Aquadeer
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Honestly, I'm not even sure why we do the things we do. I don't even know if it's on a conscious level. So my answer is this, NO, you may not CONTROL my emotions, or my life choices. You will not DECIDE if I'm hurting or happy. You will have no CONTROL over my feelings about a situations, they are my feelings. So if you think, I'm not good enough, or just fucking crazy, so be it. Because at the end of the day, I CONTROL who I am and that's good enough for me.
Maybe, next time you're dealing with your Aqua (other) be honest, loyal, loving, put in effort and definitely call us out on our shit, but don't ever CONTROL us.
Again, I can't speak for all Aqua's, only me.
Honestly, I'm not even sure why we do the things we do. I don't even know if it's on a conscious level. So my answer is this, NO, you may not CONTROL my emotions, or my life choices. You will not DECIDE if I'm hurting or happy. You will have no CONTROL over my feelings about a situations, they are my feelings. So if you think, I'm not good enough, or just fucking crazy, so be it. Because at the end of the day, I CONTROL who I am and that's good enough for me.
Maybe, next time you're dealing with your Aqua (other) be honest, loyal, loving, put in effort and definitely call us out on our shit, but don't ever CONTROL us.
Again, I can't speak for all Aqua's, only me.
I can relate to this quite well. How strong of an influence is your moon? venus or mars or certain aspects? I never share negativity, I try not too, because I share your sentiments. For me it's figuring out why it's negative and how I can address it, I prefer to keep things internal because exactly right, I don't want someone to control my thinking patterns.
Even as I say that things zig zag through my brain. The whole idea of a seed. We're all going to make a conclusion about something, is the thought formed purely from nothing in our brains or did it form at some point during our lives and our environment.
But part of human nature is to bond. Aquarius isn't exempt from that. We all require validation of some sort. There's only so much you can hold in before things crack and shatter. Maybe we offload it in a different way with our 'brutal' honesty.
I get it's a self-centred decision. I'm okay with that when I'm by myself. Then I consider I don't really live a life of solidarity. As much as it is our tendency to think we're unique we all conform in one way or another, following the rules set by others? Why, because total chaos would be a pretty bad thing.
Actually I'm going to end the post here. I think my brain's way too scattered.
Even as I say that things zig zag through my brain. The whole idea of a seed. We're all going to make a conclusion about something, is the thought formed purely from nothing in our brains or did it form at some point during our lives and our environment.
But part of human nature is to bond. Aquarius isn't exempt from that. We all require validation of some sort. There's only so much you can hold in before things crack and shatter. Maybe we offload it in a different way with our 'brutal' honesty.
I get it's a self-centred decision. I'm okay with that when I'm by myself. Then I consider I don't really live a life of solidarity. As much as it is our tendency to think we're unique we all conform in one way or another, following the rules set by others? Why, because total chaos would be a pretty bad thing.
Actually I'm going to end the post here. I think my brain's way too scattered.
Yep don't mind me I'm batshit crazy. I'll never attempt to type out what I'm thinking anymore.
I'm pretty sure my Pisces moon play's a big influence on me (overly emotional). My venus is Sagittarius and my mars is aquarius. I have my chart back home (in another state).
You said,
But part of human nature is to bond. Aquarius isn't exempt from that. We all require validation of some sort. There's only so much you can hold in before things crack and shatter. Maybe we offload it in a different way with our 'brutal' honesty.
My response,
Yes, I agree we do require some sort of validation, I know for me, it help me realize that all this pain and love is not for nothing. I feel there are times, I don't always say what needs to be said, because I don't want to hurt the other persons feelings, but I've notice by doing this it kills me, to not say what I need to say. I eventually say it, but sometimes is not in a positive manner.
haha, my brain feels pretty scattered, too.
You said,
But part of human nature is to bond. Aquarius isn't exempt from that. We all require validation of some sort. There's only so much you can hold in before things crack and shatter. Maybe we offload it in a different way with our 'brutal' honesty.
My response,
Yes, I agree we do require some sort of validation, I know for me, it help me realize that all this pain and love is not for nothing. I feel there are times, I don't always say what needs to be said, because I don't want to hurt the other persons feelings, but I've notice by doing this it kills me, to not say what I need to say. I eventually say it, but sometimes is not in a positive manner.
haha, my brain feels pretty scattered, too.
Posted by tiziani
Making an effort to know better why we do what we do is more or less the entire spirit of self-control in a nutshell, by my understanding.
So I feel you're having a conversation with your own demons.
Anyway I share a generous relationship with Uranus throughout my entire chart, and I sit on the Aqua decan. I can't be put in a box.
That could possible be true, the every day frustrations of being an Aqua. I will own that shit!!! lol
Totally, I think to simplify what I was thinking I would say when I'm sitting on my fence it's hard to back one side over the other without appreciating the entire scenery or my little pond where I dwell, a cesspool of emotions while others dump stuff in my pond, it's hard to see what's what.
How's that for my two major signs ha!
I've been trying to work out my aquarius nature - no kidding. Haven't gotten much progress. Control is a big issue for me. That includes what really controls my life and it entails so much.
How's that for my two major signs ha!
I've been trying to work out my aquarius nature - no kidding. Haven't gotten much progress. Control is a big issue for me. That includes what really controls my life and it entails so much.
