I've been told twice that ''confirmation bias'' is why I believe in astrology after explaining to them that I've guessed strangers signs correctly. Thoughts?
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Skeptics, cute.
Challenge them to explain why astrology works for so many people.
Challenge them to explain why astrology works for so many people.
Most people think astrology is the act
of predicting the future by reading the
blurbs in the Lifestyle section of the
Newspaper.
of predicting the future by reading the
blurbs in the Lifestyle section of the
Newspaper.
I have to agree. When you look for something hard enough, you will find it.
Posted by MontgomeryYUP.
Most people think astrology is the act
of predicting the future by reading the
blurbs in the Lifestyle section of the
Newspaper.
Posted by HeartIs Clark Kent an Aries?Posted by GoooberI've guessed an up and coming actor's moon sign. He looked exactly like a Taurus but his birthday was later in the year. It's so frightening, and it would be great to have a chance to see with these skeptics and have them show us photos of random people, then write down how many we get.
I've been told twice that ''confirmation bias'' is why I believe in astrology after explaining to them that I've guessed strangers signs correctly. Thoughts?
Aries - Intense eyes, chiseled jaw for men- often wear glasses, both genders
Taurus - Soft eyes and very fit or curvy
Gemini - Always seem to have that glow because one of their twins wears a halo
Cancer - Oval face and large chest for women, weight issues for men
Leo - round face, loud voice
Virgo - bookish though with a mysterious vixen air, often thin
Libra - Hard to tell, they always blend into the furniture
Scorpio - Deep hypnotic eyes
Sagittarius - Always chirpy looking, very tall and confident like a centaur
Capricorn - Fit or muscular for both genders, very reserved and must always seem busy
Aquarius - Many have red hair, slightly hard to recognize if it wasn't for their quirkiness
Pisces - Gentle, almost alien-like, with Disney-type features and a soft voiceclick to expand
Posted by HeartHe did? Did a crap job at it, considering it's making a comeback now.Posted by SirHornsThe best astrologers are the ones who admit even after years they still know little.
Skeptics, cute.
Challenge them to explain why astrology works for so many people.
Astronomers are always finding new asteroids and planets, and astrologer aren't too far behind.
Einstein debunked astrology and yet he came up with the Theory of Relativity while standing on a mountain. How many scientists do that?
Then we have to admit the possibility of ghosts and aliens if one does prove astrology. 😄click to expand
Meh, even if both slapped you in the face, how does it benefit your life or pay your bills? /Earth Sign Practical
I will admit if both existed, I'd be interested in what kind of markets would emerge from their "discovery".
Let's how it's as crappy as Sci-Fi shows/books usually make it.
Posted by SirHornsRight.
Skeptics, cute.
Challenge them to explain why astrology works for so many people.
Trust me, I have. Pure denial. I even pointed out to the Leo I'm discussing this with how hairy he is and how thick his hair is. I explained to him that it's common in Leos. Pure denial but I know I got him for sure. His pride is just getting in the way of him just admitting it.
Posted by MontgomeryYou don't know how many times I've had to explain to people that there's a difference between the horoscopes and the zodiac signs.
Most people think astrology is the act
of predicting the future by reading the
blurbs in the Lifestyle section of the
Newspaper.
Posted by HeartYep. Crazy part is, he's a Leo and he's extremely hairy. I pointed that out to him and he's in pure denial.Posted by GoooberI've guessed an up and coming actor's moon sign. He looked exactly like a Taurus but his birthday was later in the year. It's so frightening, and it would be great to have a chance to see with these skeptics and have them show us photos of random people, then write down how many we get.
I've been told twice that ''confirmation bias'' is why I believe in astrology after explaining to them that I've guessed strangers signs correctly. Thoughts?
Aries - Intense eyes, chiseled jaw for men- often wear glasses, both genders
Taurus - Soft eyes and very fit or curvy
Gemini - Always seem to have that glow because one of their twins wears a halo
Cancer - Oval face and large chest for women, weight issues for men
Leo - round face, loud voice
Virgo - bookish though with a mysterious vixen air, often thin
Libra - Hard to tell, they always blend into the furniture
Scorpio - Deep hypnotic eyes
Sagittarius - Always chirpy looking, very tall and confident like a centaur
Capricorn - Fit or muscular for both genders, very reserved and must always seem busy
Aquarius - Many have red hair, slightly hard to recognize if it wasn't for their quirkiness
Pisces - Gentle, almost alien-like, with Disney-type features and a soft voiceclick to expand
Posted by tizianiThey are related in that people often dismiss what doesn't add up in favor of what does to validate what it is they believe. For example: "OMG! Aries are so hard-headed!" "My Uncle was an Aries, and he was one of the most laid back people I have known!" "What was his X sign?" "Taurus." "And what was his Y sign?" "Capricorn." "Duh! THAT explains it!" "Yeah, but I ain't had those placement and she -""There is more to people than their sun sign." "Yeah, but -" "People just don't get that about astrology."Posted by GoooberHow are the two even related?
I've been told twice that ''confirmation bias'' is why I believe in astrology after explaining to them that I've guessed strangers signs correctly. Thoughts?
