signs of cancer man in love

how does a cancer man act when in love? what are some signs he's falling for you? i take it he's not going to be open about it? or would they venture it if they were truly in love? how do you get them to initiate any sign of deep emotion without outright just pouring your emotions out? ok, show them you are understanding, that you listen to them, try to make them feel safe, what else? what if you can't break down the barrier, what if you feel that he is pushing you away? i am at a standstill with a cancer man and ANY advice on how to proceed would be helpful. i'm a defensive scorp who has been hurt before by him so pouring all of my feelings out would be a last resort, although i'm considering it but i would be more willing to do so if i could assume that he feels the same. i need clues. blunt and honest. i'm ready to give up and assume he doesn't care, but something tells me i need to get to the bottomw of this, the core of it, i need him to be completely honest before i can let it go. is this possible?

"clues? sex is making love...lots of face touching...lots of snuggling...need to be around you a lot...calls...listens..."

Thats it right there!

LeoKitten, I respect your relationship, but my Cancer is very indirect and subtle sometimes. Other times he's very bold and cuts to the chase, but when it comes to emotions and declarations of emotions, its usually by something more meaningful and less to the point. For example he might say something that indicates I mean a lot to him like "I could be anywhere in the world, but Im here with you, and Im happy to be here" rather that just say "you mean a lot to me". Bad thing is, it takes work to figure out when he's doing it and if I dont catch on to what he is trying to say his feelings are hurt. It might be a trait of the younger more inexperienced Cancer.

I think the listening and sharing part are very key to how much a cancer is into you too. I wont lie and say my Cancer guy calls me all the time and initiates all the contact, but whenever something happens that he just HAS to share, he'll call me, voice full of excitement and wonder, and sometimes he'll call me and just listen to me talk. At first I thought he was being an idiot calling me with nothing to say, then I thought about it and now I feel special because I can tell he's just listening to me filing away what Im saying, enjoying my voice and I know this by his thoughtful responses and perfectly timed reminders.

thanks for your comments. i guess i'm just tryig to figure out if i should initiate more or just back off. he's very confusing. we were together a few years back, it became intense quickly, then he broke it off saying he was scared of feeling so deeply, since at the time we were both going away to school and, also, he had been hurt before. i felt very strongly for him, but never told him. we kept in touch for a little while but then he stopped returning my calls.
he contacted me recently and asked if we could meet up again, we did. great conversations, except i got defensive at the end and spoke of my relationships, other men... i don't know why, i believe i'm still hurt by him and don't trust him. we were both very open the whole time until the end, as i said, i started closing myself off, making it obvious that i've had other meaningful people in my life (although none who meant to me what he did, of course i didn't say this). but anyway, we both agreed we would like to see each other again, i texted him a message soon after saying i had a great time, we should get together again soon, he has not responded. it's been a couple of weeks. should i continue and let him make contact when he's ready or should i try once more? can anybody interpret possibly what he might be feeling to make him act this way?

just give him space and let him decide what he's going to do. You have no obligation to him either way so just do what your heart says. if your heart says stick with it, then try to be patient and wait it out, if it says move on then do that.

Good luck

Cassandra, I am not here to put you down or anything because I KNOW exactly how you feel because at some point in my life I have been in a similar situation.

I know a lot of women say I and Leokitten are very rude, blunt women but to a certain degree if you really listen to Leokitten, she makes some very good points. A man who is continuously showing you love and not putting in work to win your heart should not be an option. No!

He has to want to LOVE you, want to cherish you and there is no ifs ands or buts about making up excuses for him. No action, no thoughts of him should be in your mind. No thoughts, time, space no nothing. YOU are a Queen and in order for him to cherish you as a Queen you have to present yourself as one or tell him to beat it. Men are not stupid they know a woman who is confident and one who is looking for something from them right from the beginning. What will he do if he can feel your neediness, withdraw away from YOU! You have to live your life without the neediness from him or any man for that matter.

Maybe you are treating your Cancer friend just as a friend and not a lover. Men want a lover more than a mother or a friend. A challenge, not someone who they know they have a hold on. It is just not interesting to a man. If he is not giving YOU want YOU need and out of this then let him go on. Don't try to hold on to him.

