The U.S. is 100% heading for collapse

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As stated in the title, we're pretty much close to a complete collapse. The US looks exactly like ancient Rome during their crisis.

Home-ownership/Apartments - Pretty self explainatory. No need to beat a dead horse, everyone knows housing is ridiculous in all aspects. Foreign Companies own tons of homes now and they're just vacant.

Inflation - Wasn't real to begin with, companies arbitrarily increased prices while cutting work billets and saving money. Tons of companies had record profits over the past two years. The media downplayed the entire thing and sought to convince you it's only a 7% or 8% increase. Wages are still well under what they should be and jobs are laying people off. There was a big Tech layoff recently along with ESPN and CNN slashing members.

Radical Military Spending- The Pentagon constantly fails their audits and the spending for the military is out of control. They aren't keeping track of anything and the Air Force recently blew their entire Personnel budget within 6 months. Tons of programs were recently halted and moving members has come to a complete stop amidst the Tuberville abortion crisis (blocking military from moving funds). Throw in spending for Ukraine also.

Financial Instability - The Fed Reserve wants to keep increasing the interest rates which prevents people from spending more money in the economy. The Dollar keeps sinking and isn't backed by anything. Foreign nations are starting to switch their reserve currency over.

Hostile Political Climate - Politics have gotten really heated over the past several years and we're at a point where you must choose between two 80 year old men who are both incompetent. Everyone has become so angry and demand you choose a side. The Supreme Court has made some huge changes recently with Affirmative Action and Abortion. Should I mention Jan 6th??

Food Quality - It's become complete shit after COVID and the USDA recently approved "lab-grown" chicken for consumption. I'm in Florida and the damn Oranges are imported from Brazil that cost $ 10 a bag.

Over-taxation - We pay a crap ton of taxes and there is nothing to show for it. Roads are shitty and education is awful.

1. Sales Tax

2. Municipal/County Tax

3. Property Tax

4. Fuel Tax

5. Income Tax

6. Payroll Tax

7. Tolls

Did I miss anything?
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They always say this and you know what ends up happening?


The rich get richer and the poor get poorer and the middle class gap gets wider away from financial success.


That's what the economy collapse means for the U.S.

The debt ceiling is 31 trillion. How much higher can it go and who is going to pay it?
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The debt ceiling will continue to get higher. It never goes down. I'm not even sure why they keep track of it. It means nothing.

If there is a war in another country, we send 10-20 million dollars to help.

No one cares about a debt ceiling.
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I agree generally with all of this. But a lot of the things you stated are also happening in other countries and have been for awhile too. I think it’s going to boil down to who has the best infrastructure in place to handle all this bullshit for the longest amount of time?

And I don’t care if it sounds ageist or whatever, but blame the fuckin boomers. Period. Look at what is happening around you. They destroyed this country. I only hope that millennials and Gen z can make this better this one day. Can it be fixed, probably not. Idk about Gen X tbh. Kinda feels like a generation of compliant mini boomers.

Imagine them trying to force birth rates among all of this too?? They don’t care about the state of the world, just have babies and figure it out. They took away abortion. And now they are slowly limiting our (women’s) access to birth control. Fuck these boomers, there’s a big BIG reason to be angry right now.
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Very good list.

For me, it all started years ago when the Arts slowly and slowly were stripped from school budgets. police and military spending went up.

I was looking at this documentary on either Argentina, Colombia. I don’t remember which one but this man said when his country started spending more on military and less on the arts, society took a turn.

Creative Arts fuels society and brings us closer. It makes us more vulnerable, more imaginative, more empathetic.

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Hmm I see more than a few issues here that make your argument a bit less of a foregone conclusion.


Housing: Sure, foreign companies owning empty homes is an issue, but it's not the only thing driving housing problems. Zoning laws, income inequality, and population growth play big roles too. The comparison to Rome's collapse? It doesn't quite stick without more detail.


Inflation: Yes, some companies made record profits recently, but inflation isn't a corporate scheme. It's a complex economic beast involving supply and demand, government policies, and global conditions. Also, the media isn't necessarily downplaying it, different outlets have different takes.


Military spending: Absolutely, the military budget could be more transparent and efficient. But connecting this to a societal collapse, like Rome's? That's a stretch. Rome's military issues were more about loyalty, empire size, and external threats.


