Back Biters & Back Stabbers

Which zodiac sign do Back Biting & Back Stabbing the most?

i dont think i am a backstabber, but because i am continually being influenced by my enviornment, my thoughts change.

what i mean is, saggis are constantly educating themselves. reading, traveling, talking to different people, our opinions change. the more often a sag is learning the lesser chance of them feeling the same way about someting.

we can only go off on the current information given.

on the other side, maybe because we laughed at the hijink first, people assumed we felt one way about it. only to later on actually give our opinion. it looks like flip flopping.

ive never stabbed any friend in the back. in the front, sure.

whast sign is most likely to sleep their way to the top?

Young Gemini and Libra women.

LOL @ this thread

Posted by Sutekh
the LEAST involved in workplace politics ive seen is Aries and Sagittarius. We don't really look at the workplace as a battleground with a bunch of enemies who we have to conquer IMO

from experience, the Sags and Aries people could probably care less if the place they worked burned to the ground.

i read that sags are the least likely to become millionaries/billionaries also..and since it probably does take some form of back stabbing to get to the top, it maybe some truth to what you said..

they say bill gates did some snake shit early in his career to get to the top..and we all know what sign he is

Posted by Sutekh
the LEAST involved in workplace politics ive seen is Aries and Sagittarius. We don't really look at the workplace as a battleground with a bunch of enemies who we have to conquer IMO

from experience, the Sags and Aries people could probably care less if the place they worked burned to the
ground.

Yup

but ive witnessed a cancer and a scorp who as soon as people walk away they start talking. I was literally a mute in that office until like a month before I got out of there. The Cancer lady was hell bent on getting me in trouble because I didnt invovle myself in there bs so I found another better job asap. My job now is much better now not that much gossip I think I really dont know because Im not involved in it

Posted by ellessque


...and who describes it as "snake shit"? Those not savvy enough to pull it off or those who don't have the balls to make things happen in their life?

I imagine Steve Jobs (Pisces) did the same.

The career world isn't middle school where all is fair.

or those that just call it like they see it.

and like i said earlier, im sure most of these millionaries/billionaries have all done something snake like to get what they've got..

i know its a cold world and some people will do whatever they feel they need to do to reach their goals...but i also know its people out here that have succeeded in life without back stabbing..

Posted by ellessque
back stabbing is subjective.

there is no way around THAT.

what about people who actually invented something and became successful? if there's no solid proof that they stole the idea then that wouldn't involve any backstabbing

and steve jobs piscean imagination is what made him successful, that aries moon just put a lil fire under his butt to help put his plans in motion

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Posted by everevolvingepithet
Any that likes glad handing, social climbing and ass crawling, no sign specifics.🙂

So scorpio and capricorn

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Scorp here. Not applicable.

Ive watched scorpios throw people under the bus and shit on people over and over to get a better position . Once may be a coincidence but 5-6 times its not.

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Posted by ellessque
there are thousands of people who invent things every day, some probably more powerful and innovative than what we have today (probably more pisces and pisces mooners than we'd like to give credit to) but too many people don't pay attention to the trees falling in the forest because they didn't hear it happen.

in other words, if you don't make people pay attention to what you have to offer and use it to your advantage, figuratively scream from the rooftops as loud as possible and rub shoulders with those that have the dollars............your dreams will NOT come to fuition. period. not these days.

i agree with this..UNLESS what you're really trying to say is that if a person invents something, but his or her plans isn't going in the direction it needs to go, then its fair if someone comes along and takes their idea and claim it as their own?

Posted by Rockthenerds
@ Damen There was a decent documentary on the two that goes into a bit of details as far as the back stabbing between the two goes and both of them admitted that it got ugly. Like elle says business is business. When you get to a certain point I don't care how self moral and self righteous you may claim to be, some things will eventually compromise that when deciding what's best for the business/company.

and thats what you call greed..

and more then likely, if you got to keep back stabbing to remain where ever you are in life, then eventually you will become a victim of your own policy

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@ Damen There was a decent documentary on the two that goes into a bit of details as far as the back stabbing between the two goes and both of them admitted that it got ugly. Like elle says business is business. When you get to a certain point I don't care how self moral and self righteous you may claim to be, some things will eventually compromise that when deciding what's best for the business/company.
First it's called business dude, study it. Own one, then tell me about greed. Obviously you don't wtf you are talking about, you quote in bold, yet where in that quote did I say anything about backstabbing someone is a good policy.... Fail, try again.

