Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by hellosaggy
I think the biggest issue with sag and aqua is the control aspect. We both like to be in control...
I can see this with an Aqua. I have never seen a Sag admit they have control issues.
I'd say I appreciate the honesty, but I wouldn't expect anything less from a Sag.click to expand
Posted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by hellosaggy
I think the house synastry plays a part. My aries moon is in her 7th house my scorpio venus is in her 5th house and her aqua sun is in my fourth house.... then we have a bunch of things in the second and third....
Very karmatic feeling.... like I normally get annoyed when people talk to me all day every day... with her it's never really bothered me. Even with her... normally she's jumping around and unsettled, she's never been with someone more than a year or so before we started bonding and understanding each other.... I agree its hard finding people that don't want to change you and get you and love you anyway....
Yeah I don't normally push through in relationships. Because I know there will always be more...
Hmmm I should look at house synastry more. Well that’s cool to have a bond like that
Lol I don’t push through either much, but being female and plenty of males initiating that’s not much of a problem. Typically when it’s that comfortable feeling where you just enjoy each other, it’s all good. I am much more of a relationship type Sag ( all that Cap).
But don’t you think that getting hurt 15 years ago has something to do with that?click to expand
Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by hellosaggy
ehh. they rebounded off each other. he broke up with his girl a few months ago too. He's always had a crush on her and she thought it was casual, and she liked the attention, and has now decided to work it out with her ex. He thought it was more than it was. It's only been 2-3 months, she didn't realize how clingy he got until she asked him to give her space and it just got to the point where he's trying to make something work that was in his head.
I've not been privy to all the texts they've shared, but the last two days I've seen some ridiculous ones on his part. She's pretty straight forward when it comes to stuff, and she was pretty honest about what she did and didn't say, nothing she told me she's told him should have made him though she wanted a relationship with him. She is pretty and smart.... he probably just wanted to get with her. and the 10 year thing is why she's trying to not be rude to him, but seems like it's going to have to head there.
I'm curious why you keep referring to yourself in the third person. You are the "ex" she's hoping to go back to are you not?
So, she's picking and choosing which text to show you (e.g. last few days) and telling you what she has conveyed to him to send the message she isn't interested in a relationship. Okay. Was this said before or after he kept the key and was staying over---which she didn't oppose to? Smh.
I can respect that there may be details that you probably haven't shared here. This just sounds off. She isn't being as "straight forward" as you're making her out to be, otherwise she wouldn't have this problem. Straight forward would have been when she returned from her trip, "I would like my key back" and he wouldn't have felt comfortable enough to sit on the couch, let alone lay in her bed until that key was placed back in her hand. Instead she probably half asked for it, he played it off and she let it go. That isn't being direct at all. Straight forward would also been "I packed your things, I need my key you have to leave now. I can drop you off at your parent house if you would like". How on earth did he make it up to the bedroom and in her bed while she's on the couch? Yet she's pretty "straight forward"?
Naw....take a step back because you're seeing her through some rose coloured glasses. Her actions don't match the way that she is either being presented or she is presenting herself.click to expand
Posted by Undine
You must be her ex...she's telling you all the fibs you want to hear.
Posted by -CapriquariusPosted by hellosaggyPosted by -CapriquariusPosted by hellosaggyPosted by -CapriquariusPosted by hellosaggy
Aqua and I had happy hour for a few hours today.
Libra got kicked to curb by his ex about 6 months ago .... Aqua was bored and they rebounded together 3months ago, hes in love with her. Nothing at all emotionally on her side other than knowing each other for 10 years, it was completely casual for her other than being friends.. admitted it was a big mistake that's gotten worse.
Aqua is sick of him but has boundary issues and because of surgery and his helpfulness she's been allowing him to cling for the last 10 days straight at her house.
She told him yesterday he needs to go home and take stuff with him, he cried so she backed off.
She asked me what my intentions were, I said for us to figure things out, she says there needs to be a plan for a ring and a co-owned home together before we seriously get back together. I told her this butter show pushes that back a year until we figure all the issues out. But I would consider traveling to seattle for 4 days for christmas and co-helping her sister. She said it would be easier to stay with him as he's definitely in love with her and she's the dominant one in the relationship. I said anything worth it requires work... either we put it in or we don't I'm fine with either at this point but this toxic relationship you've developed needs to come to an end ASAP, not when you ween him off.
I told her make a decision or walk away she can pick. she tried to call my bluff, I wasn't bluffing I called for the check, and she said just know I can't just get rid of him tonight. How would it look we go to dinner and then as soon as I get home I tell him pack his ish.
Libra apparently hates my guts, hated she went to my house last week and that we had happy hour/dinner tonight. Told her IDGAF and I'll help him pack his stuff if he needs help, she laughed but she knew I was serious.
They fought when she got home just now... then he gave her 130 bucks to get her nails done....smh... libra going to go broke fighting a losing war.
We are doing a lunch/spa day tomorrow... I was going to pay for her nails... guess I don't have to now. saves me some coins.
Good. Now don't back off and let her walk all over you, otherwise she will start to really play games and you will loose it in long run
Funny thing is what I expected she was doing was exactly what she was doing.... I honestly think Aqua women are like Sag men just a little more aloof.
She told me she didn't want me coming over because he would sneak back during lunch time and/or she was afraid I would throw his ish out lol.
Yeah I'm going to bring it up tomorrow again at some point it needs to be a timeline. Why he sent her money is baffling to me. Not my problem. my only concern is he packs his crap and move back home with his parents. I teach a workout class by her house on Tuesdays at 5 am and I work remote with my laptop I told her It would be great if I can stay there Monday night so I don't have to drive 1/2 hour in the middle of the early morning and half an hour back when she's 5 minutes away.
I get they've been friends for 10 years... but now all I see him as is a problem. Nothing she can do is going to stop him from being upset so handle it.
"She asked me what my intentions were, I said for us to figure things out, she says there needs to be a plan for a ring and a co-owned home together before we seriously get back together."
I understand she couldn't trust you, but now you gave her finger and she wants hand.
It's actually the other way around. I can't trust her lol. well it's more so I need to see her commitment, she's the one that walked away. I understand after 4 years we need to "do something".... I'm conscious of that (secretly I was already thinking that and talking about it with a few friends/parents about a year ago)... she didn't know obviously, but now she wants to have the serious "what are we doing" conversation after the horse left the barn.
I told her, let's see how things progress, but its in the cards. Honest, but aware of the problem... see how it goes for a year.
A funny conversation we had was she feels I "controlled" her to the point where she's outgrown her friends. I "made" her get back in school - now she enjoys it and is getting her masters, be fiscally responsible - good credit now and she's excited about it, and focus on herself and obtaining goals -- um duh.. I basically became a more authoritative figure than a partner. I shrugged and was like I call that holding you accountable for standards for yourself and who I am a partner with, if I didn't see your abilities and potential I would never have interacted with you. You say its controlling(because I forced it on you), I say its being a good partner.
Her friends are irresponsible, no ambition, not really "friends", and immature. She's grown up a lot since being with me, and she's tried to revert back to her "self", but realizes that she needs to leave pretty much all of them in the past and its caused a big conflict for her realizing she doesn't really have friends, just people she enjoyed hanging with. As she's now the top person in her acquaintance pool, she's constantly being asked for things and because of her boundary issues, they are taking advantage of her.
Well that's what I mean. After you giving her a promise of commitment, she should leave this guy and show you can trust her too, insted it sounds like she's doing deal with you " if you promise me ring, I will leave this guy ".click to expand