Either way, the more I learn about astrology the more there is to be skeptical about - most of it is rampaging bs. It's not astrology's fault, it's in how people understand it and re-tell the tale.click to expand
Meh. It's so fickle. When I meet an Aries, I automatically noticed the similarities. I take to guessing library patron's signs as a game, and I have been rather successful at it. I correctly guessed my newspaper advisor's sun sign was Piscese because always had this mixed look of intensity and confusion on his face and always seemed to be in a hurry. Plus, he was very self-critical, and he did this thing where he spaced out while I talked to him and he would literally shake his head back to reality before responding to me.
"I ain't" = my aunt
Posted by tizianiThat's what I was trying to figure out.Posted by GoooberHow are the two even related?
I've been told twice that ''confirmation bias'' is why I believe in astrology after explaining to them that I've guessed strangers signs correctly. Thoughts?
Either way, the more I learn about astrology the more there is to be skeptical about - most of it is rampaging bs. It's not astrology's fault, it's in how people understand it and re-tell the tale.click to expand
I've also explained to them I believe in it...for the most part. Based upon what I know and have observed.
*when I meet
*library patrons'
*because he always
*library patrons'
*because he always
Posted by LillyPetalThat's the thing, I don't dismiss things that don't support my claims bc I've never argued that for instance, ''Leos are hairy''. I say ''Leos tend to be hairy''. There's a difference.Posted by tizianiThey are related in that people often dismiss what doesn't add up in favor of what does to validate what it is they believe. For example: "OMG! Aries are so hard-headed!" "My Uncle was an Aries, and he was one of the most laid back people I have known!" "What was his X sign?" "Taurus." "And what was his Y sign?" "Capricorn." "Duh! THAT explains it!" "Yeah, but I ain't had those placement and she -""There is more to people than their sun sign." "Yeah, but -" "People just don't get that about astrology."Posted by GoooberHow are the two even related?
I've been told twice that ''confirmation bias'' is why I believe in astrology after explaining to them that I've guessed strangers signs correctly. Thoughts?
Either way, the more I learn about astrology the more there is to be skeptical about - most of it is rampaging bs. It's not astrology's fault, it's in how people understand it and re-tell the tale.
Meh. It's so fickle. When I meet an Aries, I automatically noticed the similarities. I take to guessing library patron's signs as a game, and I have been rather successful at it. I correctly guessed my newspaper advisor's sun sign was Piscese because always had this mixed look of intensity and confusion on his face and always seemed to be in a hurry. Plus, he was very self-critical, and he did this thing where he spaced out while I talked to him and he would literally shake his head back to reality before responding to me.click to expand
Posted by Vixen2Same. My Taurus cousin. First she thought it was baloney and would dismiss me until she wanted to know about some guy who she was dating. Turns out, he was an Aries and the guy before that was also an Aries. Their birthdays were a day apart. After that, she won't leave me alone about it.
I guarantee many people think I'm strange for adoring astrology..
and strange for my nontraditional spiritual beliefs but I don't care. Usually it's those same people that run to me to ask my opinion on things...and what they want is astrological advice or tarot reading...whatever.
Posted by GoooberIt's all too convenient. You could make that statement about ANY sign and it will be true for SOMEBODY. That's my point. While studying chemistry, if every time I went to calculate the molar mass of a compound, and the mass of each individual element that made up the company changed every single time I approached a problem, I would say: "Really? There is no consistency and although the MM of Argon is most often 40.0 (rounded), it is sometimes 30, 12, 56, 33...WHICH IS IT?" If it's what I want it to be, then that's not very real, and the foundation is rooted in Pony Land. Even Hogwarts has consistency.Posted by LillyPetalThat's the thing, I don't dismiss things that don't support my claims bc I've never argued that for instance, ''Leos are hairy''. I say ''Leos tend to be hairy''. There's a difference.Posted by tizianiThey are related in that people often dismiss what doesn't add up in favor of what does to validate what it is they believe. For example: "OMG! Aries are so hard-headed!" "My Uncle was an Aries, and he was one of the most laid back people I have known!" "What was his X sign?" "Taurus." "And what was his Y sign?" "Capricorn." "Duh! THAT explains it!" "Yeah, but I ain't had those placement and she -""There is more to people than their sun sign." "Yeah, but -" "People just don't get that about astrology."Posted by GoooberHow are the two even related?
I've been told twice that ''confirmation bias'' is why I believe in astrology after explaining to them that I've guessed strangers signs correctly. Thoughts?
Either way, the more I learn about astrology the more there is to be skeptical about - most of it is rampaging bs. It's not astrology's fault, it's in how people understand it and re-tell the tale.
Meh. It's so fickle. When I meet an Aries, I automatically noticed the similarities. I take to guessing library patron's signs as a game, and I have been rather successful at it. I correctly guessed my newspaper advisor's sun sign was Piscese because always had this mixed look of intensity and confusion on his face and always seemed to be in a hurry. Plus, he was very self-critical, and he did this thing where he spaced out while I talked to him and he would literally shake his head back to reality before responding to me.click to expand
Posted by tizianiWhat she probably means is: "If astrology is fake, then how am I so accurate in my guesses? Hence, astrology must be real, or I wouldn't have this ability."Posted by LillyPetalI meant I don't understandPosted by tizianiThey are related in that people often dismiss what doesn't add up in favor of what does to validate what it is they believe. For example: "OMG! Aries are so hard-headed!" "My Uncle was an Aries, and he was one of the most laid back people I have known!" "What was his X sign?" "Taurus." "And what was his Y sign?" "Capricorn." "Duh! THAT explains it!" "Yeah, but I ain't had those placement and she -""There is more to people than their sun sign." "Yeah, but -" "People just don't get that about astrology."Posted by GoooberHow are the two even related?