Why? Why keep letting a man who is not treating YOU as the Queen that you are in and out of your life. The more you let him in and out the more he will run in and out of the door way of your life. You have to toughen up your turf. Make some strong boundaries and stick to them. Period! It's no half and half, your love has to be TOUGH and I don't mean be bitter or harsh.

You can tell the Cancer man how you feel because he likes vulnerability. Just don't holler or scream at him with anger. It is OK to share your feelings; he will distance himself more if you are not open and vulnerable. Just share your feelings and back off. He will pick up on them and come back around. He cannot relate to you hiding your feelings from him. NO, no not a Cancer man he wants you to open yourself up without anger or bitterness. You have to ?talk? and he will talk and let you know what he wants. He is not afraid to tell you what "he" wants out of this. The whole catch is just don't let him "tell" you things without living up to the words. He wants to know you will not tolerate just words without action.

I am going through more or less the same thing, My boyfriend is an cancerian and im a taurus, ive been with him for a year and 3 months and not sure im making any progress as he draws close then retreats in to his shell for a couple of days, I'm not sure how he feels about me and i it's hurtful as Iam very expressive. I'd say my advice to you is to have it out with him as this worked for me. Tell him how you feel and ask him what he wants from the relationship, Dont be scared to do this because you'll probably be pleasantly surprised, I was with my own slow moving crab!

well, he may be a cancer, but he's a person first and each of us is individual. i'm married to a cancer and from what i saw i will agree, they can take for-frickin'-ever! time is different for them when they're testing the waters than for when they dive in. the first one can take years, the dive is startlingly quick. and my husband and his ex tried 3 times to be together with years in between each try. like i said, time is different for them. pushing, prodding, rushing. all bad things. guess my advice would be to be semi-available, sunny, friendly, bubbly and just focus on friendship. cancer or individual, frienship without pressure is always a great start!

"i need clues. blunt and honest. i need him to be completely honest before i can let it go. is this possible?"

This is very hard for Cancers to do. They hate putting their feelings on the line because they fear rejection or someone taking advantage of them. In the beginning I expected the same from my Cancer, but I soon learned to stop looking for what he says and to look for what he does to show me that he loves me and wants to be with me.

?Cancer men dont like too much too soon. It takes TIME and PATIENCE with this man.He may have been hurtin the past so doesnt want to get close to anyone (just yet).?

Agreed!!! Everything will happen in their time. Pushing and wanting more when they are not ready will not help. They will give you as much as they feel you deserve or earned and eventually they will show more? but with time.

?My Cancer is very indirect and subtle sometimes. Other times he's very bold and cuts to the chase, but when it comes to emotions and declarations of emotions, its usually by something more meaningful and less to the point.?

My Cancer guy is also very much like this.


?not sure im making any progress as he draws close then retreats in to his shell for a couple of days?

In the beginning my Cancer was like this. By being very slow, they want to be absolutely positive about the person they are with. So they constantly retreat to evaluate the relationship to figure out whether they want to be in it. While doing so they also want to see what kind of reaction they will get from the other person. And because they are indirect, you may have done something unknown to you that hurt them. They sometimes expect people to read them like how they can read other people. Unfortunately, it can't always happen.

?they can take for-frickin'-ever! time is different for them when they're testing the waters than for when they dive in.?

Very much so!

Like everyone said? it is going to take a lot of patience and endurance to deal with this man. Depending on his past, he may be very guarded. Cancer men are very complex but once they see that you understand them and can tolerate and pass their ?tests?, they will allow themselves to open their heart to you, but you have to be a deserving person for them to open up like that. Someone that they feel is ?perfect? for them, one who will not disappoint them, intentionally hurt them and one whom they feel comfortable with in all aspects.

I hope things work out!

"frienship without pressure is always a great start!"

Yesss!!! Friendship is very important to Cancers and if you can flex with them as a friend they will appreciate that more than you putting on the pressures of trying to be in a relationship.

Krobe I have been reading ur posts on different threads and I must say I like ur style . It reminds me of the principles in this book called "Why Men Love c**kiemonsteres" by Sherry Argov.

Um, No, I don't have any rules but I have been dealing with men long enough to know what works and what doesn't work and I def know that sitting around waiting on a man to come back to you ever time he is pulling away and you pursuing him or "even" iniating "Calling" him is just putting out unnecessary energy!

