When your birth chart just doesn't add up...

So I am convinced that the hospital has fucked my birth certificate up because I for a few years now I have been looking into my chart and aside from my sun and moon, I don't feel very connected to my other placements. I have Aquarius in mars and venus and my approach to life and LOVE (more specifically) are totally different than the aloof, detached, afraid of commitment aqua in mars and venus. According to my chart, my dominant planet is Saturn in Aquarius. I don't relate to that at all.

So I am wondering does anyone else feel completely disconnected to the other aspects in their chart like me?

I don't identify with my birth chart either.

Investigate your Vedic Chart. (Choose Sidereal ==> Hindu/Lahirir on astro.com & whole signs for the house system). KRS channel is very friendly for beginners and he has tons of YouTube videos).

Vedic Astrology actually places more importance on our Moon and Ascendant sign (which, along with every other planet, are usually different to our Western Chart) as the Sun is considered our divine ego which we're removed from in this life. The ascendant is believed to map out your whole life. I'm a Scorpio rising in Westerm Astrology which kind of fits, but in Vedic, I'm a Libra Rising, which fits very well, especially when I read about it in the context of Vedic Astrology, where the ascendant maps out one's whole life.

Things are deepened even more by dividing each sign into "nakshatras" (3 in every sign) and "padas" (4 in every nakshatra) - kind of like a sign within a sign within a sign; Vedic astrologers use this to explain why certain signs don't behave like others belonging to the same sign (E.G., two people are Aries, but have different nakshatras, or, two people are Aries AND have the same Nakshatra, but have a different Padas).

Every planet occupies a nakshatra and a pada, so even if your Sun, Moon and Rising are the same as someone else's your other planets will likely differ. They even have extra charts for specific areas of life (marriage, career) and charts that help to differentiate twins.

Beware: Vedic Astrology does not use Uranus, Neptune or Pluto, so it can be quite a paradigm shift for the uninitiated, but I'd recommend studying it - especially with user-friendly teachers like KRS.

All of this could be right up your alley. Check it out if you haven't already.

My southern hemisphere chart doesn't change my sign or asc. but places the Sun and Mer in my 1st house breaking up a 4 planet stellium in the 12th. I never felt that was 100% accurate for me so I understand what you mean.

I'm guessing moon conjunct mercury.

Posted by malloryor
So I am convinced that the hospital has fucked my birth certificate up because I for a few years now I have been looking into my chart and aside from my sun and moon, I don't feel very connected to my other placements. I have Aquarius in mars and venus and my approach to life and LOVE (more specifically) are totally different than the aloof, detached, afraid of commitment aqua in mars and venus. According to my chart, my dominant planet is Saturn in Aquarius. I don't relate to that at all.

So I am wondering does anyone else feel completely disconnected to the other aspects in their chart like me?

wow.

you also have Saturn in aquarius along with Aqua Venus AND mars??

that's a stellium.

well, what house is it in??

I mean Sarah palin's a big stellium in Aquarius, and she still married at a young age, and still with him so she's NOT afraid of commitment.

she even has moon in aquarius but it's in 4th house. And her venus is in 6th. Her sun is in 5th house cusp. but she is a dominant 4th houser.




EDIT - more importantly, are you with someone NOW?? If you are with someone, then you are obviously committed.

or are you planning to be with someone in the near future??

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by malloryor
So I am convinced that the hospital has fucked my birth certificate up because I for a few years now I have been looking into my chart and aside from my sun and moon, I don't feel very connected to my other placements. I have Aquarius in mars and venus and my approach to life and LOVE (more specifically) are totally different than the aloof, detached, afraid of commitment aqua in mars and venus. According to my chart, my dominant planet is Saturn in Aquarius. I don't relate to that at all.

So I am wondering does anyone else feel completely disconnected to the other aspects in their chart like me?

wow.

you also have Saturn in aquarius along with Aqua Venus AND mars??

that's a stellium.

well, what house is it in??

I mean Sarah palin's a big stellium in Aquarius, and she still married at a young age, and still with him so she's NOT afraid of commitment.

she even has moon in aquarius but it's in 4th house. And her venus is in 6th. Her sun is in 5th house cusp. but she is a dominant 4th houser.