I've been told twice that ''confirmation bias'' is why I believe in astrology after explaining to them that I've guessed strangers signs correctly. Thoughts?
Either way, the more I learn about astrology the more there is to be skeptical about - most of it is rampaging bs. It's not astrology's fault, it's in how people understand it and re-tell the tale.
Meh. It's so fickle. When I meet an Aries, I automatically noticed the similarities. I take to guessing library patron's signs as a game, and I have been rather successful at it. I correctly guessed my newspaper advisor's sun sign was Piscese because always had this mixed look of intensity and confusion on his face and always seemed to be in a hurry. Plus, he was very self-critical, and he did this thing where he spaced out while I talked to him and he would literally shake his head back to reality before responding to me.
"I've been told twice that confirmation bias is why I believe in astrology"
is related to
"I've guessed strangers signs correctly"
Seems to be two different issues.click to expand
Posted by LillyPetal...asking for consistency from human behavior?Posted by GoooberIt's all too convenient. You could make that statement about ANY sign and it will be true for SOMEBODY. That's my point. While studying chemistry, if every time I went to calculate the molar mass of a compound, and the mass of each individual element that made up the company changed every single time I approached a problem, I would say: "Really? There is no consistency and although the MM of Argon is most often 40.0 (rounded), it is sometimes 30, 12, 56, 33...WHICH IS IT?" If it's what I want it to be, then that's not very real, and the foundation is rooted in Pony Land. Even Hogwarts has consistency.Posted by LillyPetalThat's the thing, I don't dismiss things that don't support my claims bc I've never argued that for instance, ''Leos are hairy''. I say ''Leos tend to be hairy''. There's a difference.Posted by tizianiThey are related in that people often dismiss what doesn't add up in favor of what does to validate what it is they believe. For example: "OMG! Aries are so hard-headed!" "My Uncle was an Aries, and he was one of the most laid back people I have known!" "What was his X sign?" "Taurus." "And what was his Y sign?" "Capricorn." "Duh! THAT explains it!" "Yeah, but I ain't had those placement and she -""There is more to people than their sun sign." "Yeah, but -" "People just don't get that about astrology."Posted by GoooberHow are the two even related?
I've been told twice that ''confirmation bias'' is why I believe in astrology after explaining to them that I've guessed strangers signs correctly. Thoughts?
Either way, the more I learn about astrology the more there is to be skeptical about - most of it is rampaging bs. It's not astrology's fault, it's in how people understand it and re-tell the tale.
Meh. It's so fickle. When I meet an Aries, I automatically noticed the similarities. I take to guessing library patron's signs as a game, and I have been rather successful at it. I correctly guessed my newspaper advisor's sun sign was Piscese because always had this mixed look of intensity and confusion on his face and always seemed to be in a hurry. Plus, he was very self-critical, and he did this thing where he spaced out while I talked to him and he would literally shake his head back to reality before responding to me.click to expand
@SirHorns, Asking for consistency in the foundations and laws that a concept is based on. It's like when people say Aries/Astro combo make good [otter hypnotists] because as an Aries they [insert characteristics], then to support their opinions they list a bunch of well-known individuals that fall under that astrological sign/combination and occupation. Yes, but what about everyone else? It doesn't take into account the people with that sign/combination that are NOT otter hypnotists.
Posted by tizianiAll I know is that so far, most Leo sun and risings (I'll include them) that I've come across, have been hairy. They'll have bushy brows, thick full hairlines, ''great'' hair, hairy arms and things of that nature. I think that has been true too many times to be a coincidence. Maybe I haven't looked at enough Leo suns over time but I'm quite confident that if I did, they'd prove my ''claims'' to be true. But hey, it's whatever.Posted by GoooberI think all your friend is saying is if you look at enough Leo Suns over time there really is no major evidence to suggest this is true.Posted by LillyPetalThat's the thing, I don't dismiss things that don't support my claims bc I've never argued that for instance, ''Leos are hairy''. I say ''Leos tend to be hairy''. There's a difference.Posted by tizianiThey are related in that people often dismiss what doesn't add up in favor of what does to validate what it is they believe. For example: "OMG! Aries are so hard-headed!" "My Uncle was an Aries, and he was one of the most laid back people I have known!" "What was his X sign?" "Taurus." "And what was his Y sign?" "Capricorn." "Duh! THAT explains it!" "Yeah, but I ain't had those placement and she -""There is more to people than their sun sign." "Yeah, but -" "People just don't get that about astrology."Posted by GoooberHow are the two even related?
I've been told twice that ''confirmation bias'' is why I believe in astrology after explaining to them that I've guessed strangers signs correctly. Thoughts?
Either way, the more I learn about astrology the more there is to be skeptical about - most of it is rampaging bs. It's not astrology's fault, it's in how people understand it and re-tell the tale.