1st off im sticking to the topic..and we were talking about back stabbing..so all this "buisness is buisness" and "compromise" talk sound like a bunch of bs a back stabber/snake would say..i bet bernie madoff said the same shit to himself when he was raping those people of all there life savings..like,who actually compromises on their morals for business?? a GREEDY person,thats who..and i never said it was a "good" policy either,nerd.

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@ Damen There was a decent documentary on the two that goes into a bit of details as far as the back stabbing between the two goes and both of them admitted that it got ugly. Like elle says business is business. When you get to a certain point I don't care how self moral and self righteous you may claim to be, some things will eventually compromise that when deciding what's best for the business/company.
First it's called business dude, study it. Own one, then tell me about greed. Obviously you don't wtf you are talking about, you quote in bold, yet where in that quote did I say anything about backstabbing someone is a good policy.... Fail, try again.

1st off im sticking to the topic..and we were talking about back stabbing..so all this "buisness is buisness" and "compromise" talk sound like a bunch of bs a back stabber/snake would say..i bet bernie madoff said the same shit to himself when he was raping those people of all there life savings..like,who actually compromises on their morals for business?? a GREEDY person,thats who..and i never said it was a "good" policy either,nerd.

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LOL and +1

The cardinal signs.

Hey 🙂 I'm good.

Posted by MzSag
As far as compromising on morals (I can't find the original post to quote it),

I think everyone compromises on their morals at some point in time... It is what it is. I don't have a family or kids, but I can definitely say that when you have other people relying on you, sometimes you have to push things aside.

*Shrugs*

It's a dog eat rabbit world.

True story. My aunt left my uncle because he was too honorable to stab anyone's back and help the family.

*Shrugs*

"As far as sleeping their way to the top, Capricorns take the cake."

How many Caps have you known to do this?

I'm a Cap with a Libra Mars, and if I was to EVER sleep my way to the top, it would be all the way to the top of me not having to work anymore. Wth I'd look like sleeping with someone for a position lol? I'm not about to do a job(have sex) for another job. That doesn't make sense in my mind. I personally don't want to work.

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Posted by DAMEN VI
..like,who actually compromises on their morals for business??

the real question is. who doesn't?
it's likely you can't give me the name of one organization, business, hospital, university, charity, not for profit, politician, lobbyist....the list is endless.
even the grocer on the corner.
the guy that owns the flower shop.
tell me they don't.
it could be from something so small as sliding a few dollars under the register and not paying taxes on them or something much larger like money laundering or selling of counterfit goods.
it's all the same at the end of the day.
what are YOU willing to do for the klondike bar if you want it bad enough OR if you need to feed your kids.
there is NO business in our country (the US) that has NOT broken a rule or two and stepped on SOMEBODY to survive.

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the only being i've heard of that never sinned was jesus, so i know every human has done something "wrong" at some point..that isn't the point at all and you know it.

and some random, minimum wage working guy "not paying taxes" isn't equal to what bernie madoff did..so its NOT all the same.

and most likely, if you're already running a business, and decide to step on or snake somebody, im pretty sure you wasn't thinking about your kids..now if you're stealing meat out of a grocery store to feed your family, then thats a different story..so please stop using the kids as an excuse to be a snake..its rather disgusting

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Dude how dense are you? Did you not already hear me clearly explain my stand on every term used here. Backstabbing was only one of 4, all being discussed by different people simultaneously. The last issue referred to simply coercing or sleeping one's way to success. not backstabbing. Again, fail.