Financial instability: Interest rate increases and a weaker dollar are serious concerns. But saying that alone predicts economic collapse is quite speculative.


Political climate: Politics are certainly heated, and societal division can cause instability. However, the U.S. has always had its fair share of political disputes without collapsing. And remember, Rome's political system was different.


Food quality: It might not be what it used to be, but linking food quality to societal collapse isn't so clear-cut, especially if we're trying to compare to Rome.


Over-taxation: Taxes might feel high, but it's key to ask—compared to what? And how does this relate to societal collapse?


The bottom line: while these are all real issues, saying they indicate an impending collapse like Rome's is a pretty big leap. We'd need a stronger logical chain to tie them together convincingly.


It's not a big leap, an economical collapse is a drawn out process. Doesn't happen overnight.

Hyperinflation was a big driver of the collapse of Rome. They couldn't figure out how to pay the troops either. We're in a similar situation with the Enlisted members not being able to afford housing and food.

The currency was debased because of the demand for revenue and over the years the government couldn't keep up with the spending. Rather than increase taxes, they expanded the population and allowed foreigners to become citizens. Despite all efforts, all industry and trade was abandoned in Rome and the empire produced nothing itself. Everything became imported and the tax burden fell on the people left in the area.

Rome fell because of inflation, over-regulation and not taxing the wealthy enough.

How does that not sound like the US??
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Posted by __ixi__
Hmm I see more than a few issues here that make your argument a bit less of a foregone conclusion.


Housing: Sure, foreign companies owning empty homes is an issue, but it's not the only thing driving housing problems. Zoning laws, income inequality, and population growth play big roles too. The comparison to Rome's collapse? It doesn't quite stick without more detail.


Inflation: Yes, some companies made record profits recently, but inflation isn't a corporate scheme. It's a complex economic beast involving supply and demand, government policies, and global conditions. Also, the media isn't necessarily downplaying it, different outlets have different takes.


Military spending: Absolutely, the military budget could be more transparent and efficient. But connecting this to a societal collapse, like Rome's? That's a stretch. Rome's military issues were more about loyalty, empire size, and external threats.


Financial instability: Interest rate increases and a weaker dollar are serious concerns. But saying that alone predicts economic collapse is quite speculative.


Political climate: Politics are certainly heated, and societal division can cause instability. However, the U.S. has always had its fair share of political disputes without collapsing. And remember, Rome's political system was different.


Food quality: It might not be what it used to be, but linking food quality to societal collapse isn't so clear-cut, especially if we're trying to compare to Rome.


Over-taxation: Taxes might feel high, but it's key to ask—compared to what? And how does this relate to societal collapse?


The bottom line: while these are all real issues, saying they indicate an impending collapse like Rome's is a pretty big leap. We'd need a stronger logical chain to tie them together convincingly.


As a 20 year degreed economist, his list is a very good start.

Yes he could expand but these are jumping off points.

I could make a blanket statement and say

“The weather will result in economic collapse.”

Now 10 years ago, you’d call me crazy for saying that. It’s not flushed out enough, blah blah… but we’re we lose is not taking things at face value with economics and running with it.

Now look at the USA, California and Florida insurance carriers are pulling out of new policies. The northeast is dealing with hella unprecedented flooding. Texas thinks that their guns will protect them from the glaring sun or blizzards.
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Much like bacterial colonies on a Agar Petri plate, we're reaching critical threshold in competition for resources with other nations. Things are about to get mighty interesting. The resources to waste ratio is about parity.

A bit Malthusian, no? It is not a given that competition for resources will necessarily lead to a crisis when it comes to many species yet alone one as complex as humans. Also the idea that international politics is a zero-sum game is highly suspect for historical reasons.
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Humans aren’t as complex as you would come to believe.

We like to think we’re special because we figured out space travel but nonetheless we are tied to the same environment as an ant.
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They always say this and you know what ends up happening?


The rich get richer and the poor get poorer and the middle class gap gets wider away from financial success.


That's what the economy collapse means for the U.S.


For the life of me, idk how rich people have fundraisers.

Oprah, a billionaire, asking poor people for money is comedy.

Mika Kunis and Ashton Kutcher a king for Ukraine donations make me really question my sanity
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They always say this and you know what ends up happening?