Meh. It's so fickle. When I meet an Aries, I automatically noticed the similarities. I take to guessing library patron's signs as a game, and I have been rather successful at it. I correctly guessed my newspaper advisor's sun sign was Piscese because always had this mixed look of intensity and confusion on his face and always seemed to be in a hurry. Plus, he was very self-critical, and he did this thing where he spaced out while I talked to him and he would literally shake his head back to reality before responding to me.click to expand
Posted by LillyPetalI never argued it wasn't going to be true from someone of a different sign. I've never argued that the hairy trait is only found on LeosPosted by GoooberIt's all too convenient. You could make that statement about ANY sign and it will be true for SOMEBODY. That's my point. While studying chemistry, if every time I went to calculate the molar mass of a compound, and the mass of each individual element that made up the company changed every single time I approached a problem, I would say: "Really? There is no consistency and although the MM of Argon is most often 40.0 (rounded), it is sometimes 30, 12, 56, 33...WHICH IS IT?" If it's what I want it to be, then that's not very real, and the foundation is rooted in Pony Land. Even Hogwarts has consistency.Posted by LillyPetalThat's the thing, I don't dismiss things that don't support my claims bc I've never argued that for instance, ''Leos are hairy''. I say ''Leos tend to be hairy''. There's a difference.Posted by tizianiThey are related in that people often dismiss what doesn't add up in favor of what does to validate what it is they believe. For example: "OMG! Aries are so hard-headed!" "My Uncle was an Aries, and he was one of the most laid back people I have known!" "What was his X sign?" "Taurus." "And what was his Y sign?" "Capricorn." "Duh! THAT explains it!" "Yeah, but I ain't had those placement and she -""There is more to people than their sun sign." "Yeah, but -" "People just don't get that about astrology."Posted by GoooberHow are the two even related?
I've been told twice that ''confirmation bias'' is why I believe in astrology after explaining to them that I've guessed strangers signs correctly. Thoughts?
Either way, the more I learn about astrology the more there is to be skeptical about - most of it is rampaging bs. It's not astrology's fault, it's in how people understand it and re-tell the tale.
Meh. It's so fickle. When I meet an Aries, I automatically noticed the similarities. I take to guessing library patron's signs as a game, and I have been rather successful at it. I correctly guessed my newspaper advisor's sun sign was Piscese because always had this mixed look of intensity and confusion on his face and always seemed to be in a hurry. Plus, he was very self-critical, and he did this thing where he spaced out while I talked to him and he would literally shake his head back to reality before responding to me.click to expand
Posted by LillyPetalHere is the thing, they speak in general.
@SirHorns, Asking for consistency in the foundations and laws that a concept is based on. It's like when people say Aries/Astro combo make good [otter hypnotists] because as an Aries they [insert characteristics], then to support their opinions they list a bunch of well-known individuals that fall under that astrological sign/combination and occupation. Yes, but what about everyone else? It doesn't take into account the people with that sign/combination that are NOT otter hypnotists.
If a person wanted to know why they, as an Aries, had no desire to be am otter hypnotist, then they have to see someone who actually knew what they were doing.
I.E. an Astrologer. Then they hear about what influences in their chart indicates a lack of interest in otter hypnotizing.
No two charts are the same, not even twins. So it's absurd to try to ask for 100% constancy, since that would ONLY work if every single human agreed to do the same thing and NOT do anything else, otherwise it wouldn't be 100% .
So only way to do that is remove the free will humans have to do anything or nothing, good or bad, etc.
Astrology only shows what influences a person, what the person does is on their own will and desire.
Posted by tizianiOk, I understand a little. I'm all for proving things so that's not a problem. I've offered to show multiple examples(and I'm sure I can rack up more) so I get right to it... when I get a chance. Thanks btw.Posted by GoooberYou have that ability and that's to your credit. I just think, your friend is being a real friend by telling you "prove it". Proving it would be... finding out you can be accurate to at least a range of 200 Leo Suns if not 2000.
All I know is that so far, most Leo sun and risings (I'll include them) that I've come across, have been hairy. They'll have bushy brows, thick full hairlines, ''great'' hair, hairy arms and things of that nature. I think that has been true too many times to be a coincidence. Maybe I haven't looked at enough Leo suns over time but I'm quite confident that if I did, they'd prove my ''claims'' to be true. But hey, it's whatever.
I don't think your friend is being stubborn. There is believing in something and then there is letting it carry you to being open minded. If it just turns into an ability where you tell yourself "I know I'm right regardless" then that's just the same stubborness you're pointing out in him.
And that's where astrology for me strays from faith to just the close-minded bs of "all Gemini Venus people are cheatery!" crap that you see online. It's not horoscopes that are to blame. Astrology as a community is its own worst enemy imo. No one ever really puts in the work to substantiate their beliefs after knowing 5 or 6 exes that fit the pattern they want to see.
This could be you or it could not be. You strike me as open minded.click to expand
Posted by SirHornsBut how does being an otter hypnotist get to be the standard in the first place, and everything else get to be the exception? Who decides? Why isn't being a stingray behavioral expert, for example, the standard and otter hypnotist the exception?Posted by LillyPetalHere is the thing, they speak in general.