Posted by tiziani
Making an effort to know better why we do what we do is more or less the entire spirit of self-control in a nutshell, by my understanding.
So I feel you're having a conversation with your own demons.
Anyway I share a generous relationship with Uranus throughout my entire chart, and I sit on the Aqua decan. I can't be put in a box.
I thought you sat on a golden fence! 😛
Sometimes we do stupid things for love. If we want to remove emotions then I agree it can be viewed as a form of control but that is exactly why aquarius are so odd. You seem to realise that but for whatever reason you guys always align to one side or another.
To me you've always embodied your sun and moon equally, sometimes it might smell fishy.
Posted by aquasnoz
I've been trying to work out my aquarius nature - no kidding. Haven't gotten much progress. Control is a big issue for me. That includes what really controls my life and it entails so much.
To me you've always embodied your sun and moon equally, sometimes it might smell fishy.
Don't bother trying to control any part of an Aquarian, it's not going to happen, that could be annoying to some.
WE REALLY don't care what others think. It's not even fake. That is also annoying.
WE REALLY don't care what others think. It's not even fake. That is also annoying.
Posted by ZelaleZ
I love Aquarius ppl. Love them. They might be confusing to some, but to me it's exciting and challenging.
Aw, thanks. We love everyone (sometimes) 😉
My dad being a Leo, wasn't controlling until I became a teenager. He soon realized I danced to the beat of my own drum. He let me live my life and gave me life lessons along the way.
My best friend a Leo is very controlling but realized I do what I want, when I want. She encourages me and gives me advice on what she thinks should be done.
We all have our flaws and being able to understand and accept people for who they are is always a plus.
I have a Progressed Sun/Mercury/MC in Aqua. Was Raised by Aquas and have a Saturn in Aqua aspecting my Moon. Also Uranus Aspecting Sun/Moon/Mars/Neptune.
May I share input on this discussion?
May I share input on this discussion?
Posted by SirHorns
I have a Progressed Sun/Mercury/MC in Aqua. Was Raised by Aquas and have a Saturn in Aqua aspecting my Moon. Also Uranus Aspecting Sun/Moon/Mars/Neptune.
May I share input on this discussion?
Absolutely, Only if it's positive 😉 kidding. It's a forum, good or bad. It is what it is.
Posted by GG
You all have a "god complex." You think you know everything once your ego's kick in. The truth is the only thing that's really special about you is that concentration comes easily for you guy's...That's it!
You don't deserve a statue made in your honor for it, you definitely don't deserve a street named after you for it either but some of you really walk like there should be a statue made in your honor.
I've come across the Aquarius manipulation a few times. It leaves a bad taste in your mouth. It doesn't feel good at all.
With that said, I like Aqua's. You are good people. You have your flaws like the rest of us. We all have flaws!
I'm pretty sure it's suppose to be positive and than negative. lol.
Why would I want a street named after me, when I could have a God damn country named after me. 😛
All Kidding aside (on my part) I respect your opinion, I don't necessarily agree with that being my case or other aqua's I know. However, no one's perfect and I'm sure there are plenty of people that act that way with the same sign or not.
Posted by DonAmanMarat
We analyze people from afar...
Code words: look, listen, and learn.
NOTHING gets by us!
For sure and I often feel that's my downfall because it leads to me over analyzing everything.
Posted by Aquadeer
I'm pretty sure my Pisces moon play's a big influence on me (overly emotional).
I keep hearing this, and I just don't think it's true.
I get this visual of some simpering basket-case carting around a box of kleenex, and I just don't identify.
I think Pisces moons may be affected by things that don't affect (or even register with) other people.
But you can look at the posts by the Pisces moon's around here, and judge for yourself.
You don't have to own that nonsense.
I think the Aquarian/Pisces combination would be an interesting one.
The Aquarian Humanitarian—
Or maybe that would be the Libra moon-- idk 😛
I THINK THIS THREAD IS SOOOOO IRONIC AND BLATANTLY HIGHLIGHTS THE FLAWS OF AQUARIUS FOLK. Ok, OP, you are frustrated because you feel that others are trying to control and manipulate you eeehhhh? But do you realize that YOU YOURSELF ARE BEING CONTROLLING—? It is one thing to control your own emotions and things but it is another thing when you attempt to control other people's emotions (but cutting them off, ignoring them, button pushing, blowing hot and cold...you know...basic behaviors of aquas). Do you realize that that behavior is an attempt at CONTROLLING OTHERS— And this is probably why so many people "hate" aquas. It's almost like you guys can analyze everyone else, in multiple situations, on multiple levels, but it seems like you guys cannot completely execute this when evaluating yourselves. Most aquas I know are great at pointing out everyone elses shit but cannot recognize that they are in the same boat or even worse, on a small raft in the middle of a raging storm.
And another thing, sometimes, no matter how much objectivity to apply to the situation, you can be wrong about things. Maybe people weren't trying to manipulate and control you. Maybe they were being common humans that wanted to be attended to or loved or touched...and maybe common human insecurities/vulnerabilities look like control and manipulation to you. Ever thought of it that way? Sometimes aqua folks can be too skeptical,too suspicious, too distrusting. Most of this comes from the aquas internal need to control and not the other way around. Sometimes aqua folks need to be more versed in emotional intelligence. That's some good shit, think about it. nd for the record, everyone doesn't hate aquas.
