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She is trying to be honest with you. Listen to me, if you want any chance with this Leeb just stop all contact from this point on. If you leave her alone she will come to you. DO NOT CONTACT HER, I repeat DO NOT CONTACT HER. When we are in a state of confusion it is best to leave us alone until we sort ourselves out and contact you. Contacting and pressuring a Libra will make us hate you. Leave her alone and she will come to you. I would suggest that when she does contact you that you don't be in a hurry to get back to her, ignore her a bit.

Where she talks about “red flags” it’s like ok are you saying you’re trying or thinking of coming back while seeing if things will work out? Cause if you are we need to be on the same page of things or things aren’t going to seem like theyre different??

“Well we were talking then when I said what are you saving for?, you changed subject and ignored me. Then today I followed up with you just don’t reply and honestly this is a big red flag of everything is the same and nothing is different. One difference is I don’t need to sit around and feel this way I can just drop it and keep at my own thing. So whatever. See ya.”

This situation is too far gone. Drop her ass and don't look back.

This type of butter is why don't mess with libra women too much - they're not long-term relationship/friendship material.
At least for me (aries/taurus)

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You’ve had similar experiences I take it?

Posted by tiziani
The issue is still the same as the beginning. Set a boundary.

Your relationship is like a hotel entrance: she can come and go as she pleases.

It's not about being a hardass or ignoring her imo.

You can be real and show you want to work it out AND remain firm about holding her to account for own actions too. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

Anytime she comes back and wants to talk like nothing happened, just be real and ask her straight up what's making her get in touch with you. If she tries to throw it back at you, tell her straight up you want to work it out and ask her again until she shows she knows what she wants. Never budge from this.

If she has no answers and is vague about what she wants, say no more. That's the boundary.

Exactly it has been that way, all on her terms and rules, she’s such a controlling person and will admit it no problem. It’s hard to talk to her cause once I do she doesn’t wanna talk about anything, she has to be the one to bring it up. She gets upset over most things I do and like how you said comes back at some point like nothing happened. It sucks because it treetrunks with me mentally, ill be thinking “well that’s it I screw up yet again and now she’s pissed and totally done” but calls me a couple days later all happy about how she’s buying an travel trailer and what not. Like what.

It seems like she’s going out of her way to do all the things we had planned on doing at some point, remodel the house, get a travel trailer, CCW class.. it’s like wtf

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She is trying to be honest with you. Listen to me, if you want any chance with this Leeb just stop all contact from this point on. If you leave her alone she will come to you. DO NOT CONTACT HER, I repeat DO NOT CONTACT HER. When we are in a state of confusion it is best to leave us alone until we sort ourselves out and contact you. Contacting and pressuring a Libra will make us hate you. Leave her alone and she will come to you. I would suggest that when she does contact you that you don't be in a hurry to get back to her, ignore her a bit.

Where she talks about “red flags” it’s like ok are you saying you’re trying or thinking of coming back while seeing if things will work out? Cause if you are we need to be on the same page of things or things aren’t going to seem like theyre different??

“Well we were talking then when I said what are you saving for?, you changed subject and ignored me. Then today I followed up with you just don’t reply and honestly this is a big red flag of everything is the same and nothing is different. One difference is I don’t need to sit around and feel this way I can just drop it and keep at my own thing. So whatever. See ya.”

Posted by DonnaLibra
She is trying to be honest with you. Listen to me, if you want any chance with this Leeb just stop all contact from this point on. If you leave her alone she will come to you. DO NOT CONTACT HER, I repeat DO NOT CONTACT HER. When we are in a state of confusion it is best to leave us alone until we sort ourselves out and contact you. Contacting and pressuring a Libra will make us hate you. Leave her alone and she will come to you. I would suggest that when she does contact you that you don't be in a hurry to get back to her, ignore her a bit.

I wish I would of gotten on the day you posted this, she reached out to me to tell me how she’s getting a travel trailer(like how we had planned on doing and went out to look at them) and called me later in the day again on Sunday to tell me she just did a concealed pistol class (we planned on that aswell) and some little more convo here and there, she got upset at me for not telling her what I’m saving up for and planning on doing(I kinda did avoid the question alittle) got upset about it and just went off yesterday over text she was basically looking for a fight and I didn’t play to much into it. Now I’m sitting here going wow I should of just told her what my plans are for the future cause now she’s pissed at me. Idk what to do it’s just ridiculous. I hadn’t responded first thing in the morning when she sent her initial text and she sent another like an hour later saying “...and disappear again. Classic you. Don’t know why I even asked or expected anything to be different”

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Nha. Just helpless Lovers tbh

What do you mean lol

Out of curiosity, how do you think you’d feel seeing a couple that’s been together for 1-2 years or so post a pic really describing their love for the other?

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You've been making the same thread for a year. So weird. The leeb is going to end up dead isnt she

I’m not even lying, every time I read his stuff I think of that crazy Taurus who killed his wife and kids then said ON CAMERA when he KNEW they were dead that he wanted her to come home and they just had a LITTLE argument. Like seriously dude? That’s nuts. 😳
OP you need to stop. One second she’s horrible, the next she did a lot for you, the next you are getting mad at her for not replying right away. Stoppppppp

Calm tf down, he's probably just looking for feedback. You have no idea how this is actually playing out - Don't understand why weird ass ppl on here always look for opportunities to clown on someone.

