Desperate libra needs help on relationship with Aquarius woman

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Hi all, firstly I am very new to Astrology. Not long ago, I didnt even pay attention that I am Libra. I've been through hardship. I believed in myself only. I had unhappy first marriage so I've been literally dead in terms of feeling for so many years! Until about a year and a half year ago, I met my Aquarius. It is just like what have been described all over astrology sites, we were clicked immediately. Since then we enjoyed wonderful time together. Well, we live in 2 different countries so we are in a distant love. You know we are having great time whatsoever. We texted every 5 minutes, we call every possible time, she sent her selfies from everywhere, you name it. We have done things that we feel we live together.

But about few months ago, she started text less, stop sending selfies ... all the sweet stuff has been reduced gradually. Well so I started try to do my research about us and I found many sites about our signs. I must say i was shock to learn that many things are just like describing us. Then I started to learn that what Aquarius might like, dislike and what Libra might do to spoil our relationship. I did not know she is an Aquarius when we crushed into each other. I am sure she did not know I am a Libra either.

When I asked her why she always told me shes still the same person I love, she still love me deeply. Less text, less call, less sharing... I was so heart broken as I still love her so much. You can say I am weak but I am crying right now. Then we managed to have a date 2 weeks ago. From the time we met at airport through that weekend, we have had great love and connection. The way she looked into my eyes, the way she kissed me, the way we did everything together that weekend cant be anything else but huge love! 2-3 days after we parted, she still texted me telling me she loved my much and much. About a week ago, I could feel something wrong the way we talked over phone. But you know, we both too busy business people so I didnt think much.

Until this weekend! I am having a broken heart right now. Our last call Saturday morning was a disaster with hic cup conversations. And since then for almost 48 hours, she did not reply my text or call. I know she still can read my text.

I really want to fight for my love as i love her wholeheartedly. But then I am afraid that it will get worse as I need to give Aquarius space sometimes. I didn't get it you know! She was not like that in the beginning. She texted me all the time. She never asked for space for a year. And a week ago, it was still real and genuine love. I mean she cant change in that matter of days! If she stop loving me for whatever reason, I would respect that feeling and accept it in pain. But I am sure I feel her love there.

I am just so confused of what to do. This is the first time in my life I feel innocent love like this. For almost a year, I think of her continuously. I even want to spend the rest of my life with her but it seems not possible right now, so I did not tell her. Of course, I did hint it here and there. Is that a problem? I wish anyone in the forum may have similar experience can help me out with some sober advice? I am afraid I can not think clearly right now. Sorry I am so down to think clearly.

One last thing, she's married with one little kid but they are separated. She and the kids live with their parents now.

They are a traditional Asian family, she said, which considers divorced is a bad thing.

Do you think the issue lies there? Please all forum readers help me. I am so confused and clueless and heartbreaking right now. I cant focus on doing anything past today. I dont even have appetite for food. Whats wrong with me?

Thank you! God bless you
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Posted by iFemme
Well, for me, your issue is very clear. Let me ask you, did you ever talk to her about your future together? Do you have a PLAN? It seams to me that she doesn’t see the future with you and she is moving on. And by that I mean she doesn’t see the future because you didn’t yet told her anything about that. Or have you? (And if you two end up living together, then her divorce is not a problem, it will happen.)

Honestly, Mr. OldLibra, did you really think that you could continue with a relationship over phone, on and on, this is ridicules. We, Aquas doesn’t have time for such nonsense, we are realistic people and will listen reason over our heart. If you did not know we appreciate highly our time in this life. It is not endless and we rather not waste it.



So, I think, if you want to solve your problem, you have to come up with strong plan for your future and you have to “paint” this for her (and, hurry up!). In this way she dares continue with you.

But, if I am wrong, you'll at least gonna know why she withdraw from relationship.
Dear iFemme, you cheer me up a bit by posting your comments.

First, she wanted to maintain the status quo on the ground that she may upset her parents by having a divorce.

Second, I never talked directly to her about our future BECAUSE of the above, but very often, I painted it clearly and in a realistic manner, not just "let's run away".

She is separated but currently hiding it from her parents.

You are right about "over phone". I can't stand it any more but it seems like I was Aquarius and she was Libra in this aspect. I always want to meet. She always wants to just over phone. Yes, she is busy, work and home fronts (her son is only 7).

On many occasions, she said she wanted to marry me and so proud to have me as her kids' father! We even went to church sometimes and say "We do" in front of God.

You know, your sentence "We, Aquas ..., we are realistic people and ..." is almost exactly what she said on Friday, just 3 days ago right? But perhaps she meant the opposite that she can't divorce out of tradition and national culture (she's born and raised pure Asian). A week a go, she texted me and said that she loved me so much!

Do you think that something has happened at her home and she decided to be a traditional wife and living her fake family? Or is that just because she needs more time to think and listen to her heart more carefully before she makes a decision to have a future with me?

We never stop talking for more than 2 days like this, since May 2015. That's how I feel it is serious this time and I feel so down being in this situation.

If she is a real Aquas girl with all the traits described across the internet, she should tell me in the face what she wanted right, especially when she loves me that much. I dont get it you know? I never had such a strong love like this for anyone else. I am not seventeen, I am a mature guy with lots of ups and downs in my life. And we've been in love almost a year (next weekend will be our first Anniversary - so sad). I could have never imagined I could have such a passionate and genuine love for someone like her, and I do feel her love for me too, you know? Never knew she is Aquarius till some hiccup happened few months ago when I search for similar couples like us. Then this is the second time we had something wrong and it is so serious.

I wish she can just talk to me directly. I will feel much better and accept whatever she wanted. I am not sure if it is Libra characteristics, but I never expect to force a feeling of a human being.