Being exclusive and acting like a girlfriend BEFORE he is MARRIED and fully committed to you is a trap! You are being a steady woman in his life where he has ALL the power over you. He gets to sleep with you, you cook, clean, mother him with extra "love" dote over him, shower him with love and attention so you can prove your loyalty to him and all you are doing is being "desperate".

He is aware you are desperate so he will do everything he can to act Toxic and keep you into his poisonous trap, simply because he is aware you have low self esteem.

I really don't too many men that marry women with low self esteem that is the reason why you stay his "girlfriend" and exclusive with him until his dream girl comes along! Then he will break the girlfriend deal and get married to someone else who appears to not give a flyin fu@@ about him while you put in years of hard work just to "get him".

I just believe women should always act as a prize and someone worth "getting"! Men cannot fall in love with a woman who is trying to "get him". He will not be the man you want anyways. He will be lazy and you will be "weak" doing all the work in the relationship and who wants that role. A desperate woman!

"Being exclusive and acting like a girlfriend BEFORE he is MARRIED and fully committed to you is a trap! You are being a steady woman in his life where he has ALL the power over you. He gets to sleep with you, you cook, clean, mother him with extra "love" dote over him, shower him with love and attention so you can prove your loyalty to him and all you are doing is being "desperate"."

Are you married Krobe?

People court and get to know each other before they actually marry. Cooking and whatever else for a man is not being desperate. 2-3 years is the maximum in my books for courting, but if a woman is with a man for 5-10 years without being married, and is acting like the wife, then that is being desperate. On the other hand some people choose not to be married and are quite fine being in a common law marriage with someone.

"Then he will break the girlfriend deal and get married to someone else who appears to not give a flyin fu@@ about him while you put in years of hard work just to "get him"."

I don't think this is true. I am sorry but any man that wants a woman who does not treat him good, it is him that is in fact dealing with low self-esteem.

Women need to realise that treating a man badly does not make them a stronger woman. That tactic may cause him to chase, but eventually the chasing will get old and he will want someone that can be his partner, not someone that he has to put up with or struggle to keep. I think it is the other way around, men marry the wife material and have the seductive, hard to reach woman on the side as the mistress. They may be intrigued by her game but do they actually leave their wives. Hardly ever do.

Women should just be themselves; by putting neither less nor more effort in which they feel is deserved into someone. Yes some women go over board and try to please a man, but being mean and bitter to gain control is only playing a game and eventually all games come to an end. At the end of the day, you are not losing anything by being yourself, and if someone can't appreciate the good about you then you need to leave them. With every relationship we learn and there is someone out there for everyone. Why lose yourself by trying to win?

Also Krobe...

I have a Leo friend that reminds me alot of you by how she deals with men. She is all about the she's the "Queen" nonsense, whatever. But she has been in a relationship with a man for many, many years and although she seems to have all the control, he has not married her yet.

They have nothing invested in eachother and I have heard that he cheats alot. Although, in my eyes and in everyone else's she seems to have her man where she wants him, like a puppy dog on a leash wagging his tail around her. But, is it really a healthy relationship? Is she happy? Is he? She pulls the leash tight, and it may cause him to stay close; but does he really want to be there? I think that if a woman comes along and treats him the way that he would want, he would make her his wife.

I have more guy friends than I have women, and you'd be surprised with the stories that I hear everyday about women that think that they have their men where they want him when in fact the men are just waiting for a real woman to come along who is not afraid to be herself.

So funny this got posted...
I'm dealing with feelings for a Cancer man myself.
Scorpio and Cancer have a very intense connection. Almost too intense for Cancers to deal with. I've dated quite a few. Our emotional impulses scare them, they don't trust easily. I've had a couple wait til I was in or almost in another relationship before they decided to nab me.
it's that sidestepping thing.

ALSO, they put us in touch with our hearts, which makes us vulnerable, which turns them on. Ever cry to one? Foreplay...

that chase stuff is bullshit...for guys in their 20's that is normal...stupid - but normal.... but in their 30s, 40s etc.... no. If a guy is still playing those kinds of bullshit games at that age then he doesn't deserve to have a real woman in his life, and deserves to be stepped on by loser bitches who act like they're too good to give equally in a relationship and DEMAND to be treated like a queen - a man will treat you like a queen if you ARE a queen, a real one, not a DRAMA queen.

there are real men and real women, and then there are...well there are plenty of examples right here on DXP of the other kind...take a look around....

