Sign of the best fighters

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@Hard McBastard
20 YearsTaurus

If the topic is about physical fighting, then I would refrain from placing Aries anywhere near the top for "best". From my experience, Aries is among the first to lose their head and in the process get hit in said head by someone which remained calm. πŸ˜›

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@Virgoat
19 YearsVirgo

I actually know this one quiet well.

The best sun sign fighters:
Aries
Gemini
Saggitarius
Capricorn

The best chinese zodiac fighters:
Rat
Ox
Dragon
Horse

Now you will not beleive me, but some of the best fighters of all time, that were such inavators were... goats! But it seems to be only sagg/goats. Morihei Ueshiba, the founder and inventor of Aikido, a martial art style with only grabs and joint locks was one. And Chia Hui Liu was a sagg/goat, he was a famous martial artist who was amazing at kung fu and 5 animal style . He was an acotr also, and was in kill bill volume 2 (as pai mai), and many many old foreign martial arts movies.

Keep in mind that some of the sun signs are useless unless they have a good chinese zodiac signs backing them up, and vise versa. I think that the chinese zodiac sign is what's MOST important here.

Famous fighters:

Hoice Gracy (longest lasting and best UFC fighter ever, most wins)- sagg/horse
Bruce Lee (If you dont know him, then you shouldnt be reading this :])- sagg/dragon
Jackie Chan (actor, and great martialartist)- aries/dragon
Muhammad Ali (greatest boxer of all time)- cap/horse
George Forman (amazing boxer, not as good as ali, because he lost to him)- cap/ox
Chai Hui Liu, and Morihei Ueshib (I mentioned above)- sagg/goats

Saggitarius and Capricorn, Horse and Dragon seem to be the BEST.

Hope I didnt tire anyone out πŸ™‚

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@Virgoat
19 YearsVirgo

I actually know this one quiet well.

The best sun sign fighters:
Aries
Gemini
Saggitarius
Capricorn

The best chinese zodiac fighters:
Rat
Ox
Dragon
Horse

Now you will not beleive me, but some of the best fighters of all time, that were such inavators were... goats! But it seems to be only sagg/goats. Morihei Ueshiba, the founder and inventor of Aikido, a martial art style with only grabs and joint locks was one. And Chia Hui Liu was a sagg/goat, he was a famous martial artist who was amazing at kung fu and 5 animal style . He was an acotr also, and was in kill bill volume 2 (as pai mai), and many many old foreign martial arts movies.

Keep in mind that some of the sun signs are useless unless they have a good chinese zodiac signs backing them up, and vise versa. I think that the chinese zodiac sign is what's MOST important here.

Famous fighters:

Hoice Gracy (longest lasting and best UFC fighter ever, most wins)- sagg/horse
Bruce Lee (If you dont know him, then you shouldnt be reading this :])- sagg/dragon
Jackie Chan (actor, and great martialartist)- aries/dragon
Muhammad Ali (greatest boxer of all time)- cap/horse
George Forman (amazing boxer, not as good as ali, because he lost to him)- cap/ox
Chai Hui Liu, and Morihei Ueshib (I mentioned above)- sagg/goats

Saggitarius and Capricorn, Horse and Dragon seem to be the BEST.

Hope I didnt tire anyone out πŸ™‚

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@tall dark and aries
20 Years1,000+ PostsAries

Libra, Saggitarius, Aries, and Cancer come to mind.

Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin (he only lost to Anderson Silva because he was sick before his fight) and Fedor Emilienenko are Libras. They all are great all around.

Chuck Liddel is a Sag, and he has hands and kicks like no freaking tommorow, not to mention he's impossible to get to the ground. He can hit you from a bunch of different angles that you won't see coming. He's also a nice guy outside of the ring like the typical Saggitarius.

Vitor Belfort might have better hands than Liddel, they're at least faster. Simply amazine speed. Phil Baroni is pretty damn good with his hands and submissions now that he's with Pride, despite his lackluster record in the UFC. Anderson Silva is an Aries too and he seems beastly. Woot! Stephan Bonnar gets an honorable mention due to his always exciting fights win or lose, namely against Forrest Griffin. I suspect that the only reason he lost to Rashad Evans and Forrest Griffin (2nd time, the first was a dead draw to me) was because his BJJ trainer, Carlson Gracie, died recently.

Cancer: Tito Ortiz, with his awesome ground and pound, cardio, and wrestling. Wanderlay Silva. What the hell needs to be said about him that you don't already know? He's a God damned maniac! Fighting him is like fighting a bullet train. They don't call him the Axe Murderer for nothing.

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@purrrfect
20 Years1,000+ Posts

Meow provoked huh?

And I can be. Really.

Heh. Sorry about that. When I hear bitches I naturally assume someone is talking about women.

And nope. He hasn't asked. That was a thank you on behalf of me. I can only speak for myself.

btw. You did say ALL. Right? πŸ˜› Maybe I'm just seeing things.

