Is my cancer man emotionally abusive, or just being Cancer?

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Hi,I've been looking at this forum now for weeks and finally posting hoping for some solid advice. I'm a Sagittarian girl and met a Cancer guy while travelling mid last year. We exchanged contact details and texted for about two months before I thought I'd try going back to his city and seeing if anything comes of it (up to that point nothing other than friendship had happened between us but I was very attracted to him and figured since he wrote to me almost every day he might be feeling the same way). I had 5 weeks with him before I had to leave to go back to my country. We got together on the third day and had the most beautiful weeks together and I was full of hope for the future. I had to leave for two months to visit home but I booked flights to come right back to him. Our problems began only two days after I left. I was searching to understand him and us better and knew he was a cancer so I looked up his star sign and then ended up checking our compatibility. ... All I saw was disaster and warning bells. I ignored it though as I believe with enough work and understanding everything is possible. But the more time passed the more we followed nearly textbook cancer/sag combo. Everything I saw written about this combination was happening. I tried so hard to resist and NOT to behave like a Sag but it was so hard because he never saw any of the efforts I made and constantly accused me of being cold and heartless, of putting him last, of not caring about him. I kept thinking it was just the distance making it worse and if I could hold on until I saw him again it would all be fine. But we kept fighting and finally one day after I'd stupidly let loose another of my sag arrows he decided we would take a break for however long it would take until I realise that I needed him by my side. The thing is, I'm a Sag! I don't need anyone, I resent that kind of thinking, I know whatever happens that I'll be OK and can make it on my own, there's always a rainbow somewhere. ... well I at least had the sense not to say that but the break turned into weeks during which time he became increasingly nasty. At first I kept trying to understand his thinking and excused his behaviour by thinking he is just acting as a typical hurt crab,hiding in his shell and snapping at me. But when he kept getting uncontrollably angry on our calls, would threaten me that he'd leave forever and block me and I'd never hear from him again, would insult me many times and call me names, and would BLAME me for his behaviour even when he deliberately tried to hurt me by saying he had a new gf and after then saying no that wasn't true he by his own admission told me he'd said that in order to "f#** with you"...then when I told him the beautiful gentleman I'd fallen in love with when i met him would never have been so cruel, he told me "you pushed me,you made me like this", blaming me entirely for his behaviour. Eventually I fell out of love with him.not the boy i had met,because in my memories he was still the gorgeous sensitive caring gentleman, but it was like two different people and this person who kept phoning me and insulting me and shouting at me and being nasty to me was someone totally different who I could not love. For a long time I kept thinking just hold on and once you see him in person it will all be OK,but it just started to go to far. Then on my last week at home I saw an old lover of mine who I was still very much attracted to and the more the cancer became nasty the more drawn i felt to my old lover. We slept together twice. I do not consider it cheating as the crab and I were no longer together since he'd decided we were on a break a month prior and had said we could both do what we wanted. I had resisted for so long as I had seen my old lover a few times but was still hoping to resolve things with the crab but finally it had become too much and i was too hurt and broken from numerous nights of crying myself to sleep because of his behaviour toward me. I wanted to feel respected again and while I knew it would only ever be a causal thing with my old lover as he has told me before he does not want a gf, he always treated me well when we were together and he would never hurt me,we will always be good friends despite him not wanting to commit. Well somehow the crab guessed at what happened (I've read about their incredible intuition) and the day before my flight out from my country he phoned me and ironically started out by being very sweet and exactly like the old times. I instantly felt some hope that maybe after all we could work things out,then he told me of his fears that I'd done something and he asked me straight out. I'm a very typical sag- i will not lie.so i told him yes. He went crazy and abused me for 4 hours calling me a sl*t and demanding i tell him exactly what happened leaving out no details. I felt so awful that I'd hurt him as i truly didn't want to hurt him so i just meekly listened and answered all his questions. I felt sick. It didn't even matter that i hadn't actually cheated as we were on our break- he says that he'd decided to try again with me even though he had not clearly communicated this to me. Either way i think he still would have reacted the same. His anger terrified me and he even told me not to dare show up in his city as planned 5 days later and that if he saw me there he'd kill me.that sent me cold. For ages i have been trying to ignore the thoughts that kept flashing through my head at each bout of anger from him that if i was actually in his presence at those moments he might hit me. When he said that it reinforced my fears and i could no longer ignore them. Worse was later that day when i told close friends what had happened, leaving out that part, two had said to me separately that they feared for my safety. The strangest thing (which I've since read and appears to also be typically crab) is that after 4 hours of shouting and abusing me he said he wants to forget it all and try again with me because he loves me and he doesn't want to lose me. It struck me as so bipolar i didn't know how to react. I told him that I'm actually scared for my safety with him because of what he said and how he gets so angry and he apologised and said he'd never do anything to hurt me. His voice had totally changed.he was the same soft gentle sensitive boy I'd first seen. Since then he's been so gentle and keeps assuring me he wants to forget everything and try.but i don't think i should. I've been reading so much since then. I've read that cancers can be prone to crimes of passion which i can certainly imagine him to be capable of. I have also noticed him being manipulative. He's started sending me my own messages I'd written him back when i was trying to tell him that yes we are different but we could compliment each other. Last night i arrived in his city but i haven't seen him yet and today i might be too tired due to jetlag. But he has sent me photos of letters i sent him and he wrote "if these words are true,if they are not lies, then come to see me tonight". I think that is manipulative right? Today i actually looked up 'am i in an abusive relationship' and so much of what is said about emotional abusive rings true with me... and my logic thinks that the very fact i have to ask myself that question is surely an indicator? The thing is i truly do not want to hurt him. I saw something so beautiful in him, so sensitive and helpless and i don't want to cause him any pain. But i don't think our relationship is healthy and i don't think we are right for each other. I asked him if he ever got so angry with any of his past gf's and he said never. So i even said to him that maybe we are just not meant for each other, we bring out the worst in each other. A couple should be about building each other up not tearing each other down. I truly think that i never did anything deliberately to hurt him. Yes i hurt him many times with my stupid sag bluntness and also my independence as i just could not give him the amount of constant attention he wanted,but never deliberately. And as for sleeping with my ex well we were on a break at that point but also i really only did it because I'd already decided i had no future with the crab and i just didn't want to break it off over the phone as i feel he deserved the respect of me going in person to do that. I didn't ever think he would guess what I'd done and i feel so awful for hurting him. On the other hand he has deliberately hurt me numerous times and even by his own admission however he always blames me for everything saying that i pushed him to do it (emotional abuse? ). Also he decided that we needed to be 50/50 so he told me that he was going to sleep with a friend of his to get even with me.... To me that thinking is just so wrong! Besides now i feel awful that he's potentially hurt that poor girl as she was hoping to date him and i just hope that he really explained clearly to her that it was just sex.