For a year or whatever it’s been? With the same girl, same situation, same issues. While he’s getting the same answers, same feedback?

Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”😂

And you’re right, I don’t. But no one even knows if she is actually the “evil” one. Who knows if this guy is a crazy, controlling, stalker who knows how to play the game of “I’m the good guy.” I know some amazing Taurus men, but I also know some that really know how to play that game! It’s crazy. Have you ever met one? They sound so nice and sweet, so loving, but are really so controlling and do nothing for their partner unless it benefits them. They make it seem like it was all them who made the relationship work. So each next partner is feeling bad for them because of the ex who “messed them up.” When really that ex had a lot of reasons to leave them. I don’t know any other sign of man who can do that like a Taurus man can and have people believe them.

Now all Libra women are “evil” because it didn’t work out? Nah, they are not good together. That’s it. She doesn’t represent all Libras.

I think he has a hard time letting go no matter how cruel she is to him. I remember him saying that she didn't let him see their dog. Maybe it's the Taurus stubbornness and resistance for change. I just remembered vaguely about the things he said about her but she didn't seem like a nice person. Could be his perspective of things ofc but despite the bad things about her he can't let her go.

It's easy to say that libras are evil but in reality it's your own choice to put yourself through that. If someone treats you badly you have the choice to respect yourself more and not allow it. If she isn't nice to you now what makes you think she ever will be? And if she is evil then why on earth are you still pining after her lol.

I really am having a terrible time trying to let her go because I don’t want to lose her for the life of me, but maybe it’s just life and I have to accept it no matter how much I don’t.

Everything I’ve put out on these forums is what has happened plain and simple, I don’t try to play victim I just state what has actually happened. She really does do some sideways butter and I just put up with it.

I saw her on Tuesday, in fact went to her house and hung out with her and our dog helped plow the drive way, I asked her why she’s been so hot and cold and tried to get a little more out there but she kept interrupting with comments like “I’m trying to make space, I’m hurt, I don’t have answers right now, I’m just confused”

After I left I got “answers” from her over a text. I never wanted answers I just wanted to be listened to and I told her that at the time but she just wouldn’t let me really get much out about me and her or how I felt

I know you love her and that you're hurting and that it must be really difficult to let her go but I do think that's what you have to do in the end. Even if it takes time (since Taurus move slowly) take that time but slowly let her go. I can tell you one thing. People hardly ever change and if they do they have to realize they are doing something wrong and they have to want to change that. She doesn't so it's like the user above said; you're doing the same thing over and over and expecting different outcome. Also the more you push a libra the more you will push them away. You can't change them. They have to want to change themselves. I don't know about other libras but for me once the feelings are lost you can't get it back again. You know how someone cares about you? It's the little things they do. Like the dog incident. She wouldn't have done that to you if she cared about you. Sorry you're going through this, you deserve better. Remember that.

This is the text I got after I left her place, I never responded to it

Ok, I enjoy you, I always have. I lied that it was a guy calling because I don’t see the point of telling you of any man i May have interest or friends. Mainly because I don’t feel it is your business and I am also in a fragile place that I know I am not ready. Not that it matters but all my friends know that. I hate so much and I also find so much security from you. Which is why you get that push and pull. If it feels wrong I can stop and just walk away.

She seems confused. What I'm getting from that text is that she is hanging on to you because you're what she knows and that gives her security but you're not necessarily who she wants. I think you should reply to her and tell her that yes she needs to stop contacting you. It's preventing you from moving on because everytime she does something nice you get your hopes up again.

I know the problem is that you also don't want to let go because you keep hoping she will change her mind but if you want another outcome you need to break the cycle. Only you can make that decision but I don't think you two will have the happy ending you so badly want. Sorry

My bet though is that if you tell her to leave you alone she won't respect that because she is selfish and in that way you can tell if she really cares about you or not. My ex told me not to contact him anymore because it was preventing him from moving on and I respected that even though I missed him. I want him to be happy more than anything. When you care about someone you want that person to be happy. She seems more concerned about what you can do for her than what she can do for you.

She had said at one point that it just feels good to not have to fight to be the best thing in my life and to not have to explain herself all the time. I disagree but didn’t say that. She really did show a lot of love and I feel extremely bad for being so stubborn on the thought I put in my head that she owed me something. I explained that to her and asked that she just think about my words and told her I still loved her. I was expecting a text at some point saying something like it’s all done and we need to move on. I actually just got a text finally today saying she cancelled our Costco membership because her parents need a new pharmacy and she’s getting on a membership with them.

Personally I think she’s done

Yeh it does seems like she is done. Libras are not known to be very direct. She probably doesn't want to hurt you. Her canceling your membership card is showing that she is moving on.

I think you need to give yourself some time and be alone and heal. I know it's hard but don't focus so much on her. Focus on you and other things in your life that bring you joy.

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I feel like she is pretty direct though just knowing her personally, maybe more so depending on her mood I guess?? But normally pretty direct. And who knows maybe they really do want to go to Costco for the pharmacy I know her parents don’t have a membership and her mom often asks her to take her there

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You've been making the same thread for a year. So weird. The leeb is going to end up dead isnt she

I’m not even lying, every time I read his stuff I think of that crazy Taurus who killed his wife and kids then said ON CAMERA when he KNEW they were dead that he wanted her to come home and they just had a LITTLE argument. Like seriously dude? That’s nuts. 😳
OP you need to stop. One second she’s horrible, the next she did a lot for you, the next you are getting mad at her for not replying right away. Stoppppppp

Calm tf down, he's probably just looking for feedback. You have no idea how this is actually playing out - Don't understand why weird ass ppl on here always look for opportunities to clown on someone.