@SirHorns, Asking for consistency in the foundations and laws that a concept is based on. It's like when people say Aries/Astro combo make good [otter hypnotists] because as an Aries they [insert characteristics], then to support their opinions they list a bunch of well-known individuals that fall under that astrological sign/combination and occupation. Yes, but what about everyone else? It doesn't take into account the people with that sign/combination that are NOT otter hypnotists.
If a person wanted to know why they, as an Aries, had no desire to be am otter hypnotist, then they have to see someone who actually knew what they were doing.
I.E. an Astrologer. Then they hear about what influences in their chart indicates a lack of interest in otter hypnotizing.
No two charts are the same, not even twins. So it's absurd to try to ask for 100% constancy, since that would ONLY work if every single human agreed to do the same thing and NOT do anything else, otherwise it wouldn't be 100% .
So only way to do that is remove the free will humans have to do anything or nothing, good or bad, etc.
Astrology only shows what influences a person, what the person does is on their own will and desire.click to expand
Posted by LillyPetalThey're not rules, they are common behaviors each sign expresses.Posted by SirHornsBut how does being an otter hypnotist get to be the standard in the first place, and everything else get to be the exception? Who decides? Why isn't being a stingray behavioral expert, for example, the standard and otter hypnotist the exception?Posted by LillyPetalHere is the thing, they speak in general.
@SirHorns, Asking for consistency in the foundations and laws that a concept is based on. It's like when people say Aries/Astro combo make good [otter hypnotists] because as an Aries they [insert characteristics], then to support their opinions they list a bunch of well-known individuals that fall under that astrological sign/combination and occupation. Yes, but what about everyone else? It doesn't take into account the people with that sign/combination that are NOT otter hypnotists.
If a person wanted to know why they, as an Aries, had no desire to be am otter hypnotist, then they have to see someone who actually knew what they were doing.
I.E. an Astrologer. Then they hear about what influences in their chart indicates a lack of interest in otter hypnotizing.
No two charts are the same, not even twins. So it's absurd to try to ask for 100% constancy, since that would ONLY work if every single human agreed to do the same thing and NOT do anything else, otherwise it wouldn't be 100% .
So only way to do that is remove the free will humans have to do anything or nothing, good or bad, etc.
Astrology only shows what influences a person, what the person does is on their own will and desire.click to expand
Why Cancer isn't listed as Aloof, while Capricorn is, is dude from centuries worth of observation from various civilizations.
"Modern astrology" today is just a continuation of the astrology of past, with various changes due to changes within humanity as a whole or loss of information due to the nasty habit of books and civilizations getting destroyed.
@Gooober: I didn't say you did [argue that all Leos are hairy and it's a trait only found in Leos.] You're missing my point. If I should say: "Most women prefer pink, but there are exceptions, and there are some men who like pink, too." Then how can I POSSIBLY ever be wrong?
Posted by SirHornsIt's impossible to draw these conclusions because a controlled study cannot be had. I don't believe that various civilizations were taken to account when these statements were agreed upon. The very same explanation that those who believe in astrology use to explain the inconsistencies is the very same reason why a conclusive study on any level cannot realistically occur. There are way too many variables in place.Posted by LillyPetalThey're not rules, they are common behaviors each sign expresses.Posted by SirHornsBut how does being an otter hypnotist get to be the standard in the first place, and everything else get to be the exception? Who decides? Why isn't being a stingray behavioral expert, for example, the standard and otter hypnotist the exception?Posted by LillyPetalHere is the thing, they speak in general.
@SirHorns, Asking for consistency in the foundations and laws that a concept is based on. It's like when people say Aries/Astro combo make good [otter hypnotists] because as an Aries they [insert characteristics], then to support their opinions they list a bunch of well-known individuals that fall under that astrological sign/combination and occupation. Yes, but what about everyone else? It doesn't take into account the people with that sign/combination that are NOT otter hypnotists.
If a person wanted to know why they, as an Aries, had no desire to be am otter hypnotist, then they have to see someone who actually knew what they were doing.
I.E. an Astrologer. Then they hear about what influences in their chart indicates a lack of interest in otter hypnotizing.
No two charts are the same, not even twins. So it's absurd to try to ask for 100% constancy, since that would ONLY work if every single human agreed to do the same thing and NOT do anything else, otherwise it wouldn't be 100% .
So only way to do that is remove the free will humans have to do anything or nothing, good or bad, etc.
Astrology only shows what influences a person, what the person does is on their own will and desire.
Why Cancer isn't listed as Aloof, while Capricorn is, is dude from centuries worth of observation from various civilizations.
"Modern astrology" today is just a continuation of the astrology of past, with various changes due to changes within humanity as a whole or loss of information due to the nasty habit of books and civilizations getting destroyed.click to expand
Gooober's statement regarding Leos as an example: a Leo at my college is not hairy; in fact, he has less hair than I do. He's N
Gooober's statement regarding Leos as an example: a Leo at my college is not hairy; in fact, he has less hair than I do. He's Nigerian, and perhaps that is why. Gooober's cannot have possibly met enough Leos to come to such a conclusion. Shall we reduce it to: "Astrology is what is true for you, your life, your opinions, and your observations?" That way, everyone is right - that's a philosophical conundrum. If one person says apples are fruit and another says it's a computer, while another says it's a person, they can't all be right, can they?
My example is obviously made with my tongue in my cheek, but you get my point. Perhaps I have inadvertently argued you point - time will tell.