I'm really hoping for advice here from people who know more about astrology than me. I think i really have to end things with him but i still have that small feeling inside that tempts me to try again and maybe things will be OK, but then. ...is that just classic sign of an abusive relationship? Is he being abusive or is this just typical of cancer? I'm so confused and feel miserable and sad and sick constantly and nervous to talk to him... which is not how a sag should normally feel. I want to be my positive happy optimistic self again. The worst part is that i am here in his city for 9 days then i leave to go on a holiday and he has a flight booked to meet me there after one week and stay 3.5 weeks with me. If we break up now i don't knew what he'll do. I don't want him to waste his money and i don't want him to go there being sad and miserable. I just want him to be happy.but i don't believe i can ever make him happy. We are just too different.
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I've read just some sentences and: It's abuse. There's no excuses for abuse; no sign is an abuser, ppl are.

Also, a chart can show potential abuse done/received; but is just a possibility, everyone can choose.

You are a complete human being, your independence is yours, your life is yours.

You don't owe him nothing, his happiness is his task. You have your own path, try to be conscious and not hurt others nor you.
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But when he kept getting uncontrollably angry on our calls, would threaten me that he'd leave forever and block me and I'd never hear from him again, would insult me many times and call me names, and would BLAME me for his behaviour.....
Yep, you will be threatened and blamed with this over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over until you realize you're stupid for expecting anything different from such an immature manbaby, and leave him instead.



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It's too long. I can't deal with cancer problems, too complex...
Do you pull nonsense like this too seeing as you're Cancer and all? ??

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I would never date a Cancer... This is a warning to everybody too. People should never date Cancers. You are signing a contract to an Intricate expedition.
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It's too long. I can't deal with cancer problems, too complex...
Do you pull nonsense like this too seeing as you're Cancer and all? ??


I would never date a Cancer... This is a warning to everybody too. People should never date Cancers. You are signing a contract to a Intricate expedition.
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That's right! Intricate with capital I for sure ?
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It's too long. I can't deal with cancer problems, too complex...
Do you pull nonsense like this too seeing as you're Cancer and all? ??


