Are You Shallow?

What if you met someone who you were immediately attracted to, had all the qualities you were looking for in a partner - he/she was beautiful, sweet, intelligent, charming, great personality, but then . . .

He/she had smelly feet, or
B.O., or
Bad breath, would you not pursue that person

Most people who have body odors can't control their problem. Yet, otherwise, you adore them, would you turn away, or still want to date them? How shallow are you, really?

So I must admit - I'm a bit leary to leave a message here considering the question asked. I guess the answer is yes, I'm shallow.

Bad Breath and B.O. are huge turn offs, stinky feet I could live with (I lived with my dad and brother for many years!)

I think that if I had just met someone and any of the above applied I would just hope it was a one time issue and not write that person off right away. If the Bad breath/B.O. persisted, then yes I guess I'm shallow and I wouldn't date them. My bold ass would probably tell them about themselves, but that must come from my Sag rising.

However I'm not so shallow that I would leave a man over the problem after having been with and loved that person for years. I just wouldn't begin with those "traits."

I guess I'm a shallow cancer and I better go back into my shell now - before the wrath of the messages to come! Don't crabs live in "shallow" water?

clvzl!

I worked with a dear man once who had BO. We talked about it a lot, once the topic came out into the open and he knew he could talk about it to me. He tried everything, every deodorant, powders, he went to doctors - it just wouldn't go away and it was pretty bad. I know from the place I worded with him and listening to the supervisors talk behind his back that it stopped him from promotions and he was pretty good at his job and deserved a lot more.

If we had both been single at the time, it's possible that I would have gotten closer to him relationship wise. Can't say exactly what I would have done.

I'd like to think that I'm not so shallow, but you never know what you'd do in the future. I guess it's like you said, it would depend on the circumstances and how deeply your feelings go for the person.

Hmmmm...I don't really see this as being shallow - personally I view it as I am not really that interested in that person. Love is love and NOTHING can keep one away from someone he TRULY loves - those things will not matter and they can be delt with. If you walk away from someone who has badbreath, BO, smelly feet then I think those reasons are just an excuse for your true feelings of not really being interested.

Love is blind....😉 I also do understand that one does not love someone when they first meet him but again, if one is TRULY interested...nothing can stop that person.

I'd give them deoderant or a stick of gum,the smelly feet thing is common though and can be solved by increasing your onion and garlic intake.

But yeah I am shallow in terms of the bo and teeth,I stopped dating a friend hookup because the dudes teeth looked like they hadn't been brushed in ten years.That=lazy to me it only takes two minutes.

I can't remember a time that I ever turned away from someone because of a problem they had and hide behind that excuse "I'm not really interested in that person". That's just a justification for being shallow. The question in the post says that otherwise, this person would be your perfect partner and you adore them.

Sometimes, I think that stuff happens in your life for a reason. Maybe your perfect person, your 'soulmate' is going to have an undesireable trait on purpose, because you are shallow. I don't know, not pointing fingers here, just thinking out loud.

I knew one man who's feet were so bad that he had to take his shoes off outside before he come in and the stink followed him in the door. But, he was so sweet, had a wonderful family who overlooked this in him. He couldn't help it. It's not like the case above for Tiamat where the guy didn't brush his teeth. I mean, this man tried to solve his feet problem, but it was persistant. I really admire my friend - she saw qualities in this man (obviously she knew about his feet the first time they got naked together) that were worth pursueing, she understood that he couldn't help it and loved him anyway. I think that's great! We all have handicaps in some form or another. Some people pimples all over their bums, or boils, some scars on their face because of acne, some people have been burnt and are scarred, some people lose their hair and are bald (even women), some people . . . the list could go on forever. Don't all these people deserved to be loved, eventhough they have an issue that they can't help?

I consider BO and bad breadth as a medical condition which can be corrected. So if my partner is willing to do that, Fine. If he doesn't I would think he is inconsiderate. Bad breadth is definitely a turn off. No, I that doesn't make me shallow just hygiene conscious.

BTW some people sweat a lot , naturally. That is fine by me.Infact it could be damn sexy.