If you think you can coast around through life, let alone a business, thinking you can please everyone and every little detail is going to work out just as you planned and you'll never experience any unexpected curve balls or some tough desicions then you are sadly mistaken or very naive.
Life isn't about haveing everything you want the way you want it. That fact that you're still trying to point the finger and can't recognize the difference between business relationships from personal sounds to me as if you have never stepped into the real world. When you do, don't be surprised when no one takes you seriously walking into an executive meeting with that sophomoric and unfortunate footwear that you seem to hold in such high moral regard.

apparently the backstabber/snake is the one that wants everything his/her way..not me

and i clearly understand the difference between business and making it personal..the snake doesn't..onlything the snake sees is BUSINESS..its like the scene in new jack city when nino told ice-t about the time he killed a old lady to part of the local gang...he said it was business, never personal...but what he didn't know was that the old lady he killed happened to be ice-t's mother..

so if you think going around killing old ladies is just business, then you are indeed a snake..and don't be surprised when some old man catch you when you least suspect and put a bullet thru your chest

^ really my whole point is that its people out here doing good business without all the cutthroat/back stabbing/stepping on the next guy to reach the top type of actions..like for example: the Burns & McDonnell Engineering firm..it's a 100% employee owned company,has over 3,000 employee's,and its been this way for 25 years

THATS the type of business i can respect..now you can go searching for some negative stuff to say about it, but at the end of the day..everybody is a boss(or at least feel like a boss, which i think helps boost the morale within a company)..now just imagine if every business acted in this fashion..we would definetly cut down on all the greed thats currently running this country into the ground..

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Posted by ellessque


...and who describes it as "snake shit"? Those not savvy enough to pull it off or those who don't have the balls to make things happen in their life?

I imagine Steve Jobs (Pisces) did the same.

The career world isn't middle school where all is fair.

or those that just call it like they see it.

and like i said earlier, im sure most of these millionaries/billionaries have all done something snake like to get what they've got..

i know its a cold world and some people will do whatever they feel they need to do to reach their goals...but i also know its people out here that have succeeded in life without back stabbing..

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I think people have to learn the ropes in business and decide how they personally want to proceed... If you have it in your mind that a little underhandedness is ok.. you're going to allow yourself to shit kick people to achieve your goals.

I'm self employed 3 times over and have worked for some real shady, back-stabbing individuals. My stress level was through the roof and I learned I DID NOT want to operate that way..

I'm moderately successful, which is good enough for me and have no desire to rise higher... because I would probably have to loose moral standing to get there... or work with a bunch of snakes.. no thanks!

Aries Moon/Aries Mars 🙂

Whats funny is that all the signs who were listed as the worst perpetrators seem to be rationalising backstabbing the most. Very tell tale.

The worst backstabber I know is a Pisces.
The worst backbiter is a Virgo.

Libra's and Scorpio are the backstabbers in my book. Both men and women

Do being too critical and extremely detail oriented make Virgos a back biter, as they observe people's in detail and then criticize about them?

Posted by Ellybean
Shell makes a good point. And the couple people that said Cardinals. I guess scorps too I could see that, but I've never worked with any other scorps cept one, and he doesn't want to work there long term so there's no place to see any viscous side to him really. Cardinals seem to get super into their jobs. Cancer lady at work I know, everyone calls her dragon lady. She fires people to make herself look better.

Truthfully though, you can't make millions and billions each year without infringing on certain morals. You can certainly be successful and still become a millionaire, though probably not as fast nor amass as much wealth otherwise. Not advocating it. I certainly wouldn't do it. Stick me in a research lab instead of some corporate profit driven mess. But I see people get stepped on all the time at work, and taken advantage of, especially those who can't afford to leave the job to find other work cause it's currently their only option. I think our CEO(of the whole conglomerate, we're a fortune 500) is a pisces? But I'm not sure.

As for sleeping the way to the top, never known anyone to do that. With the exception of a Pisces who slept with a former boss, but eh it was a hazy situation. And she didn't get a job out of it, but she did get to move in with him when he landed the big bucks and she doesn't work anymore.

But if we're talking personally, rather than professionally, I'd say no one sign to me really seems to embody the trait specifically. You could find any trait to justify in my own opinion.

