tell him I was interested. So, today when he told me he wanted to be friends I told him "You know, I have a party next week, I can introduce you to my friends like you wanted" And he was like "That was only a joke". Seriously, can't this be another kind of test he's doing because of his insecurities? You must think I'm crazy because I'm still not over this guy but... this is just how it is. I tried to get over him after our "fight". I even deleted his number and went on a vacation with a few friends. But... I can't. I know that these are probably red flags with all the insecurities and that I might suffer in the future but I don't want to think about the future. I've done that all my life and I'm tired of that. Right now at this moment I want him, I don't care about what will happen later.
Okay, I better understand why you think he is interested, saying one thing and doing another. Remind me how old you guys are. He sounds so young and timid. Anyway, yes, I can see how having a problem with his teeth could hurt his confidence and willingness to initiate a kiss. Maybe that's where the timidity is coming from. It really irritates me when people test, so you know my answer isn't going to be positive on that, but it's obviously not my call. I see no reason why you can't wait it out and see how things go. Just don't do something that you would regret if he suddenly goes cold.
Also, I forgot to ask. What is it that I might do that I might regret? 😅
Haha, you know! Send him nudes, let something stupid like "I love you" slip out, have sex. If you would be devastated if you did one of those things and then he went cold...don't do them yet! 😅click to expand
Ahaha no I won't do anything like that. I'm very sure of myself when it comes to that. I'm a virgin. I waited until now I can wait a little longer. That's why I let him come to my house. I know what I want and what I don't want.
Then why did he tell me he wanted to be friends? I'm sorry but I really don't get it. 😅
One of my fears was also that he only wanted me for sex. But then I told him straight out that I wouldn't do it and he kept in touch so I thought that he was trying to see where things went. And the other day he was all about insisting that he's leaving to our home country but that he will be back. He said it three times when I was saying "Okay I get it... it's your life, you do what you have to do." And he wouldn't be so worried about what I think about him and telling me he doesn't want me to think he only wanted to take advantage of me and he would have tried something when we were at my place. 'Cause if he's only in it for the sex he wouldn't care, right? And he also told me "Are you happy now that you know I don't have bad intentions?".
I do understand that he wants sex, obviously. And if things do go somewhere I won't keep him waiting forever. And he's been here "alone" for a few months so, I get it. I really do. But it has to happen when I'm ready.
You know, my mother told me "Get used to it cause men are all like that" and I've been talking to older women and listening to their stories and I came to the conclusion that men are all very complicated. Not all in the same way but they are. I mean no offense. So, it means I will have to go through stuff like this anyway so it has to be for someone who's worth it and that I enjoy being with right?
What do you think I should do now? Should I act like a friend? Should I ignore him? Should I give him the massage? 😅 I would like things to be clear before he leaves tbh 😅
Posted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_Dangus
So, the only thing that has changed is that he told you he just wants to be friends.
https://www.dxpnet.com/taurus-forum/how-do-you-know-if-a-taurus-venus-likes-you--13029499/
And I also told him straight out clear that I don't do hook ups and that I will never have sex with a guy that I'm not in a committed relationship with and I told him "If you ever change your mind, you know where to find me". And he texted after that.
Yes, I was being a smartass. Sorry.
There are a lot of questions people will ask that could get cleared up easy. He's a Gemini sun. He is just getting over a past relationship.
I think he likes you fine, but he's not serious or even ready to get serious.
I appreciate that. Thank you. He has his sun in Gemini but he also has venus in taurus. And honestly, I know a lot of geminis, been in love with another gemini before, one of my best friends is a gemini and the only gemini trait I see in him is that he likes to tell a lot of jokes and talk a lot and be "the funny guy". Well, now I'm going to tell you why he hasn't kissed me yet. Because THAT I know. So, he had a condition, like, a health condition a couple of years back, that damaged his teeth. Like, really bad. They're in a pretty bad state. I was slightly bothered by it in the beginning because I thought it was pure lack of oral care or even substance abuse. When I learned what it was about, I wanted to give him a chance 'cause there's more to him than his teeth, right? And it's not even his fault. He came here to work for the summer to get the money to fix his teeth in our home country. I know that because my brother in law told me that. And when we were at my place the other day, he told me, completely out of the blue that he was going to get his teeth fixed. So, he's afraid of needles and hasn't set foot at a doctor's office in years. But he's doing it now. He has to have some kind of insecurity because of that. He may think that I don't want him to kiss me. When he left, we started texting and he told me "I thought you were going to kiss me" and I said "I thought you were going to kiss me too" and he said "I didn't want you to think that I was in your place with bad intentions". Today he was trying to make me jealous again saying he's going out for dinner tomorrow. What he doesn't know is that I know he's going for dinner with my sister and her boyfriend so I completely shrugged it off. And that's when he said he only wanted to be friends and didn't want me to get the wrong idea and two minutes later he was asking me for a massage. And I was like "Yeah... I can give you a massage, we're friends now so there's no danger of one of us getting the wrong idea" and he was like "It's still dangerous, I don't know what can happen after that". Also, people at my sister's restaurant like to make jokes about us and we were talking about that the other day and he said "No one has nothing to do with our life." Like... he said OUR life. Seriously, the reason why we fought is because he said he wanted me to introduce him to some of my friends. But he said that in a very disgusting way. He was testing me and instead of getting the reaction he wanted, I just blew up! I figured out he was testing me because when we talked again two weeks later, he said the exact same thing and that's when my brother in law told me he wanted a reaction from me and to tell him I was interested. So, today when he told me he wanted to be friends I told him "You know, I have a party next week, I can introduce you to my friends like you wanted" And he was like "That was only a joke". Seriously, can't this be another kind of test he's doing because of his insecurities? You must think I'm crazy because I'm still not over this guy but... this is just how it is. I tried to get over him after our "fight". I even deleted his number and went on a vacation with a few friends. But... I can't. I know that these are probably red flags with all the insecurities and that I might suffer in the future but I don't want to think about the future. I've done that all my life and I'm tired of that. Right now at this moment I want him, I don't care about what will happen later.