I need help to find a way to talk to her. Otherwise, I will risk flying to her house on our Anniversary. Will it be a stupid idea as she never wants it.

Thank you iFemme.

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Dear iFemme again,

I'd like to discuss 1 point you raised. You said you Aquas girls appreciate your time in life. Here is love, not game Ms. iFemme! No matter what sign you are, you are a loving human. Is love that simple for you? You love a man, then feel bo future, then you stop loving that man, and in a couple of days, you forget him and move on? It sounds like mathematics, I am sorry.

We here discuss human's love and since I dont get it, I was asking for your experience.

Dear all Aquarius in here, is love just a game that way? No right? And it has nothing to do with Aquarius or Libra or any sign. We are human, even we are not all perfect.

I still believe in you. Wish she happened to visit this forum. Maybe she never arrives here. There must be a reason. I must find out a way to talk to her at her will.

Thank you.
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Posted by OldLibra
. Is love that simple for you? You love a man, then feel bo future, then you stop loving that man, and in a couple of days, you forget him and move on? It sounds like mathematics, I am sorry.

We here discuss human's love and since I dont get it, I was asking for your experience.

Dear all Aquarius in here, is love just a game that way?


On one hand it seems like Aqua women act like this all the time, as if they are just all about logic. On the other hand I think it's more of a female thing. Women have much more options than men. Wouldn't surprise me, if she talks to other men too. The way I see it, if there is another man catching her attenton, she can dump you easily and it won't even hurt her doing that. Just saying.
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Dear iFemme and all,

Much appreciated for your kind comments.

She finally picked up my phone last night and we talked for 5, 6 hours ...

She cried a lot and said she was so sorry to hurt me by doing that to me.

She was so deeply in love with me. Right after our date 2 weeks ago, she came home and missed me every night, deeper and deeper and then the reality of having her son and her parents made she feel guilty. So she said she had been like struggling between missing me badly and feeling guilty and stuck turned her into that mood. She did not pick up the phone because she was afraid that she could not said love words to me ... In sum, she was struggling in her heart. She said she wanted to run away with me the first minute, then the second minute she felt so sorry for her parents and the kid; she said she wanted to have a life with me but she could not find a way out of her current situation ...

I think iFemme is absolutely right about your Aquas trait. I think she was suffering from you loving me ... I was so released and happy but again I felt bad too as I made her life worse ...

Anyway we agreed that she would not do this again and she would talk to me if was that moody again ...

iFemme, I dont know what next ... at least I and she have some peace of mind for now.

If we could make up a life later, allow me to come back and proudly announce to you all.

Thank you very much DXPnet.
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iFemme,

We just talked again, and she shouted to me like a crazy girl and hang up again. Refused to answer the phone again.

I am completely down.

I dont get it.

Someone is right. It is perhaps personality of my Aquas. Nothing to do with her sign, to any other Aquas.

I'll get on an airplane soon. Maybe it is good if it crashed so I would not have to bang my head ...

I am clueless ... Hopeless ... Totally down ...
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Posted by iFemme
Hey OldLibra, why she shouted to you? What did she said? Could you tell me more about that, so I can figure out, what is going on with her.
She said she would hurt me again and again ...

For some reason, she fell onto a moody situation again.

I dont know what's happened to her at home. We just talked last night, everything is still on sweet mode.

And this morning, she kept silence. Then she said I did not deserve all these. She did not want to hurt me any more ...

She said she just wanted to be alone... refused to answer my phone calls.

She is so moody, frustrated, and moody and ... I cant find word to describe her mood ...

Shall I text her and request to meet, even for a final one? I feel she wanted out. But i must find out. I want peace of mind. I just love her too much ... that's why i feel so down
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Thank you iFemme. I'll do as you suggested. I am just worried she will be distracted from work and driving home later. Her city traffic is the worse in the world.

Thanks a lot again. Your comments are really saving me.

We have Love, Soul Connection, Trust, Respect, Caring, Understanding, Independence... BUT we can not make more happy times together.

Need your help pointing out what is wrong in our relationship——————??
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Posted by iFemme
Hey OldLibra, I know two issues with Aqua girl and Libra men. First is communication. Although they communicate usually well, they do not communicate well in the personal matters. And second thing is that Libras not very good in supporting an other people. Don’t panic, you can fix this all.

I did write before, how to talk to her (by the way, I misunderstood you, when you asked how to talk to her. You meant it literally). Anyway, successful communication is a delicate thing and I was death serious what I did say about that before, like 2 days ago.

Ok, lets talk about supporting. I believe, as I already said, that she is stuck and can’t move on because she does not see where or how to move on. For the life changing she need your support. Are you ready to take the realistics steps? Like, give her and her son a home (move together, be a father to her son) or stand in front of her parents together, announcing about you two? You know you need a realistic plan, what to do. I think that she will listen you eventually if you could show her that the change is good and no harm will happen.

And then there is left only her guilt. You can solve this all together with her parents. I know, this all is huge and you both have find some courage in your self. But, you two can do it if you really want it.

Dear iFemme,

Thank you for your comments. You are absolutely right about our situation. However, I feel obligatory to explain more regarding your point.

1/ She knows she only need to say yes, we go to church the fastest we can. She knows what I want and she knows I am willing to live with her.

So we talked recently she still said shes confused of what to do. She said just like you iFemme. She confirmed she loved me very much but I guess not much enough to leave past life and to overcome tradition. I'll let her think then. I have no other choice. But distance is negative to our love.

2/ I am not sure if I can understand what you mean by "support other"? I can do anything to keep our love. I am very sure about that. She does not love me that much yet so that she can have the gut out of tradition to live on with me. I dont have a plan yes, you are right. But i dont have detailed plan. Simply because I cant plan what I dont know yet. I can come to live in her country or vice versa. I'll need to be relocated or to find new job, find a house, find schools for my kids you know, all sorts of details. If we marry, we will do it eventually right?