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer and the middle class gap gets wider away from financial success.

That's what the economy collapse means for the U.S.

The debt ceiling is 31 trillion. How much higher can it go and who is going to pay it?
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The debt ceiling will continue to get higher. It never goes down. I'm not even sure why they keep track of it. It means nothing.


If there is a war in another country, we send 10-20 million dollars to help.


No one cares about a debt ceiling.

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AHT AHT.. If the debt-to-GDP ratio becomes too large, investors like foreign governments (China), would be unwilling to hold government bonds. This risk rises as the interest costs on the bonds become a larger percentage of GDP.

America's GDP has been decreasing over the past few years. They would have to reduce spending or increase taxes to get out of this jam.

Which we're now full circle with Rome. Over-taxation, too much spending and the income doesn't match.

Remember, China downgraded us in May for credit rating. The US has a 600 credit score right now.
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They always say this and you know what ends up happening?

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer and the middle class gap gets wider away from financial success.

That's what the economy collapse means for the U.S.
The debt ceiling is 31 trillion. How much higher can it go and who is going to pay it?
click to expand
The debt ceiling will continue to get higher. It never goes down. I'm not even sure why they keep track of it. It means nothing.

If there is a war in another country, we send 10-20 million dollars to help.

No one cares about a debt ceiling.

click to expand

AHT AHT.. If the debt-to-GDP ratio becomes too large, investors like foreign governments (China), would be unwilling to hold government bonds. This risk rises as the interest costs on the bonds become a larger percentage of GDP.


America's GDP has been decreasing over the past few years. They would have to reduce spending or increase taxes to get out of this jam.


Which we're now full circle with Rome. Over-taxation, too much spending and the income doesn't match.
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GDP has not decreased over the past few years, source Federal Reserve.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDP
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They always say this and you know what ends up happening?

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer and the middle class gap gets wider away from financial success.

That's what the economy collapse means for the U.S.
The debt ceiling is 31 trillion. How much higher can it go and who is going to pay it?
click to expand
The debt ceiling will continue to get higher. It never goes down. I'm not even sure why they keep track of it. It means nothing.

If there is a war in another country, we send 10-20 million dollars to help.

No one cares about a debt ceiling.

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AHT AHT.. If the debt-to-GDP ratio becomes too large, investors like foreign governments (China), would be unwilling to hold government bonds. This risk rises as the interest costs on the bonds become a larger percentage of GDP.


America's GDP has been decreasing over the past few years. They would have to reduce spending or increase taxes to get out of this jam.


Which we're now full circle with Rome. Over-taxation, too much spending and the income doesn't match.

GDP has not decreased over the past few years, source Federal Reserve.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDP
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?? Do you not see that big ass dip in 2020
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Americans can stand to take some blame in the rising cost of living. Transplants will relocate to a metro and immediately choose to live in a suburb vs the actual city (engine). Suburban sprawl is costly, increasing commutes, traffic and infrastructure costs. Urban sprawl costs. Disjointed metros are all over the United States. People rather own a vehicle than vote for efficient public transportation. Austin is nearing 1 million and has no rail system.

Low density costs! Americans would rather get inside their vehicles, belly in tow, than live in a walkable area and/or vote for increasing urban density (NIMBYism). So these complaints all seem surface level to me.
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They always say this and you know what ends up happening?

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer and the middle class gap gets wider away from financial success.

That's what the economy collapse means for the U.S.

The debt ceiling is 31 trillion. How much higher can it go and who is going to pay it?

This is a right wing talking point.

Do you ever notice Republicans scream about the debt when a Democrat is in office, but when a Republican is in office, and they blow up the debt (Bush, Trump) nobody says shit?

Also, it's a misconception to think of the national debt the way people think about personal debt. The US prints it's own money. Although defaulting on the debt is not ideal, nobody is going to be knocking on the US government's door threatening to garnish the government's wages or repo their car. .

All that said, obviously, we should find ways on reducing the debt.
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No it’s a tactic Republicans use to waste time and point the finger when people hear the number of the debt ceiling.

If the GDP falls too far behind the debt ceiling, China will back out and this could have serious implications.