Okay, I better understand why you think he is interested, saying one thing and doing another. Remind me how old you guys are. He sounds so young and timid. Anyway, yes, I can see how having a problem with his teeth could hurt his confidence and willingness to initiate a kiss. Maybe that's where the timidity is coming from. It really irritates me when people test, so you know my answer isn't going to be positive on that, but it's obviously not my call. I see no reason why you can't wait it out and see how things go. Just don't do something that you would regret if he suddenly goes cold.
Also, I forgot to ask. What is it that I might do that I might regret? 😅
Haha, you know! Send him nudes, let something stupid like "I love you" slip out, have sex. If you would be devastated if you did one of those things and then he went cold...don't do them yet! 😅
Ahaha no I won't do anything like that. I'm very sure of myself when it comes to that. I'm a virgin. I waited until now I can wait a little longer. That's why I let him come to my house. I know what I want and what I don't want.
Then why did he tell me he wanted to be friends? I'm sorry but I really don't get it. 😅
One of my fears was also that he only wanted me for sex. But then I told him straight out that I wouldn't do it and he kept in touch so I thought that he was trying to see where things went. And the other day he was all about insisting that he's leaving to our home country but that he will be back. He said it three times when I was saying "Okay I get it... it's your life, you do what you have to do." And he wouldn't be so worried about what I think about him and telling me he doesn't want me to think he only wanted to take advantage of me and he would have tried something when we were at my place. 'Cause if he's only in it for the sex he wouldn't care, right? And he also told me "Are you happy now that you know I don't have bad intentions?".
I do understand that he wants sex, obviously. And if things do go somewhere I won't keep him waiting forever. And he's been here "alone" for a few months so, I get it. I really do. But it has to happen when I'm ready.
You know, my mother told me "Get used to it cause men are all like that" and I've been talking to older women and listening to their stories and I came to the conclusion that men are all very complicated. Not all in the same way but they are. I mean no offense. So, it means I will have to go through stuff like this anyway so it has to be for someone who's worth it and that I enjoy being with right?
What do you think I should do now? Should I act like a friend? Should I ignore him? Should I give him the massage? 😅 I would like things to be clear before he leaves tbh 😅click to expand
taurus like to be good friends with their prospective partners. they want to be with a person they like. for some, they don't like to play the field. for those ones they are very picky, very cautious and being in a relationship and having sex means something. they don't just go with anyone.
so be friends. (why would you ignore him—??) learn about each other. if he wants a massage and if you want to, give him a playful massage. have fun and start to build a foundation.
Posted by Phantom_Dangus
My best advice is treat him as a friend in terms of expectations and sexual activity, but keep flirting so he knows you like him back. Don't chase, but don't play hard to get either. You'll probably want to hold off on that massage until more is known unless you have an ironclad will.
P.S. I wasn't arguing with jeane about the massage. We posted at the same time. It seems she has some self-control. I lack. lol!
you can argue with me! i agree with the massage. i mean when i say massage i mean a very playful, flirtatious, fully clothed, very pg massage. taurus like to be touched. if she is a touchy feely person and can treat it in a light hearted (ie no expectations) way, then i say why not? to me it is just a bit of fun. #sagmoon4lyfe
but! i see your point, it really is about her comfort level and if she thinks it is appropriate for her.
Posted by Phantom_Dangus
My best advice is treat him as a friend in terms of expectations and sexual activity, but keep flirting so he knows you like him back. Don't chase, but don't play hard to get either. You'll probably want to hold off on that massage until more is known unless you have an ironclad will.
P.S. I wasn't arguing with jeane about the massage. We posted at the same time. It seems she has some self-control. I lack. lol!
Don't worry, you won't be responsible for my heartbreak. I just need some enlightenment. Stubborn as I am, in the end I'll just do whatever the hell I want 😅 But I do appreciate your help. I really do.