3/ for communication, you may be right again. But do accept my apology because I've been not in a clear state of mind, so confused and desperate. Its not that I cant understand you. iFemme, is it you honey? Feel like you!
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When you read about Libra and Aquarius compatibility you are reading a very very general synopsis mainly as friends. But let's say you your Aquarius has Venus in Aries and Mars in Scorpio and your Venus is in Libra IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT WORK. There are many many many aspects to a chart. But as a Libra I have never gotten along romantically with the detached Aquarius who flees commitment. It was a disaster. But as far as friendship - best of friends.
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Posted by Shrewdsharp
When you read about Libra and Aquarius compatibility you are reading a very very general synopsis mainly as friends. But let's say you your Aquarius has Venus in Aries and Mars in Scorpio and your Venus is in Libra IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT WORK. There are many many many aspects to a chart. But as a Libra I have never gotten along romantically with the detached Aquarius who flees commitment. It was a disaster. But as far as friendship - best of friends.
Hi!

My problem is that I love her too deeply. When we are together, it is heavenly! Can you teach me more about the Venus and Aries ... you mentioned? I dont quite get it as I don't understand Astrology much yet.

Thank you very much.
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Posted by iFemme
Hey OldLibra, thank you for explaining, now I can understand you and your situation a little better. Unfortunately I have a bad feeling that she gave up on you. If nothing works, then nothing works. And if you did everything and her mind is still unchangeable, then there isn’t anything more to do. You can leave the “door open” for her (like when she is ready), but you need to live your life also.

No OldLibra, I’m not her 🙂
Hi iFemme, it became a little happiness for me to receive your comments. It really helps released a lot. Much appreciated.

You know, you spoke what I was afraid of thinking of! However, I still have faith in her love for me. It sounds very obvious on the phone and text past few days.

Well of course if it comes to a day when she writes me off, I'll have accept it and live on my life. But before that day, I want to fight for my love!!! Is that wrong? I felt like i lost her once in the previous life, I don't want to lose her 1 more time in this life. I'll not accept that before I try all I can. We have the most important factor: our genuine love.

That part of "live on" will be very tough for me then!

Thank you very much once again! And do have more comments when you have time.

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Posted by iFemme
Hey OldLibra, well now you both are where you started, nothing changed and she definitely in her "safe place", back to the phone-relationship. Believe me, this can go on and on in a long time until it's finally fade over years. I think, it must be you who decides, how to live and move on with your life. What satisfied you?
I'll seek a meeting, meeting - not date and we will talk everything over.

My biggest problem is I love her so much an at the same time, I feel she loves me so much too.

I want to fight to the end. If there is a bitter end, I'll accept it and move on. Well, you know, talking of "move on" sounds easily but I dont know how to move on ... Maybe it is my destiny that God wanted me to ... I'll call HIS name and move on with my love for HIM then. Do I have a choice?
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The meeting is next week. She kinda promised to talk things out but I feel I lost her. She decided her traditional family over her so-called love for me. Perhaps true love is only one way by myself. She may even lied to me. Just to share with you Libra and Aquarius out there. It is not important which sign you are, it is how you decide and find ways to nurture your love and your love one. Distance is a huge obstacle that will add in to any breakup. Married women with kids are not in to long term relationship as they have more than just you. You are just an outsider while the kids are their own. Very easy to kick you away once they are satisfied. One more thing, for women, regardless of their signs, do not give them full love. Always let them think that there is more to come. Otherwise, they will just walk away and probably looking for new full loves
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Hi iFemme, I wish I would have fallen in love with you instead! You are here for me anytime I am so down.

Yes, after the last time we stayed together, we both can find a mutual date. It involves international travel and year end workload keeps me very busy.

Very thankful for your wish but I lost 99.99% of my faith in my love one. She sounds very determined on the phone during past days. Yes we still talk regularly but I can sense you know. When you love someone more than anything else, you can sense anything !!!

Where are you? I'll probably fly to see you right after my miserable meeting next week then! (just to cheer myself up 🙂 )

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I sense a disappointment in your tone and I don’t blame you. Have you waited 2 months to meet her? Let us know later are you guys ok or what happen, and good luck!
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iFemme, I can sense, I said. Plus your and other comments here about Aquarius traits. She will be back to her safe life. I am tired of guessing you know? She often nowadays says why I dont see the signals from her? you know, when she text and call less ...

Yes thanks for your encouragement. Life is full of surprise. I just found out my true love a year and a half ago. We are going very well and happy together and there is a very big chance we can love together one day soon. Then we have a great time again together 2 months ago and now suddenly I am on the edge of losing my love! If you are experienced in healing broken hearts, teach me too iFemme
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iFemme, I dont know what to say now. We had best time ever last few days when we met. She gave me the best time of my life, she loved me and treated me as the best wife in the world can do ... so on and on ... She is completely another person whom I talked to over phone past months. She is my beloved wife ... She is so happy herself to be with me, as everyone could notice that ... I have no idea what next ... I am vaguely, still, afraid of the ignorance cycle happens again when we parted ... I'll be back. God bless us!
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Posted by iFemme
Wow, you surprised me. Yes, it is cold in here and snowing, so your guess was right (I'm wondering, how did you know...never mind).

And no need for thank me, I just glad I could help. 🙂
I really mean to have a chat with you over a coffee or a drink one day. Will have much insight from you. You know, I don't take love for granted. I guess I must work hard to nurture and build up a sustainable relationship. Have a good Friday the 13teen!
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Op, I am so sorry you are hurting; I know what it feels like to be a libra in love with an Aquarius. We search our entire lives for that 'soul mate' type of connection - we meet Aquarius and it just feels so right.