And another thing, sometimes, no matter how much objectivity to apply to the situation, you can be wrong about things. Maybe people weren't trying to manipulate and control you. Maybe they were being common humans that wanted to be attended to or loved or touched...and maybe common human insecurities/vulnerabilities look like control and manipulation to you. Ever thought of it that way? Sometimes aqua folks can be too skeptical,too suspicious, too distrusting. Most of this comes from the aquas internal need to control and not the other way around. Sometimes aqua folks need to be more versed in emotional intelligence. That's some good shit, think about it. nd for the record, everyone doesn't hate aquas.
Posted by GG
You all have a "god complex." You think you know everything once your ego's kick in. The truth is the only thing that's really special about you is that concentration comes easily for you guy's...That's it!
You don't deserve a statue made in your honor for it, you definitely don't deserve a street named after you for it either but some of you really walk like there should be a statue made in your honor.
I've come across the Aquarius manipulation a few times. It leaves a bad taste in your mouth. It doesn't feel good at all.
With that said, I like Aqua's. You are good people. You have your flaws like the rest of us. We all have flaws!
+1000
We my mom is a Scorpio Sun/Aqua mooner and my dad is a Aqua. We all did our own thing. Always. Fights were funny, since you already knew they were going to do what they believed was right. I do the same. Either reality proves me wrong or I'm right. Consequences for mistakes being handled with dignity (and angst).
Saturn rules Capricorn and Aquarius (along with Uranus). Saturn is the great teacher, fear, ego and anxiety is faced. Challenges are met. Iron wills are forged with disciplined masters cutting through all that stands in the way of their life's purpose/mission/passion. Emotional frailty isn't tolerated. Crying and pouting solves nothing. Hence why both signs can do emotional repression like pros. Both can put aside their emotions in order to get things done. Putting aside doesn't deal with it though, which can cause depression among other unpleasant things in both. To indulge in raw emotions, means losing control. Both signs hate that. To top it off, the cold, detached appearance we have to others, hides the unpleasant reality known as our emotional wants/needs. Mastering ourselves and allowing ourselves to indulge in our emotions is a challenge.
We hate the look of it. We don't want to be slaves it to. It's seen as a problem we haven't solved yet. Saturn is not the Moon or Venus, coddling and hugs for emotions is not our style . Even if we know we love those, doing those kinds of things make us feel unnatural. It's a pleasure that threatens to get in the way of our business.
Saturn rules Capricorn and Aquarius (along with Uranus). Saturn is the great teacher, fear, ego and anxiety is faced. Challenges are met. Iron wills are forged with disciplined masters cutting through all that stands in the way of their life's purpose/mission/passion. Emotional frailty isn't tolerated. Crying and pouting solves nothing. Hence why both signs can do emotional repression like pros. Both can put aside their emotions in order to get things done. Putting aside doesn't deal with it though, which can cause depression among other unpleasant things in both. To indulge in raw emotions, means losing control. Both signs hate that. To top it off, the cold, detached appearance we have to others, hides the unpleasant reality known as our emotional wants/needs. Mastering ourselves and allowing ourselves to indulge in our emotions is a challenge.
We hate the look of it. We don't want to be slaves it to. It's seen as a problem we haven't solved yet. Saturn is not the Moon or Venus, coddling and hugs for emotions is not our style . Even if we know we love those, doing those kinds of things make us feel unnatural. It's a pleasure that threatens to get in the way of our business.
Well sometimes one has got to let go of that illusion, that control and let things workout naturally.
A lot of aquas I know pay a heavy price for being so darn controlling. Some of them are SSSOOOOO inauthentic, so fake (only a few people truly know their real face, without the mask). Some have personality disorders. Some are depressed and have heavy anxiety. This all comes from their need to control, their ruling passions to always be right/be in control, to feel superior/keep their self-esteem in tact, to not be rejected/feel secure, to cherish rage/to seek justice.
I mean, EVERYONE has these issues and insecurities of course, but the awakening begins with self-realization.
A lot of aquas I know pay a heavy price for being so darn controlling. Some of them are SSSOOOOO inauthentic, so fake (only a few people truly know their real face, without the mask). Some have personality disorders. Some are depressed and have heavy anxiety. This all comes from their need to control, their ruling passions to always be right/be in control, to feel superior/keep their self-esteem in tact, to not be rejected/feel secure, to cherish rage/to seek justice.
I mean, EVERYONE has these issues and insecurities of course, but the awakening begins with self-realization.
Posted by aquasnoz
Yep don't mind me I'm batshit crazy. I'll never attempt to type out what I'm thinking anymore.
LOL
Same
Posted by iamwhatiam
I THINK THIS THREAD IS SOOOOO IRONIC AND BLATANTLY HIGHLIGHTS THE FLAWS OF AQUARIUS FOLK. Ok, OP, you are frustrated because you feel that others are trying to control and manipulate you eeehhhh? But do you realize that YOU YOURSELF ARE BEING CONTROLLING—? It is one thing to control your own emotions and things but it is another thing when you attempt to control other people's emotions (but cutting them off, ignoring them, button pushing, blowing hot and cold...you know...basic behaviors of aquas). Do you realize that that behavior is an attempt at CONTROLLING OTHERS— ...