Well, family and bro code here is a bit complicated. Actually, my sister is not my real sister. She's my ex stepfather's daughter. Our parents aren't together anymore but we still consider each other as sisters even though we're not blood related at all. And this guy is her cousin. 😅 My brother-in-law does want us together and I even remember that when this all started he told me "Don't play with his feelings" and I told him "I don't play with anyone's feelings but if he plays with mine, I will play with his" 😅 He also once told me "So, will we be cousins or not?" as if I was the one calling the shots here. He's always insisting that he's a good guy. And he does seem like a good guy.
I don't know if he's over his ex. My brother-in-law says he is. I never asked him about that so I don't know but even if he still has feelings for her, that doesn't mean he will go back to her and I truly believe he won't.
We live in Europe. It's a 2 and a half hours flight between our home country and where we live now, so it's not that far. He is leaving next month and he always said that if he finds a permanent job he will come back, if he doesn't he will be back in April to work at his uncle's restaurant.
To be honest I can understand why he's being careful and he's probably the one who is right. But I am kind of anxious that while he's away he will find someone else or just genuinely forget about me. And also, the fact that he isn't afraid of me finding someone else or forgetting him kind of hurts me. I mean, maybe not hurt, it's not the end of the world, but... you know what I mean.
And as for the massage, my will is as strong as a rock. I've been in "harder to resist" situations than giving a massage 😅
Posted by jeanePosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_Dangus
So, the only thing that has changed is that he told you he just wants to be friends.
https://www.dxpnet.com/taurus-forum/how-do-you-know-if-a-taurus-venus-likes-you--13029499/
And I also told him straight out clear that I don't do hook ups and that I will never have sex with a guy that I'm not in a committed relationship with and I told him "If you ever change your mind, you know where to find me". And he texted after that.
Yes, I was being a smartass. Sorry.
There are a lot of questions people will ask that could get cleared up easy. He's a Gemini sun. He is just getting over a past relationship.
I think he likes you fine, but he's not serious or even ready to get serious.
I appreciate that. Thank you. He has his sun in Gemini but he also has venus in taurus. And honestly, I know a lot of geminis, been in love with another gemini before, one of my best friends is a gemini and the only gemini trait I see in him is that he likes to tell a lot of jokes and talk a lot and be "the funny guy". Well, now I'm going to tell you why he hasn't kissed me yet. Because THAT I know. So, he had a condition, like, a health condition a couple of years back, that damaged his teeth. Like, really bad. They're in a pretty bad state. I was slightly bothered by it in the beginning because I thought it was pure lack of oral care or even substance abuse. When I learned what it was about, I wanted to give him a chance 'cause there's more to him than his teeth, right? And it's not even his fault. He came here to work for the summer to get the money to fix his teeth in our home country. I know that because my brother in law told me that. And when we were at my place the other day, he told me, completely out of the blue that he was going to get his teeth fixed. So, he's afraid of needles and hasn't set foot at a doctor's office in years. But he's doing it now. He has to have some kind of insecurity because of that. He may think that I don't want him to kiss me. When he left, we started texting and he told me "I thought you were going to kiss me" and I said "I thought you were going to kiss me too" and he said "I didn't want you to think that I was in your place with bad intentions". Today he was trying to make me jealous again saying he's going out for dinner tomorrow. What he doesn't know is that I know he's going for dinner with my sister and her boyfriend so I completely shrugged it off. And that's when he said he only wanted to be friends and didn't want me to get the wrong idea and two minutes later he was asking me for a massage. And I was like "Yeah... I can give you a massage, we're friends now so there's no danger of one of us getting the wrong idea" and he was like "It's still dangerous, I don't know what can happen after that". Also, people at my sister's restaurant like to make jokes about us and we were talking about that the other day and he said "No one has nothing to do with our life." Like... he said OUR life. Seriously, the reason why we fought is because he said he wanted me to introduce him to some of my friends. But he said that in a very disgusting way. He was testing me and instead of getting the reaction he wanted, I just blew up! I figured out he was testing me because when we talked again two weeks later, he said the exact same thing and that's when my brother in law told me he wanted a reaction from me and to tell him I was interested. So, today when he told me he wanted to be friends I told him "You know, I have a party next week, I can introduce you to my friends like you wanted" And he was like "That was only a joke". Seriously, can't this be another kind of test he's doing because of his insecurities? You must think I'm crazy because I'm still not over this guy but... this is just how it is. I tried to get over him after our "fight". I even deleted his number and went on a vacation with a few friends. But... I can't. I know that these are probably red flags with all the insecurities and that I might suffer in the future but I don't want to think about the future. I've done that all my life and I'm tired of that. Right now at this moment I want him, I don't care about what will happen later.
Okay, I better understand why you think he is interested, saying one thing and doing another. Remind me how old you guys are. He sounds so young and timid. Anyway, yes, I can see how having a problem with his teeth could hurt his confidence and willingness to initiate a kiss. Maybe that's where the timidity is coming from. It really irritates me when people test, so you know my answer isn't going to be positive on that, but it's obviously not my call. I see no reason why you can't wait it out and see how things go. Just don't do something that you would regret if he suddenly goes cold.