EDIT - more importantly, are you with someone NOW?? If you are with someone, then you are obviously committed.

or are you planning to be with someone in the near future??

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A driven Aquarius mars is basically an intellectual and more charming Aries.

Posted by Jahlia

Posted by malloryor
So I am convinced that the hospital has fucked my birth certificate up because I for a few years now I have been looking into my chart and aside from my sun and moon, I don't feel very connected to my other placements. I have Aquarius in mars and venus and my approach to life and LOVE (more specifically) are totally different than the aloof, detached, afraid of commitment aqua in mars and venus. According to my chart, my dominant planet is Saturn in Aquarius. I don't relate to that at all.

So I am wondering does anyone else feel completely disconnected to the other aspects in their chart like me?

Can you post your chart? I'm thinking aspects

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Okay here is my birth chart. I'm not very good at reading charts, as much as I have tried, so I mostly read up on the planets in certain houses and their signs. So perhaps that is where my lack of understanding comes from.

Posted by xyIrising
I felt that way before..

but the universe doesn't make any mistake..it's an artist, a scientist.. it just goes

there is an aspect in your chart that may make you feel disconnected or an uncomfortable energy

I agree. It isn't me per say questioning the universe as it me seriously wondering if my birth time on my birth certificate is wrong haha. But like I said in my last post, I don't really understand birth chart reading (as much as I try), so I have pretty much only read up on what planets in houses and their subsequent sign represent. I know I haven't dug nearly deep enough so maybe that is why I have yet to find my answer.

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by malloryor
So I am convinced that the hospital has fucked my birth certificate up because I for a few years now I have been looking into my chart and aside from my sun and moon, I don't feel very connected to my other placements. I have Aquarius in mars and venus and my approach to life and LOVE (more specifically) are totally different than the aloof, detached, afraid of commitment aqua in mars and venus. According to my chart, my dominant planet is Saturn in Aquarius. I don't relate to that at all.

So I am wondering does anyone else feel completely disconnected to the other aspects in their chart like me?

wow.

you also have Saturn in aquarius along with Aqua Venus AND mars??

that's a stellium.

well, what house is it in??

I mean Sarah palin's a big stellium in Aquarius, and she still married at a young age, and still with him so she's NOT afraid of commitment.

she even has moon in aquarius but it's in 4th house. And her venus is in 6th. Her sun is in 5th house cusp. but she is a dominant 4th houser.




EDIT - more importantly, are you with someone NOW?? If you are with someone, then you are obviously committed.

or are you planning to be with someone in the near future??

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Saturn is in my 7th house.

Glad you mentioned the stellium, I have read of stelliums but the explanations have always been too complex for me to understand and use to help me analyze my chart. I am going to go and try to find a good definition on Saturn Stelliums. I am convinced Saturn is the reason my life in terms of relationships sucks. I'm friendly, outgoing, loyal and have no problem talking and meeting people, but then they never stay around for too long, or I end up feeling taken advantage of. It's Saturn lmao I am sure of it!

As for love... no, no love for me yet. I crave that sort of connection with someone but it hasn't not happened just yet...but my Pisces intuition tells me it is coming and I can literally feel the love vibrations floating my way ( a feeling I don't feel all the time, unless I am about to meet someone). So no, I am not opposed to commitment. This is further proven by the fact that my longest relationship was 4 years. I'm big on marriage, don't like casual sex and hook-ups, I just don't connect to the love aspects of an individual with an Aquarius in venus.