Aries: Self centered backstabbers
Taurus: Arrogant backstabbers
Gemini: Two faced backstabbers
Cancer: Emotionally unhinged backstabbers
Leo: Attention whore backstabbers
Virgo: Overly critical backstabbers
Libra: Vain/blameshifter backstabbers
Scorpio: Manipulative/self-absorbed backstabbers
Sagittarius: Fairweather/flipflop backstabbers
Capricorn: Status backstabbers
Aquarius: Ego-maniacal backstabbers
Pisces: Martyr backstabbers

In that way every sign has ample trait motive for betraying someone I think,

All back stabbers are self-centered.

Don't no all signs but taurus when they want to fit in. It do depends on where they act in there life
I'm a cancer but I have to say my own sign ,I seen these people change up when they don't want to argue or fight against things that important
Sag yes yes yes talk about u one min and next they ride wit u
Gemini some dnt have they own mine
Libra like peace but they are troble makers too and will follow crawls

All signs have a part to play, they all manifest their darker sides through back stabbing and biting, more or less.
With Aries it's because they need to need to need to need to win at all costs, need to be the first thus will find creative ways to ensure of it.
Taurus is a fixed sign that likes rules to be followed; they'll feel entitled to start it at payback for someone who's in the way of the desired object
Gemini ............ masters of these techniques. Nothing to add really
Cancer - the self absorbed ones. Don't know much about them, they probably think this is the right justified way to do it for their family survival and prosperity.
Leo - out of envy. Generated by laziness. Phlease do astrology a favor and understand that the Leo seeking attention is way overrated and extremely misunderstood. Leo will backstab if the other party has something they could not have or achieve.
Virgo -professional critics, ranters, complaining, analytical stabbers to put it nicely
Libra - never ever trust any Libra with any secret whatsoever. Libras like to lit up the fire and provoke some gossip to "balance" thr world (a static world is a dead one so they just "give it a push")
Scorpios - pretty dangerous to me because as opposed to leo or others they will actually premeditate, calculate and execute the revenge for real or, often times, imaginary reasons. Oh and they do it to get to the top, most definitely. A scorpio will not date you or frequent you if you don't have something stronger he or she doesn't have and wants
Sagis - attention seekers par excellence,always plagued by envy. No matter if they have that entire box of cbocolates, they only see the candy in the other kids hand ... Don't even realize it since they think they deserved what they have anyways.
Capricorn - social climbers, they'll stab at work for sure. They'll bite ppl who don't share the same values
Aqua - don't know them really, but I noticed they're pretty good at stabbing behing the faking of proper interactions
Pisces - the repressed fury of the victimised individual ... Problem is, with most Pisces, althougg they're really really efficient and harmful, more than their subjects can guess, their reasons are often pure imagination, what they think their victim said or represented, not what actually happened. Neptune's fog ...

And this is my Venus in Virgo's way: showing affection through cold analysis. Venus in Virgo think pointing to one's faults helps fix the world.lol

hahah about Saggis. I have been known to eat off other people's plates. whats mine is yours, yours is mine. i see it as a compliment if i eat your food.

Actually I'm not easy on Leos, I'm usually not easy on myself. Leo can become bitter later on in life, due to lack of achievements generated by a certain laziness, and this is serious. A good Leo needs to keep working, and working at himself/herself ... I really admire Obama for that matter.

I do dislike the Sagi dark side but that doesn't get in the way of having a Sagi bff 🙂) since I appreciate the positive, it's just gotta be the right kind of Sagi: an older wiser one.
About Scorps: for a very long time Pluto and Scorps were my favourite ever sign, I guess that's where the disappointment comes from. Scorps do have extraordinary traits of course

Oh every scorp adores their sagi woman, apple of his eyes 🙂
The grim severe Hades on his underworld throne would do anything for the lighthearted soul who will bring optimism in his life 🙂

LOL

I WAS NOT GOING 2 POST....BUT I HAVE TO....