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@haffo
21 Years5,000+ Posts

Heh. Sorry about that. When I hear bitches I naturally assume someone is talking about women.

Heh. Some men also could be called bitches. Look at Kris. He's an example. And what difference from women does he have?

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@purrrfect
20 Years1,000+ Posts

Nope. I'll never beleive it πŸ™‚

You're wrong you're wrong you're wrong.

And if you think about it the majority is usually wrong anyway. All I see is a bunch of followers lol

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@RainingPeanuts
20 Years500+ Posts

Oh and me forgots... the TaUrUs Pierre pounded Matt Hughes ass! Thought I'd look Pierre up and his b-day is May 19th =D

I was going for Matt but knowing this guys is Taurus makes me feel better ahahhahah oooh and he's a hottie lol

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@tall dark and aries
20 Years1,000+ PostsAries

Message posted by: MercInAries on 11/20/2006 12:42:53 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.37
"Taurus is the best last resort fighter.
We are all calm and cool, but when pushed, its your ass.
hands down."

Georges St. Pierre is a Taurus and really put the spurs to Matt Hughes. He whooped his ass and took his title. I'm glad Hughes lost, he's a douchebag who needed some humbling.

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@tall dark and aries
20 Years1,000+ PostsAries

Message posted by: RainingPeanuts on 11/22/2006 4:33:26 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.42
"Rich Franklin (he only lost to Anderson Silva because he was sick before his fight)"

"-Way to clear up your sinuses hehehehe"

Try diarrhea.

Silva fucked Franklin with his knees. He broke his nose and knocked him out afterwards. I still think Franklin would have stood a chance against him if he weren't sick. Silva is quick as hell with long reach, but Franklin is big as hell for a middleweight, powerful, and good with submissions, as well as being pretty fast himself, just not as fast as Silva.

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@RainingPeanuts
20 Years500+ Posts

And WOW is he a HOTTIE! lol That's the only reason I was going for him when he fought Randleman the monsterrrrrrr hahaha I was kinda worried though but yay I won hah

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"Gracie was past his prime though."

- Yup and UFC is also quite different than it used to be. He didn't have that chance to tire him out. Either way still sucked, I don't know why but I just don't like Hughes face! It irritates me to look at him lol

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@giresun27
20 YearsScorpio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauricio_Rua

Shogun greatest skill is his aggresiveness. When other fighters are resting or biding time, Shogun never lets up his attack. He's always working... kicks, knees, stomps, ground position. When he fights, you can see his opponent thinking, "Does this kid ever
slow down?"

Shoguns the fucking man

Shogun is my favorite fighter today and i think hes the best 205lb in the world but to say he will stop FEDOR is jumping the gun a little. I would love to see Shogun beat Fedor but man that would be hard to do but if it happens WAR SHOGUN

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@fireandearth
19 Years

Iroicly, concidering that aries is the warrior sign, alot of MMA champions and belt holders are libra! The most profiled like Matt Hughes in ufc has held the belt for six years and Pride Fightings fedor emilianenko has only lost one fight with over 30 wins and is undefeated champion in the Pride fighting organization. Talk about though fighters. Allthough they're not the typical metrosexual femme libra boiz I know. Not hating on libras. You just look gayand really femenine, thats all. Not that tehere's anything wrong with that...

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@SamSamSam
18 Years

As a UFC fan this is an intriging topic.

In terms of MMA and going by the inside MMA rankings:

145lbs

1 Urijah Faber - Taurus
2 Akitoshi Tamura - Gemini
3 Takeshi Inoue - Pisces
4 Masakazu Imanari - Aquarius
5 Jens Pulver - Sagittarius
6 Jeff Curran - Virgo
7 Norifumi Yamamoto - Pisces
8 Antonio Carvalho - Gemini
9 Hatsu Hioki - Cancer
10 Yoshiro Maeda - Scorpio

155lbs

1 BJ Penn - Sagittarius
2 Takanori Gomi - Virgo
3 Gesias Calvancanti - Cancer
4 Sean Sherk - Leo
5 Hayato Sakurai - Virgo
6 Tatsuya Kawajiri - Taurus
7 Gilbert Melendez - Aries
8 Mitsuhiro Ishida - Capricorn
9 Shinya Aoki - Taurus
10 Vitor Ribeiro - Pisces

170lbs
1 Georges St. Pierre - Taurus
2 Matt Serra - Gemini
3 Matt Hughes - Libra
4 Jon Fitch - Pisces
5 Josh Koscheck - Sagittarius
6 Jake Shields - Capricorn
7 Karo Parisyan - Virgo
8 Carlos Condit - Taurus
9 Diego Sanchez - Capricorn
10 Marcus Davis - Virgo