For a year or whatever it’s been? With the same girl, same situation, same issues. While he’s getting the same answers, same feedback?

Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”😂

And you’re right, I don’t. But no one even knows if she is actually the “evil” one. Who knows if this guy is a crazy, controlling, stalker who knows how to play the game of “I’m the good guy.” I know some amazing Taurus men, but I also know some that really know how to play that game! It’s crazy. Have you ever met one? They sound so nice and sweet, so loving, but are really so controlling and do nothing for their partner unless it benefits them. They make it seem like it was all them who made the relationship work. So each next partner is feeling bad for them because of the ex who “messed them up.” When really that ex had a lot of reasons to leave them. I don’t know any other sign of man who can do that like a Taurus man can and have people believe them.

Now all Libra women are “evil” because it didn’t work out? Nah, they are not good together. That’s it. She doesn’t represent all Libras.

I think he has a hard time letting go no matter how cruel she is to him. I remember him saying that she didn't let him see their dog. Maybe it's the Taurus stubbornness and resistance for change. I just remembered vaguely about the things he said about her but she didn't seem like a nice person. Could be his perspective of things ofc but despite the bad things about her he can't let her go.

It's easy to say that libras are evil but in reality it's your own choice to put yourself through that. If someone treats you badly you have the choice to respect yourself more and not allow it. If she isn't nice to you now what makes you think she ever will be? And if she is evil then why on earth are you still pining after her lol.

I really am having a terrible time trying to let her go because I don’t want to lose her for the life of me, but maybe it’s just life and I have to accept it no matter how much I don’t.

Everything I’ve put out on these forums is what has happened plain and simple, I don’t try to play victim I just state what has actually happened. She really does do some sideways butter and I just put up with it.

I saw her on Tuesday, in fact went to her house and hung out with her and our dog helped plow the drive way, I asked her why she’s been so hot and cold and tried to get a little more out there but she kept interrupting with comments like “I’m trying to make space, I’m hurt, I don’t have answers right now, I’m just confused”

After I left I got “answers” from her over a text. I never wanted answers I just wanted to be listened to and I told her that at the time but she just wouldn’t let me really get much out about me and her or how I felt

I know you love her and that you're hurting and that it must be really difficult to let her go but I do think that's what you have to do in the end. Even if it takes time (since Taurus move slowly) take that time but slowly let her go. I can tell you one thing. People hardly ever change and if they do they have to realize they are doing something wrong and they have to want to change that. She doesn't so it's like the user above said; you're doing the same thing over and over and expecting different outcome. Also the more you push a libra the more you will push them away. You can't change them. They have to want to change themselves. I don't know about other libras but for me once the feelings are lost you can't get it back again. You know how someone cares about you? It's the little things they do. Like the dog incident. She wouldn't have done that to you if she cared about you. Sorry you're going through this, you deserve better. Remember that.

This is the text I got after I left her place, I never responded to it

Ok, I enjoy you, I always have. I lied that it was a guy calling because I don’t see the point of telling you of any man i May have interest or friends. Mainly because I don’t feel it is your business and I am also in a fragile place that I know I am not ready. Not that it matters but all my friends know that. I hate so much and I also find so much security from you. Which is why you get that push and pull. If it feels wrong I can stop and just walk away.

She seems confused. What I'm getting from that text is that she is hanging on to you because you're what she knows and that gives her security but you're not necessarily who she wants. I think you should reply to her and tell her that yes she needs to stop contacting you. It's preventing you from moving on because everytime she does something nice you get your hopes up again.

I know the problem is that you also don't want to let go because you keep hoping she will change her mind but if you want another outcome you need to break the cycle. Only you can make that decision but I don't think you two will have the happy ending you so badly want. Sorry

My bet though is that if you tell her to leave you alone she won't respect that because she is selfish and in that way you can tell if she really cares about you or not. My ex told me not to contact him anymore because it was preventing him from moving on and I respected that even though I missed him. I want him to be happy more than anything. When you care about someone you want that person to be happy. She seems more concerned about what you can do for her than what she can do for you.

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She had said at one point that it just feels good to not have to fight to be the best thing in my life and to not have to explain herself all the time. I disagree but didn’t say that. She really did show a lot of love and I feel extremely bad for being so stubborn on the thought I put in my head that she owed me something. I explained that to her and asked that she just think about my words and told her I still loved her. I was expecting a text at some point saying something like it’s all done and we need to move on. I actually just got a text finally today saying she cancelled our Costco membership because her parents need a new pharmacy and she’s getting on a membership with them.

Personally I think she’s done

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You've been making the same thread for a year. So weird. The leeb is going to end up dead isnt she

I’m not even lying, every time I read his stuff I think of that crazy Taurus who killed his wife and kids then said ON CAMERA when he KNEW they were dead that he wanted her to come home and they just had a LITTLE argument. Like seriously dude? That’s nuts. 😳
OP you need to stop. One second she’s horrible, the next she did a lot for you, the next you are getting mad at her for not replying right away. Stoppppppp

Calm tf down, he's probably just looking for feedback. You have no idea how this is actually playing out - Don't understand why weird ass ppl on here always look for opportunities to clown on someone.