AT MY JOB THERE ARE 2 PPL THAT ARE ENGAGING IN WORKPLACE BACKSTABBING

THE CAP BOSS & AND A SCORPIO WORKER (BOTH FEMALES)


I'VE WATCH THESE 2 PPL START *ISH AT WORK ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS FOR THE LAST 2+ YEARS.


THE CAP FEMALE IS THE BIGGEST WORKPLACE BULLY I KNOW....SHE LIKES TO CONTROL (SCORP TOO)
AND IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH WHAT SHE SAYS AT WORK....SHE WILL DO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING TO MAKE YOUR TIME @ WORK MISERABLE

THE CAP FEMALE ENERGY IS AWFUL ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY WANT 2 CONTROL AND CANT...LOL

AND SCORPIOS ARE JUST MISERABLE ALL OF THE TIME ....EVEN WHEN YOU GIVE THEM CONTROL...LOL AND CAN BE SO JEALOUS TOWARDS PPL.....AND WILL TALK SHYT ABOUT PPL THEY ARE COOL WITH!!!!!!!!

Posted by Reconstructing_a_Leo
Oh every scorp adores their sagi woman, apple of his eyes 🙂
The grim severe Hades on his underworld throne would do anything for the lighthearted soul who will bring optimism in his life 🙂

sigh...

sounds like youre a bit bitter. i would say i'm sorry if it's hurtful but my reaction is just that...a reaction.

i thought this was gonna be a fetish thread...

In my recent experience, I would say Scorpio then Leo.
Scorpio's say they are your friend, but ingnore or avoid them, they will stab you in the back to save their own skin. No remorse, no emotion, just pure payback time.

I don't think one sign or signs are more prone to back stabbing/biting than all th others. It boils down to morals/values or lack thereof.

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Posted by Reconstructing_a_Leo
Oh every scorp adores their sagi woman, apple of his eyes 🙂
The grim severe Hades on his underworld throne would do anything for the lighthearted soul who will bring optimism in his life 🙂

sigh...
sounds like youre a bit bitter. i would say i'm sorry if it's hurtful but my reaction is just that...a reaction.

Yea cause people smile twice and use words like optimism when they're bitter?...SHe know's exactly what she's talking about...wtf are you talking about....

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oh I dunno 😢 I just got a feeling of great sadness there for some odd reason. And a touch of bitterness, because it tied with "desire" ...i could be completely wrong and that's allright.

oh no that's cool. thanks for explaining. I understand how it is. 🙂

Posted by Reconstructing_a_Leo
Oh every scorp adores their sagi woman, apple of his eyes 🙂
The grim severe Hades on his underworld throne would do anything for the lighthearted soul who will bring optimism in his life 🙂

this is so candy cane sweet 🙂

"tsk tsk tsk" ?

Lol

Aquarians dont backstab and if they did it would be for the benefit of mankind.....

Scorpio especially anybody with a mars in it. Some of the most two faced ppl I've ever met were scorpios or had something in Scorpio

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Posted by aishid
Which zodiac sign do Back Biting & Back Stabbing the most?

SCORPIO'S

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Fuckin right I've seen it too many times. Secretive, self absorbed and manipulative. I've got and seen too many examples of it. They only care about their wrongs when their shortcomings hit them or "karma"bites them in the ass.


Give them any power and puss them off, they misuse it and go at your job to get u fired. Smh sometimes they hate ppl only b/c someone has struck fear in them so sad but true. Warriors my ass

lol @ darn tootin

I think it's more of a gender thing, than sign.


the female pettiness causes great travesties to most relationships they engage in ... they easily become sullen and vindictive over stupid shit, which obviously is expressed by back stabbing.

Seriously ... like I wouldn't put it past a female to be jealous over best friends nailpolish color, so then steal it and wear it, and flaunt it in front of her friends nose, while the friend is frantically looking for her favorite nail color.



They are that petty

From what ive seen, sags and gems.

i've had a total of 5 ppl backstab me my whole entire life... 1 male cap, 3 female gems(ironically) and 1 male gem. *shrugs* ok well, lessons learned. :]

haha! i'm to nice... besides, if i don't like it when they do it to me... then it's not right for me to do it back. 🙂

lol @ stabbingtons!