Also, I forgot to ask. What is it that I might do that I might regret? 😅
Haha, you know! Send him nudes, let something stupid like "I love you" slip out, have sex. If you would be devastated if you did one of those things and then he went cold...don't do them yet! 😅
Ahaha no I won't do anything like that. I'm very sure of myself when it comes to that. I'm a virgin. I waited until now I can wait a little longer. That's why I let him come to my house. I know what I want and what I don't want.
Then why did he tell me he wanted to be friends? I'm sorry but I really don't get it. 😅
One of my fears was also that he only wanted me for sex. But then I told him straight out that I wouldn't do it and he kept in touch so I thought that he was trying to see where things went. And the other day he was all about insisting that he's leaving to our home country but that he will be back. He said it three times when I was saying "Okay I get it... it's your life, you do what you have to do." And he wouldn't be so worried about what I think about him and telling me he doesn't want me to think he only wanted to take advantage of me and he would have tried something when we were at my place. 'Cause if he's only in it for the sex he wouldn't care, right? And he also told me "Are you happy now that you know I don't have bad intentions?".
I do understand that he wants sex, obviously. And if things do go somewhere I won't keep him waiting forever. And he's been here "alone" for a few months so, I get it. I really do. But it has to happen when I'm ready.
You know, my mother told me "Get used to it cause men are all like that" and I've been talking to older women and listening to their stories and I came to the conclusion that men are all very complicated. Not all in the same way but they are. I mean no offense. So, it means I will have to go through stuff like this anyway so it has to be for someone who's worth it and that I enjoy being with right?
What do you think I should do now? Should I act like a friend? Should I ignore him? Should I give him the massage? 😅 I would like things to be clear before he leaves tbh 😅
taurus like to be good friends with their prospective partners. they want to be with a person they like. for some, they don't like to play the field. for those ones they are very picky, very cautious and being in a relationship and having sex means something. they don't just go with anyone.
so be friends. (why would you ignore him—??) learn about each other. if he wants a massage and if you want to, give him a playful massage. have fun and start to build a foundation.click to expand
It's just that I'm scared of the friend zone 😅😅 and because I don't understand why pull away like this the day after telling me he wanted me to kiss him 😅
Posted by queeneemy
It's just that I'm scared of the friend zone 😅😅 and because I don't understand why pull away like this the day after telling me he wanted me to kiss him 😅
ah man, never make a decision based on fear.
if you get friend zoned, you get friend zoned. it will suck. you'll be disappointed. it will hurt for a bit and then you'll be fine.
the same if he forgets about you or meets someone else. jesus, he could meet someone else if you were married for 20 years with 3 kids. life goes on.
there are no guarantees in life. you just do you best. weigh the risks, understand the possible outcomes and do the thing you are least likely to regret if it all turns to shit. that's all you can do. it's all any of us can do.
He's trying to get a li'l something something before his traveling.
Just have fun. You sound incredibly uptight, you need to chill, 20's are made to have fun.
Just have fun. You sound incredibly uptight, you need to chill, 20's are made to have fun.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_Dangus
My best advice is treat him as a friend in terms of expectations and sexual activity, but keep flirting so he knows you like him back. Don't chase, but don't play hard to get either. You'll probably want to hold off on that massage until more is known unless you have an ironclad will.
P.S. I wasn't arguing with jeane about the massage. We posted at the same time. It seems she has some self-control. I lack. lol!
Don't worry, you won't be responsible for my heartbreak. I just need some enlightenment. Stubborn as I am, in the end I'll just do whatever the hell I want 😅 But I do appreciate your help. I really do.
Well, family and bro code here is a bit complicated. Actually, my sister is not my real sister. She's my ex stepfather's daughter. Our parents aren't together anymore but we still consider each other as sisters even though we're not blood related at all. And this guy is her cousin. 😅 My brother-in-law does want us together and I even remember that when this all started he told me "Don't play with his feelings" and I told him "I don't play with anyone's feelings but if he plays with mine, I will play with his" 😅 He also once told me "So, will we be cousins or not?" as if I was the one calling the shots here. He's always insisting that he's a good guy. And he does seem like a good guy.
I don't know if he's over his ex. My brother-in-law says he is. I never asked him about that so I don't know but even if he still has feelings for her, that doesn't mean he will go back to her and I truly believe he won't.
We live in Europe. It's a 2 and a half hours flight between our home country and where we live now, so it's not that far. He is leaving next month and he always said that if he finds a permanent job he will come back, if he doesn't he will be back in April to work at his uncle's restaurant.
To be honest I can understand why he's being careful and he's probably the one who is right. But I am kind of anxious that while he's away he will find someone else or just genuinely forget about me. And also, the fact that he isn't afraid of me finding someone else or forgetting him kind of hurts me. I mean, maybe not hurt, it's not the end of the world, but... you know what I mean.
And as for the massage, my will is as strong as a rock. I've been in "harder to resist" situations than giving a massage 😅
If he does, he does. If you do, you do. Timing is a big part of how these things go down. No point in fighting that!
If you can give a friendly massage to someone you have vagina feelings for, then by all means! I'm a lusty wench. 😅click to expand
I guess you're right...