For a year or whatever it’s been? With the same girl, same situation, same issues. While he’s getting the same answers, same feedback?

Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”😂

And you’re right, I don’t. But no one even knows if she is actually the “evil” one. Who knows if this guy is a crazy, controlling, stalker who knows how to play the game of “I’m the good guy.” I know some amazing Taurus men, but I also know some that really know how to play that game! It’s crazy. Have you ever met one? They sound so nice and sweet, so loving, but are really so controlling and do nothing for their partner unless it benefits them. They make it seem like it was all them who made the relationship work. So each next partner is feeling bad for them because of the ex who “messed them up.” When really that ex had a lot of reasons to leave them. I don’t know any other sign of man who can do that like a Taurus man can and have people believe them.

Now all Libra women are “evil” because it didn’t work out? Nah, they are not good together. That’s it. She doesn’t represent all Libras.

I think he has a hard time letting go no matter how cruel she is to him. I remember him saying that she didn't let him see their dog. Maybe it's the Taurus stubbornness and resistance for change. I just remembered vaguely about the things he said about her but she didn't seem like a nice person. Could be his perspective of things ofc but despite the bad things about her he can't let her go.

It's easy to say that libras are evil but in reality it's your own choice to put yourself through that. If someone treats you badly you have the choice to respect yourself more and not allow it. If she isn't nice to you now what makes you think she ever will be? And if she is evil then why on earth are you still pining after her lol.

I really am having a terrible time trying to let her go because I don’t want to lose her for the life of me, but maybe it’s just life and I have to accept it no matter how much I don’t.

Everything I’ve put out on these forums is what has happened plain and simple, I don’t try to play victim I just state what has actually happened. She really does do some sideways butter and I just put up with it.

I saw her on Tuesday, in fact went to her house and hung out with her and our dog helped plow the drive way, I asked her why she’s been so hot and cold and tried to get a little more out there but she kept interrupting with comments like “I’m trying to make space, I’m hurt, I don’t have answers right now, I’m just confused”

After I left I got “answers” from her over a text. I never wanted answers I just wanted to be listened to and I told her that at the time but she just wouldn’t let me really get much out about me and her or how I felt

I know you love her and that you're hurting and that it must be really difficult to let her go but I do think that's what you have to do in the end. Even if it takes time (since Taurus move slowly) take that time but slowly let her go. I can tell you one thing. People hardly ever change and if they do they have to realize they are doing something wrong and they have to want to change that. She doesn't so it's like the user above said; you're doing the same thing over and over and expecting different outcome. Also the more you push a libra the more you will push them away. You can't change them. They have to want to change themselves. I don't know about other libras but for me once the feelings are lost you can't get it back again. You know how someone cares about you? It's the little things they do. Like the dog incident. She wouldn't have done that to you if she cared about you. Sorry you're going through this, you deserve better. Remember that.

This is the text I got after I left her place, I never responded to it

Ok, I enjoy you, I always have. I lied that it was a guy calling because I don’t see the point of telling you of any man i May have interest or friends. Mainly because I don’t feel it is your business and I am also in a fragile place that I know I am not ready. Not that it matters but all my friends know that. I hate so much and I also find so much security from you. Which is why you get that push and pull. If it feels wrong I can stop and just walk away.

She seems confused. What I'm getting from that text is that she is hanging on to you because you're what she knows and that gives her security but you're not necessarily who she wants. I think you should reply to her and tell her that yes she needs to stop contacting you. It's preventing you from moving on because everytime she does something nice you get your hopes up again.

I know the problem is that you also don't want to let go because you keep hoping she will change her mind but if you want another outcome you need to break the cycle. Only you can make that decision but I don't think you two will have the happy ending you so badly want. Sorry

My bet though is that if you tell her to leave you alone she won't respect that because she is selfish and in that way you can tell if she really cares about you or not. My ex told me not to contact him anymore because it was preventing him from moving on and I respected that even though I missed him. I want him to be happy more than anything. When you care about someone you want that person to be happy. She seems more concerned about what you can do for her than what she can do for you.

Yeah there’s definitely been times it’s really come across as me needing to tend to her every need and emotion and once it gets to such a petty point and I go “ok seriously?” Then the problems arise. She’d meet my needs but I guess thinking back on it a good portion was probably her doing just enough or something and playing it out longer than it should of been to suit me.

I’ve been contemplating on deleting her on Facebook/instagram/Snapchat and seeing what may come from that. Her bestfriend told me stop answering all her calls and texts and make her realize what she’s losing. Idk if all that will actually happen.

She has to know the butter she’s pulling on me, it seems every time I call her out she has no idea what to do or say until she can hide behind a text.

She’s been all over Facebook today with the relationship and love meme posts, friend of mine tells me she does that cause she knows I’ll see it, who knows though

You're letting her actions determine your actions. Don't do that. That's why I told you to cut the contact because you can't move on if you keep seeing her posts and thinking it's about you. And even if you told her to leave you alone you still have to see her posts and that will just prevent you from moving on.