Posted by STARPISCESWAR
Sun in Pisces, Moon in Aries The combination of your Sun sign and your Moon sign produces an inner nature that differs greatly from the outer orprojected personality. Its hard to strike a balance between a sense of inward peace, and reactions that are quite impulsive, active and even aggressive. There is a blending of emotional sensitivity, adaptability and understanding that is Pisces, with the high spirit and independence of Aries. With this there is generally a strong urge for personal advancement, fame or at least recognition, but you may need greater confidence and inward incentive to realize these desires. You may possess considerable ability for personal expression if you can just make the decision to go after it. Your strength lies in your natural love of knowledge and your urge to always be well-informed. You are also very self-reliant; showing keen mental ability, the ability to think for yourself. Its important for you to avoid extremes in your life, understanding the value of moderation andself-control. You should not neglect your need to find a peaceful world and a calm approach to problems, despite natural tendencies to overdo and be rather hard-driving. In many ways you seem to be very assertive, competitive and determined, but in actual fact, you are not really as positive and sure of yourself as you appear. In some ways there is a good bit of bluff in your personality. You put a lot of romance and feeling into everything you do, expressing much enthusiasm with a most purposeful approach to life. Yours is an unusual combination in that it possesses a rare capacity for depth of feeling, imagination and vision, while it also features so much personal assertiveness and and a powerful demand for independence. https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/astrology-houses/your-venus-in-which-house-3064822/ https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/astrology-houses/your-mars-in-which-house-3064826/ @malloryor You must know exact your birth time but if you didn't know then it's ok ! 😉 Your Sun, MooN, Venus, Mars Are in which house thats main thing, if you didn't know that then you have read all houses from 1 to 12 and ask yourself which is more accurate for you ! 😎 For example I Gotta SAG Mars in 1st House 😈 and If another person also gotta SAG Mars But In 4th House Then Me and That 4TH House Person Gonna be different in nature ! 😉 Also Sun Signs most important 😏 e.g. I'm Pisces Sun and Sag Mars In 1st House and Another Person Is Leo Sun with Sag Mars In 1st House we maybe have some similarities but just bcoz of our Sun Signs we gonna be different ! 😉 ^ I Hope U Understandg ! 🙂 In The End Every One Is Unique & Every One Is Special, Always Be Proud To Be A Pisces ! 😏

You have captured my Pisces/Aries nature perfectly! Everything described is me, except I am only impulsive in love (trustin

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Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by malloryor
So I am convinced that the hospital has fucked my birth certificate up because I for a few years now I have been looking into my chart and aside from my sun and moon, I don't feel very connected to my other placements. I have Aquarius in mars and venus and my approach to life and LOVE (more specifically) are totally different than the aloof, detached, afraid of commitment aqua in mars and venus. According to my chart, my dominant planet is Saturn in Aquarius. I don't relate to that at all.

So I am wondering does anyone else feel completely disconnected to the other aspects in their chart like me?

wow.

you also have Saturn in aquarius along with Aqua Venus AND mars??

that's a stellium.

well, what house is it in??

I mean Sarah palin's a big stellium in Aquarius, and she still married at a young age, and still with him so she's NOT afraid of commitment.

she even has moon in aquarius but it's in 4th house. And her venus is in 6th. Her sun is in 5th house cusp. but she is a dominant 4th houser.




EDIT - more importantly, are you with someone NOW?? If you are with someone, then you are obviously committed.

or are you planning to be with someone in the near future??

Saturn is in my 7th house.

Glad you mentioned the stellium, I have read of stelliums but the explanations have always been too complex for me to understand and use to help me analyze my chart. I am going to go and try to find a good definition on Saturn Stelliums. I am convinced Saturn is the reason my life in terms of relationships sucks. I'm friendly, outgoing, loyal and have no problem talking and meeting people, but then they never stay around for too long, or I end up feeling taken advantage of. It's Saturn lmao I am sure of it!

As for love... no, no love for me yet. I crave that sort of connection with someone but it hasn't not happened just yet...but my Pisces intuition tells me it is coming and I can literally feel the love vibrations floating my way ( a feeling I don't feel all the time, unless I am about to meet someone). So no, I am not opposed to commitment. This is further proven by the fact that my longest relationship was 4 years. I'm big on marriage, don't like casual sex and hook-ups, I just don't connect to the love aspects of an individual with an Aquarius in venus.

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really on Saturn 7th house??