I'd wait for a b-day or x-mas or 2week anniversary. ANYTHING, & buy them a basket of cologne, deodarant, gum, whatever. He'll figure it out. If not, well, yes I'd be shallow after that too. That's just incosidarate of him then.

I'm not talking about people not taking care of themselves and being inconsiderate. I'm talking about when people have this problem and can't make it go away, like the man I worked with who had B.O. He tried, his whole life, but nothing worked - it was a handicap - not just refusing to wear deodorant. How can he be faulted for that?

I hate funkiness....I despise..it ....cause if nothing else.....I stay so "Fresh and so Clean"......"I love it when u stare at me...cause I Know I'm So Fresh and So Clean""

Yes I understand it is a chronic condition with some people. Same way there are some people who are born with intolerance towards bad odour. That is not shallowness. In my case strong BO and sweat mixed with perfume can trigger off severe headache and acidity.

I can be friendly with a person with BO. Some of my patients had had BO. I never got offended. After all there is at any given time atleast 1" distance between us. Infact that is the reason I never took up medicine and settled down to being a psychologist (and avoided close proximity with strong odors).But I wouldn't have a lover with a BO.

P-angel that co-worker that you are talking about. He should wear clothes made with natural fibre.Just cottons. There are unshrinkable cotton wear available.During winters-only woollens. Any sweat accumulation worsens the condition. A wash with water mixed with boric powder or rock salt 3-4 times a day is very helpful. NO PERFUMES. Even mildest ones. If he loves fragrance he can just rub a drop of lavender essential oil under his wrist. Burning candles with essential oil fragrance is a big help.Cut out red meats, cheese and fish. Drink lots of pineapple juice.

Remember if a person has such BO that a person being at a distance of 1 foot of him gets bothered, then his habits have to be looked into.

I'm not sure of everything that he tried, exactly. He just said, he tried everything. Actually, he was quite fortunate because he had a wonderful lady who cherished him, no matter what. I felt bad for him, though, because he wasn't able to succeed or advance in his position because of his problem.

Maybe for people like him, and many others, that's why some other people are born with horrible senses of smell. I know a couple people like that. The odour can be really pungent, like sour milk, and even some chemicals - but, they can't smell it. Then others can smell stuff from across the room. So, these people need to find others who can't smell them very well - all will then be happy!

I couldn't do it. My ex had a problem & the attraction & sparks fade very quickly when you don't want to snuggle up close. The problem just grew on me, till we were like just buddies hanging out - at distance! lol

It would be difficult TaurusGoddess. I just feel so sorry for people sometimes. I know it's not my job to feel sorry for every unfortunate person in the world, but I can't help it most of the time.

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You stinky you get no love from me!

Cancerlady

"Water signs make terrible lovers, cowards of commitment, flighty as a B-52, and their judgement is a weak as an anerexic in the wilderness."

You are the most BITTER person I have EVER KNOWN! Then again if I looked like you I would be too...I am so sick of you getting on here spewing hatred...Feelings are just as real as facts you idiot and if you don't believe that YOU are living in a fake reality! What a pompus arrogant jerk! Logic is nothing without emotion. This is why I CANNOT deal with Virgo men...they think they are the end-all to be-all!

For someone who portrays such a horrible image of water signs at any opportunity given you need to look at yourself and really think...We must be doing something right because we keep your attention and intrigue.

Love is NOT blind at all unless you are blind and anyone who lives by that principle is lying to themselves. We all have our personal preferences. And in conclusion, most water signs don't like people with pointy heads so perhaps you don't have much to worry about.

Cancerlady

Besides for somebody who doesn't "Believe" in astrology...you sure do seem to base alot of your stupid generalizations on astrology.

Isn't that a fake world? Is it really logical?

No? Then why the FU*& are you always on here whining about a water sign?

Here's my definitions:

Shallow - only the head in the mouth
Deep - all the way down my throat

P-ANGEL!!! LMFAO

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Now...Brahn0913

Don't let the smooth taste fool ya...I can be very vindictive and while I didn't meet you I know ALOT about you. Don't make me pull your b!tch card!

By the way everyone...don't let this on screen personality fool you! He is nothing like this in real life! Anybody who is scared to come to a party because of a neighborhood that he's never been to but just ASSUMES it is bad isn't anybody to listen to much anyway.