I told you she is selfish right? Why would she even post those things knowing you can see it when she knows how you feel about her. If she can't give you what you want at least she can do the decent thing and let you try to find happiness with someone else.

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I saw her again yesterday and I was able to talk more, I don’t want to push her to much that she just up and runs. But I told her how I wished she listened to me before things happened and hadn’t ran to everyone else to talk to them and get their input on things to sway her decisions. I was somewhat guilty of the same and told her that.

She told me I really hurt her because I had held resentment against her from the first break up and wanted some form of significant love from her. selfish of me but I put it in my mind that I deserved it for waiting and fighting so long. It caused me to be somewhat distant and not put in my full effort. I had already explained right before the break up I didn’t realize how much I was letting it effect us and how I was going to drop it but that didn’t change anything

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You've been making the same thread for a year. So weird. The leeb is going to end up dead isnt she

I’m not even lying, every time I read his stuff I think of that crazy Taurus who killed his wife and kids then said ON CAMERA when he KNEW they were dead that he wanted her to come home and they just had a LITTLE argument. Like seriously dude? That’s nuts. 😳
OP you need to stop. One second she’s horrible, the next she did a lot for you, the next you are getting mad at her for not replying right away. Stoppppppp

Calm tf down, he's probably just looking for feedback. You have no idea how this is actually playing out - Don't understand why weird ass ppl on here always look for opportunities to clown on someone.

For a year or whatever it’s been? With the same girl, same situation, same issues. While he’s getting the same answers, same feedback?

Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”😂

And you’re right, I don’t. But no one even knows if she is actually the “evil” one. Who knows if this guy is a crazy, controlling, stalker who knows how to play the game of “I’m the good guy.” I know some amazing Taurus men, but I also know some that really know how to play that game! It’s crazy. Have you ever met one? They sound so nice and sweet, so loving, but are really so controlling and do nothing for their partner unless it benefits them. They make it seem like it was all them who made the relationship work. So each next partner is feeling bad for them because of the ex who “messed them up.” When really that ex had a lot of reasons to leave them. I don’t know any other sign of man who can do that like a Taurus man can and have people believe them.

Now all Libra women are “evil” because it didn’t work out? Nah, they are not good together. That’s it. She doesn’t represent all Libras.

I think he has a hard time letting go no matter how cruel she is to him. I remember him saying that she didn't let him see their dog. Maybe it's the Taurus stubbornness and resistance for change. I just remembered vaguely about the things he said about her but she didn't seem like a nice person. Could be his perspective of things ofc but despite the bad things about her he can't let her go.

It's easy to say that libras are evil but in reality it's your own choice to put yourself through that. If someone treats you badly you have the choice to respect yourself more and not allow it. If she isn't nice to you now what makes you think she ever will be? And if she is evil then why on earth are you still pining after her lol.

I really am having a terrible time trying to let her go because I don’t want to lose her for the life of me, but maybe it’s just life and I have to accept it no matter how much I don’t.

Everything I’ve put out on these forums is what has happened plain and simple, I don’t try to play victim I just state what has actually happened. She really does do some sideways butter and I just put up with it.

I saw her on Tuesday, in fact went to her house and hung out with her and our dog helped plow the drive way, I asked her why she’s been so hot and cold and tried to get a little more out there but she kept interrupting with comments like “I’m trying to make space, I’m hurt, I don’t have answers right now, I’m just confused”

After I left I got “answers” from her over a text. I never wanted answers I just wanted to be listened to and I told her that at the time but she just wouldn’t let me really get much out about me and her or how I felt

I know you love her and that you're hurting and that it must be really difficult to let her go but I do think that's what you have to do in the end. Even if it takes time (since Taurus move slowly) take that time but slowly let her go. I can tell you one thing. People hardly ever change and if they do they have to realize they are doing something wrong and they have to want to change that. She doesn't so it's like the user above said; you're doing the same thing over and over and expecting different outcome. Also the more you push a libra the more you will push them away. You can't change them. They have to want to change themselves. I don't know about other libras but for me once the feelings are lost you can't get it back again. You know how someone cares about you? It's the little things they do. Like the dog incident. She wouldn't have done that to you if she cared about you. Sorry you're going through this, you deserve better. Remember that.

This is the text I got after I left her place, I never responded to it

Ok, I enjoy you, I always have. I lied that it was a guy calling because I don’t see the point of telling you of any man i May have interest or friends. Mainly because I don’t feel it is your business and I am also in a fragile place that I know I am not ready. Not that it matters but all my friends know that. I hate so much and I also find so much security from you. Which is why you get that push and pull. If it feels wrong I can stop and just walk away.

She seems confused. What I'm getting from that text is that she is hanging on to you because you're what she knows and that gives her security but you're not necessarily who she wants. I think you should reply to her and tell her that yes she needs to stop contacting you. It's preventing you from moving on because everytime she does something nice you get your hopes up again.

I know the problem is that you also don't want to let go because you keep hoping she will change her mind but if you want another outcome you need to break the cycle. Only you can make that decision but I don't think you two will have the happy ending you so badly want. Sorry

My bet though is that if you tell her to leave you alone she won't respect that because she is selfish and in that way you can tell if she really cares about you or not. My ex told me not to contact him anymore because it was preventing him from moving on and I respected that even though I missed him. I want him to be happy more than anything. When you care about someone you want that person to be happy. She seems more concerned about what you can do for her than what she can do for you.