A real man will recognize a real woman and treat her as such - and a real woman will do the same for a real man....taking care of someone you love doesn't make you weak, and any man or woman who thinks it does has a LOT of growing up to do.

well. hasn't this one been interesting. i'm going to wade into the fray with the following:
men and women are all individuals, but as genders go there are differences. btw krobe, i've read the argov book. it DOES give good advice if one has a problem with doormatishness. and yes, as a strong aries with a sense of self worth as big as all outdoors, i tend to naturally apply many of "the rules" currently en vogue for catching and snatching a man! i suppose that makes me a real queen, not a drama queen. i do believe however that you can apply the rules to a relationship minus any need for games or manipulation. people treat you how you tell them to. expect respect, honesty and depth, and they will either give this to you, or you simply don't engage with them. period. at the core of her book, that's what argov is saying. this SHOULD be the theory across all astro signs and genders. it's not always tho, hence the need to educate women on not getting used i guess. another thing to realize is that the world has suddenly changed drastically in the last 50 years. it takes biology thousands of years to evolve. we are really just caught in a crossfire between roles shifting suddenly, and biology not at all yet. miracles abound, women are now able to live fully without men having everything, and men are at a loss about how to behave in the face of this.

cancer men tend to be more sensitive, have a higher developed feminine understanding and are on the whole much less macho than say, an aries guy. this often stands them in good stead in this new world. but they're still men. and like most men, they seek a relationship with a woman who is interesting, of similar intellect, with similar goals and desires. a woman who doesn't need them, but deeply desires them. cancer's are more invested in that idea than many men. my husband loves that i am highly independant, but CHOOSE to let him take the lead alot of the time. i handle things fine and always take care of business, but have no problem turning into a lamb when he walks thru the door. he recognizes the gift that this is, when a strong woman is willing to soften and give him total trust.
men want an equal, and being female with all the qualities that implies in no way diminishes strength. male and female are two halves of a whole. each with their own aspects. in harmony, there is no better arrangement.

"i agree with you (again )."

Thanks! I agree with everything you said as well.

"i think each woman has to do/give what she feels."

Exactly!

"that chase stuff is bullbutter..."

It is!

"and like most men, they seek a relationship with a woman who is interesting, of similar intellect, with similar goals and desires. a woman who doesn't need them, but deeply desires them."

I agree with this completely, and therefore a woman with these traits should find no need to play little girl games.

yes firefly, that's a fine elucidation of things. my very cancer man has made the comment that he likes that i don't need him. i'm not a dependant. therefore, he knows that my being with him is a choice. it's a validation of my desire to be with him. cancer's very much need constant validation. as an aries, i find this taxing, but as a human, i'm willing to do what he needs to feel loved.

he once wrote to me, "i know you're strong enough to take care of things when you need to, but you don't mind letting me take the lead sometimes as well." and cancer men "disappear" once in awhile. they may never leave the house, you may be sitting right there next to them, but they need to submerge. knowing you get it, understand and can manage on your own, as it were, until they come out of it is a huge thing for them.

CANCER MEN ARE IN LOVE, but this could go for anyman too:

When they do go thru the PUSH/PULL as everyone already knows:
1. They're in deeper than they've expected, but not sure how you feel about the relationship.
2. They're going thru a very difficult time and need space to deal with their issues.
3. They'll come around you and still need space. I let him sulk in a room and take him food every once in a while.

***But he should respond to your attempts to contact him, this is a sign that he cares. Otherwise, he's probably not interested.***


Suddenly, they become the perfect gentleman that you fell for:
1. They're always around helping and you don't have to ask.
2. They're giving you comfort constantly.
3. They're calling you ALL the time.
4. It's true about the touching/love making. It gets more intense!

***But you only get this after showing them that you're patient enough to deal with their crabiness and they're sure that you care***


Then, all the issues you've had before kinda disappear and you move into this "JUST KNOWING" how he'll respond to your every need.
1. He's much more considerate and listens; asking you how your day is and what you need.
2. You're first in his life; he's balancing his life to include you.

***He only gives when he knows that you're not just here to take advantage of him.***

TLeo,

LOL... I went through those same stages with my Cancer! All those things are very true and without patience and understanding many women may not get to the final stage.