Each encounter is captivating and soul enriching. Then their obstinate, non-committal, detached way comes to the surface and we are left empty, heart-broken, alone, and without our mate.

It hurts, but when you start accepting the facts at face value, distance yourself from the situation eventually the pain will go away.
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Op, I am so sorry you are hurting; I know what it feels like to be a libra in love with an Aquarius. We search our entire lives for that 'soul mate' type of connection - we meet Aquarius and it just feels so right.

Each encounter is captivating and soul enriching. Then their obstinate, non-committal, detached way comes to the surface and we are left empty, heart-broken, alone, and without our mate.

It hurts, but when you start accepting the facts at face value, distance yourself from the situation eventually the pain will go away.

Thank you for sharing Bostongigi and EveryOunce. You are absolutely right about our situation. But you know, love is magic 🙂 We are back to loving mode just this week and agreed to move on a positive path of life together. We don't know how in detail yet but we have commitment toward each other, as of now. I hope we can be together forever. Willing to share to others.

Have a nice weekend!
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Ok, if you really mean that, then I’ll have a ‘coffee’ with you some day. I think so too, a relationships need work, but it's easier when the couple understand each other well.

Indeed, Friday 13, have a good one to you too!
I am still in floating and happy mode iFemme. How to find you for a coffee then?
We should move this discussion to the private messaging area, then I can tell you how to find me. Or do you have any other idea?
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How to private message? Sorry I have no clue.
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Long distance and Aquarius does not go together. Absence does not make the heart grow fonder it makes it wonder. And her being married already doesn't help.
this OP is fucking gross, already flirting with another female on here and going after a married woman.

obviously has no respect.

and the woman who is so going to have coffee with him while she gives him advice on another woman is disgusting behavior.
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Long distance and Aquarius does not go together. Absence does not make the heart grow fonder it makes it wonder. And her being married already doesn't help.
this OP is fucking gross, already flirting with another female on here and going after a married woman.

obviously has no respect.

and the woman who is so going to have coffee with him while she gives him advice on another woman is disgusting behavior.
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I forgive you for attacking us. You don't understand how a person in deep love feel right? And in a sense, it is digusting to jump on judgement of someone else you don't understand.
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Long distance and Aquarius does not go together. Absence does not make the heart grow fonder it makes it wonder. And her being married already doesn't help.
this OP is fucking gross, already flirting with another female on here and going after a married woman.

obviously has no respect.

and the woman who is so going to have coffee with him while she gives him advice on another woman is disgusting behavior.
I forgive you for attacking us. You don't understand how a person in deep love feel right? And in a sense, it is digusting to jump on judgement of someone else you don't understand.
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you need your ass kicked, from the WRESTLER!!!

cause yo dumb ass coming in here being all sweet sweet when in truth you whoring looking for kitty kats online, suggesting for some coffee time.

how about coffee in your booty hole??
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Dear strangers,

Let me be clear one last time. There is not any hint of flirtation in offering a coffee, in my education. In your education, you can't offer a coffee to someone who has really helped you? I would suggest you guys going back to school to learn some manner then.

If you are having issues or willing to share your experience related this forum, do come back! If not, please stop the act of uneducated manner, for Christ sake!

Period.
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Dear strangers,

Let me be clear one last time. There is not any hint of flirtation in offering a coffee, in my education. In your education, you can't offer a coffee to someone who has really helped you? I would suggest you guys going back to school to learn some manner then.

If you are having issues or willing to share your experience related this forum, do come back! If not, please stop the act of uneducated manner, for Christ sake!

Period.
You have an affair with a married woman and you want to speak to us about morals and proper behavior?

You only know what she tells you, besides some selfies, texts and thrills at the airport you have nothing but a fantasy relationship with an unavailable woman. It sounds like you may be one of a few.

I was married to an Aquarius woman for 10 years and the behavior of your Aquarius, is not the behavior of an Aquarius in love, it's the behavior of Aquarius playing the field.

It's been a year and half and you have nothing to show for it but selfies and stares at the airport. Thousands of nameless married men and women experience these online romances or long distance side flings everyday. It means nothing but a good distraction from their real lives with their spouses.

Just because an Aquarius meets a Libra and they are compatible, doesn't mean she is going to leave her country, or marriage. LOL Old Libra seriously....come on.
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Dear strangers,

Let me be clear one last time. There is not any hint of flirtation in offering a coffee, in my education. In your education, you can't offer a coffee to someone who has really helped you? I would suggest you guys going back to school to learn some manner then.

If you are having issues or willing to share your experience related this forum, do come back! If not, please stop the act of uneducated manner, for Christ sake!

Period.
You have an affair with a married woman and you want to speak to us about morals and proper behavior?

You only know what she tells you, besides some selfies, texts and thrills at the airport you have nothing but a fantasy relationship with an unavailable woman. It sounds like you may be one of a few.

I was married to an Aquarius woman for 10 years and the behavior of your Aquarius, is not the behavior of an Aquarius in love, it's the behavior of Aquarius playing the field.

It's been a year and half and you have nothing to show for it but selfies and stares at the airport. Thousands of nameless married men and women experience these online romances or long distance side flings everyday. It means nothing but a good distraction from their real lives with their spouses.

Just because an Aquarius meets a Libra and they are compatible, doesn't mean she is going to leave her country, or marriage. LOL Old Libra seriously....come on.

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I've never been attracted to air sun men even when I was single. they NEVER gravitate to me, and me to them. My sister is the only one who married a Libra sun and she's not Air sun.



so that is bullshit.