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Yeah there’s definitely been times it’s really come across as me needing to tend to her every need and emotion and once it gets to such a petty point and I go “ok seriously?” Then the problems arise. She’d meet my needs but I guess thinking back on it a good portion was probably her doing just enough or something and playing it out longer than it should of been to suit me.

I’ve been contemplating on deleting her on Facebook/instagram/Snapchat and seeing what may come from that. Her bestfriend told me stop answering all her calls and texts and make her realize what she’s losing. Idk if all that will actually happen.

She has to know the butter she’s pulling on me, it seems every time I call her out she has no idea what to do or say until she can hide behind a text.

She’s been all over Facebook today with the relationship and love meme posts, friend of mine tells me she does that cause she knows I’ll see it, who knows though

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You've been making the same thread for a year. So weird. The leeb is going to end up dead isnt she

I’m not even lying, every time I read his stuff I think of that crazy Taurus who killed his wife and kids then said ON CAMERA when he KNEW they were dead that he wanted her to come home and they just had a LITTLE argument. Like seriously dude? That’s nuts. 😳
OP you need to stop. One second she’s horrible, the next she did a lot for you, the next you are getting mad at her for not replying right away. Stoppppppp

Calm tf down, he's probably just looking for feedback. You have no idea how this is actually playing out - Don't understand why weird ass ppl on here always look for opportunities to clown on someone.

For a year or whatever it’s been? With the same girl, same situation, same issues. While he’s getting the same answers, same feedback?

Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”😂

And you’re right, I don’t. But no one even knows if she is actually the “evil” one. Who knows if this guy is a crazy, controlling, stalker who knows how to play the game of “I’m the good guy.” I know some amazing Taurus men, but I also know some that really know how to play that game! It’s crazy. Have you ever met one? They sound so nice and sweet, so loving, but are really so controlling and do nothing for their partner unless it benefits them. They make it seem like it was all them who made the relationship work. So each next partner is feeling bad for them because of the ex who “messed them up.” When really that ex had a lot of reasons to leave them. I don’t know any other sign of man who can do that like a Taurus man can and have people believe them.

Now all Libra women are “evil” because it didn’t work out? Nah, they are not good together. That’s it. She doesn’t represent all Libras.

I think he has a hard time letting go no matter how cruel she is to him. I remember him saying that she didn't let him see their dog. Maybe it's the Taurus stubbornness and resistance for change. I just remembered vaguely about the things he said about her but she didn't seem like a nice person. Could be his perspective of things ofc but despite the bad things about her he can't let her go.

It's easy to say that libras are evil but in reality it's your own choice to put yourself through that. If someone treats you badly you have the choice to respect yourself more and not allow it. If she isn't nice to you now what makes you think she ever will be? And if she is evil then why on earth are you still pining after her lol.

I really am having a terrible time trying to let her go because I don’t want to lose her for the life of me, but maybe it’s just life and I have to accept it no matter how much I don’t.

Everything I’ve put out on these forums is what has happened plain and simple, I don’t try to play victim I just state what has actually happened. She really does do some sideways butter and I just put up with it.

I saw her on Tuesday, in fact went to her house and hung out with her and our dog helped plow the drive way, I asked her why she’s been so hot and cold and tried to get a little more out there but she kept interrupting with comments like “I’m trying to make space, I’m hurt, I don’t have answers right now, I’m just confused”

After I left I got “answers” from her over a text. I never wanted answers I just wanted to be listened to and I told her that at the time but she just wouldn’t let me really get much out about me and her or how I felt

I know you love her and that you're hurting and that it must be really difficult to let her go but I do think that's what you have to do in the end. Even if it takes time (since Taurus move slowly) take that time but slowly let her go. I can tell you one thing. People hardly ever change and if they do they have to realize they are doing something wrong and they have to want to change that. She doesn't so it's like the user above said; you're doing the same thing over and over and expecting different outcome. Also the more you push a libra the more you will push them away. You can't change them. They have to want to change themselves. I don't know about other libras but for me once the feelings are lost you can't get it back again. You know how someone cares about you? It's the little things they do. Like the dog incident. She wouldn't have done that to you if she cared about you. Sorry you're going through this, you deserve better. Remember that.

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This is the text I got after I left her place, I never responded to it

Ok, I enjoy you, I always have. I lied that it was a guy calling because I don’t see the point of telling you of any man i May have interest or friends. Mainly because I don’t feel it is your business and I am also in a fragile place that I know I am not ready. Not that it matters but all my friends know that. I hate so much and I also find so much security from you. Which is why you get that push and pull. If it feels wrong I can stop and just walk away.

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The other thing to remember is this Libra would not hang around waiting on you. Block her and ghost her then you might get her to show some emotion towards you. Shock her.

That’s what I’m thinking of doing, I saw her on Tuesday and was asking why she was so hot and cold and pulling me and pushing away, she would let me speak much cause she kept interrupting saying “she’s trying to make space, I’m hurt, I’m confused, I don’t have answers” I didn’t get to say much of what I wanted to get out cause she kept insinuating we go play with the dog before she had to go. This is the text I got after I left.