Who cares about your business Krobe? I know it's not me. But don't come on here saying that you are the Queen, you don't act like the man... and pull that you're in control BS; telling other women that a man won't marry them unless they take your destructive advice, when you have been with a man for 12 years and he is not married to you! It's obvious that you wouldn't have been able to answer my question... so LOL at that!

"personally you are so distraught about Leo women"

Leo or no Leo... when you're wrong, you're wrong and when you're right, you're right and I am woman enough to make that known. Even with you... when you respond to a post and I agree I'll make it known. I am not into child's play.

"Get lost-analyze and break down your own posts and figure out why your man is constantly pulling away from you!"

You got your facts wrong because this is not my problem... maybe before you actually reply to a thread you should read it and see what is going on before you pull your predictable way of responding. Which is neither informative nor helpful, only negative and degrading.

My Cancer man is still in love with his ex? Yeah, and that's why I'll be his wife next year. If you don't care about my business don't make assumptions about something you don't know and "don't care to know"!

"Some cooking is fine but most men are able to cook for themselves, do their laundry themselves, make decisions for their selves and they really don't want you ACCOMPANYING them."

And if he asks a woman to do these things, with her discretion she can determine that nothing is wrong with her being a W-O-M-A-N!

"Calling him first, pursuing him, cooking for him, initiating and planning things are basically being a MAN in the relationship!"

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard!

I am sorry but your logics are whack, your arguments are whack, you're whack and I am just wasting my time even responding to you. But you need to learn that before you point your fingers at anyone you should ensure that your own hands are clean.

"Yup. Krobe is right. If we are going to put this in terms of astrology, Cancer men ESPECIALLY don't dissapear on the ones they TRULY love. The opposite is actually true. They can become very clingy."

Yesss MP! But like you agreed to in an earlier post, Cancer men work in stages and that clinginess comes in affect at the last stage, after you have proven yourself worthy.

Well MP... I must have imagined it then!

Troubledleo: 9/13/2008 10:15:15 AM "CANCER MEN ARE IN LOVE, but this could go for anyman too:

When they do go thru the PUSH/PULL as everyone already knows:

Suddenly, they become the perfect gentleman that you fell for:

***But you only get this after showing them that you're patient enough to deal with their crabiness and they're sure that you care***

Then, all the issues you've had before kinda disappear and you move into this "JUST KNOWING" how he'll respond to your every need.

***He only gives when he knows that you're not just here to take advantage of him.***"


Ms. Pisces: 9/13/2008 2:56:06 PM "You can just tell with any man, but thats especially true with Cancer men."

"Anyway, I know yall Taurus chicks take this Cancer thing seriously lol, so I'm not about to get involved in all of this."

Well I think that when one is giving another advice they should be serious and when one is in a relationship with another that too should be serious. Anything to do with the matters of the heart should be taken serious.

Have a nice day MP!

Oh ok... I stand corrected. But that post from troubledleo was very true about the characteristics of a Cancer man in love.

"You keep bringing up krobe like you sleep with me in your every thought at night."

Don't flatter yourself! I responded to your stupid post and that's how your name got called up. Other than that, it's a relief when you're not around, because the threads won't turn into a war zone.

"I will TELL you I am not married because I don't WANT to be married. I am involved in myself-SO, therefore when I AM READY to get married I will get married. you want to come to my wedding when I DO DECIDE I am ready to get married? By the way, October 19, 2008 is the date. You want me to send you and invitation?"

Read the above... does it make sense to you? That's what I thought... you don't care to get married but you are getting married? O.K! This is the perfect example that you do not know what you're talking about. You're confused! So your advice is confusing and you confuse people! Nonsense? just nonsense!

"He CAN stop running AWAY from you long enough"

You keep saying this! You're crazy! I have never said that he runs away from me! LOL You mean like how your Cancer used to run and hide from you... is this what you're trying to say. Don't get it twisted now!

Maybe what you're trying to say to these women is "I have been through hell with men, I hate them, they effed me over. So now I treat them like shiat to make myself feel better and I will make my man pay for every man that hurt me. I am here to help you women from going through what I've been through, learn from me."

Yep that sounds like you!

"because he will be married to ANOTHER MAN!"

OK so my man is gay now. WOW... you really are a maniac!

Anyway... my energy and time is too precious for you and responding to your posts does not make any sense... it's obvious that you are a moron and your posts are making that quite clear. If I respond to you, you will just make yourself look stupider. Let's avoid that shall we? You don't want to look any stupider now do you?