I mean, its on this website that there's you and I think a couple others who have Saturn 7th and they have bad luck in relationships. or can't find that person? Saturn sounds like it sucks for relationshps. 😢

Posted by lisabethur8
I mean, its on this website that there's you and I think a couple others who have Saturn 7th and they have bad luck in relationships. or can't find that person? Saturn sounds like it sucks for relationshps. 😢

Yeah saturn is bullshit. Fuck Saturn lmaooo
Now I want to go and cry hahaha

here's a good website for 7th house Saturn.

it says that people with this placement/house don't feel lovable.

which contributes ALOT.

http://www.leahwhitehorse.com/2014/08/11/natal-chart-saturn-7th-house/

Sometimes this placement can generate a fear that you just aren’t loveable enough or good enough to be with someone else resulting in loneliness and isolation. Issues around partners and even open enemies may test your limits. Occasionally some natives with this placement attract partners who are overly strict or limit their freedom in some way either through personality or through health issues. Often this is a manifestation of the subject’s own fears being played out through another. Sometimes, depending on other aspects


have you been with men who control you?

I was curious of 7th house Saturn more, so here's another good site for some more insight: for 7th house the descriptions are BIGGER, while the other Saturn in houses are just general....and then there's 7th house, it seems to be very difficult for people

https://astrolibrary.org/interpretations/saturn-house/



If you have Saturn in the 7th House, there may be the tendency to attract older, more serious partners. Partnerships may involve much duty, responsibility and hard work. There may be a karmic tie from the past to the partners in this life. Whatever the case, there may be a feeling of restriction, bondage, depression and anxiety in your relationships. They certainly can be enduring, though.

Saturn here indicates you need to learn to cooperate with and to develop empathy for others. You are perhaps cautious about marriage, but, when committed, may find it very difficult to leave your marriage partner, even if you are unhappy. You may marry for security rather than love. Discipline is needed in relationships.

There may be a very self-controlled and sometimes calculating attitude towards all forms of partnership. You are inclined to seek a partner who will awaken your sense of responsibility and give you a greater sense of purpose and will to succeed. For a woman there may be a subconscious desire to marry a "father figure" and the partner may well feel an urge to organize your life on a more effective basis.

The responsibilities of marriage or the fear of marriage may delay marriage. If Saturn is well aspected in your natal chart, then this position usually indicates that one loyally abides by marriage vows and faithfully carries out marital duties. With a well placed and well aspected natal Saturn, the partner is likely to be a person of integrity, faithful, steady, reliable, industrious, persevering and economical, perhaps not over-demonstrative and preferring deeds to words, and providing a real anchor for the partnership.

If natal Saturn is badly aspected, then there is a tendency to endure an unhappy marriage rather than to lose face by breaking up. If you neglect to make your partner happy, your own happiness will be affected in the same proportion. This position can also mean a second choice marriage, which endures in spite of boredom, unhappiness and a lack of love. In other words you may have wanted to marry someone else but settled on a second choice instead. The partner may act in such a way as to become a burden, and may be uncommunicative, narrow in outlook, cold, and over-critical. In some cases the spouse may be much loved, but prone to ill health. Marriage to a widow or widower is possible

Posted by lisabethur8
here's a good website for 7th house Saturn.

it says that people with this placement/house don't feel lovable.

which contributes ALOT.

http://www.leahwhitehorse.com/2014/08/11/natal-chart-saturn-7th-house/

Sometimes this placement can generate a fear that you just aren’t loveable enough or good enough to be with someone else resulting in loneliness and isolation.


have you been with men who control you?

Oh wow this really hits home. I often do feel like that but I think it is more of a reflection of my upbringing than anything else and I never push people away. So if a relationship (friendship or love), I just feel abandoned.

No, not controlling (abusive). I had to grow up pretty fast and have always been independent, so I admit, I do like allowing my bf to take the lead. Not abusive, "you cant do or say or go anywhere i dont approve of" control, but the type where I rely on their expertise, their advice.

It's nice to not have think so much because i usually always only have me to bounce things off of.

@Op - Yeah it's complex because in Vedic I have Scorpio in Mars, Mercury and Venus, still have aqua moon and even my Sun sign changed. So right there it would be water and air, in my case hurricane of emotions when I become physically attracted to someone very quickly.

Even in draconian chart it is Capricorn and Libra moon

In Western it is fixed stellium across. ..so go figure it's complex and I don't understand but I understand western, numerology, and Chinese zodiac better. It matches my life conquests I endeared over time.