“Ok, I enjoy you, I always have. I lied that it was a guy calling because I don’t see the point of telling you of any man i May have interest or friends. Mainly because I don’t feel it is your business and I am also in a fragile place that I know I am not ready. Not that it matters but all my friends know that. I hate so much and I also find so much security from you. Which is why you get that push and pull. If it feels wrong I can stop and just walk away. ”

I never responded

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You've been making the same thread for a year. So weird. The leeb is going to end up dead isnt she

I’m not even lying, every time I read his stuff I think of that crazy Taurus who killed his wife and kids then said ON CAMERA when he KNEW they were dead that he wanted her to come home and they just had a LITTLE argument. Like seriously dude? That’s nuts. 😳
OP you need to stop. One second she’s horrible, the next she did a lot for you, the next you are getting mad at her for not replying right away. Stoppppppp

Calm tf down, he's probably just looking for feedback. You have no idea how this is actually playing out - Don't understand why weird ass ppl on here always look for opportunities to clown on someone.

For a year or whatever it’s been? With the same girl, same situation, same issues. While he’s getting the same answers, same feedback?

Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”😂

And you’re right, I don’t. But no one even knows if she is actually the “evil” one. Who knows if this guy is a crazy, controlling, stalker who knows how to play the game of “I’m the good guy.” I know some amazing Taurus men, but I also know some that really know how to play that game! It’s crazy. Have you ever met one? They sound so nice and sweet, so loving, but are really so controlling and do nothing for their partner unless it benefits them. They make it seem like it was all them who made the relationship work. So each next partner is feeling bad for them because of the ex who “messed them up.” When really that ex had a lot of reasons to leave them. I don’t know any other sign of man who can do that like a Taurus man can and have people believe them.

Now all Libra women are “evil” because it didn’t work out? Nah, they are not good together. That’s it. She doesn’t represent all Libras.

I think he has a hard time letting go no matter how cruel she is to him. I remember him saying that she didn't let him see their dog. Maybe it's the Taurus stubbornness and resistance for change. I just remembered vaguely about the things he said about her but she didn't seem like a nice person. Could be his perspective of things ofc but despite the bad things about her he can't let her go.

It's easy to say that libras are evil but in reality it's your own choice to put yourself through that. If someone treats you badly you have the choice to respect yourself more and not allow it. If she isn't nice to you now what makes you think she ever will be? And if she is evil then why on earth are you still pining after her lol.

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I really am having a terrible time trying to let her go because I don’t want to lose her for the life of me, but maybe it’s just life and I have to accept it no matter how much I don’t.

Everything I’ve put out on these forums is what has happened plain and simple, I don’t try to play victim I just state what has actually happened. She really does do some sideways butter and I just put up with it.

I saw her on Tuesday, in fact went to her house and hung out with her and our dog helped plow the drive way, I asked her why she’s been so hot and cold and tried to get a little more out there but she kept interrupting with comments like “I’m trying to make space, I’m hurt, I don’t have answers right now, I’m just confused”

After I left I got “answers” from her over a text. I never wanted answers I just wanted to be listened to and I told her that at the time but she just wouldn’t let me really get much out about me and her or how I felt

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What I’m saying is

Libra woman tend to attract Taurus men and never seem to be on the same page

This entire post makes no sense

Like all my relationships with Bulls

Taurus is too slow for us. Not mentally just too slow in keeping us interested for long. I find Aries men handle Libra women the best. They make us want them.

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I’ve heard of this, in what way do you mean they make you want them? Like what is it about them that does that

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I’ve seen a handful of topics about this before and dealing with my ex I can only think, you’re either really indecisive and change your mind every couple of minutes or you know what your doing and it’s just cruel. Shame on me for being so head over heals for her and answering her every call or text tho.

I was in another state visiting family, polar vortex starts coming in and she calls me, telling me weathers gonna be terrible, can I start your truck for you so there’s no issues for when you get back, if their is give me a call I’ll be there for you, texts me whole time she’s at work asks me to stay up for when she’s off to make sure she gets home safely. FaceTimed me when she’s off. Next day posts two pics of pages in a book she must be reading on her FB and insta about how pain is temporary, don’t social media stalk, don’t call/text and don’t answer them, the pain will go away. Confused, I tried calling her when I had gotten back, never got back to me. Posts all over Facebook right after I called. Day after that walk into the gym she sees me and comes right up to me and gives me a hug and starts joking around like nothing ever happened.

I do not get it

Being indecisive and changing your mind (fickle) are not the same things. Why do you care though? You both aren’t even together any more. Looks like you can’t detach (obviously).

I don’t ship Taurus & Libra at all. Why don’t you leave her alone and go on with your life.

I’ve been trying to but I love her to death, and every time I’m starting to accept things, something happens again we’re she reaches out and makes it seem like things are gonna turn around

I know it's easy for everyone to tell you to just leave her alone (because we're not in your situation). And you have some feelings for her, which of course makes it hard for you. But try to look at the big picture, everything she's done to you, etc. Can you really, honestly, see yourself with her 10 years from now, in a good relationship?

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Honestly I really could. I feel like if she was willing to give it another try and for us to hash things out and let the past be the past and start fresh like how we’d plan every so often(she always brought things back up from the past, clean slate didn’t really work out the few times we tried for the most part) I really do think we could make it

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I’ve seen a handful of topics about this before and dealing with my ex I can only think, you’re either really indecisive and change your mind every couple of minutes or you know what your doing and it’s just cruel. Shame on me for being so head over heals for her and answering her every call or text tho.