Exactly Scorpqueen... she can't bring anything new to the table... it's pathetic!

You've either got it, or you don't.

Don't spend time trying to school these girls. Its pointless.

I will take this advice for the best I have read on these boards! Priceless! Either you have it or you don't!

Too late Krobe... doesn't make sense to hide your posts now. Were you trying to cover up how stupid you've been looking? Well let me show everyone... try hiding my posts! LOL

Krobe ?YEAH! IT MAKES SENSE! DO YOU WANT TO COME TO MY WEDDING? I PROBABLY DON'T make ANY sense TO YOU because I don't want to! I AM GETTING MARRIED ON OCTOBER 18, 2008. DO YOU WANT TO COME??

Haha? you're not intelligent? but you are funny (in a dumb way)? I have to give you that!

Krobe 9/11/2008 11:19:37 AM ?Being exclusive and acting like a girlfriend BEFORE he is MARRIED and fully committed to you is a trap! You are being a steady woman in his life where he has ALL the power over you. He gets to sleep with you, you cook, clean, mother him with extra "love" dote over him, shower him with love and attention so you can prove your loyalty to him and all you are doing is being "desperate".

Then what you're saying is that you're desperate? because if you are in a steady 12 year relationship in which you are not married, you are exactly what you are describing in the above post.

Krobe 9/15/2008 12:09:57 PM ?I have been engaged for YEARS!?

You make no sense? this post is contradicting the previous post.

Krobe: ?If you want to know the Reason why I haven't been married-READ I have always worked either two jobs or been in college for the pasts 12 years.?

I am sure you get vacation with those two jobs? and if you don't there is always a public holiday that you could have tied the knot on. 12 years is a long time to be going to school. You can't even type? I wonder what degree you hold. Hum let's see?

Krobe: ?My man has brought me a new car whenever I wanted one, he is buying me a home in the suburbs of the city we live in?

Guess what! A real woman can get those things for herself!

Krobe: ?I am not cooking him dinner, washing his clothes and/or revolving my life around trying to get and trap "him" doing nothing no more than being myself.?

That's why you're not with a Cancer. Because you are a USER! Who can't get her own things. You're being yourself alright? no good!

Krobe: ?Any "REAL" woman will KNOW that you don't have to do anything but be yourself to get a man.?

I think you're biting my line here sister!

Krobe: ?Um, what about you Lady Taurus- You are on here like a hawk sucking up information and doing things that obviously is making YOU miserable and things that is clearly leaving YOU heartbroken.?

That's why unlike you I can pass on positive advice to others. I am loved, in love and have lots of love, so I have not problem sharing that love. The negativity that you hold proves that you are obviously the unhappy one.

Krobe: ?How do I know? I can read through women like YOU! I can honestly say I don't know NO Cancer man who will marry any woman he is in constant mode of running away from!?

Your words mean nothing to me. Cause you can't read me and I know where I am with my relationship and I don't need to come on here like you and try to make people believe things that aren't so.

Krobe ?Why do I say this? I KNOW your man constantly is in running mode because RE-READ yours OWN posts! LOL! You are too easy to not READ!?

Are you a retard? which of my posts did you pick that from? I must admit? you're good? good at being an idiot!

Krobe ?Um, no NO Cancer man has ran away from me, I did EXACTLY what your man's ex-LEO woman did and kicked his sorry ass to the curb.?

He kicked her sorry ass to the curb. She has never been the same since. A maniac like you.

Krobe: ?You however, are picking up the pieces of the puzzle of a man who is still in love with his "EX".?

Amusing? it's a good thing that people mature and grow up. Otherwise, he would have been like you. Making other women pay for the way she mistreated him. But now that he is with someone like me he looks back at the past and smiles, thankful that a controlling, psychotic woman has given him the opportunity to recognise a normal woman. Quite frankly, he feels sorry for her. Because now she has a man that mistreats her just like she mistreated my guy. Karma!

Krobe: ?Taurus women like YOU quit trying to analyze krobe and get a LIFE!?

Krobe, you need a life! You make me sick!

Krobe: ?Peace out, you don't have standards to be beneath!?

Well as low as you may think they are my standards they are alot higher that yours, so yours must be non-existent!

