Let's talk about Venus/Pluto aspects in synastry/composite charts...

http://astrologybits.com/venus-pluto-in-synastry/

Whenever any of these two planets are touching each other in a synastry (a combined chart of two people) something very powerful happens.

Pluto is concentrated energy, pure focus, ruthless action beyond control, obsession, destruction, and reconstruction.

Venus is charm, grace, and beauty. It’s social interaction and the outlet for love. It’s purity and blessed union.

Now, combine these two concepts and you get one of the most “fated” and “trapped into” relationships you’ll ever have. This is deeper than Mars – Venus synastry contacts.

The bond is felt like something beyond your control, and, especially in the beginning of the relationship, this might be frightening. First, you feel this unspeakable attraction towards the person in front of you and you’re drawn to that person like a moth to a flame. You surrender. And start interacting, talking and, from the first words, you feel like there was something meant to be. Things usually evolve very fast and, before you even realize what’s happening to you, you wake up one morning with an obsessive, compulsive and oh, so incredibly beautiful and intense relationship. You feel the depth of what’s lying in front of you and, scared, you try to run. Alas, it’s not possible. It really isn’t. You’re stuck.

And for a good reason: Pluto-Venus relationships are not meant to be avoided. They are meant to be lived, consumed down to your last living cell. The “infection” of Pluto in your being is unstoppable. So, usually, the person who “is” Pluto in this combination calls the shots. But, mind you, if there’s enough of emotional maturity, Venus can subtly undermine Pluto position and put him through some tough tests too, if not driving him totally crazy. But, most of the time, it’s the Pluto person who holds the power.

Pluto wants to “merge” with Venus, wants to transform her from the core, wants to burn down all of her charms and rejoice in the flames. And then he wants to rebuild Venus from the ashes, just to be able to start over again. In a way, this is exactly what’s happening, especially if there are other hard aspects in the synastry, or if one, or both of the partners are not very mature or aware. Sooner or later they’ll slip into a gigantic emotional roller-coaster, in which the need to be with one another is simply irrepressible, and they’ll start spinning until they – metaphorically – die. Which usually translates into some kind of rupture or separation. If the “garbage” that needs to be cleaned up by Pluto was cleaned, the rupture is for good. If not, the two zombies will meet again, in a hypnotic dance of love and hate, until the roller–coaster will throw them down again, tired, bruised and completely transformed.

Pluto-Venus aspects are not about durability, you need some serious Saturn in the synastry in order to make it last. Pluto-Venus is about explosion, is about deep transformation and rebirth. Now, if you are fortunate enough to have some Saturn aspects as well in the chart, like Saturn on the Ascendant in the Composite (which will make the relationship very self-contained), or, even better, some smooth Venus-Saturn interaspects in the synastry, then you’re in for a real treat. Not only you’ll experience the intensity of the Pluto-Venus dance, but you will have and enduring relationship. Meaning that each crisis will push you higher and higher. The potential for evolution in this combination is enormous. Yes, there will be a roller coaster, but with each deadly spin you’ll evolve into something bigger or better, AND, you will do this together – Saturn will take care about that. And will take about that for a long time.

Now, a little bit about jealousy and possessiveness. Yes, these are real dangers in a Venus – Pluto relationship. The Pluto person being the one experiencing them, and in a very nasty manner. The slightest sign of independence from the part of the Venus person is often misinterpreted as a sign of ending the relationship. Pluto is intense and he wants it all or nothing, now or never. Venus is sociable, and a smile is just a smile. But for Pluto, seeing the Venus person smiling to another one feels like a stab in the back. And that makes them feel powerless, defeated, deserted. Of course, they’re not, Venus is still their prisoner, but that’s how Pluto feels. So, they start to reconquer the lost ground.

And one of the most common approaches to yield back their power is withdrawal. The Pluto persons, once they know how deep they are in the other partner, start to slowly withdraw, to become unavailable. It’s not that they don’t want to merge anymore with Venus. On the contrary, they want it so much and so deep that’s almost unspeakable. But they want to do it exclusively. They want to draw Venus in their territory, to lure her into their dark house, to consume her in their bed up to the last bit of flesh and bones. So, they start this game of “catch-me-if-you-can” which can be tempting and exciting for a while, but, as all Plutonian things, it will not be only for a while. It will be taken to extremes. That’s where things can get nasty. If Venus is not mature enough, she could either be emotionally imprisoned by Pluto, or she could run away, leaving Pluto crying in an ocean of misery. Either way, if there’s not enough emotional maturity involved, it could end bad.

And then, there’s the sex. Violent, total, tantric sex. The Pluto person will be the one surprised initially. The energies aroused in him / her by the Venus person are almost uncontainable. Pluto needs to have sex with Venus, no matter what, period. And it will be the kind of sex you will remember in 20 years, still trembling with pleasure.