I would never date a Cancer... This is a warning to everybody too. People should never date Cancers. You are signing a contract to a Intricate expedition.
That's right! Intricate with capital I for sure ?

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Oh and one more thing... If you ever fall in love with a Cancer, be careful, it's a trap...
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It's too long. I can't deal with cancer problems, too complex...
Do you pull nonsense like this too seeing as you're Cancer and all? ??


I would never date a Cancer... This is a warning to everybody too. People should never date Cancers. You are signing a contract to a Intricate expedition.
That's right! Intricate with capital I for sure ?


Oh and one more thing... If you ever fall in love with a Cancer, be careful, it's a trap...

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Good thing I've never loved a Cancer before. Sometimes I wonder what it's like for a man to fly of their handle. I don't recall ever witnessing it. My cancer friends just cry but that's as far as they go.
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It's too long. I can't deal with cancer problems, too complex...
Do you pull nonsense like this too seeing as you're Cancer and all? ??


I would never date a Cancer... This is a warning to everybody too. People should never date Cancers. You are signing a contract to a Intricate expedition.
That's right! Intricate with capital I for sure ?


Oh and one more thing... If you ever fall in love with a Cancer, be careful, it's a trap...


Good thing I've never loved a Cancer before. Sometimes I wonder what it's like for a man to fly of their handle. I don't recall ever witnessing it. My cancer friends just cry but that's as far as they go.

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It's too long. I can't deal with cancer problems, too complex...
Do you pull nonsense like this too seeing as you're Cancer and all? ??


I would never date a Cancer... This is a warning to everybody too. People should never date Cancers. You are signing a contract to a Intricate expedition.
That's right! Intricate with capital I for sure ?


Oh and one more thing... If you ever fall in love with a Cancer, be careful, it's a trap...


Good thing I've never loved a Cancer before. Sometimes I wonder what it's like for a man to fly of their handle. I don't recall ever witnessing it. My cancer friends just cry but that's as far as they go.


Would you like a test drive for 5 minutes?
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Well, since Aquarians are experimental, let's do it.

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Posted by Sagaussi
Hi,I've been looking at this forum now for weeks and finally posting hoping for some solid advice. I'm a Sagittarian girl and met a Cancer guy while travelling mid last year.

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I'm so confused and feel miserable and sad and sick constantly and nervous to talk to him... which is not how a sag should normally feel. I want to be my positive happy optimistic self again. The worst part is that i am here in his city for 9 days then i leave to go on a holiday and he has a flight booked to meet me there after one week and stay 3.5 weeks with me. If we break up now i don't knew what he'll do. I don't want him to waste his money and i don't want him to go there being sad and miserable. I just want him to be happy.but i don't believe i can ever make him happy. We are just too different.
Sounds like this relationship is already over. I wish you luck on your next.
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It's too long. I can't deal with cancer problems, too complex...
Do you pull nonsense like this too seeing as you're Cancer and all? ??


I would never date a Cancer... This is a warning to everybody too. People should never date Cancers. You are signing a contract to a Intricate expedition.
That's right! Intricate with capital I for sure ?


Oh and one more thing... If you ever fall in love with a Cancer, be careful, it's a trap...


Good thing I've never loved a Cancer before. Sometimes I wonder what it's like for a man to fly of their handle. I don't recall ever witnessing it. My cancer friends just cry but that's as far as they go.


Would you like a test drive for 5 minutes?
Well, since Aquarians are experimental, let's do it.

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Ok. Meet me here tomorrow at 4pm ET. Come alone and bring 3 yellow umbrellas.
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It's too long. I can't deal with cancer problems, too complex...
Do you pull nonsense like this too seeing as you're Cancer and all? ??


I would never date a Cancer... This is a warning to everybody too. People should never date Cancers. You are signing a contract to a Intricate expedition.
That's right! Intricate with capital I for sure ?


Oh and one more thing... If you ever fall in love with a Cancer, be careful, it's a trap...


Good thing I've never loved a Cancer before. Sometimes I wonder what it's like for a man to fly of their handle. I don't recall ever witnessing it. My cancer friends just cry but that's as far as they go.


Would you like a test drive for 5 minutes?
Well, since Aquarians are experimental, let's do it.