I didn't even pay attention to this topic, because he sounds whiny ass and pathetic asking about a woman who is NOT available. If it were a single woman, i would just leave it alone....cause well, some men NEED to go outside of their own relationship to get help from strangers......I figure this was a bullshit topic. and his personality is very ugly. who would want to be with this dumb ass??

and only femme aqua was the only one responding.



if a man has to come to a forum to ask for help about this shit, its gross.
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OldLibra... I can only speak from my experience with a libra man (21).. I'm an aquarius woman (27)( at the time).

Yes 21 seems like he is a child but he's very mature, he works hard for his goals, he works to support his mother in everything and he treats women with respect and I could say that he is a gentleman. He helped me raise my standards when it came to men, he helped me increase my self-esteem and realize how much I'm worth.

I was married too, at the time that I met him I was on a "break" with my husband, but I didn't have anything with Libra. My husband used to control me, hit me, and make me feel like shit all the time.

6 months later, I see Libra again and we reconnected, I wasn't ready to leave my husband and im not gonna say that I left him for Libra, but he definitely help me realize that I need someone who cares for me, loves me and supports me.not the other way around.

Libra had to move with his mom to another state, and I was sad, we already knew this but we were just enjoying our time together.

I still lived with husband but we were separated.

Libra would call me, text me, video chat me, every day, every morning afternoon. and night. He would give me all the attention I wanted, he would send me gifts unexpectedly, cards (who sends cards now days!) ? They made me smile every day.

our feelings got more intense, he came to visit me without telling his dad he was in town so he could spend all his time with me. he rented a hotel room and we stayed there for all 4 days.

I had already left husband. (different story)

Libra was there to support me all the time, to get a job, he was interested in meeting my kids but always respecting that I wasn't ready, he just wanted to get close to them as friends. He met them and it was like it was perfect between them

ALL THIS HAPPENED IN 4 MONTHS! CRAZY!

I do see that Libra/Aqua relationships are very intense..

I told him that we shouldn't keep building trust anymore bc I wasn't gonna move there, he wanted me to.. he said he would buy a house for him and his mom to show me he is responsible.

but I kept telling him it wasn't going to work bc our goals were different.

His mom loved me but she was always clear with him in regads to being with a woman with kids, again he was only 21, and I did know he had to experience more things before getting in a mature relationship.

1 week after, he met someone and cut me off completely... I WAS DEVASTATED.

I understand we weren't gonna go anywhere bc I told him but his love for me was gone in a week.. I didn't even have time to catch up on what was going on..

I cried day and night, I couldn't even stand seeing their pictures together and I felt like it was never real.

He ended relationship with the girls bc she was very jealous, (I wasn't)

He effectively bought the house for him and his mother.

He texted me to ask if I was still interested in him, as an aquarius, if we cut you off our life, WE CUT YOU OFF COMPLETELY AND NEVER GO BACK TO THE ONE WHO HURT US!!!!!!

I had no feelings for him whatsoever, they were blocked and I had already liked someone.

He came all the way here in October and I didn't try to see him, he wanted me to go, and be with him, he said he couldn't bear not seeing me while he's here, he still loves me etc.

NOPE.. I DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK!

Plus I wouldn't do that to the guy I just stared seeing for someone who didn't care about me.

Also.. we had a trip together and I ended up going alone bc he was with his "girlfriend ".

His comments back then: Things just happen, I like her, I want to be with her.

So I just told him, he's not mature as he thinks he is.

MY ADVICE:

If you really like her, move things around for her.

if she's married, make sure she's not leaving her husband FOR YOU.

I don't think she would do that anyway unless is a very unhealthy or toxic relationship. (like mine)

if it is, support her, show her she's worthy or a man that will truly care for her.

If she's getting out of that relationship, Don't be with her yet.. give her time to process things, to be on her own, we are independent, we like to fight for what we want and we don't like people who just think we need everything given on a silver plate.



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Posted by Aerazo
OldLibra... I can only speak from my experience with a libra man (21).. I'm an aquarius woman (27)( at the time).

Yes 21 seems like he is a child but he's very mature, he works hard for his goals, he works to support his mother in everything and he treats women with respect and I could say that he is a gentleman. He helped me raise my standards when it came to men, he helped me increase my self-esteem and realize how much I'm worth.

I was married too, at the time that I met him I was on a "break" with my husband, but I didn't have anything with Libra. My husband used to control me, hit me, and make me feel like shit all the time.

6 months later, I see Libra again and we reconnected, I wasn't ready to leave my husband and im not gonna say that I left him for Libra, but he definitely help me realize that I need someone who cares for me, loves me and supports me.not the other way around.

Libra had to move with his mom to another state, and I was sad, we already knew this but we were just enjoying our time together.

I still lived with husband but we were separated.

Libra would call me, text me, video chat me, every day, every morning afternoon. and night. He would give me all the attention I wanted, he would send me gifts unexpectedly, cards (who sends cards now days!) ? They made me smile every day.

our feelings got more intense, he came to visit me without telling his dad he was in town so he could spend all his time with me. he rented a hotel room and we stayed there for all 4 days.

I had already left husband. (different story)

Libra was there to support me all the time, to get a job, he was interested in meeting my kids but always respecting that I wasn't ready, he just wanted to get close to them as friends. He met them and it was like it was perfect between them

ALL THIS HAPPENED IN 4 MONTHS! CRAZY!

I do see that Libra/Aqua relationships are very intense..

I told him that we shouldn't keep building trust anymore bc I wasn't gonna move there, he wanted me to.. he said he would buy a house for him and his mom to show me he is responsible.

but I kept telling him it wasn't going to work bc our goals were different.

His mom loved me but she was always clear with him in regads to being with a woman with kids, again he was only 21, and I did know he had to experience more things before getting in a mature relationship.

1 week after, he met someone and cut me off completely... I WAS DEVASTATED.

I understand we weren't gonna go anywhere bc I told him but his love for me was gone in a week.. I didn't even have time to catch up on what was going on..