HE is one of those people who creates another person online because the real one is so insecure and lame that he can't stand himself so he criticizes & judges everyone else to make himself feel better.

CL

p-angel that is funny!!

Hey do you think that 19Eleven can give me some free love advise or maybe help me "self hypnotize" myself to get that jack ass out of my head!! Im sooooooo serious! Im curious about this?

as far as odor... WOW what a topic!! love it!!

advice*****

Calling it how you see it? Opinions and disspelling myths..?

Brahn.. this most recent post is at best, hateful.

You'll write a lengthy post about on how Virgos can be creative, and then come to the Cancer board to spit on all water signs with rhetoric. What gives?

At best, it's hypocritical, and goes beyond expressing a mere opinion.... not to mention grossly untrue. Whatever issues you've had in the past with Pisces, Scorpios, or Cancers or.. ANY sign- to say that ALL water signs are "intellectually shallow" is a slap in the face... especially after you stated in the Virgo board, ".. the thing is that a Pisces can be scientific, they can be implementers of systems, or validate them as well. It is not confined to a sign."

So what is your overall goal?

I understand that you don't enjoy sugar coating things, but wrapping your opinions in CRAP doesn't seem any more productive.

I'm sure 19Eleven will help you, she gives good advise. She said she was coming back, but I haven't seen her yet.

The odour thing is something that I thought would make a good conversation piece. Branh thinks that perhaps putting it on the Cancer board was an interesting move. Really, I just put it anywhere, I wasn't really thinking far enough into it to post it in a better place (if there is one). It's gotten alot of feed-back here, really.

Let's all practice now . . . .

shallow . . . deeper . . . . deeper . . . . all the way . . . . com'on you can do it . . . . just a little further . . .

Oh, ughoora arrrraahh!

Hey that is a tonsil back there!

How do you do that again P-Angel?

Now Branh, you're not practicing

Open up . . . wider

Must you make me whip you . . . AGAIN

Bad, bad boy

Oh, it's shallow, dah . . .

I thought it said - swallow

Huh! That's a laugh...

Obviously they weren't too satisfied or else you wouldn't be on here whinig all the time...If you were getting some perhaps you wouldn't be so bitter. And as far as flaws I wrote that because you had no problem telling me Ms. Pisces was fat & ugly but you failed to mention the fact that you are too! Not to mention your pointy head!

Oh and PLEASE don't get on here acting like you are SOOOOO innocent. Since you first came on this board you have been bashing mainly Pisces but all water signs & I'm sick of it.

There never were any hard feelings...you just disgust me. Period.

Cancerlady

Try pulling the dildo or whatever it is he's got stuck up his butt...Perhaps that might work better...Or better yet stick something up there to loosen things up a bit!

Now...where was I...Oh yeah...

P-Angel...Spit or Swallow?

Swallow, definitely

Never, never spit . . . unless . . . .

Imma goin snowballin

Aaawwwwww, that's gross

What's snowballin?

an exchange of cum from one mouth to the other

pretty nasty

Isn't that disgusting?

Yech! You've done that? I can do some freaky stuff but that's too much!

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oh wow.. and ew..

Some men love that crap - I say go suck your own then

"My response goes to CancerKitten, actually. She basically states that her boyfriends ex-Virgo cannot love 1/2 as much as she can. This statement is ridiculous and shallow. First of all, she is only seeing a public display of love and affection, not beind the doors. There is a major difference. Many people have degrees of which way they chose to express themselves. So what, if whatever person may not make sweeping romantic gesture? Can you even begin to know what in that persons heart. Because CancerKitten is only responding to a outwardly display of emotions, this leads me to the statement that Water signs can be a bit shallow. I don't believe Water signs can read people's emotions the way the think they can."

Ok I'm sorry if I said that in response to all virgos and I don't believe that girl was like that because of her sign. Thats just what she was like and I've heard this from her ex-boyfriend too(now my boyfriend) so from his view of what went on behind closed doors she still wasn't emotional enough for him personally.
And I know plenty of couples who aren't all over eachother all the time but theres still something about that them that just shows they're in love so I don't base how much people love eachother on outwardly feelings.