US Money isn’t backed by anything and GDP growth has been negative quarters and evens out at 1% . Meanwhile they’re piling on debt 5-6 trillion at a time.
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I agree generally with all of this. But a lot of the things you stated are also happening in other countries and have been for awhile too. I think it’s going to boil down to who has the best infrastructure in place to handle all this bullshit for the longest amount of time?


And I don’t care if it sounds ageist or whatever, but blame the fuckin boomers. Period. Look at what is happening around you. They destroyed this country. I only hope that millennials and Gen z can make this better this one day. Can it be fixed, probably not. Idk about Gen X tbh. Kinda feels like a generation of compliant mini boomers.


Imagine them trying to force birth rates among all of this too?? They don’t care about the state of the world, just have babies and figure it out. They took away abortion. And now they are slowly limiting our (women’s) access to birth control. Fuck these boomers, there’s a big BIG reason to be angry right now.


Something feels so wrong giving birth just so that kid becomes another hamster on the wheel…that’s even if they make it out of school alive
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Americans can stand to take some blame in the rising cost of living. Transplants will relocate to a metro and immediately choose to live in a suburb vs the actual city (engine). Suburban sprawl are costly, increasing commutes, traffic and infrastructure costs. Urban sprawl costs. Disjointed metros are all over the United States. People rather own a vehicle than vote for efficient public transportation. Austin is nearing 1 million and has no rail system.


Low density costs! Americans would rather get inside their vehicles, belly in tow, than live in a walkable area and/or vote for increasing urban density (NIMBYism). So these complaints all seem surface level to me.


Boomers don’t like public transportation
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Americans can stand to take some blame in the rising cost of living. Transplants will relocate to a metro and immediately choose to live in a suburb vs the actual city (engine). Suburban sprawl are costly, increasing commutes, traffic and infrastructure costs. Urban sprawl costs. Disjointed metros are all over the United States. People rather own a vehicle than vote for efficient public transportation. Austin is nearing 1 million and has no rail system.


Low density costs! Americans would rather get inside their vehicles, belly in tow, than live in a walkable area and/or vote for increasing urban density (NIMBYism). So these complaints all seem surface level to me.


The majority of cities are not designed like Europe. Most things aren’t within walking distance and it would require a complete overhaul to change the transportation system. Funding which they don’t have on top of mismanagement of the money they do have.

Not happening over here. Consider the taxes you have to pay on registration and taxes on cars. Would definitely cause a dip in the economy.
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They always say this and you know what ends up happening?

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer and the middle class gap gets wider away from financial success.

That's what the economy collapse means for the U.S.

The debt ceiling is 31 trillion. How much higher can it go and who is going to pay it?
click to expand

The debt ceiling will continue to get higher. It never goes down. I'm not even sure why they keep track of it. It means nothing.


If there is a war in another country, we send 10-20 million dollars to help.


No one cares about a debt ceiling.

AHT AHT.. If the debt-to-GDP ratio becomes too large, investors like foreign governments (China), would be unwilling to hold government bonds. This risk rises as the interest costs on the bonds become a larger percentage of GDP.

America's GDP has been decreasing over the past few years. They would have to reduce spending or increase taxes to get out of this jam.

Which we're now full circle with Rome. Over-taxation, too much spending and the income doesn't match.

Remember, China downgraded us in May for credit rating. The US has a 600 credit score right now.
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And we pulled our business from China and created a trading war. The deficit is a joke.

Look at us threatening to take away TikTok cause Our government can't make money from it.

If you believe what the media is toting about the world economy, I have some land to sell you in Persia at a good price!
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They always say this and you know what ends up happening?


The rich get richer and the poor get poorer and the middle class gap gets wider away from financial success.


That's what the economy collapse means for the U.S.

For the life of me, idk how rich people have fundraisers.

Oprah, a billionaire, asking poor people for money is comedy.

Mika Kunis and Ashton Kutcher a king for Ukraine donations make me really question my sanity
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If you notice, the rich people get heads up when it comes to stocks and those types of things and start redistributing money or selling, then they dump it all back in when it tanks and rinse/repeat to make major profits over and over again.

All those fund raisers and non profits are tax write-offs. But then they pay themselves to create the event lol

The founder is hired by the nonprofit as the executive director. This way, the founder is paid, but they do give up all their authority to the board of directors, which governs the nonprofit.
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Ted Kaczynki was obviously correct. He may one day become the prophet of our entire civilization.