I cried day and night, I couldn't even stand seeing their pictures together and I felt like it was never real.

He ended relationship with the girls bc she was very jealous, (I wasn't)

He effectively bought the house for him and his mother.

He texted me to ask if I was still interested in him, as an aquarius, if we cut you off our life, WE CUT YOU OFF COMPLETELY AND NEVER GO BACK TO THE ONE WHO HURT US!!!!!!

I had no feelings for him whatsoever, they were blocked and I had already liked someone.

He came all the way here in October and I didn't try to see him, he wanted me to go, and be with him, he said he couldn't bear not seeing me while he's here, he still loves me etc.

NOPE.. I DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK!

Plus I wouldn't do that to the guy I just stared seeing for someone who didn't care about me.

Also.. we had a trip together and I ended up going alone bc he was with his "girlfriend ".

His comments back then: Things just happen, I like her, I want to be with her.

So I just told him, he's not mature as he thinks he is.

MY ADVICE:

If you really like her, move things around for her.

if she's married, make sure she's not leaving her husband FOR YOU.

I don't think she would do that anyway unless is a very unhealthy or toxic relationship. (like mine)

if it is, support her, show her she's worthy or a man that will truly care for her.

If she's getting out of that relationship, Don't be with her yet.. give her time to process things, to be on her own, we are independent, we like to fight for what we want and we don't like people who just think we need everything given on a silver plate.





A 30 -year-old divorced woman with children should jump at the chance of ANY man willing to accept that level of baggage. It appears that you brag about your resistance to possibly the only chance you may ever have as a divorced woman over 25 with children with getting a good man willing to provide for you and tolerate another man's cubs. VERY RARE! I hope you find it again, the odds are stacked in staggering odds against you however.

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Much appreciate!

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Posted by OldLibra


Dear strangers,

Let me be clear one last time. There is not any hint of flirtation in offering a coffee, in my education. In your education, you can't offer a coffee to someone who has really helped you? I would suggest you guys going back to school to learn some manner then.

If you are having issues or willing to share your experience related this forum, do come back! If not, please stop the act of uneducated manner, for Christ sake!

Period.
You have an affair with a married woman and you want to speak to us about morals and proper behavior?

You only know what she tells you, besides some selfies, texts and thrills at the airport you have nothing but a fantasy relationship with an unavailable woman. It sounds like you may be one of a few.

I was married to an Aquarius woman for 10 years and the behavior of your Aquarius, is not the behavior of an Aquarius in love, it's the behavior of Aquarius playing the field.

It's been a year and half and you have nothing to show for it but selfies and stares at the airport. Thousands of nameless married men and women experience these online romances or long distance side flings everyday. It means nothing but a good distraction from their real lives with their spouses.

Just because an Aquarius meets a Libra and they are compatible, doesn't mean she is going to leave her country, or marriage. LOL Old Libra seriously....come on.

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9 Years

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Dear Aerazo,

Aside from iFemme, you are the second person who do understand and share things with a true manner. And of course I am really thankful. You know, I kinda understand your story with the situation back then, when you were 27. I was not 21. I believe I am mature enough after a broken marriage, which is very different from your Libra. One different thing is since I met her, till today, I have not had eyes for any other person. I am quite confident. I think of my Aqua the first thing when I wake up and before bedtime, every day in the past almost 2 years now.

And your last para where your advice is has deep meaning for me, really. In the 4 "if" you gave me, I am not sure about the "if" number 2. And I dont know how to do it. For the rest, I think I can.

Again, thank you verymuch for your insights. It really helps.

Have a nice week ahead!

Posted by Aerazo
OldLibra... I can only speak from my experience with a libra man (21).. I'm an aquarius woman (27)( at the time).

Yes 21 seems like he is a child but he's very mature, he works hard for his goals, he works to support his mother in everything and he treats women with respect and I could say that he is a gentleman. He helped me raise my standards when it came to men, he helped me increase my self-esteem and realize how much I'm worth.

I was married too, at the time that I met him I was on a "break" with my husband, but I didn't have anything with Libra. My husband used to control me, hit me, and make me feel like shit all the time.

6 months later, I see Libra again and we reconnected, I wasn't ready to leave my husband and im not gonna say that I left him for Libra, but he definitely help me realize that I need someone who cares for me, loves me and supports me.not the other way around.

Libra had to move with his mom to another state, and I was sad, we already knew this but we were just enjoying our time together.

I still lived with husband but we were separated.

Libra would call me, text me, video chat me, every day, every morning afternoon. and night. He would give me all the attention I wanted, he would send me gifts unexpectedly, cards (who sends cards now days!) ? They made me smile every day.

our feelings got more intense, he came to visit me without telling his dad he was in town so he could spend all his time with me. he rented a hotel room and we stayed there for all 4 days.

I had already left husband. (different story)

Libra was there to support me all the time, to get a job, he was interested in meeting my kids but always respecting that I wasn't ready, he just wanted to get close to them as friends. He met them and it was like it was perfect between them

ALL THIS HAPPENED IN 4 MONTHS! CRAZY!

I do see that Libra/Aqua relationships are very intense..

I told him that we shouldn't keep building trust anymore bc I wasn't gonna move there, he wanted me to.. he said he would buy a house for him and his mom to show me he is responsible.

but I kept telling him it wasn't going to work bc our goals were different.

His mom loved me but she was always clear with him in regads to being with a woman with kids, again he was only 21, and I did know he had to experience more things before getting in a mature relationship.

1 week after, he met someone and cut me off completely... I WAS DEVASTATED.

I understand we weren't gonna go anywhere bc I told him but his love for me was gone in a week.. I didn't even have time to catch up on what was going on..

I cried day and night, I couldn't even stand seeing their pictures together and I felt like it was never real.