So, that’s what usually happens when there is only a one-way aspect, one person is only Pluto and the other one is only Venus.

But what happens when we have a “double-whammy”, meaning the partners are taking turns? The A person Pluto forms an aspect to the B person Venus, but the B person Pluto also aspects the A person Venus.

Well, there is good news and there is bad news. The good news is that, eventually, there will be a little bit of a balance here. The partners will take turns in calling the shots. There will be some sort of a power split between them. The bad news is that it will take some time until this balance is reached. And, usually, this will be a very ugly time: power games, mind games, manipulation, obsession, jealousy, everything will be used because now there are two Pluto in the field. You can easily imagine how this adds up to the intensity of the relationship. It’s one of those relationships that are changing your life from the roots: you meet with a friend you haven’t seen in a year and he doesn’t recognize you anymore. You’ve been through a double-whammy Venus – Pluto relationship and now you’re literally a different person.

The cleanse that Pluto exerts is necessary. Pluto is “the garbage man”, it takes out what’s not needed anymore and strips it away from you. The problem is that it does this with absolutely no manners. He doesn’t know what manners are, he just does his job. At the end of the power clash, you will feel so much more powerful than in the beginning. And, again, if you are lucky enough to have some Saturn there, you will enjoy a very rewarding partnership, for a long time.

Note: the violent games are taking place when there are hard aspects: conjunction or opposition. The square is particularly prone to increased tension (both in the attraction and rejection areas). With the trine and sextile, the flow is more manageable, and that usually indicates that one or both of the partners are realistically aware and able to cope maturely with the situation.

Venus Mars is more fun

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This seems to be a pretty intense aspect between two people. I had this with the Cancer (sextile) and I was the Venus....He was the obsessed one I would say as it seemed like he couldn't get enough of me and it drove him crazy (his actual words) but then it seemed I became the slightly obsessed one way later on. When we first met back in high school...we had an instant connection from the first time we saw each other. It felt like we had known each other for years and our relationship also ran pretty smoothly...we would argue etc but usually were quick to get over it. We have had this discussion multiple times thru out the years trying to figure out why we felt the way that we did about each other....not that it was hard to believe but we just never could pinpoint what the deal was....I believe this was why.

I also have this aspect with the Leo (in synastry it is trine but in the composite it is square). I'm the Pluto this time around. I'm not sure what to make of it yet tbh. When we first met there has been an instant connection....he makes me feel ridiculously comfortable (which if you know virgos...not easy thing to do). We are definitely attracted to each other...no doubt. Being so new....I cant tell how this will play out yet....I'm a little nervous lol.

I more than likely had this aspect with my Pisces as well...but without having his birth time...idk but I know he was highly obsessed with me at the beginning and I grew to be that way with him later on.

Any stories to share?....good, bad...the dark and ugly?

Posted by MyStarsShine
Venus Mars is more fun

😁

Hahaha...I have no doubts at all about that

Posted by LostinmyMind11

Posted by MyStarsShine
Venus Mars is more fun

😁

Hahaha...I have no doubts at all about that click to expand

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Sexy fun time 😀😍

I had Venus Pluto with the last guy

So not enjoyable !

Posted by MyStarsShine

Posted by LostinmyMind11

Posted by MyStarsShine
Venus Mars is more fun

😁

Hahaha...I have no doubts at all about that click to expand

Sexy fun time 😀😍

I had Venus Pluto with the last guy

So not enjoyable ! click to expand

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I can see that. I feel though that venus mars is more like a quicky and venus pluto is more like literally soul consuming which my rising likes a lot lol

Posted by UnicornSag
His Pluto square my Venus and my Venus sextile his Pluto - it was indeed explosive and rebirth has happened with the two of us clashing together

How so...can you give an example? (its ok if you dont want to share...completely understand as it tends to be kinda a private thing)

Posted by LostinmyMind11

Posted by MyStarsShine

Posted by LostinmyMind11

Posted by MyStarsShine
Venus Mars is more fun

😁

Hahaha...I have no doubts at all about that click to expand

Sexy fun time 😀😍

I had Venus Pluto with the last guy

So not enjoyable ! click to expand

I can see that. I feel though that venus mars is more like a quicky and venus pluto is more like literally soul consuming which my rising likes a lot lol click to expand

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I had both with him

Quick, slow, quick, quick slow

Lol

Posted by UnicornSag

Posted by MyStarsShine
Venus Mars is more fun

😁

How about Venus-Mars and Venus-Pluto both? click to expand

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Yes been there

Never again

Lol

I was Venus....light, romantic, playful

He was Pluto.....control freak 🙄

Posted by UnicornSag

Posted by LostinmyMind11

Posted by UnicornSag
His Pluto square my Venus and my Venus sextile his Pluto - it was indeed explosive and rebirth has happened with the two of us clashing together

How so...can you give an example? (its ok if you dont want to share...completely understand as it tends to be kinda a private thing) click to expand

We had that "magic" attraction from the first time we met. There was something special about him that I couldn't compare to anything else. He's not the perfect type of guy I'd fall for by looks. He wasn't even THAT great looking at a time but there was something incredibly attractive about him. And he showed interest immediately as well and pushed all the right buttons lol I came to meet him with no expectation whatsoever about him but felt incredibly nervous, like never before...I met random guys all the time but never felt anxious about it. Then when we first time slept together it was fireworks! Couldn't be compared to anything else. We spent whole night together doing it lol and we've been together ever since despite many rough patches that appeared over time, it was some really strong bond that kept us together despite everything. Well hopefully I didn't share too many details lol click to expand

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Yes...exactly this! Love it!