And another thing, sometimes, no matter how much objectivity to apply to the situation, you can be wrong about things. Maybe people weren't trying to manipulate and control you. Maybe they were being common humans that wanted to be attended to or loved or touched...and maybe common human insecurities/vulnerabilities look like control and manipulation to you. Ever thought of it that way? Sometimes aqua folks can be too skeptical,too suspicious, too distrusting. Most of this comes from the aquas internal need to control and not the other way around. Sometimes aqua folks need to be more versed in emotional intelligence. That's some good shit, think about it. And for the record, everyone doesn't hate aquas.
Okay, let me address these for you.
Cutting out/Ignoring = Defense Mechanism
Caps/Aquas are Saturn ruled, we are softies at heart. When you hurt us, we shut down to avoid hurting you with a knee-jerk retaliation. We would tear your ego, principles, way of life and your own emotionalism with no mercy if we gave into that and didn't shut you out.
button pushing, blowing hot and cold
You pissed an Aqua off. They won't smack you or use guilt by saying you hurt them emotionally. They have Pride. They demand themselves to be above those reactions. However they won't let you get away with being an ass to them, hence behavior.
Maybe they were being common humans that wanted to be attended to or loved or touched...and maybe common human insecurities/vulnerabilities look like control and manipulation to you.
Saturn ruled Sign. Take that shit to Moon,Venus or Jupiter Ruled Signs.
We don't let emotions get in the way, so when others do it, it feels/looks like a cope out to us.
Sometimes aqua folks can be too skeptical,too suspicious,
Posted by iamwhatiam
I THINK THIS THREAD IS SOOOOO IRONIC AND BLATANTLY HIGHLIGHTS THE FLAWS OF AQUARIUS FOLK. Ok, OP, you are frustrated because you feel that others are trying to control and manipulate you eeehhhh? But do you realize that YOU YOURSELF ARE BEING CONTROLLING—? It is one thing to control your own emotions and things but it is another thing when you attempt to control other people's emotions (but cutting them off, ignoring them, button pushing, blowing hot and cold...you know...basic behaviors of aquas). Do you realize that that behavior is an attempt at CONTROLLING OTHERS— And this is probably why so many people "hate" aquas. It's almost like you guys can analyze everyone else, in multiple situations, on multiple levels, but it seems like you guys cannot completely execute this when evaluating yourselves. Most aquas I know are great at pointing out everyone elses shit but cannot recognize that they are in the same boat or even worse, on a small raft in the middle of a raging storm.
I find it rather interesting @iamwhatiam that people that feel and aqua is controlling them, are the ones that are or have been in a relationship with them. So I will say this, I only control myself. If you feel that we are controlling you by the various traits you have stated above, well that's your own issues.
The purpose of my thread was to bring insight of who we are and why we do the things we do, as I stated before I can't speak for all aqua's.
The mistake you made is assuming that we are not aware of out flaws, when in fact we are (well I know I am) very aware of our flaws. I don't pretend to be perfect, I own the good and the bad, I am what I am. Everyone, has their own issues, good traits, bad traits and the all in between traits. It's how we learn from them, that we are able to fully grow as an individual and have honest, loving relationships with other people. So it is Ironic and blatantly highlights all the negative aspect that you feel aqua's are. The truth of the matter is this, you can't make (Control) us be versed in emotional Intelligence to feed your own ego. Now that's some good shit ^ think about that. BTW I never said everyone hates Aqua's, however there's a bunch of that do.
There's a bunch of YOU that do.*
Posted by MontgomeryPosted by Aquadeer
I'm pretty sure my Pisces moon play's a big influence on me (overly emotional).
I keep hearing this, and I just don't think it's true.
I get this visual of some simpering basket-case carting around a box of kleenex, and I just don't identify.
I think Pisces moons may be affected by things that don't affect (or even register with) other people.
But you can look at the posts by the Pisces moon's around here, and judge for yourself.
You don't have to own that nonsense.
I think the Aquarian/Pisces combination would be an interesting one.
The Aquarian Humanitarian—
Or maybe that would be the Libra moon-- idk 😛
click to expand
You're probably right, I've only recently learned about the moon and other planets contributing to our character. I have to learn more about it.
Defense Mechanism=CONTROL
And aquas don't always just so easily ignore. Most of the time their..."pride" gets in the way and they bite...and their bite comes with rabies. And most of the time they bite because of some story they've cooked up in their heads, a story that is far from the truth. And at that point it isn't about defending yourself, it's just about being mean and trying to hurt the other person.
Button Pushing/Blowing Hot and Cold
Partially true, BUT! This also happens when they are trying to guess your next step before it happens and once again CONTROL the situation. This is their idea of figuring you out, of figuring your motives, ticks etc etc blah blah blah bullshit bullshit bullshit.
Maybe they were being...""
"We don't let emotions get in the way, so when others do it, it feels/looks like a cope out to us" Quite frankly, it may LOOK like that to you, but it may NOT BE THE TRUTH! What your perception is may not be reality!