Astrology cannot take race and culture into account because it'll end up with more exceptions than the English language. Indeed, the surest way to destroy a civilization is through their culture.
My example is obviously made with my tongue in my cheek, but you get my point. Perhaps I have inadvertently argued you point - time will tell.
Astrology cannot take race and culture into account because it'll end up with more exceptions than the English language. Indeed, the surest way to destroy a civilization is through their culture.
Posted by LillyPetalWhat's a good number of examples to you for you to consider my claim to some what true? I can provide numerous examples of Leo celebs that are extremely hairy in some way.
Gooober's statement regarding Leos as an example: a Leo at my college is not hairy; in fact, he has less hair than I do. He's Nigerian, and perhaps that is why. Gooober's cannot have possibly met enough Leos to come to such a conclusion. Shall we reduce it to: "Astrology is what is true for you, your life, your opinions, and your observations?" That way, everyone is right - that's a philosophical conundrum. If one person says apples are fruit and another says it's a computer, while another says it's a person, they can't all be right, can they?
My example is obviously made with my tongue in my cheek, but you get my point. Perhaps I have inadvertently argued you point - time will tell.
Astrology cannot take race and culture into account because it'll end up with more exceptions than the English language. Indeed, the surest way to destroy a civilization is through their culture.
Posted by GoooberPosted by LillyPetalI never argued it wasn't goingPosted by GoooberIt's all too convenient. You could make that statement about ANY sign and it will be true for SOMEBODY. That's my point. While studying chemistry, if every time I went to calculate the molar mass of a compound, and the mass of each individual element that made up the company changed every single time I approached a problem, I would say: "Really? There is no consistency and although the MM of Argon is most often 40.0 (rounded), it is sometimes 30, 12, 56, 33...WHICH IS IT?" If it's what I want it to be, then that's not very real, and the foundation is rooted in Pony Land. Even Hogwarts has consistency.Posted by LillyPetalThat's the thing, I don't dismiss things that don't support my claims bc I've never argued that for instance, ''Leos are hairy''. I say ''Leos tend to be hairy''. There's a difference.Posted by tizianiThey are related in that people often dismiss what doesn't add up in favor of what does to validate what it is they believe. For example: "OMG! Aries are so hard-headed!" "My Uncle was an Aries, and he was one of the most laid back people I have known!" "What was his X sign?" "Taurus." "And what was his Y sign?" "Capricorn." "Duh! THAT explains it!" "Yeah, but I ain't had those placement and she -""There is more to people than their sun sign." "Yeah, but -" "People just don't get that about astrology."Posted by GoooberHow are the two even related?
I've been told twice that ''confirmation bias'' is why I believe in astrology after explaining to them that I've guessed strangers signs correctly. Thoughts?
Either way, the more I learn about astrology the more there is to be skeptical about - most of it is rampaging bs. It's not astrology's fault, it's in how people understand it and re-tell the tale.
Meh. It's so fickle. When I meet an Aries, I automatically noticed the similarities. I take to guessing library patron's signs as a game, and I have been rather successful at it. I correctly guessed my newspaper advisor's sun sign was Piscese because always had this mixed look of intensity and confusion on his face and always seemed to be in a hurry. Plus, he was very self-critical, and he did this thing where he spaced out while I talked to him and he would literally shake his head back to reality before responding to me.click to expand
this conversation is hilarious!! it would make sense that masculine energies make alot of hairy stuff. Testosterone city!!!
anyway i got cut off sooooo...
i've known some leo risings but throw in dominant virgo in there and they have less hair. 😆 the feminine virgin energy negates it. i mean...if we're talking about hairy hairy like gorilla hairy. the hairiest man i've ever been with is my husband.and that's saying alot since plenty are way more hairier out there by googling hairy men. haven't done it, but i'm very very sure i dont have to even search.
anyway i got cut off sooooo...
i've known some leo risings but throw in dominant virgo in there and they have less hair. 😆 the feminine virgin energy negates it. i mean...if we're talking about hairy hairy like gorilla hairy. the hairiest man i've ever been with is my husband.and that's saying alot since plenty are way more hairier out there by googling hairy men. haven't done it, but i'm very very sure i dont have to even search.
i wonder what placements/signs he is.
Posted by Goooberhow about if they are asian men??Posted by LillyPetalWhat's a good number of examples to you for you to consider my claim to some what true? I can provide numerous examples of Leo celebs that are extremely hairy in some way.
Gooober's statement regarding Leos as an example: a Leo at my college is not hairy; in fact, he has less hair than I do. He's Nigerian, and perhaps that is why. Gooober's cannot have possibly met enough Leos to come to such a conclusion. Shall we reduce it to: "Astrology is what is true for you, your life, your opinions, and your observations?" That way, everyone is right - that's a philosophical conundrum. If one person says apples are fruit and another says it's a computer, while another says it's a person, they can't all be right, can they?
My example is obviously made with my tongue in my cheek, but you get my point. Perhaps I have inadvertently argued you point - time will tell.
Astrology cannot take race and culture into account because it'll end up with more exceptions than the English language. Indeed, the surest way to destroy a civilization is through their culture.click to expand
no offense to full blooded asian men, but they are the less hairier versions of those types if we 're counting hairs.