He ended relationship with the girls bc she was very jealous, (I wasn't)

He effectively bought the house for him and his mother.

He texted me to ask if I was still interested in him, as an aquarius, if we cut you off our life, WE CUT YOU OFF COMPLETELY AND NEVER GO BACK TO THE ONE WHO HURT US!!!!!!

I had no feelings for him whatsoever, they were blocked and I had already liked someone.

He came all the way here in October and I didn't try to see him, he wanted me to go, and be with him, he said he couldn't bear not seeing me while he's here, he still loves me etc.

NOPE.. I DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK!

Plus I wouldn't do that to the guy I just stared seeing for someone who didn't care about me.

Also.. we had a trip together and I ended up going alone bc he was with his "girlfriend ".

His comments back then: Things just happen, I like her, I want to be with her.

So I just told him, he's not mature as he thinks he is.

MY ADVICE:

If you really like her, move things around for her.

if she's married, make sure she's not leaving her husband FOR YOU.

I don't think she would do that anyway unless is a very unhealthy or toxic relationship. (like mine)

if it is, support her, show her she's worthy or a man that will truly care for her.

If she's getting out of that relationship, Don't be with her yet.. give her time to process things, to be on her own, we are independent, we like to fight for what we want and we don't like people who just think we need everything given on a silver plate.




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@Aerazo
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Posted by Aerazo
OldLibra... I can only speak from my experience with a libra man (21).. I'm an aquarius woman (27)( at the time).

Yes 21 seems like he is a child but he's very mature, he works hard for his goals, he works to support his mother in everything and he treats women with respect and I could say that he is a gentleman. He helped me raise my standards when it came to men, he helped me increase my self-esteem and realize how much I'm worth.

I was married too, at the time that I met him I was on a "break" with my husband, but I didn't have anything with Libra. My husband used to control me, hit me, and make me feel like shit all the time.

6 months later, I see Libra again and we reconnected, I wasn't ready to leave my husband and im not gonna say that I left him for Libra, but he definitely help me realize that I need someone who cares for me, loves me and supports me.not the other way around.

Libra had to move with his mom to another state, and I was sad, we already knew this but we were just enjoying our time together.

I still lived with husband but we were separated.

Libra would call me, text me, video chat me, every day, every morning afternoon. and night. He would give me all the attention I wanted, he would send me gifts unexpectedly, cards (who sends cards now days!) ? They made me smile every day.

our feelings got more intense, he came to visit me without telling his dad he was in town so he could spend all his time with me. he rented a hotel room and we stayed there for all 4 days.

I had already left husband. (different story)

Libra was there to support me all the time, to get a job, he was interested in meeting my kids but always respecting that I wasn't ready, he just wanted to get close to them as friends. He met them and it was like it was perfect between them

ALL THIS HAPPENED IN 4 MONTHS! CRAZY!

I do see that Libra/Aqua relationships are very intense..

I told him that we shouldn't keep building trust anymore bc I wasn't gonna move there, he wanted me to.. he said he would buy a house for him and his mom to show me he is responsible.

but I kept telling him it wasn't going to work bc our goals were different.

His mom loved me but she was always clear with him in regads to being with a woman with kids, again he was only 21, and I did know he had to experience more things before getting in a mature relationship.

1 week after, he met someone and cut me off completely... I WAS DEVASTATED.

I understand we weren't gonna go anywhere bc I told him but his love for me was gone in a week.. I didn't even have time to catch up on what was going on..

I cried day and night, I couldn't even stand seeing their pictures together and I felt like it was never real.

He ended relationship with the girls bc she was very jealous, (I wasn't)

He effectively bought the house for him and his mother.

He texted me to ask if I was still interested in him, as an aquarius, if we cut you off our life, WE CUT YOU OFF COMPLETELY AND NEVER GO BACK TO THE ONE WHO HURT US!!!!!!

I had no feelings for him whatsoever, they were blocked and I had already liked someone.

He came all the way here in October and I didn't try to see him, he wanted me to go, and be with him, he said he couldn't bear not seeing me while he's here, he still loves me etc.

NOPE.. I DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK!

Plus I wouldn't do that to the guy I just stared seeing for someone who didn't care about me.

Also.. we had a trip together and I ended up going alone bc he was with his "girlfriend ".

His comments back then: Things just happen, I like her, I want to be with her.

So I just told him, he's not mature as he thinks he is.

MY ADVICE:

If you really like her, move things around for her.

if she's married, make sure she's not leaving her husband FOR YOU.

I don't think she would do that anyway unless is a very unhealthy or toxic relationship. (like mine)

if it is, support her, show her she's worthy or a man that will truly care for her.

If she's getting out of that relationship, Don't be with her yet.. give her time to process things, to be on her own, we are independent, we like to fight for what we want and we don't like people who just think we need everything given on a silver plate.





A 30 -year-old divorced woman with children should jump at the chance of ANY man willing to accept that level of baggage. It appears that you brag about your resistance to possibly the only chance you may ever have as a divorced woman over 25 with children with getting a good man willing to provide for you and tolerate another man's cubs. VERY RARE! I hope you find it again, the odds are stacked in staggering odds against you however.

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@Bostongigi

Your comment literally made me Crack the fuck up ??

Just because I'm a mature woman with kids doesn't mean I should jump to any man who "wants to carry my BAGGAGE"

I'm an independent mother, I live with my daughters and I'm financially capable of providing for them and give them a good future. I got here on my own, I don't need a man to "carry my baggage"

Yes, there are 2 REAL MEN, who are willing to be with me.

#1 successful 35 year old man, who is a great father to his kids, I've known him for many years, says he is in love with me but he knows I don't. He was married when I met him so for me he was always unavailable. is hard to change that when I've known his family. Also my business partner so it could change things around too.