And aquas don't always just so easily ignore. Most of the time their..."pride" gets in the way and they bite...and their bite comes with rabies. And most of the time they bite because of some story they've cooked up in their heads, a story that is far from the truth. And at that point it isn't about defending yourself, it's just about being mean and trying to hurt the other person.
Button Pushing/Blowing Hot and Cold
Partially true, BUT! This also happens when they are trying to guess your next step before it happens and once again CONTROL the situation. This is their idea of figuring you out, of figuring your motives, ticks etc etc blah blah blah bullshit bullshit bullshit.
Maybe they were being...""
"We don't let emotions get in the way, so when others do it, it feels/looks like a cope out to us" Quite frankly, it may LOOK like that to you, but it may NOT BE THE TRUTH! What your perception is may not be reality!
Posted by SirHornsPosted by iamwhatiam
I THINK THIS THREAD IS SOOOOO IRONIC AND BLATANTLY HIGHLIGHTS THE FLAWS OF AQUARIUS FOLK. Ok, OP, you are frustrated because you feel that others are trying to control and manipulate you eeehhhh? But do you realize that YOU YOURSELF ARE BEING CONTROLLING—? It is one thing to control your own emotions and things but it is another thing when you attempt to control other people's emotions (but cutting them off, ignoring them, button pushing, blowing hot and cold...you know...basic behaviors of aquas). Do you realize that that behavior is an attempt at CONTROLLING OTHERS— ...
And another thing, sometimes, no matter how much objectivity to apply to the situation, you can be wrong about things. Maybe people weren't trying to manipulate and control you. Maybe they were being common humans that wanted to be attended to or loved or touched...and maybe common human insecurities/vulnerabilities look like control and manipulation to you. Ever thought of it that way? Sometimes aqua folks can be too skeptical,too suspicious, too distrusting. Most of this comes from the aquas internal need to control and not the other way around. Sometimes aqua folks need to be more versed in emotional intelligence. That's some good shit, think about it. And for the record, everyone doesn't hate aquas.click to expand
Okay, let me address these for you.
Cutting out/Ignoring = Defense Mechanism
Caps/Aquas are Saturn ruled, we are softies at heart. When you hurt us, we shut down to avoid hurting you with a knee-jerk retaliation. We would tear your ego, principles, way of life and your own emotionalism with no mercy if we gave into that and didn't shut you out.
button pushing, blowing hot and cold
You pissed an Aqua off. They won't smack you or use guilt by saying you hurt them emotionally. They have Pride. They demand themselves to be above those reactions. However they won't let you get away with being an ass to them, hence behavior.
Maybe they were being common humans that wanted to be attended to or loved or touched...and maybe common human insecurities/vulnerabilities look like control and manipulation to you.
Saturn ruled Sign. Take that shit to Moon,Venus or Jupiter Ruled Signs.
We don't let emotions get in the way, so when others do it, it fe
^ Well said, it gives some great insight on the things we do.
Aquadeer, you missed my points completely. In your beginning post I got the sense that you didn't know why so many people "hate aquas" and that others constantly attempt to control you (and therefore other aquas, I guess). No? Yes? And it didn't seem like you were pointing out YOUR flaws, it seemed like you were pointing out everyone elses flaws. My response was not to point out all negative qualities of aquas, no. It was to shed some light on how people may not be trying to control you and that you may be controlling yourself. It was to provide some insight that you may find useful. And this is a perfect example right in this very interaction with you. You have placed your own thinking and your own perceptions into my message and totally misunderstood me and accused me of trying to control you..."you can't make (Control) us be versed in emotional Intelligence to feed your own ego". Let me be the one to tell you: I was NOT trying to control you or feed my ego, like I said, I was trying to give you some valuable advice. However, because you are being so subjective, you failed to see that and you have cooked up another FALSE story. And I have had relationships with aquas, intimate, familial and friendships. But the differences in the types of relationships do not change my overall observations about them/aquas.
Aquadeer, you missed my points completely. In your beginning post I got the sense that you didn't know why so many people "hate aquas" and that others constantly attempt to control you (and therefore other aquas, I guess). No? Yes? And it didn't seem like you were pointing out YOUR flaws, it seemed like you were pointing out everyone elses flaws. My response was not to point out all negative qualities of aquas, no. It was to shed some light on how people may not be trying to control you and that you may be controlling yourself. It was to provide some insight that you may find useful. And this is a perfect example right in this very interaction with you. You have placed your own thinking and your own perceptions into my message and totally misunderstood me and accused me of trying to control you..."you can't make (Control) us be versed in emotional Intelligence to feed your own ego". Let me be the one to tell you: I was NOT trying to control you or feed my ego, like I said, I was trying to give you some valuable advice. However, because you are being so subjective, you failed to see that and you have cooked up another FALSE story. And I have had relationships with aquas, intimate, familial and friendships. But the differences in the types of relationships do not change my overall observations about them/aquas.