I was in another state visiting family, polar vortex starts coming in and she calls me, telling me weathers gonna be terrible, can I start your truck for you so there’s no issues for when you get back, if their is give me a call I’ll be there for you, texts me whole time she’s at work asks me to stay up for when she’s off to make sure she gets home safely. FaceTimed me when she’s off. Next day posts two pics of pages in a book she must be reading on her FB and insta about how pain is temporary, don’t social media stalk, don’t call/text and don’t answer them, the pain will go away. Confused, I tried calling her when I had gotten back, never got back to me. Posts all over Facebook right after I called. Day after that walk into the gym she sees me and comes right up to me and gives me a hug and starts joking around like nothing ever happened.

I do not get it

Kinda Trash behavior imo.

Evil might not be the right word -to be politically correct abt it. More so, pettiness immaturity and a reluctance towards taking responsibility for anything. Stupid ppl

You’re right evil probably isn’t the best word to us but you’re right with what you said, she WILL NOT take responsibility for her actions if their seen as negative or deface her image. But if she does something good expects praise for weeks about it.

Idk what to do besides let go and get her out of my life but that’s the absolute last thing I wanna do😔

She wants to store my boat at her house until spring time aswell, I probably should of got it before the snow came..

Well she also doesn't sound like the worst person in the world lol. I probably wouldn't be too upset if this type of thing doesn't happen very often and that she's an overall good addition to your life. Look at the positives too !

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No she’s definitely done some really amazing things for me and my family, and when we lived together for instance if I got sick she was all over it and there for me like no other, we reciprocated that kind of love and attention to each other, it was amazing. But at the same time even when we were dating, she’d play these games or set me up(or her friends/family) for failure and use it against us. She’s an amazing person but I’ve kinda come to realize over time she’s more so the type to hold the door open for the praise, not necessarily the good in it.

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yes this is what happens when Taurus has too many expectations of Libra - it is what it is and it can be frustrating for some. I think my Cap Moon helps me because I enjoy the space me and my Libra experience

I don’t think it’s expectations of her, it’s more the her reaching out in some way to make it seem like things are turning around or getting better, and than doing something (usually next day) to totally turn everything around and just go cold. Like wtf? Obviously I love her still so it kinda hurts

And I remember you talking about your ex libra best friend and how they were

yep that is how they are sometimes

I honestly don’t get it😔

Like if you ended it(over poor reasoning IMO) like why still reach out and do this butter. She even FaceTimed my dad like a few weeks ago at some bar to show him it?

there are no answers to some people's madness

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I still wonder if she’ll try and come back at some point in time.

She doesn’t like it when I basically go MIA, she’ll end up texting me something to get a reply.

Everyone keeps telling me the more I ignore her the more she’ll probably come back. They say don’t respond to make her realize what she lost.

Idk if I do that, if that’ll happen..

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I’ve seen a handful of topics about this before and dealing with my ex I can only think, you’re either really indecisive and change your mind every couple of minutes or you know what your doing and it’s just cruel. Shame on me for being so head over heals for her and answering her every call or text tho.

I was in another state visiting family, polar vortex starts coming in and she calls me, telling me weathers gonna be terrible, can I start your truck for you so there’s no issues for when you get back, if their is give me a call I’ll be there for you, texts me whole time she’s at work asks me to stay up for when she’s off to make sure she gets home safely. FaceTimed me when she’s off. Next day posts two pics of pages in a book she must be reading on her FB and insta about how pain is temporary, don’t social media stalk, don’t call/text and don’t answer them, the pain will go away. Confused, I tried calling her when I had gotten back, never got back to me. Posts all over Facebook right after I called. Day after that walk into the gym she sees me and comes right up to me and gives me a hug and starts joking around like nothing ever happened.

I do not get it

Being indecisive and changing your mind (fickle) are not the same things. Why do you care though? You both aren’t even together any more. Looks like you can’t detach (obviously).

I don’t ship Taurus & Libra at all. Why don’t you leave her alone and go on with your life.

I’ve been trying to but I love her to death, and every time I’m starting to accept things, something happens again we’re she reaches out and makes it seem like things are gonna turn around

And who’s fault is it for believing this every time?

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Unfortunately mine

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yes this is what happens when Taurus has too many expectations of Libra - it is what it is and it can be frustrating for some. I think my Cap Moon helps me because I enjoy the space me and my Libra experience

I don’t think it’s expectations of her, it’s more the her reaching out in some way to make it seem like things are turning around or getting better, and than doing something (usually next day) to totally turn everything around and just go cold. Like wtf? Obviously I love her still so it kinda hurts

And I remember you talking about your ex libra best friend and how they were

I spent a long time with the Libra bff. I hope she's happy now but I refuse to be friends with her anymore because she was disappointing to me. Now I have a Libra mate. He has some soft similar traits but not to the extreme she was - with her "what seemed like total self absorption" just got real old finally for me.

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That’s what her ex bff told me a few weeks ago, my ex texted her to see if she’d come hang out for some get together with another mutual friend and she straight up told her, you’re a toxic person, you’ve tried to control my life and manipulate me and castrated me when you didn’t get your way. I’m done with it you’re no longer in my life.

I was like damn😳 they were best friends since like kindergarten