The leo is a very good looking guy but not necessarily who id be attracted to in a sense ( funny story but when I first saw him in person...I said to myself...shit, he is too good looking and I should probably turn around and go back to my car hahaha) and I also had no expectations and was actually blown away by how things went.

When meeting up with him....he was sitting down but turned right when I literally turned the corner (he had no idea where I was coming from at the time as I was just texting him to let him know) and I happened to look up from my phone (without finishing the text to him) and our eyes locked and it was nothing but smiles (tbh....It took me a sec to realize it was him and he said the same about me). I'm noticing more and more that he seems to want to be with me all the time...like we spent time last night and he left this late this morning but half an hour later he's like ...im bbq and wanted to see if you wanted to come over lol. I'm just hoping that this doesnt turn into something bad (of course not putting this all on astrology) since it can go either way.

My Scorp Venus was conjunct my ex's Scorp Pluto by 3 degrees and it was about as intense as it gets. Like so intense it blew up and we split even though a year later we're still hung up on it (yet we won't contact each other).

We had lots of other conjunctions (my Mars conj her Venus (Libra), her Sun conj my Moon (Virgo), her Venus conj my Sun (Libra) and many many more) and most of them were in Libra/Virgo, so that was the general energy between us initially. But after a few months, the crazy Pluto feelings easily overpowered everything else.

We both have a natal Pluto aspect (my Venus/Pluto are conjunct, her Moon's square Pluto), but we keep that part of us hidden from others. I think we both triggered this each other's hidden Pluto energy, especially because my Pluto was also square her Moon (we're born within 4 weeks of each other).

Ultimately, I think the fact that we couldn't talk about the underlying intensity was the biggest problem. Maybe if we addressed it head on it would've worked, but it's too late for that.

Posted by libraman20
My Scorp Venus was conjunct my ex's Scorp Pluto by 3 degrees and it was about as intense as it gets. Like so intense it blew up and we split even though a year later we're still hung up on it (yet we won't contact each other).

We had lots of other conjunctions (my Mars conj her Venus (Libra), her Sun conj my Moon (Virgo), her Venus conj my Sun (Libra) and many many more) and most of them were in Libra/Virgo, so that was the general energy between us initially. But after a few months, the crazy Pluto feelings easily overpowered everything else.

We both have a natal Pluto aspect (my Venus/Pluto are conjunct, her Moon's square Pluto), but we keep that part of us hidden from others. I think we both triggered this each other's hidden Pluto energy, especially because my Pluto was also square her Moon (we're born within 4 weeks of each other).

Ultimately, I think the fact that we couldn't talk about the underlying intensity was the biggest problem. Maybe if we addressed it head on it would've worked, but it's too late for that.

So yours wasn't so much at the beginning but little by little the Pluto stuff came into play and took over... interesting. My natal chart is pretty boring but I think the Leo's chart has some interesting stuff going on....I'm gonna have to look more into that.

Why is it too late? Just because of the stubbornness on both sides?

Posted by Lioness18881
I had my pluto sextile a scorps venus. Sexual chemistry was amazing! Like a sex obsession. He turned me on, was sweet and everything i could ask for but i didn't catch feelings. The emotional part was missing for some reason. 🤷

Damn that sucks. It seems like there is always something missing ...rare you find it all in someone. I envy people that do.

Posted by LostinmyMind11

So yours wasn't so much at the beginning but little by little the Pluto stuff came into play and took over... interesting. My natal chart is pretty boring but I think the Leo's chart has some interesting stuff going on....I'm gonna have to look more into that.

Why is it too late? Just because of the stubbornness on both sides? click to expand

Yeah, it was very much a Libra/Virgo (or Venus/Merc) themed relationship with lots of flirting, romance and intellectual conversations.

But the Pluto depths were the deepest part of both of us -- her with her Moon and me with my Venus. Neither of us ever had strong Pluto aspects in previous relationships, so that "intensity/darkness" was not something we associated with a partner...until we met each other.

They say you have to be ready and mature to fully handle Pluto's energy, and only then can it be beneficial. But I probably wasn't ready, and she definitely wasn't, and this happened to be a tidal wave of Plutonic energy...