Ok. Meet me here tomorrow at 4pm ET. Come alone and bring 3 yellow umbrellas.
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Noted. See you tomorrow
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"Hi,I've been looking at this forum now for weeks and finally posting hoping for some solid advice. I'm a Sagittarian girl and met a Cancer guy while travelling mid last year. We exchanged contact details and texted for about two months before I thought I'd try going back to his city and seeing if anything comes of it (up to that point nothing other than friendship had happened between us but I was very attracted to him and figured since he wrote to me almost every day he might be feeling the same way). I had 5 weeks with him before I had to leave to go back to my country. We got together on the third day and had the most beautiful weeks together and I was full of hope for the future. I had to leave for two months to visit home but I booked flights to come right back to him. Our problems began only two days after I left. I was searching to understand him and us better and knew he was a cancer so I looked up his star sign and then ended up checking our compatibility.

All I saw was disaster and warning bells. I ignored it though as I believe with enough work and understanding everything is possible. But the more time passed the more we followed nearly textbook cancer/sag combo. Everything I saw written about this combination was happening. I tried so hard to resist and NOT to behave like a Sag but it was so hard because he never saw any of the efforts I made and constantly accused me of being cold and heartless, of putting him last, of not caring about him. I kept thinking it was just the distance making it worse and if I could hold on until I saw him again it would all be fine. But we kept fighting and finally one day after I'd stupidly let loose another of my sag arrows he decided we would take a break for however long it would take until I realise that I needed him by my side. The thing is, I'm a Sag! I don't need anyone, I resent that kind of thinking, I know whatever happens that I'll be OK and can make it on my own, there's always a rainbow somewhere. ... well I at least had the sense not to say that but the break turned into weeks during which time he became increasingly nasty.

At first I kept trying to understand his thinking and excused his behaviour by thinking he is just acting as a typical hurt crab,hiding in his shell and snapping at me. But when he kept getting uncontrollably angry on our calls, would threaten me that he'd leave forever and block me and I'd never hear from him again, would insult me many times and call me names, and would BLAME me for his behaviour even when he deliberately tried to hurt me by saying he had a new gf and after then saying no that wasn't true he by his own admission told me he'd said that in order to "f#** with you"...then when I told him the beautiful gentleman I'd fallen in love with when i met him would never have been so cruel, he told me "you pushed me,you made me like this", blaming me entirely for his behaviour."


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Fuck it. I tried. I got lost in that mess of a wall of text. I am getting a headache.
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It's too long. I can't deal with cancer problems, too complex...
Do you pull nonsense like this too seeing as you're Cancer and all? ??


I would never date a Cancer... This is a warning to everybody too. People should never date Cancers. You are signing a contract to a Intricate expedition.
That's right! Intricate with capital I for sure ?


Oh and one more thing... If you ever fall in love with a Cancer, be careful, it's a trap...


Good thing I've never loved a Cancer before. Sometimes I wonder what it's like for a man to fly of their handle. I don't recall ever witnessing it. My cancer friends just cry but that's as far as they go.


Would you like a test drive for 5 minutes?
Well, since Aquarians are experimental, let's do it.


Ok. Meet me here tomorrow at 4pm ET. Come alone and bring 3 yellow umbrellas.
Noted. See you tomorrow

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See you tomorrow. Hide these posts now because i don't want Seraphlight to see them. She has been stalking me.
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It's too long. I can't deal with cancer problems, too complex...
Do you pull nonsense like this too seeing as you're Cancer and all? ??


I would never date a Cancer... This is a warning to everybody too. People should never date Cancers. You are signing a contract to a Intricate expedition.
That's right! Intricate with capital I for sure ?


Oh and one more thing... If you ever fall in love with a Cancer, be careful, it's a trap...


Good thing I've never loved a Cancer before. Sometimes I wonder what it's like for a man to fly of their handle. I don't recall ever witnessing it. My cancer friends just cry but that's as far as they go.


Would you like a test drive for 5 minutes?
Well, since Aquarians are experimental, let's do it.


Ok. Meet me here tomorrow at 4pm ET. Come alone and bring 3 yellow umbrellas.
Noted. See you tomorrow


See you tomorrow. Hide these posts now because i don't want Seraphlight to see them. She has been stalking me.
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LOL. Another cancer. ?
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Thanks all for your responses. Yes I know my post was long, I guess it was a kind of therapy- I needed to write it all out and get things straight in my head. Also apologies to any cancerians who took offense to what I wrote as the subject line. My reason for that subject really was just searching for answers, I want to understand him, I feel like he is being emotionally abusive however a lot of things may be simply attributed to his cancerian qualities of being very possessive and needy and just mix so badly with my sag need for freedom and trust.