Can I give you a little update? He came to my place tonight. We watched a movie and it's cold so I covered myself with a blanket and I was sitting away from him 'cause, you know... we're friends so... Later I guess "he was cold" too and I always have two blankets on my couch. So he was like "Come here I want the blanket too" and I said "Get the other one" and he said "no, that one is enough for the two of us! Lie down here next to me". That's all that happened but... Like, seriously? Is that what you do with your friends? 😅
Posted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_Dangus
My best advice is treat him as a friend in terms of expectations and sexual activity, but keep flirting so he knows you like him back. Don't chase, but don't play hard to get either. You'll probably want to hold off on that massage until more is known unless you have an ironclad will.
P.S. I wasn't arguing with jeane about the massage. We posted at the same time. It seems she has some self-control. I lack. lol!
Don't worry, you won't be responsible for my heartbreak. I just need some enlightenment. Stubborn as I am, in the end I'll just do whatever the hell I want 😅 But I do appreciate your help. I really do.
Well, family and bro code here is a bit complicated. Actually, my sister is not my real sister. She's my ex stepfather's daughter. Our parents aren't together anymore but we still consider each other as sisters even though we're not blood related at all. And this guy is her cousin. 😅 My brother-in-law does want us together and I even remember that when this all started he told me "Don't play with his feelings" and I told him "I don't play with anyone's feelings but if he plays with mine, I will play with his" 😅 He also once told me "So, will we be cousins or not?" as if I was the one calling the shots here. He's always insisting that he's a good guy. And he does seem like a good guy.
I don't know if he's over his ex. My brother-in-law says he is. I never asked him about that so I don't know but even if he still has feelings for her, that doesn't mean he will go back to her and I truly believe he won't.
We live in Europe. It's a 2 and a half hours flight between our home country and where we live now, so it's not that far. He is leaving next month and he always said that if he finds a permanent job he will come back, if he doesn't he will be back in April to work at his uncle's restaurant.
To be honest I can understand why he's being careful and he's probably the one who is right. But I am kind of anxious that while he's away he will find someone else or just genuinely forget about me. And also, the fact that he isn't afraid of me finding someone else or forgetting him kind of hurts me. I mean, maybe not hurt, it's not the end of the world, but... you know what I mean.
And as for the massage, my will is as strong as a rock. I've been in "harder to resist" situations than giving a massage 😅
If he does, he does. If you do, you do. Timing is a big part of how these things go down. No point in fighting that!
If you can give a friendly massage to someone you have vagina feelings for, then by all means! I'm a lusty wench. 😅
I guess you're right...
Can I give you a little update? He came to my place tonight. We watched a movie and it's cold so I covered myself with a blanket and I was sitting away from him 'cause, you know... we're friends so... Later I guess "he was cold" too and I always have two blankets on my couch. So he was like "Come here I want the blanket too" and I said "Get the other one" and he said "no, that one is enough for the two of us! Lie down here next to me". That's all that happened but... Like, seriously? Is that what you do with your friends? 😅click to expand
Oh and I forgot to mention that when he came, we were smoking a cigarette and he was on his phone and he was like "Who's adding me on facebook?" And I couldn't care less and he was like "Oh... they're all sluts... I don't even know them". And when he got home he texted me and he was like "thank you for the coffee and the company and the massage" and I was like "you're welcome! Please do come back sir" (like what you say to customers when they're leaving a store 😅) and he said "Whenever you want". So... Friends my ass 😅
"He says he only wants to be friends but keeps flirting"
Women use the 'friend' label to friend zone men, aka divide men into the category of non-fuckable. Men have no problem fucking their friends.
You need to adjust your mindset.
Women use the 'friend' label to friend zone men, aka divide men into the category of non-fuckable. Men have no problem fucking their friends.
You need to adjust your mindset.
Posted by LadyNeptune
"He says he only wants to be friends but keeps flirting"
Women use the 'friend' label to friend zone men, aka divide men into the category of non-fuckable. Men have no problem fucking their friends.
You need to adjust your mindset.
Yeah but I told him at the very beginning that I don't do hook ups and I've showed him that multiple times too so, if he's still acting like this...
Posted by greylaternPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_Dangus
So, the only thing that has changed is that he told you he just wants to be friends.
https://www.dxpnet.com/taurus-forum/how-do-you-know-if-a-taurus-venus-likes-you--13029499/
No. We went on more dates, we fought with each other, we didn't speak for 2 weeks, he was jealous of me talking to another guy, he was trying to make me jealous, his best friend told me he didn't know I was interested in him after they talked about me 'cause my sister told me they talked about me and he was flirting like crazy after I told him I was interested in him.
But seriously, if you just came here to judge me because I created another thread, you shouldn't have bothered. I'm seriously looking for help here.
So obviously he isn't handling the friends only thing well. You told him you wouldn't sleep with him and nothing serious. He is trying to be respectful and stick with that. How he feel is how he feels though. With immature Taurus
placements things tend to sneak up on them.