But I fear is instead of a violent revolution or some kind of collapse, people abandon the entire Industrial Revolution by simply NOT BUYING anymore (look Bud Light). Like a new religion starts where people become minimalists, and the entire hegemony of corporations, banks, cities, leftism, etc collapses and dies from hunger.

We were able to support so much people because of Industrial Revolution. Everything has beginning and end. Imagine Industrialism ends all the sudden. We simply starve.

There is no growth of humans in the Western World, the prices of everything will collapse on that alone.

Deflation from that will be insane to a point they will give you Universal Income so that you just keep buying. I doubt this will be sustainable. Humans are already on pills to mask their unhappiness.

It is cruel to build a system that makes humans unhappy, and then give them pills to mask their unhappiness.

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As stated in the title, we're pretty much close to a complete collapse. The US looks exactly like ancient Rome during their crisis.


Home-ownership/Apartments - Pretty self explainatory. No need to beat a dead horse, everyone knows housing is ridiculous in all aspects. Foreign Companies own tons of homes now and they're just vacant.


Inflation - Wasn't real to begin with, companies arbitrarily increased prices while cutting work billets and saving money. Tons of companies had record profits over the past two years. The media downplayed the entire thing and sought to convince you it's only a 7% or 8% increase. Wages are still well under what they should be and jobs are laying people off. There was a big Tech layoff recently along with ESPN and CNN slashing members.


Radical Military Spending- The Pentagon constantly fails their audits and the spending for the military is out of control. They aren't keeping track of anything and the Air Force recently blew their entire Personnel budget within 6 months. Tons of programs were recently halted and moving members has come to a complete stop amidst the Tuberville abortion crisis (blocking military from moving funds). Throw in spending for Ukraine also.


Financial Instability - The Fed Reserve wants to keep increasing the interest rates which prevents people from spending more money in the economy. The Dollar keeps sinking and isn't backed by anything. Foreign nations are starting to switch their reserve currency over.


Hostile Political Climate - Politics have gotten really heated over the past several years and we're at a point where you must choose between two 80 year old men who are both incompetent. Everyone has become so angry and demand you choose a side. The Supreme Court has made some huge changes recently with Affirmative Action and Abortion. Should I mention Jan 6th??


Food Quality - It's become complete shit after COVID and the USDA recently approved "lab-grown" chicken for consumption. I'm in Florida and the damn Oranges are imported from Brazil that cost $ 10 a bag.


Over-taxation - We pay a crap ton of taxes and there is nothing to show for it. Roads are shitty and education is awful.


1. Sales Tax

2. Municipal/County Tax

3. Property Tax

4. Fuel Tax

5. Income Tax

6. Payroll Tax

7. Tolls


Did I miss anything?

Picked up on all of that years ago.

Here is some new ones to add to the list.

Yes.

Bullshit excuses from politicians for their failings and refusing to focus on the real issues. Correcting the systems that created the issue and refusing to adapt to the changing environment.

They refuse to admit they have dug themselves a whole. How can you expect to climb out if you refuse to admit your in one?

The primary one is conflict of interest bring built into the system itself.

Lol and finally, Ostracizing anyone who speaks up and cries fire, that also has a solid game plan😏

Trump was a hail Mary for a lot of people who were feeling this situation unconsciously too. He hit and tapped into to this energy, unfortunately he wasn't serious about changing anything because that would go against his own interest too...lol he is part of the problem himself.

In essence, he was/is a false prophet.
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As stated in the title, we're pretty much close to a complete collapse. The US looks exactly like ancient Rome during their crisis.

Home-ownership/Apartments - Pretty self explainatory. No need to beat a dead horse, everyone knows housing is ridiculous in all aspects. Foreign Companies own tons of homes now and they're just vacant.

Inflation - Wasn't real to begin with, companies arbitrarily increased prices while cutting work billets and saving money. Tons of companies had record profits over the past two years. The media downplayed the entire thing and sought to convince you it's only a 7% or 8% increase. Wages are still well under what they should be and jobs are laying people off. There was a big Tech layoff recently along with ESPN and CNN slashing members.