Aquadeer, you missed my points completely. In your beginning post I got the sense that you didn't know why so many people "hate aquas" and that others constantly attempt to control you (and therefore other aquas, I guess). No? Yes? And it didn't seem like you were pointing out YOUR flaws, it seemed like you were pointing out everyone elses flaws. My response was not to point out all negative qualities of aquas, no. It was to shed some light on how people may not be trying to control you and that you may be controlling yourself. It was to provide some insight that you may find useful. And this is a perfect example right in this very interaction with you. You have placed your own thinking and your own perceptions into my message and totally misunderstood me and accused me of trying to control you..."you can't make (Control) us be versed in emotional Intelligence to feed your own ego". Let me be the one to tell you: I was NOT trying to control you or feed my ego, like I said, I was trying to give you some valuable advice. However, because you are being so subjective, you failed to see that and you have cooked up another FALSE story. And I have had relationships with aquas, intimate, familial and friendships. But the differences in the types of relationships do not change my overall observations about them/aquas.
Posted by iamwhatiam
Defense Mechanism=CONTROL
And aquas don't always just so easily ignore. Most of the time their..."pride" gets in the way and they bite...and their bite comes with rabies. And most of the time they bite because of some story they've cooked up in their heads, a story that is far from the truth. And at that point it isn't about defending yourself, it's just about being mean and trying to hurt the other person.
Button Pushing/Blowing Hot and Cold
Partially true, BUT! This also happens when they are trying to guess your next step before it happens and once again CONTROL the situation. This is their idea of figuring you out, of figuring your motives, ticks etc etc blah blah blah bullshit bullshit bullshit.
Maybe they were being...""
"We don't let emotions get in the way, so when others do it, it feels/looks like a cope out to us" Quite frankly, it may LOOK like that to you, but it may NOT BE THE TRUTH! What your perception is may not be reality!
1] Pride comes before a fall. Hurt an Aqua, do not expect kidgloves to be used on you cause it's "nice". Caps/Aquas don't want to destroy people with the reality of things. It's painful. They know it first hand cause Saturn rules them. I'm telling you Saturn-level mean would make you cry, breakdown and want to kill yourself with how cruel and cold it is. Both signs known this. If you aren't crying and assuming they are satan, they held back.
2] They control themselves. They choose to deal with you. They have no problems to leave you there if they see no logical reason to stay there. Over-thinking/Analyzing behavior isn't limited to them. Being straight forward and honest with no agenda is /rare/.
3] We know people live in bubbles. If we pop it, will they live or die? You want coddling from signs that don't even do that for themselves.
Posted by iamwhatiam
What your perception is may not be reality!
I agree with what you said here, about yourself. You obviously got burnt or hurt by an aqua, why not go and deal with that anger? Might help you understand others better.
~Toodles~
1} What I'm saying is this: Sometimes you don't really know that you've hurt an aqua because they are very ambiguous and closed and they would never come out and say it. Why would they need to say it? Because most of the time you never realized that you may have hurt them because they act so aloof and above everyone else that you didn't even realize they cared that much to be hurt or they told you that they didn't like you that way (a lie). So instead of handling the situation in a mature way and letting the other person know that they've hurt you, aqua does the immature thing and trys to jab back...not realizing that they are causing more unnecessary hurt (because the person never understood that aqua was hurt in the first place). You see what I'm trying to say here? Sometimes that..."pride"...leads to a lot of unnecessary drama and emotions. (And I know, aquas are very friendly people and can be taken for granted and hurt, I know this, but I'm not talking about these situations)
2)Yes, they control themselves. This is not being controlling. But they also control others and do it often. What about the situations when an aqua DOES want to deal with you and you don't want to deal with them? They will be controlling and manipulative and make sure that they are seen and heard. And CUTTING OFF/ESTABLISHING NO CONTACT/SILENT TREATMENT is a form of control and manipulation. Sometimes they do this to encourage you to chase them etc, not because they don't want to deal with you. This is control. There are differences to this, and it is hard to believe that you cannot understand that.
3)Who said I want "coddling"? Did I ever tell you how I personally prefer an aqua or anyone else to intimately relate to me? No I did not. The fact that you, in your own brain, believed that I wnted to be coddled says a lot. But yet, you missed my real points, which was about controlling others. Yet, another story cooked up in your head. You are putting words in my mouth, based upon your own thinking. I can't tell you how or why to love, what I'm telling you is others may love in a certain way and advising you not to confuse that will the person wanting to control you. You see?
2)Yes, they control themselves. This is not being controlling. But they also control others and do it often. What about the situations when an aqua DOES want to deal with you and you don't want to deal with them? They will be controlling and manipulative and make sure that they are seen and heard. And CUTTING OFF/ESTABLISHING NO CONTACT/SILENT TREATMENT is a form of control and manipulation. Sometimes they do this to encourage you to chase them etc, not because they don't want to deal with you. This is control. There are differences to this, and it is hard to believe that you cannot understand that.
3)Who said I want "coddling"? Did I ever tell you how I personally prefer an aqua or anyone else to intimately relate to me? No I did not. The fact that you, in your own brain, believed that I wnted to be coddled says a lot. But yet, you missed my real points, which was about controlling others. Yet, another story cooked up in your head. You are putting words in my mouth, based upon your own thinking. I can't tell you how or why to love, what I'm telling you is others may love in a certain way and advising you not to confuse that will the person wanting to control you. You see?
Posted by justagirlPosted by iamwhatiam
What your perception is may not be reality!
I agree with what you said here, about yourself. You obviously got burnt or hurt by an aqua, why not go and deal with that anger? Might help you understand others better.