Where you expecting him to try and pressure you and change your mind? Wouldn't that risk jepardise the friendship in his eyes. Sit down have a heart to heart or let it be and do the unrequited love thing.click to expand
No, I kinda like this guy so what I was expecting was that maybe, if he feels the same way, we could try something serious. But I can't force him to like me or anything like that so... But this whole just friends thing is really weird. I have a lot of male friends and they never asked me to give them a massage or to lie down next to them on the couch while watching a movie. Not even the gay ones. If I already told him and showed him so many times that I wouldn't have sex with him just because, his interest for me can't be only sexual, right?
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_Dangus
My best advice is treat him as a friend in terms of expectations and sexual activity, but keep flirting so he knows you like him back. Don't chase, but don't play hard to get either. You'll probably want to hold off on that massage until more is known unless you have an ironclad will.
P.S. I wasn't arguing with jeane about the massage. We posted at the same time. It seems she has some self-control. I lack. lol!
Don't worry, you won't be responsible for my heartbreak. I just need some enlightenment. Stubborn as I am, in the end I'll just do whatever the hell I want 😅 But I do appreciate your help. I really do.
Well, family and bro code here is a bit complicated. Actually, my sister is not my real sister. She's my ex stepfather's daughter. Our parents aren't together anymore but we still consider each other as sisters even though we're not blood related at all. And this guy is her cousin. 😅 My brother-in-law does want us together and I even remember that when this all started he told me "Don't play with his feelings" and I told him "I don't play with anyone's feelings but if he plays with mine, I will play with his" 😅 He also once told me "So, will we be cousins or not?" as if I was the one calling the shots here. He's always insisting that he's a good guy. And he does seem like a good guy.
I don't know if he's over his ex. My brother-in-law says he is. I never asked him about that so I don't know but even if he still has feelings for her, that doesn't mean he will go back to her and I truly believe he won't.
We live in Europe. It's a 2 and a half hours flight between our home country and where we live now, so it's not that far. He is leaving next month and he always said that if he finds a permanent job he will come back, if he doesn't he will be back in April to work at his uncle's restaurant.
To be honest I can understand why he's being careful and he's probably the one who is right. But I am kind of anxious that while he's away he will find someone else or just genuinely forget about me. And also, the fact that he isn't afraid of me finding someone else or forgetting him kind of hurts me. I mean, maybe not hurt, it's not the end of the world, but... you know what I mean.
And as for the massage, my will is as strong as a rock. I've been in "harder to resist" situations than giving a massage 😅
If he does, he does. If you do, you do. Timing is a big part of how these things go down. No point in fighting that!
If you can give a friendly massage to someone you have vagina feelings for, then by all means! I'm a lusty wench. 😅
I guess you're right...
Can I give you a little update? He came to my place tonight. We watched a movie and it's cold so I covered myself with a blanket and I was sitting away from him 'cause, you know... we're friends so... Later I guess "he was cold" too and I always have two blankets on my couch. So he was like "Come here I want the blanket too" and I said "Get the other one" and he said "no, that one is enough for the two of us! Lie down here next to me". That's all that happened but... Like, seriously? Is that what you do with your friends? 😅
Oh and I forgot to mention that when he came, we were smoking a cigarette and he was on his phone and he was like "Who's adding me on facebook?" And I couldn't care less and he was like "Oh... they're all sluts... I don't even know them". And when he got home he texted me and he was like "thank you for the coffee and the company and the massage" and I was like "you're welcome! Please do come back sir" (like what you say to customers when they're leaving a store 😅) and he said "Whenever you want". So... Friends my ass 😅
Not even subtle. Okay, interest confirmed, but ultimate goal...still unknown. Your mission continues. lolclick to expand
I've told him soooooo many times and actually showed him that it wouldn't happen. If he sticks around, specially acting like this, it can't be only sexual right? Maybe he thought things were going too fast? Not on a physical level obviously ('cause they're not moving fast at all) but regarding our feelings and he wanted to slow things down so that he gets more time to evaluate me and be sure that I'm worth his time? Isn't that what Taurus likes to do? 😅
Again, these are just theories but... Like I told you, I would have felt if he only wanted a hook up. My feeling is never wrong. 😅
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by greylaternPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_Dangus
So, the only thing that has changed is that he told you he just wants to be friends.
https://www.dxpnet.com/taurus-forum/how-do-you-know-if-a-taurus-venus-likes-you--13029499/
No. We went on more dates, we fought with each other, we didn't speak for 2 weeks, he was jealous of me talking to another guy, he was trying to make me jealous, his best friend told me he didn't know I was interested in him after they talked about me 'cause my sister told me they talked about me and he was flirting like crazy after I told him I was interested in him.
But seriously, if you just came here to judge me because I created another thread, you shouldn't have bothered. I'm seriously looking for help here.
So obviously he isn't handling the friends only thing well. You told him you wouldn't sleep with him and nothing serious. He is trying to be respectful and stick with that. How he feel is how he feels though. With immature Taurus
placements things tend to sneak up on them.
Where you expecting him to try and pressure you and change your mind? Wouldn't that risk jepardise the friendship in his eyes. Sit down have a heart to heart or let it be and do the unrequited love thing.