Radical Military Spending- The Pentagon constantly fails their audits and the spending for the military is out of control. They aren't keeping track of anything and the Air Force recently blew their entire Personnel budget within 6 months. Tons of programs were recently halted and moving members has come to a complete stop amidst the Tuberville abortion crisis (blocking military from moving funds). Throw in spending for Ukraine also.

Financial Instability - The Fed Reserve wants to keep increasing the interest rates which prevents people from spending more money in the economy. The Dollar keeps sinking and isn't backed by anything. Foreign nations are starting to switch their reserve currency over.

Hostile Political Climate - Politics have gotten really heated over the past several years and we're at a point where you must choose between two 80 year old men who are both incompetent. Everyone has become so angry and demand you choose a side. The Supreme Court has made some huge changes recently with Affirmative Action and Abortion. Should I mention Jan 6th??

Food Quality - It's become complete shit after COVID and the USDA recently approved "lab-grown" chicken for consumption. I'm in Florida and the damn Oranges are imported from Brazil that cost $ 10 a bag.

Over-taxation - We pay a crap ton of taxes and there is nothing to show for it. Roads are shitty and education is awful.

1. Sales Tax

2. Municipal/County Tax

3. Property Tax

4. Fuel Tax

5. Income Tax

6. Payroll Tax

7. Tolls

Did I miss anything?

Picked up on all of that years ago.

Here is some new ones to add to the list.


Yes.

Bullshit excuses from politicians for their failings and refusing to focus on the real issues. Correcting the systems that created the issue and refusing to adapt to the changing environment.

They refuse to admit they have dug themselves a whole. How can you expect to climb out if you refuse to admit your in one?

The primary one is conflict of interest bring built into the system itself.

Lol and finally, Ostracizing anyone who speaks up and cries fire, that also has a solid game plan😏


Trump was a hail Mary for a lot of people who were feeling this situation unconsciously too. He hit and tapped into to this energy, unfortunately he wasn't serious about changing anything because that would go against his own interest too...lol he is part of the problem himself.

In essence, he was/is a false prophet.

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“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves.” Matthew 7:15.

Trump and Biden ravening wolves 😂🥴



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As stated in the title, we're pretty much close to a complete collapse. The US looks exactly like ancient Rome during their crisis.

Home-ownership/Apartments - Pretty self explainatory. No need to beat a dead horse, everyone knows housing is ridiculous in all aspects. Foreign Companies own tons of homes now and they're just vacant.

Inflation - Wasn't real to begin with, companies arbitrarily increased prices while cutting work billets and saving money. Tons of companies had record profits over the past two years. The media downplayed the entire thing and sought to convince you it's only a 7% or 8% increase. Wages are still well under what they should be and jobs are laying people off. There was a big Tech layoff recently along with ESPN and CNN slashing members.

Radical Military Spending- The Pentagon constantly fails their audits and the spending for the military is out of control. They aren't keeping track of anything and the Air Force recently blew their entire Personnel budget within 6 months. Tons of programs were recently halted and moving members has come to a complete stop amidst the Tuberville abortion crisis (blocking military from moving funds). Throw in spending for Ukraine also.

Financial Instability - The Fed Reserve wants to keep increasing the interest rates which prevents people from spending more money in the economy. The Dollar keeps sinking and isn't backed by anything. Foreign nations are starting to switch their reserve currency over.

Hostile Political Climate - Politics have gotten really heated over the past several years and we're at a point where you must choose between two 80 year old men who are both incompetent. Everyone has become so angry and demand you choose a side. The Supreme Court has made some huge changes recently with Affirmative Action and Abortion. Should I mention Jan 6th??

Food Quality - It's become complete shit after COVID and the USDA recently approved "lab-grown" chicken for consumption. I'm in Florida and the damn Oranges are imported from Brazil that cost $ 10 a bag.

Over-taxation - We pay a crap ton of taxes and there is nothing to show for it. Roads are shitty and education is awful.

1. Sales Tax

2. Municipal/County Tax

3. Property Tax

4. Fuel Tax

5. Income Tax

6. Payroll Tax

7. Tolls

Did I miss anything?

Picked up on all of that years ago.

Here is some new ones to add to the list.


Yes.

Bullshit excuses from politicians for their failings and refusing to focus on the real issues. Correcting the systems that created the issue and refusing to adapt to the changing environment.