~Toodles~click to expand
Must have made poor life choices.
Looked to Aquas for validation and coddling.
Got treated like an adult, not a child.
Que : OMG SO CONTROLLING CAUSE YOU DON'T CONFORM TO MY NEEDS/REALITY. CHANGE YOU CONTROLLING FUCKS.
Also sorry to any Aquas that got rubbed the wrong way with my posts.
Posted by justagirlPosted by iamwhatiam
What your perception is may not be reality!
I agree with what you said here, about yourself. You obviously got burnt or hurt by an aqua, why not go and deal with that anger? Might help you understand others better.
~Toodles~click to expand
OK. You aquas are not doing a very good job at representing aquas very well in the intelligence department. Where is krys1 (you know who I'm trying to note) or the other bright/noncombative aquas? You all sound very judgmental and closed minded. It's kind of fascinating, in a sense. Actually, I was hurt by an aqua in the past (my dad, an ex and a friend). But! I am def not angry or anything like that. And that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I'VE WRITTEN IN THIS THREAD. I am just trying to show you all another perspective, THAT IS ALL.
^^@ SirHorns, I liked your posts. You are a cusper?
Posted by justagirlPosted by iamwhatiam
What your perception is may not be reality!
I agree with what you said here, about yourself. You obviously got burnt or hurt by an aqua, why not go and deal with that anger? Might help you understand others better.
~Toodles~click to expand
:: boom ::
Posted by iamwhatiamPosted by justagirlPosted by iamwhatiam
What your perception is may not be reality!
I agree with what you said here, about yourself. You obviously got burnt or hurt by an aqua, why not go and deal with that anger? Might help you understand others better.
~Toodles~
OK. You aquas are not doing a very good job at representing aquas very well in the intelligence department. Where is krys1 (you know who I'm trying to note) or the other bright/noncombative aquas? You all sound very judgmental and closed minded. It's kind of fascinating, in a sense. Actually, I was hurt by an aqua in the past (my dad, an ex and a friend). But! I am def not angry or anything like that. And that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I'VE WRITTEN IN THIS THREAD. I am just trying to show you all another perspective, THAT IS ALL.click to expand
You are coming across very angry and judgmental. Just trying to point that out to you. Aquas that have contributed to this thread are aware of their flaws. Everything you have posted is YOUR perception, based upon things that have happened in your relations with an Aqua. Perceptions are a funny thing, they tend to be very one sided and skewed.
People can't be controlled by another, unless THEY allow it, plain and simple.
Posted by SirHornsPosted by justagirlPosted by iamwhatiam
What your perception is may not be reality!
I agree with what you said here, about yourself. You obviously got burnt or hurt by an aqua, why not go and deal with that anger? Might help you understand others better.
~Toodles~
Must have made poor life choices.
Looked to Aquas for validation and coddling.
Got treated like an adult, not a child.
Que : OMG SO CONTROLLING CAUSE YOU DON'T CONFORM TO MY NEEDS/REALITY. CHANGE YOU CONTROLLING FUCKS.
Also sorry to any Aquas that got rubbed the wrong way with my posts.click to expand
WOW. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY TO YOU ALL. You know nothing about me, yet you have created a full (FALSE) story about me. You sound more insecure than anything. Might as well give me a name and a dog. How about you add in a house too, filled with 14 abusive siblings? I'm no longer entertaining this. Go read a book and get some counseling. Maybe your family has fucked you up beyond repair, and that's not my fault. Ooh...do you feel those emotions now? Is this you, biting back? And you dumb fuck, you STILL have yet to understand my points...you are incapable of having an intelligent discourse. I don't mean to be so fucking rude, but you people are ignorant. The internet gods should take away your internet privileges. 🙂
Posted by iamwhatiam
Aquadeer, you missed my points completely. In your beginning post I got the sense that you didn't know why so many people "hate aquas" and that others constantly attempt to control you (and therefore other aquas, I guess). No? Yes? And it didn't seem like you were pointing out YOUR flaws, it seemed like you were pointing out everyone elses flaws. My response was not to point out all negative qualities of aquas, no. It was to shed some light on how people may not be trying to control you and that you may be controlling yourself. It was to provide some insight that you may find useful. And this is a perfect example right in this very interaction with you. You have placed your own thinking and your own perceptions into my message and totally misunderstood me and accused me of trying to control you..."you can't make (Control) us be versed in emotional Intelligence to feed your own ego". Let me be the one to tell you: I was NOT trying to control you or feed my ego, like I said, I was trying to give you some valuable advice. However, because you are being so subjective, you failed to see that and you have cooked up another FALSE story. And I have had relationships with aquas, intimate, familial and friendships. But the differences in the types of relationships do not change my overall observations about them/aquas.
Have I missed the points you are trying to convey? When I wrote the thread, everything I had stated was towards myself. I'm always open to valuable advice and insight on a situation, however everything you have had stated has been negative, hostile and down right degrading. Your assumptions are clueless and bias on a past relationship you had with an Aqua. There is no FALSE story, the truth is you got hurt, by an aqua and feel the need to spew hateful words to try to control other's perception of us. In reality you should really take a step back and try to figure out your own issues. BTW you are trying to control me and most likely every other aqua you have been in a relationship with. You can't make us feel a certain way to benefit your own needs. If we really care and really love, there would be no doubt in that persons mind.