No, I kinda like this guy so what I was expecting was that maybe, if he feels the same way, we could try something serious. But I can't force him to like me or anything like that so... But this whole just friends thing is really weird. I have a lot of male friends and they never asked me to give them a massage or to lie down next to them on the couch while watching a movie. Not even the gay ones. If I already told him and showed him so many times that I wouldn't have sex with him just because, his interest for me can't be only sexual, right?
It could still go either way. He _has_ gotten a little further with you each time. Right?click to expand
Today was the "boldest" thing he's done. All those things he does are all by text right after we meet each other.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_Dangus
My best advice is treat him as a friend in terms of expectations and sexual activity, but keep flirting so he knows you like him back. Don't chase, but don't play hard to get either. You'll probably want to hold off on that massage until more is known unless you have an ironclad will.
P.S. I wasn't arguing with jeane about the massage. We posted at the same time. It seems she has some self-control. I lack. lol!
Don't worry, you won't be responsible for my heartbreak. I just need some enlightenment. Stubborn as I am, in the end I'll just do whatever the hell I want 😅 But I do appreciate your help. I really do.
Well, family and bro code here is a bit complicated. Actually, my sister is not my real sister. She's my ex stepfather's daughter. Our parents aren't together anymore but we still consider each other as sisters even though we're not blood related at all. And this guy is her cousin. 😅 My brother-in-law does want us together and I even remember that when this all started he told me "Don't play with his feelings" and I told him "I don't play with anyone's feelings but if he plays with mine, I will play with his" 😅 He also once told me "So, will we be cousins or not?" as if I was the one calling the shots here. He's always insisting that he's a good guy. And he does seem like a good guy.
I don't know if he's over his ex. My brother-in-law says he is. I never asked him about that so I don't know but even if he still has feelings for her, that doesn't mean he will go back to her and I truly believe he won't.
We live in Europe. It's a 2 and a half hours flight between our home country and where we live now, so it's not that far. He is leaving next month and he always said that if he finds a permanent job he will come back, if he doesn't he will be back in April to work at his uncle's restaurant.
To be honest I can understand why he's being careful and he's probably the one who is right. But I am kind of anxious that while he's away he will find someone else or just genuinely forget about me. And also, the fact that he isn't afraid of me finding someone else or forgetting him kind of hurts me. I mean, maybe not hurt, it's not the end of the world, but... you know what I mean.
And as for the massage, my will is as strong as a rock. I've been in "harder to resist" situations than giving a massage 😅
If he does, he does. If you do, you do. Timing is a big part of how these things go down. No point in fighting that!
If you can give a friendly massage to someone you have vagina feelings for, then by all means! I'm a lusty wench. 😅
I guess you're right...
Can I give you a little update? He came to my place tonight. We watched a movie and it's cold so I covered myself with a blanket and I was sitting away from him 'cause, you know... we're friends so... Later I guess "he was cold" too and I always have two blankets on my couch. So he was like "Come here I want the blanket too" and I said "Get the other one" and he said "no, that one is enough for the two of us! Lie down here next to me". That's all that happened but... Like, seriously? Is that what you do with your friends? 😅
No, he's definitely putting the slow moves on. lol Do you know his moon and Mars?click to expand
Sorry, I only saw this now. He has capricorn moon and aries mars. He also has taurus mercury.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by queeneemyPosted by Phantom_Dangus
My best advice is treat him as a friend in terms of expectations and sexual activity, but keep flirting so he knows you like him back. Don't chase, but don't play hard to get either. You'll probably want to hold off on that massage until more is known unless you have an ironclad will.
P.S. I wasn't arguing with jeane about the massage. We posted at the same time. It seems she has some self-control. I lack. lol!
Don't worry, you won't be responsible for my heartbreak. I just need some enlightenment. Stubborn as I am, in the end I'll just do whatever the hell I want 😅 But I do appreciate your help. I really do.
Well, family and bro code here is a bit complicated. Actually, my sister is not my real sister. She's my ex stepfather's daughter. Our parents aren't together anymore but we still consider each other as sisters even though we're not blood related at all. And this guy is her cousin. 😅 My brother-in-law does want us together and I even remember that when this all started he told me "Don't play with his feelings" and I told him "I don't play with anyone's feelings but if he plays with mine, I will play with his" 😅 He also once told me "So, will we be cousins or not?" as if I was the one calling the shots here. He's always insisting that he's a good guy. And he does seem like a good guy.
I don't know if he's over his ex. My brother-in-law says he is. I never asked him about that so I don't know but even if he still has feelings for her, that doesn't mean he will go back to her and I truly believe he won't.
We live in Europe. It's a 2 and a half hours flight between our home country and where we live now, so it's not that far. He is leaving next month and he always said that if he finds a permanent job he will come back, if he doesn't he will be back in April to work at his uncle's restaurant.
To be honest I can understand why he's being careful and he's probably the one who is right. But I am kind of anxious that while he's away he will find someone else or just genuinely forget about me. And also, the fact that he isn't afraid of me finding someone else or forgetting him kind of hurts me. I mean, maybe not hurt, it's not the end of the world, but... you know what I mean.
And as for the massage, my will is as strong as a rock. I've been in "harder to resist" situations than giving a massage 😅
If he does, he does. If you do, you do. Timing is a big part of how these things go down. No point in fighting that!