They refuse to admit they have dug themselves a whole. How can you expect to climb out if you refuse to admit your in one?

The primary one is conflict of interest bring built into the system itself.

Lol and finally, Ostracizing anyone who speaks up and cries fire, that also has a solid game plan😏


Trump was a hail Mary for a lot of people who were feeling this situation unconsciously too. He hit and tapped into to this energy, unfortunately he wasn't serious about changing anything because that would go against his own interest too...lol he is part of the problem himself.

In essence, he was/is a false prophet.

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Trump explained multiple times how he gets the tax breaks and benefits from the system. Nobody takes it serious.

Yes, essentially he's a false prophet. I would argue he's instrumental in this pending collapse.. 2024 will be very interesting.
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As stated in the title, we're pretty much close to a complete collapse. The US looks exactly like ancient Rome during their crisis.

Home-ownership/Apartments - Pretty self explainatory. No need to beat a dead horse, everyone knows housing is ridiculous in all aspects. Foreign Companies own tons of homes now and they're just vacant.

Inflation - Wasn't real to begin with, companies arbitrarily increased prices while cutting work billets and saving money. Tons of companies had record profits over the past two years. The media downplayed the entire thing and sought to convince you it's only a 7% or 8% increase. Wages are still well under what they should be and jobs are laying people off. There was a big Tech layoff recently along with ESPN and CNN slashing members.

Radical Military Spending- The Pentagon constantly fails their audits and the spending for the military is out of control. They aren't keeping track of anything and the Air Force recently blew their entire Personnel budget within 6 months. Tons of programs were recently halted and moving members has come to a complete stop amidst the Tuberville abortion crisis (blocking military from moving funds). Throw in spending for Ukraine also.

Financial Instability - The Fed Reserve wants to keep increasing the interest rates which prevents people from spending more money in the economy. The Dollar keeps sinking and isn't backed by anything. Foreign nations are starting to switch their reserve currency over.

Hostile Political Climate - Politics have gotten really heated over the past several years and we're at a point where you must choose between two 80 year old men who are both incompetent. Everyone has become so angry and demand you choose a side. The Supreme Court has made some huge changes recently with Affirmative Action and Abortion. Should I mention Jan 6th??

Food Quality - It's become complete shit after COVID and the USDA recently approved "lab-grown" chicken for consumption. I'm in Florida and the damn Oranges are imported from Brazil that cost $ 10 a bag.

Over-taxation - We pay a crap ton of taxes and there is nothing to show for it. Roads are shitty and education is awful.

1. Sales Tax

2. Municipal/County Tax

3. Property Tax

4. Fuel Tax

5. Income Tax

6. Payroll Tax

7. Tolls

Did I miss anything?

Picked up on all of that years ago.

Here is some new ones to add to the list.


Yes.

Bullshit excuses from politicians for their failings and refusing to focus on the real issues. Correcting the systems that created the issue and refusing to adapt to the changing environment.

They refuse to admit they have dug themselves a whole. How can you expect to climb out if you refuse to admit your in one?

The primary one is conflict of interest bring built into the system itself.

Lol and finally, Ostracizing anyone who speaks up and cries fire, that also has a solid game plan😏


Trump was a hail Mary for a lot of people who were feeling this situation unconsciously too. He hit and tapped into to this energy, unfortunately he wasn't serious about changing anything because that would go against his own interest too...lol he is part of the problem himself.

In essence, he was/is a false prophet.

Trump explained multiple times how he gets the tax breaks and benefits from the system. Nobody takes it serious.

Yes, essentially he's a false prophet. I would argue he's instrumental in this pending collapse.. 2024 will be very interesting.
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Tax breaks are fine. They exist for a reason.

That's is the only positive thing I can say about trump. He doesn't hide his bullshit.

It's the way he cheats the system, steal, and over all corruption he flaunts. He is a manifestation of the institutional corruption that's effecting us.

This is also why no new laws have been made to outlaw what he did and is doing. That would be against their self interest. Those who DO see this seem to be afraid to speak up and fight it. They need support.



I'm not apposed to a collapse, however, it would be unnecessary suffering. I do see some try and some states change some laws.

Really need more people to speak up and stand up for those people who are doing something about it.