Posted by lisabethur8I'm sure they're out there 🙂Posted by Goooberhow about if they are asian men??Posted by LillyPetalWhat's a good number of examples to you for you to consider my claim to some what true? I can provide numerous examples of Leo celebs that are extremely hairy in some way.
Gooober's statement regarding Leos as an example: a Leo at my college is not hairy; in fact, he has less hair than I do. He's Nigerian, and perhaps that is why. Gooober's cannot have possibly met enough Leos to come to such a conclusion. Shall we reduce it to: "Astrology is what is true for you, your life, your opinions, and your observations?" That way, everyone is right - that's a philosophical conundrum. If one person says apples are fruit and another says it's a computer, while another says it's a person, they can't all be right, can they?
My example is obviously made with my tongue in my cheek, but you get my point. Perhaps I have inadvertently argued you point - time will tell.
Astrology cannot take race and culture into account because it'll end up with more exceptions than the English language. Indeed, the surest way to destroy a civilization is through their culture.
no offense to full blooded asian men, but they are the less hairier versions of those types if we 're counting hairs.click to expand
I'm still trying to figure out whether things in astrology are accurate or if they correlate.
However- Physical characteristics are based more on ethnicity than the zodiac.
I have fair skin, and light hair- as does my boyfriend- both Leos- and we are by far from hairy.
I have a Libra friend who is Hispanic- She has been waxing and shaving her arms since we were like 12.
However- Physical characteristics are based more on ethnicity than the zodiac.
I have fair skin, and light hair- as does my boyfriend- both Leos- and we are by far from hairy.
I have a Libra friend who is Hispanic- She has been waxing and shaving her arms since we were like 12.
Posted by MontgomeryI hate when people think that's what astrology is! So ignorant
Most people think astrology is the act
of predicting the future by reading the
blurbs in the Lifestyle section of the
Newspaper.
Posted by GoooberI don't think it's denial.Posted by SirHornsRight.
Skeptics, cute.
Challenge them to explain why astrology works for so many people.
Trust me, I have. Pure denial. I even pointed out to the Leo I'm discussing this with how hairy he is and how thick his hair is. I explained to him that it's common in Leos. Pure denial but I know I got him for sure. His pride is just getting in the way of him just admitting it.click to expand
If someone told me my hair was based more on the time of month i was born vs my genetics.
I'd think the person was crazy.
Posted by Skittyid say they correlate. Your rising sign can take a huge affect of your looks too.
I'm still trying to figure out whether things in astrology are accurate or if they correlate.
However- Physical characteristics are based more on ethnicity than the zodiac.
I have fair skin, and light hair- as does my boyfriend- both Leos- and we are by far from hairy.
I have a Libra friend who is Hispanic- She has been waxing and shaving her arms since we were like 12.
I thought this taurus woman was an aries bc she looked like one. She was a taurus but her rising sign was Aries.
Posted by SkittyI said leos tend to have a lot of hair somewhere. Not all of them. Let me just leave this here.Posted by GoooberI don't think it's denial.Posted by SirHornsRight.
Skeptics, cute.
Challenge them to explain why astrology works for so many people.
Trust me, I have. Pure denial. I even pointed out to the Leo I'm discussing this with how hairy he is and how thick his hair is. I explained to him that it's common in Leos. Pure denial but I know I got him for sure. His pride is just getting in the way of him just admitting it.
If someone told me my hair was based more on the time of month i was born vs my genetics.
I'd think the person was crazy.
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See and this is why i find it difficult to find some truth in astrology.
If something doesn't add up, people try to justify it by a house it's in- if that doesn't add up, it based on the angles- But the point is that eventually you will come to some sort of similarity, but there isn't a similarity. You yourself are trying to creating one.
I don't have an "excess" of hair anywhere. Neither does my boyfriend. I clicked on your link- and they seem like pretty average eyebrows. Each eyebrow looks fairly different in shape and in volume. I don't see any how that correlates to anything you've said. They look like standard brows.
If something doesn't add up, people try to justify it by a house it's in- if that doesn't add up, it based on the angles- But the point is that eventually you will come to some sort of similarity, but there isn't a similarity. You yourself are trying to creating one.
I don't have an "excess" of hair anywhere. Neither does my boyfriend. I clicked on your link- and they seem like pretty average eyebrows. Each eyebrow looks fairly different in shape and in volume. I don't see any how that correlates to anything you've said. They look like standard brows.
italian men are generally hairy anyway right?? 😆
no offense....
oh wait. Maybe Italian men like hearing that cause well, you know, manly and stuff!!!
my relatives tell me i categorize too much. I'm like, well that's how i am, can't change it. they are just gonna have to DEAL.
and make sure they dont get paired with someone who categorizes.
my cap mother in law agreed with me tonight saying, "well, it makes life SIMPLIER."
no offense....
oh wait. Maybe Italian men like hearing that cause well, you know, manly and stuff!!!
my relatives tell me i categorize too much. I'm like, well that's how i am, can't change it. they are just gonna have to DEAL.
and make sure they dont get paired with someone who categorizes.
my cap mother in law agreed with me tonight saying, "well, it makes life SIMPLIER."