If you can give a friendly massage to someone you have vagina feelings for, then by all means! I'm a lusty wench. 😅
I guess you're right...
Can I give you a little update? He came to my place tonight. We watched a movie and it's cold so I covered myself with a blanket and I was sitting away from him 'cause, you know... we're friends so... Later I guess "he was cold" too and I always have two blankets on my couch. So he was like "Come here I want the blanket too" and I said "Get the other one" and he said "no, that one is enough for the two of us! Lie down here next to me". That's all that happened but... Like, seriously? Is that what you do with your friends? 😅
Oh and I forgot to mention that when he came, we were smoking a cigarette and he was on his phone and he was like "Who's adding me on facebook?" And I couldn't care less and he was like "Oh... they're all sluts... I don't even know them". And when he got home he texted me and he was like "thank you for the coffee and the company and the massage" and I was like "you're welcome! Please do come back sir" (like what you say to customers when they're leaving a store 😅) and he said "Whenever you want". So... Friends my ass 😅
Not even subtle. Okay, interest confirmed, but ultimate goal...still unknown. Your mission continues. lol
I've told him soooooo many times and actually showed him that it wouldn't happen. If he sticks around, specially acting like this, it can't be only sexual right? Maybe he thought things were going too fast? Not on a physical level obviously ('cause they're not moving fast at all) but regarding our feelings and he wanted to slow things down so that he gets more time to evaluate me and be sure that I'm worth his time? Isn't that what Taurus likes to do? 😅
Again, these are just theories but... Like I told you, I would have felt if he only wanted a hook up. My feeling is never wrong. 😅
You're in your 20s. It's not the end of the world to get your heart broken. The only reason I'm really advising caution at all is because you're a virgin. He's a Gem sun/Taurus Venus, like me, plus a guy. My bet is he's all boners and no brains once he's under that blanket. Get him out of the apartment. lolclick to expand
Well, if I can avoid to get my heart broken that would be great 'cause that's happened a few times and one of those times was not that long ago. It was actually funny because I realised I didn't like that guy anymore when I found out he had a new girlfriend and I didn't feel anything. So I was like "okay, that means I don't like him anymore" and on the exact same day this texted me for the first time and I was like "wow... that was fast" 😅 However, no it's not the end of the world. I've been through worst 😅 But I told you, I waited until now, I can wait a little longer and I've been in some hard to resist situations and I never had second thoughts. I'm firm as a rock 😅 The things is, we both work until late in the evening, he's working without a day off so when we have time to meet, it's already late and there aren't a lot of places to hang out besides our cars and my house and because it's cold now, I don't wanna be outside 😅 But we did go for walks and stuff like that when the weather was a bit warmer. And we can't go to my sister's restaurant cause people there like to talk and it's a small village and I don't want everyone's nose all up in my life. 😅
Did you see his other placements? Do you think they can play a significant role?
Posted by queeneemyPosted by LadyNeptune
"He says he only wants to be friends but keeps flirting"
Women use the 'friend' label to friend zone men, aka divide men into the category of non-fuckable. Men have no problem fucking their friends.
You need to adjust your mindset.
Yeah but I told him at the very beginning that I don't do hook ups and I've showed him that multiple times too so, if he's still acting like this...click to expand
Acting like what?
He said he only wants to be friends. He flirts with you. Its not like he's getting down on one knee. Stop overthinking it.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by queeneemyPosted by LadyNeptune
"He says he only wants to be friends but keeps flirting"
Women use the 'friend' label to friend zone men, aka divide men into the category of non-fuckable. Men have no problem fucking their friends.
You need to adjust your mindset.
Yeah but I told him at the very beginning that I don't do hook ups and I've showed him that multiple times too so, if he's still acting like this...
Acting like what?
He said he only wants to be friends. He flirts with you. Its not like he's getting down on one knee. Stop overthinking it.click to expand
I'm not overthinking. By acting like that I meant exactly what you wrote. He says he only wants to be friends but he's flirting. I'm not saying he wants to marry me! Why did you get so worked up?
Posted by queeneemyPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by queeneemyPosted by LadyNeptune
"He says he only wants to be friends but keeps flirting"
Women use the 'friend' label to friend zone men, aka divide men into the category of non-fuckable. Men have no problem fucking their friends.
You need to adjust your mindset.
Yeah but I told him at the very beginning that I don't do hook ups and I've showed him that multiple times too so, if he's still acting like this...
Acting like what?
He said he only wants to be friends. He flirts with you. Its not like he's getting down on one knee. Stop overthinking it.
I'm not overthinking. By acting like that I meant exactly what you wrote. He says he only wants to be friends but he's flirting. I'm not saying he wants to marry me! Why did you get so worked up?click to expand
You’ve already convinced yourself that he hasn’t kissed you because he’s insecure of his teeth and/or is scared of his deep deep feelings towards you.
Meanwhile he’s just trying to have some laughs while he’s on a vaca.
He’s allowed to flirt with someone he just wants to be friends with. What are you, the friend police? Stop reading into it.
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