#2 29 yr old, also successful, I met 4 months ago but has showed me he cares about me, not to TAKE CARE OF ME, but to support each other along the way. We are slowly dating and getting to know each other better.

Yes, I have the right to choose and I also want to love someone who wants to be there for me and my daughters.

Also, my daughters dad is very responsible when it comes to them.

I don't have to settle down just bc someone wants to be there, plus he was very young and has a lot ahead of him to live and enjoy. His acting career requires sacrifice and I wouldn't let him stop that because of me.

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Posted by OldLibra
Dear Aerazo,

Aside from iFemme, you are the second person who do understand and share things with a true manner. And of course I am really thankful. You know, I kinda understand your story with the situation back then, when you were 27. I was not 21. I believe I am mature enough after a broken marriage, which is very different from your Libra. One different thing is since I met her, till today, I have not had eyes for any other person. I am quite confident. I think of my Aqua the first thing when I wake up and before bedtime, every day in the past almost 2 years now.

And your last para where your advice is has deep meaning for me, really. In the 4 "if" you gave me, I am not sure about the "if" number 2. And I dont know how to do it. For the rest, I think I can.

Again, thank you verymuch for your insights. It really helps.

Have a nice week ahead!

Posted by Aerazo
OldLibra... I can only speak from my experience with a libra man (21).. I'm an aquarius woman (27)( at the time).

Yes 21 seems like he is a child but he's very mature, he works hard for his goals, he works to support his mother in everything and he treats women with respect and I could say that he is a gentleman. He helped me raise my standards when it came to men, he helped me increase my self-esteem and realize how much I'm worth.

I was married too, at the time that I met him I was on a "break" with my husband, but I didn't have anything with Libra. My husband used to control me, hit me, and make me feel like shit all the time.

6 months later, I see Libra again and we reconnected, I wasn't ready to leave my husband and im not gonna say that I left him for Libra, but he definitely help me realize that I need someone who cares for me, loves me and supports me.not the other way around.

Libra had to move with his mom to another state, and I was sad, we already knew this but we were just enjoying our time together.

I still lived with husband but we were separated.

Libra would call me, text me, video chat me, every day, every morning afternoon. and night. He would give me all the attention I wanted, he would send me gifts unexpectedly, cards (who sends cards now days!) ? They made me smile every day.

our feelings got more intense, he came to visit me without telling his dad he was in town so he could spend all his time with me. he rented a hotel room and we stayed there for all 4 days.

I had already left husband. (different story)

Libra was there to support me all the time, to get a job, he was interested in meeting my kids but always respecting that I wasn't ready, he just wanted to get close to them as friends. He met them and it was like it was perfect between them

ALL THIS HAPPENED IN 4 MONTHS! CRAZY!

I do see that Libra/Aqua relationships are very intense..

I told him that we shouldn't keep building trust anymore bc I wasn't gonna move there, he wanted me to.. he said he would buy a house for him and his mom to show me he is responsible.

but I kept telling him it wasn't going to work bc our goals were different.

His mom loved me but she was always clear with him in regads to being with a woman with kids, again he was only 21, and I did know he had to experience more things before getting in a mature relationship.

1 week after, he met someone and cut me off completely... I WAS DEVASTATED.

I understand we weren't gonna go anywhere bc I told him but his love for me was gone in a week.. I didn't even have time to catch up on what was going on..

I cried day and night, I couldn't even stand seeing their pictures together and I felt like it was never real.

He ended relationship with the girls bc she was very jealous, (I wasn't)

He effectively bought the house for him and his mother.

He texted me to ask if I was still interested in him, as an aquarius, if we cut you off our life, WE CUT YOU OFF COMPLETELY AND NEVER GO BACK TO THE ONE WHO HURT US!!!!!!

I had no feelings for him whatsoever, they were blocked and I had already liked someone.

He came all the way here in October and I didn't try to see him, he wanted me to go, and be with him, he said he couldn't bear not seeing me while he's here, he still loves me etc.

NOPE.. I DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK!

Plus I wouldn't do that to the guy I just stared seeing for someone who didn't care about me.

Also.. we had a trip together and I ended up going alone bc he was with his "girlfriend ".

His comments back then: Things just happen, I like her, I want to be with her.

So I just told him, he's not mature as he thinks he is.

MY ADVICE:

If you really like her, move things around for her.

if she's married, make sure she's not leaving her husband FOR YOU.

I don't think she would do that anyway unless is a very unhealthy or toxic relationship. (like mine)

if it is, support her, show her she's worthy or a man that will truly care for her.

If she's getting out of that relationship, Don't be with her yet.. give her time to process things, to be on her own, we are independent, we like to fight for what we want and we don't like people who just think we need everything given on a silver plate.




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Yes I understand in your case you are more mature, and I think if my libra was older I would've been with him. is hard to let go people you care about.

This is probably hard to do but you should be more communicative with her when it comes to what are the next steps, and about her husband.

Sometimes my libra felt as the home wrecker and other things, but it wasn't like that. and I made sure that my ex also knew that I didn't leave him for someone else or to be with someone else. I just couldn't stay in that relationship.

Be open with her about what you want for the future. we need to know your plans.
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Posted by Seraphlight
You waited for months for this married woman ..no other women? Meeting another girl from online ..to talk about this married woman? Yeah right.
Yes, you right that I have no other woman since I met my Aqua. Never thought of any other woman the same way I spend my love is for my Aqua.

AND

No, I dont meet this - that woman online to talk about my Aqua. I am receiving sharing thoughts and experience from this Forum and for which I am much appreciated. I learnt a lot, not about Astrology but about being human, from you guys.

AND

She is actually a free woman. Her "marriage" is just a piece of paper that can be torn off by law at any date.

Thank you (sorry I must have missed your comment previously)