So Brahn0913

If you are justified in saying this as a means of argument...

"Water signs are emotionally deep, but intellectually shallow. The practioners of rhetoric, the students of pet theory. There is not world of facts to these people, there are simply a world of feelings."

Why is she not "allowed" to have her own opinion of one person that she at least remotely knows...even if it is based on feelings.

"I just feel that even if she loves him with everything she has it'll still only be 1/2 of how much he could love her back."

You can have your broad generalized opinion but she isn't allowed to express her feelings? Come the f-on! Then she goes on to say...

"Then again I may be quite biased"

Which is basically saying that is how she FEELS but it may not necessarily be fact. Once again...I'll say you are just bitter and now you are trying to cover it up. Well sorry to tell you but I could list about a hundred negative braod sweeping statements you have consistently made about water signs.

STOP with the nice boy act...At least have the balls to say yeah I'm bitter because my Pisces woman doesn't want me and I'm going to take it out on all water signs. At least might respect you for that.

Besides retard..if I am a water sign and you are making generalizations about water signs how does that not include me?

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Go CL, Go CL

"Of course I am angry and resentful for the past relationship, wouldn't you be."

Hmmmm...Not bitter?

"Virgos are very insecure ( I am one) and protect their emotions without relent."

Are these my words or yours...Hmmm so it seems you think you are insecure too. So my interpretation must not be too off...

"However, I am a Virgo, somewhat insecure, overly logical sometimes, and I have a tendency to be harsh."

Once again...from the http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_ZSYYYYYYYYUS' target='_blank'> mouth

"I am so talkative today because for YEARS I only saw one side of the fence. I thought it was logic that ruled all and it was emotions that were superfluous."

Hmmmm.....seems like you are still on that side of the fence...

"Yes thats right, the so-called caring and compassionate pisces, whom I have put alot of effort and time into has decided that she has "outgrown me"."

Smart girl...

"When I met her she was pretty naive, had a low self esteem, unlikable, irrational, and just plain stupid."

She was OBVIOUSLY doing something right but as soon as she dumped you...here comes the bitterness...

"Personally I am moving on to better things, my personality has gotten better, I am much more relatable now, I know more about life, and my career is looking up."

I hate to see what you were like before her!

"I am a stern critic of people who like a relationship to be beautiful with great sex, romance, and sickening cuddling."

No wonder she left you! I would have too!

"You may find this hard to believe, but I can read a Pisces like a book. I know you think I'm full of it. But REALLY. Maybe its that special Virgo and Pisces bond."

I thought you said these bonds were unreal...So Virgo/Pisces can have a bond but Cancer/Pisces cannot?

"Also Haffo, I have not made any judgements about there members of this board in none of my post. Ever. Read all of my post and you will not see one."

I'm not even going to TOUCH this one...but I don't think I have to. Most people know already.

"Pisces either indulge into what I would consider the most obviously non productive relationships I have ever seen."
"Pisceans overvalue people!"



I could go on but I actually have to do some work, but I will be back...I am in vindictive mode!


Cancerlady

Boy I can't go on...I'm tired of reading all those boring @ss, long @ss, ridiculous @ss posts.

Actually I had written a whole lot more but I accidently turned off my computer and it erased the whole thing...I had not the time or inclination to finish but I think you get my drift.

My whole point of this is that you are not going to sit there and make it seem like I am some over-emotional freak who just misunderstands Mr. Kind & Sweet Virgo who never hurts a soul. I'm not saying that alot of the posts you make aren't positive...but for you to say you NEVER judge people and you are not trying lash out at Water Signs is BS!

I KNOW I am sensitive and I can misconstrue true intentions so I had given you the benefit of the doubt on several occasions, but I guess today was not the day. I suggest you get a life outside of your fake DXP personality and stop being such a little whiny B!tch. Pull your skirt tail down bruh!

Cancerlady

Back to P-angel I agree with the post about medical conditions so in that sense yeah it would be shallow.There are those cases that require meds.

Especially when it's job related.People don't HAVE to be that close quaters with alot of jobs and if he is smelled it will be more along the lines of these people are trying to smell him.