..actually "the proof" is the people. For the most part people (do) act like their core sun-signs, and do reflect the whole of their extended natal charts. An aries is an aries and i've known many, a pisces a pisces, an aquarius an aquarius and so on and so on. We're walking proof of astrology's existence everyday.
I'd say I'm about a '5.' There's a lot of it that I read about Aries males that seems to be so true about me. It's really mind blowing. But a lot of it is generalizing and can be true for anybody. When you get really deep into it, a lot of it is bullshit. But there are definitely parts that are true.
Victory, What do you mean by real— You mean its a natural phenomena?? Or a realistic perception which could possibly be fake?
To me Astrology is a natural phenomena. Its human interpretations are quite messed up and not accurate because the guys who tried to explain it often failed to explain the entire structure in an accurate way. Suppose if Newton said "all heavy objects will fall into earth" and found a theory for heavy objects instead of gravity, we would have been living inside that constrained set of law. Thats what is happening with astrology. >Secondly, they mixed up God factor with astrology without thinking the possibility that God factor might be a man made theory and probably will clash with the natural law. Like kinda saying Its Gods wish to make all heavy objects fall to earth because we are Gods children and he didnt wanted us to climb trees to pluck the fruits. Astrology got wrongly interpreted bcoz of this God factor. >Third reason why you dont understand it is because science has a very constrained set of rules. To qualify something as science, you have to produce evidence. Now if i experiment something and try to explain it to other scientists, they wont understand anything unless they are born libra and have seen the same things as I have seen. Unfortunately, this is where things go wrong. You have no way of recording human behavior and character traits and comparing it. Every time you try to study a person with his or her permission, their brain has already received the idea that it is going to be under observation and obviously it will fake its natural reaction to any given situation. Now if we avoid that part, still the people who volunteer for such experiments fall under certain specific zodiac signs. Not everyone likes to volunteer. So obviously we see only a limited set of results in any of those studies.
Well victory, there are some things are can not be scientificly proven and yet exist. Do you believe in fate , Victory? Fate cannot be scientifically proven, yet does it mean that it does not exist? What about hope then? There is no way to prove that tommorow will actually be better, yetpeople still irrationally believe in it.
We all require something to put our faith in, something beyond the scope of science. Some found it in religion, others found it in astrology. Imagine a universe where everything is scientificly proven and there is nowhere for us to put our belief, life would be really bleak, a life that has no room for faith in something and no room for hope.
~mystic_fish "oh yeah, the scale..lol on a scale of 1 to 10, i would say a '10' with confidence."
well they say pisces intuitive is rarely wrong 😉
last days i was watching a reality television show , i just watched it for the purpose of astrology , and give it a last test
i was focusing on two girls , the first one was social fast moving have a slim nice body charming and she may like someone today and like another the other day kinda moody and talk allot
i said she should be GEMINI
the other one was having a round face with kinda fat body she is social very moody she cry for no reason sometime but still sweet
i said she should be CANCER
guess what they was all right after i cheeked there profile
but also in the other hand i know a aries girl who is not brave or direct
also i know a virgo girl who is not over critical or any of the virgo negative traits
"but also in the other hand i know a aries girl who is not brave or direct, also i know a virgo girl who is not over critical or any of the virgo negative traits"
interesting what you said, Victory ... i have guessed right more times than naught, or at the very least got the element correct. (perhaps Aries or Virgo had more of a subtle lunar influence or some other contradictory aspects/planets in their chart. If you looked at their charts as a whole, i'm sure it would make much more sense.)
"some times astrology dont work"
That's because, we are not just governed by our sun-sign alone, Victory. Some people may be a double or triple of their sign, and thus much more typical and easier to guess. I am a Pisces sun, but have major influences of Aquarius in my chart. Astrology can be very complex and the deeper you go, the more interesting and rewarding.
Yeah, let's score 1 for piscean intuition! Thx for the interesting topic, Vic. 🙂
Religion and science cannot be compared since religion only requires one to 'have faith and believe.' Science has very different requirements.
Your initial post made more scientific sense, Victory, than your last. Your examples were superficial as far as astrology goes. There is much more to someone astrologically than their sun signs. Their physical description can be attributed to their rising sign which can be extremely different from their sun signs. I am an Aries and if you met me socially, I wouldn't be 'typical.' I can be very shy and moody. I abhor people who are pushy and aggressive.
That aside, I don't believe in astrology as a science per se. I do find it interesting and enjoy the exploration.
(( i know a aries girl who is not brave or direct ))
Probably she had a bossy sister or mother who always kept her under control thinking she is way naive. I know one such case. She has to ask permission from her elder gemini sister to do anything and she is still an attention seeking 24 yr old kid who cry in public if you ignore her for 10 mts.
Every time I tell my Aries friends how good they are as long as they listen to themselves and stop doubting their own capabilities, I have seen them becoming so happy in no time. I guess there is an element of self doubt which troubles Aries.
(( That aside, I don't believe in astrology as a science per se. I do find it interesting and enjoy the exploration. ))
Science is not a belief system. Thats why its called science. Since you can experiment with astrology and get same results 8/10 times, what stops you from considering that as science? Lazy to experiment? Lazy for critical thinking? Or waiting for some scientists to do that job so you can start believing?? When you see some ice floating around the ocean, it can be easily deducted that there is more under the water and you are not hallucinating. All you have to do is to go further and confirm your doubts than living in the comfort zone of doubts.
i think astrology is a mix, really. We can say it's scientific, because it's based on real planets in the real universe, reacting/transisting/aspecting to one another; ultimately influencing us. But there is also an artsy, intuitive, somewhat spiritual aspect as well that delves into the humanistic study of character and human nature. A stairway leading to truer self-understanding and within limits direct your own destiny.
(( round face emotional not very tall she was fat ))
anyone who looks like the character in the movie "Misery"... its same in every other ethnic group i have seen. One type of cancer born females looks same.
If it is a sign I know, I am pretty actuate at guessing people's sign. I can often shock people by guessing after knowing them for five minutes. If I get the sign wrong, I usually get the element.
I once dated a 7 planet Sag. He actually LOOKED like a centaur.
* Its human interpretations are quite messed up and not accurate because the guys who tried to explain it often failed to explain the entire structure in an accurate way.
This is what I believe and why I only give it about a 7-8. I don't think we have completely figured it out but I believe there is definitely something to it.
I find as I study people and astrology more, I find a lot of misconceptions. I believe these are misinterpretations that have been handed down.
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on a scale of 0 to 10 , do u think astrology is real ?
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for me
lately i read allot about astrology and it has ZERO relation with science
its all superstitious , or in other word mystical
no one can prove its real or not ,
that far stars million light years away from us (*the stars make the astrology signs ) cant effect us scientifically
yes the changes of seasons may effect us but not far stars million light years away from us
science don't accept this
and i don't like to believe in something not scientifically or very mystical
so I'll give it 0
* excuse my english if there is wrongs because english is foreign language for me
thank you
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