185lbs

1 Anderson Silva - Aries
2 Dan Henderson - Virgo
3 Paulo Filho - Gemini
4 Matt Lindland - Taurus
5 Rich Franklin - Libra
6 Robbie Lawler - Pisces
7 Nathan Marquardt - Aries
8 Yushin Okami - Cancer
9 Denis Kang - Virgo
10 Frank Trigg - Taurus

205lbs

1 Quinton Jackson - Gemini
2 Chuck Liddell - Sagittarius

4 Forrest Griffin - Cancer
5 Keith Jardine - Scorpio
6 Lyoto Machida - Gemini
7 Mauricio Rua - Sagittarius
8 Wanderlei Silva - Cancer
9 Rashad Evans - Libra
10 Thiago Silva - Scorpio

205lbs+
1 Fedor Emelianenko - Libra
2 Randy Couture - Cancer
3 Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera - Gemini
4 Tim Sylvia - Pisces
5 Fabricio Werdum - Leo
6 Josh Barnett - Scorpio
7 Andrei Arlovski - Aquirius
8 Gabriel Gonzaga - Taurus
9 Cheick Kongo - Taurus
10 Ben Rothwell - Libra

It's very subjective, a lot of the fighters haven't fought each other and there is quite some talent that might very well be better than some in this list. But it's just for fun.

Count per sign

Taurus - 9
Gemini - 7
Virgo - 7
Cancer - 6
Pisces - 6
Libra - 5
Sagittarius - 5
Scorpio - 4
Aries - 3
Capricorn - 3
Leo - 2
Aquarius - 2

Count per element

Earth - 18
Water - 16
Air - 14
Fire - 10

Count per quality
Cardinal - 17
Fixed - 17
Mutable - 25

P.S. This forum really needs an EDIT option. πŸ˜„

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@nicodemus
19 Years1,000+ PostsLibra

I think it is the Libra's natural traits of reading people and situations that helps them in this enviroment. Caring works both ways.

I have been a martial artist for about 15 years now and in my experience the signs that are naturally good fighters are Libra, Gemini, Aquarius, Taurus, Sagittarius and some Capricorns.

Why all the air signs? We don't like confrontation, we don't like personal attack. If you dislike something strongly, you tend to have a preoccupations with overcoming it. Also, calmness.

Other martial artists I have faught in which I admittedly thought I was going to lose to but didn't were Leo, Scorpio and Aries. They were more intimidating than capable. Leo and Aries lose their head and charge. Scorpio does a combination of this and underestimating their opponent. They do have tenacity but usually lose the upper hand after being overly aggressive in the beginning.

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@LegioXHispanica
18 Years

I think it's cancer

-Ernesto Hoost
-Tyson
-Wanderlei Silva

Libra

-Fedor Emelianenko
-Holyfield

Scorpio

-Peter Aerts
-Semmy Schilt

And Capricon

-Jerome LeBanner
-Muhammad Ali

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@tall dark and aries
20 Years1,000+ PostsAries

^^ Mark Hunt is awesome. I've seen him get punched in the head until he had a retarded look on his face but he shook it off still standing a second or so later. Almost impossible to knock out.

Houston Alexander is another Aries fighter that's exciting at least. The problem with him though is that he's reckless and acts before waiting to see how things pan out, which is what caused him to get knocked out so quickly by the Virgo James Irvin, although I think Houston could've kept fighting despite getting dropped. Here's a video if you all are interested: http://www.mmalinker.com/xfighters.php?name=Houston+Alexander&vidid=4577&vidt=i

As apparent in the above video: Alexander seems to have to be hurt a little bit before he really starts fighting: http://www.mmalinker.com/xfighters.php?name=Houston+Alexander&vidid=4727&vidt=i

Also, Anderson Silva is moving up to the UFC's light heavyweight division to fight James Irvin, and all I know is that Irvin better stop Anderson in his tracks if he doesn't want the LHW division to get utterly torn up.

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@tall dark and aries
20 Years1,000+ PostsAries

Silva trains at the Chute Boxe academy, and they turn out utterly impressive fighters despite their sign, Silva just happens to be an Aries. He certainly acts like an Aries after a victory though, with all the yelling, running, and jumping around in a frenzy, taking his mouth piece out and throwing it into the ground, and generally acting like a hyper agressive caveman, lol.

BTW Chocolate, was the MMA event you went to a pro or amateur one? Also, how do you get your nose broken in a submission hold? I went to an MMA evenr in the past and it was decent, worth the price at least, saw a few good fights, mostly grappeling and wrestling, a few stand up fights. During one of the fights one guy got knocked out, stayed down, and some paramedics brought in a stretcher. The crowd booed, and the guy must've been embarassed because he got up before so he would'nt be carried off.

Also, when I was in the restroom at the urinal, one guy came in and said "anybody want this beer?" The dude next to me raised his hand, but I was done, so I just went up to him and said "I'll take it," took it, then washed my hands and left. You snooze you lose bro.

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