Krobe - those are only calls he's giving you, if they want you it will be more than just a call. And without devulging things you told me in confidence - I don't think he was totally into you so if you've gone back to your man it was probably a better choice for you.

Well they are UNANSWERED calls because unlike "other" women, I choose not to be bothered by him.

scorpioqueen: "Krobe - no offense but your tactics didn't win you your cancer man either so perhaps your games didn't work."

Exactly! Well she seems to know everything. I wonder what happened! LOL

scorpioqueen: "Krobe - those are only calls he's giving you, if they want you it will be more than just a call."

Poor child. And she feels like she can give others advice. This is all a joke!

"I think that women who want these cancer men need to be a little mysterious before the catch. Once you catch these guys they want to see the loving side of you...not just how good you hump. AND THAT HAS BEEN CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THE ONES I KNOW."

Exactly... and no one wants to be playing mind games all the time. You grow up and get sick of that shiat. Cancer men are sensitive and will not allow a woman to treat them badly for a long period of time.

Lady_Taurus, I have FINALLY realized what EVER one else is saying about YOU, you have very, very low self esteem, I DIDN'T HIDE my posts, I removed them because whoever said trying to school someone as worthless as you was the priceless advice they could give and I am going to make the same statement Ms. Pisces said, I am not going to even get myself involved with a tasmian devil as you.

You are lifeless!

"Well they are UNANSWERED calls because unlike "other" women, I choose not to be bothered by him."

And? I guess you're all stong and mighty now are you?

"By the way Krobe - I was married to a leo man & he was a sel;fish A $ $ until I chose to leave his Arse & jaw on the ground begging for me to stay...so let's not get into the topic of leo's."

Most Leos are like this. They always want to be the center of attention and eventually people get sick of them. They are really tiresome and exausting! Quite pathetic to be honest!

Exactly... and no one wants to be playing mind games all the time. You grow up and get sick of that shiat. Cancer men are sensitive and will not allow a woman to treat them badly for a long period of time.

Yeah, I know being YOURSELF and not doing nothing besides just being YOU is big time games! They are the biggest games in the world to play for "REAL" women. Only girls think small enough to try to do things to "get" a man.

A REAL woman knows that trying to convince ANY man of doing nothing more than being yourself and living your life to suit YOU and what makes you happy is not a game. It is a woman who puts herself FIRST and leaves him stuck with his own BS!

She doesn't have to cook him dinner, wash his clothes or do things to get him or try to keep him.

I wish a CANCER man will come on here and tell you that any women who does these things when he doesn't "WANT" them makes him feel-trapped, locked behind prison bars, suffocated, a BURDEN!

Krobe - you originally left the man you are now marrying for the cancer dude, so what does that say bout you? Obviously this marriage will eventually end in divorce cuz if you could easily leave a longterm relationship for someone you didn't even have u will again when the next interest comes along. THIS IS WHAT A CANCER MAN IS AFRAID OF....they want stability. Perhaphs if you really wanted the cancer dude you should've tried LT's advice & been a little gentler of a woman. These guys are not looking for butch brods, they're looking for a lady....one whom is fit to be the mother of their children.

LT has her cancer man, she must've done something right....no?

Scorp Queen READ ok, quit assuming-READ you did not one time hear me say I was MARRYING a CANCER man! READ why don't you quit assuming.

I see I am doing nothing anymore than feeding two women's EGO who obviously have very low self esteem about themselves.

I guess I am can say I am too proud and I think way too much of myself to indulge in this. This is the same thing I had going on with another SCORP and TAURUS I will just let you two feed my ego for the next 50 posts! I am done!

Um... everyone like you and your pose Leo Kitten? As if you're ones to talk. I do not struggle with low-self esteem but in fact possess an amazing strength of a woman. I am bluntly honest and I hold true to my morals. I am not going to allow someone like you to come on here and type shiat about me when you know nothing. You attack people and degrade them, but I always find it so amusing to know that you are no stonger than them. Say what you want but as long as you run your mouth I will respond and before you start talking what you think is my business... you better make sure that you're witness!

You removed your posts because you are a coward. You type with no sense and when you realise what you've typed, you remove them to save face.

I don't need to call you names and belittle you to prove how really immature and illiterate you are. That's why you removed your posts because you know that no one agrees with you besides people that have no mind of their own and rely on your so called Leo strength.