See, that's why I don't even bother.
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Posted by DonAmanMaratPosted by GG
You all have a "god complex." You think you know everything once your ego's kick in. The truth is the only thing that's really special about you is that concentration comes easily for you guy's...That's it!
You don't deserve a statue made in your honor for it, you definitely don't deserve a street named after you for it either but some of you really walk like there should be a statue made in your honor.
I've come across the Aquarius manipulation a few times. It leaves a bad taste in your mouth. It doesn't feel good at all.
With that said, I like Aqua's. You are good people. You have your flaws like the rest of us. We all have flaws!
Flicks away the mere earthling, and builds my statue where it once stood!click to expand
Haha and why the fk not?
Posted by justagirl
^^@ SirHorns, I liked your posts. You are a cusper?
Nope. All Cap. With Heavy Saturn influence. Uranus is 4th though (3rd with asteroids) in power in my chart. Aqua is my 2nd strongest sign as well. Plus I talk with a few Aquas/raised by them.
Flattered by the question, thank you~ 😄
Posted by SirHornsPosted by justagirl
^^@ SirHorns, I liked your posts. You are a cusper?
Nope. All Cap. With Heavy Saturn influence. Uranus is 4th though (3rd with asteroids) in power in my chart. Aqua is my 2nd strongest sign as well. Plus I talk with a few Aquas/raised by them.
Flattered by the question, thank you~ 😄click to expand
Caps are adorable...
When they're not ___________________
Must have made poor life choices.
Looked to Aquas for validation and coddling.
Got treated like an adult, not a child.
Que : OMG SO CONTROLLING CAUSE YOU DON'T CONFORM TO MY NEEDS/REALITY. CHANGE YOU CONTROLLING FUCKS.
Also sorry to any Aquas that got rubbed the wrong way with my posts.
You did a great job, pointing out her flaws and that's the reason she became hostile. ^ She was trying to conform everyone into thinking she was right and freaked out when we pointed she wasn't.
Before you go and hide your original thread posted . Yes you had a falling out with an Aqua, that was obviously not into you. You placed expectations, he didn't reciprocate. Now, we are all controlling, manipulative people... not all aquas are the same btw. I really do hate blanket statements like that. Btw the only one that appears ignorant and unable to hold an intelligent discourse is the one tossing insults every other sentence. I really do hope you go and enjoy life, Aquas are obviously not the sign for you.
Posted by iamwhatiam
OK! Finally posting! OK so I took the tip to stimulate an aqua's brain to attain a deeper connection, but every time I attempt to bring a rather stimulating question or topic to the conversation, my aqua just looks at me with a timid/confused face. Why? He is not like this when he is conversing with his friends (regarding topics that are more simpler than the ones I bring up or just as challenging). And, I have always been challenging, this is not me doing a complete 180 and changing my behavior on him. Is is not comfortable with me? What's the deal?
Posted by SirHornsPosted by justagirl
^^@ SirHorns, I liked your posts. You are a cusper?
Nope. All Cap. With Heavy Saturn influence. Uranus is 4th though (3rd with asteroids) in power in my chart. Aqua is my 2nd strongest sign as well. Plus I talk with a few Aquas/raised by them.
Flattered by the question, thank you~ 😄click to expand
😄 You are welcome!
Posted by iamwhatiam
WOW. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY TO YOU ALL. You know nothing about me, yet you have created a full (FALSE) story about me. You sound more insecure than anything. Might as well give me a name and a dog. How about you add in a house too, filled with 14 abusive siblings? I'm no longer entertaining this. Go read a book and get some counseling. Maybe your family has fucked you up beyond repair, and that's not my fault. Ooh...do you feel those emotions now? Is this you, biting back? And you dumb fuck, you STILL have yet to understand my points...you are incapable of having an intelligent discourse. I don't mean to be so fucking rude, but you people are ignorant. The internet gods should take away your internet privileges. 🙂
Never said I did nor did anyone else. Insecure about what? Being goddamn glorious? Meh, too Leo-ish. My family didn't so no, I don't feel emotionally upset. Unlike you. Your points are tinted with emotion and are an aggressive/condemning rant to ALL Aquas over one that hurt you. You want validation and coddling. Go cry to the water boards, once you get it all out, then come back and talk to them like a rational adult. I have water planets and a moon in 1st house. I understand emotion, I'm just not a slave to it like you.
Would it be better if we held a pray circle for you while you calm down from your tantrum? Okay, all Aquas hold hands a pray to the water boards to heal her emotional traumas. Or that she just gets therapy or over herself. Your call guys.
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My grandmother (A Taurus) tells this story to everyone, When I was little girl, (that barely learned to walk) I was in the living room picking the leaf's off her plant. She notices what I'm doing from the kitchen and walks over, smacks my hand and scolds me, "Don't pick Grandma's leaf's off her plant". She said I didn't cry and looked shocked that she smacked my hand. She returned back to the kitchen and a few minutes later, I yell for her. She walks back to the living room and I have my hand on a leaf (getting ready to pull it off), smiling and I'm saying, "Look Grandma".
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