Posted by SkittyYou keep telling me about you and your boyfriend as if I said all Leos will be hairy or something. No. Plus, I don't know what you consider hairy bc you just told me the examples I gave were average eyebrows and that's just ridiculous but whatever. They're extremely hairy and that was the point I was trying to make. Not volume or shape, like, what?
See and this is why i find it difficult to find some truth in astrology.
If something doesn't add up, people try to justify it by a house it's in- if that doesn't add up, it based on the angles- But the point is that eventually you will come to some sort of similarity, but there isn't a similarity. You yourself are trying to creating one.
I don't have an "excess" of hair anywhere. Neither does my boyfriend. I clicked on your link- and they seem like pretty average eyebrows. Each eyebrow looks fairly different in shape and in volume. I don't see any how that correlates to anything you've said. They look like standard brows.
Posted by tizianiI personally don't think your rising sign ONLY determines how you physically look. It could affect how you come off to others personality wise too. It could be one, the other or both imo.Posted by GoooberI'd say it's possibly one of the big three that have some influence on ageing/looks but I have stopped understanding why anyone (in general) says rising = physical looks.Posted by Skittyid say they correlate. Your rising sign can take a huge affect of your looks too.
I'm still trying to figure out whether things in astrology are accurate or if they correlate.
However- Physical characteristics are based more on ethnicity than the zodiac.
I have fair skin, and light hair- as does my boyfriend- both Leos- and we are by far from hairy.
I have a Libra friend who is Hispanic- She has been waxing and shaving her arms since we were like 12.
I thought this taurus woman was an aries bc she looked like one. She was a taurus but her rising sign was Aries.
My question - that I've asked on here before in other threads - is that how come Libra rising is the most common in the Northern Hemisphere and yet Libra Rising is stereotypically associated with being the most beautiful?
The numbers just do not add up.
And it's so dangerous to be pushing forward an agenda with not enough evidence behind it. If someone comes to you and asks "I have a Libra Rising and I cut myself on the regular because I feel I'm just obese and ignored by everyone" what are you going to offer them as astrology advice? We cannot just selectively apply where astrology works and where it doesn't, and just ignore the damage it can do to people's mindset.
You definitely need evidence at some point to back up external/social influences. A minimum number would be 200 imo. A good sample would be 1000-2000.
There are only three patterns that have survived a big enough sample of 2000 people interviewed. I remember one of them was people in Mars in 1st having red hair. I always forget the other two.
But that's it... three trends have help up over a big enough sample..... in the entire history of astrology.click to expand
Drake is a great example of a Leo rising with thick brows or just being hairy in some way. People would poke fun at his eyebrows all the time and still do.
Popular model Cara Delevingne is known for her brows also and whats her sign?... Leo... of course.
Popular model Cara Delevingne is known for her brows also and whats her sign?... Leo... of course.
Here is a photo of Tina Tuner- She is a Leo Rising
Here is a photo Charlize Theron- A Leo
Correlating is fun.
Here is a photo Charlize Theron- A Leo
Correlating is fun.
Posted by tizianiCause catfishes tend to claim they have libra risings.. hence why it seems there are so many...... ?Posted by GoooberI'd say it's possibly one of the big three that have some influence on ageing/looks but I have stopped understanding why anyone (in general) says rising = physical looks.Posted by Skittyid say they correlate. Your rising sign can take a huge affect of your looks too.
I'm still trying to figure out whether things in astrology are accurate or if they correlate.
However- Physical characteristics are based more on ethnicity than the zodiac.
I have fair skin, and light hair- as does my boyfriend- both Leos- and we are by far from hairy.
I have a Libra friend who is Hispanic- She has been waxing and shaving her arms since we were like 12.
I thought this taurus woman was an aries bc she looked like one. She was a taurus but her rising sign was Aries.
My question - that I've asked on here before in other threads - is that how come Libra rising is the most common in the Northern Hemisphere and yet Libra Rising is stereotypically associated with being the most beautiful?
The numbers just do not add up.
And it's so dangerous to be pushing forward an agenda with not enough evidence behind it. If someone comes to you and asks "I have a Libra Rising and I cut myself on the regular because I feel I'm just obese and ignored by everyone" what are you going to offer them as astrology advice? We cannot just selectively apply where astrology works and where it doesn't, and just ignore the damage it can do to people's mindset.
You definitely need evidence at some point to back up external/social influences. A minimum number would be 200 imo. A good sample would be 1000-2000.
There are only three patterns that have survived a big enough sample of 2000 people interviewed. I remember one of them was people in Mars in 1st having red hair. I always forget the other two.
But that's it... three trends have help up over a big enough sample..... in the entire history of astrology.click to expand
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Posted by GoooberFor some reason, Cara Delevingne looks like a young Brooke Sheilds....why is that—
Drake is a great example of a Leo rising with thick brows or just being hairy in some way. People would poke fun at his eyebrows all the time and still do.
Popular model Cara Delevingne is known for her brows also and whats her sign?... Leo... of course.
Brooke sheilds was known for her brows too in her hey dey modeling/acting.
oh wow, Brooke is virgo dominant. so is Cara...
wait... Cara has Gemini mars....
Brooke Sheilds is Gemini sun/stellium actually.
Cara has gemini mars trine her aqua moon.
Brooke Sheilds is Gemini sun/stellium actually.
Cara has gemini mars trine her aqua moon.
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