"Scorp Queen READ ok, quit assuming-READ you did not one time hear me say I was MARRYING a CANCER man! READ why don't you quit assuming."

I understood exactly what she was saying. Maybe you need to read!

Scorp... all of a sudden Krobe is getting married? Please! When I see it, I'll believe it. It was just convenient for her to say that she was because she realised that she was calling someone else out on something that she herself had not achieved. LOL!

"A REAL woman knows that trying to convince ANY man of doing nothing more than being yourself and living your life to suit YOU and what makes you happy is not a game."

A real woman will know that this is for a single woman... who does not plan to share her life with another person.

Krobe everything you said is rubbish! I wish a Cancer man would come on here and tell you straight what they would want and not want from their future wives.

Stick to the Capricorn boards Krobe... you know NOTHING about a Cancer man!

Scorp... all of a sudden Krobe is getting married? Please! When I see it, I'll believe it. It was just convenient for her to say that she was because she realised that she was calling someone else out on something that she herself had not achieved. LOL!

Um, Lady_Taurus I am inviting YOU to may wedding! Do you want to come? Seriously? You are invited if you can get your way to where I live, I would love to met you!

Why don't you just send me an electronic version of your invitation and I will do my best to come 😉 I am sure it will be interesting!

" Scorp Queen READ ok, quit assuming-READ you did not one time hear me say I was MARRYING a CANCER man! READ why don't you quit assuming."

I CAN READ cookiemonster!!!! CAN YOU? I know you are marrying the guy who's daughter saw you in the club with the cancer dude & then dumped your ass!!!! Let explain for you what you can't comprehend.....if you already cheated on the guy you are marrying FOR THE CANCER GUY IN THE PAST what makes you think you will not leave when the next best thing comes along?

NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND? Or do I need to write it in another language?

Well cookiemonster YOU OBVIOUSLY haven't read enough, like I told you, you are beneath me I thought me and your conversation was over a long time ago! I already told you, you cannot call a KETTLE BLACK when you are trying to get a married man to leave his wife.

YOU are in love with a MARRIED man, you came on the posts to seek validation like a typical Scorp to see who would agree with YOU and tell you to purue a married man who is constantly telling YOU he is in love with his "wife" their relationship is BETTER than ever and I told you a Cancer man was pursuing me but I LEFT it alone because of push pull thing with them. I MY MIND if a man is pushing away from ME, I am putting way to much effort in what he is trying to tell me instead of relazing that he just sees me as-a date!

I can READ through mixed signals. MEN will DATE you for years. Most men don't RUSH into a "instant relationship".

I am simply telling women to just be yourself and do what you do, live your life and do what makes YOU happy. I tell them THEY don't have to do anything to try to "keep" ANY man because all you are doing is using unecessary ENERGY on someone who is not fully committed to you. Oh and I am so wrong, I don't know what I am taking about, Oh men just LOVE women who give their hearts away to BS!

Why don't you just send me an electronic version of your invitation and I will do my best to come I am sure it will be interesting!

You fail to realize, I don't HAVE to prove myself worthy to you. If you want to come, you are invited though!

Lady_Taurus I also want you to come and see my home and my cars and how a really loving wonderful relationship- without dating drama- should be.

"I am simply telling women to just be yourself and do what you do, live your life and do what makes YOU happy."

Well that's what I was saying from the beginning and you were contradicting me, causing this argument. A woman being herself will do the things that she feels is deserved. If she wants to cook for her man, because she loves to cook or he is hungry, she is being herself, not weak; if she wants to message her man's feet every night because she feels that he works hard and deserves it, then she is being herself and not being desperate; if she wants to give him affection, and call him everyday, just because she wants to, then she is being herself because she is doing what she feels like doing.

"I tell them THEY don't have to do anything to try to "keep" ANY man"

Playing hard, treating a man badly to get his attention and to gain control, avoiding his calls to keep him calling are all ways of trying to keep a man. They are games.
Some WOMEN, do things because of how they are raised. Some woman were raised to be in the kitchen, to clean and to act like a potential wife but doing these things when she feels is deserved are not her ways to try to keep a man. However, if a woman realises that her man is abusing and using her ways of treating him it is HER choice to leave him.

To tell a woman that she is weak because she loves her man and treats him accordingly is absolute rubbish!

WOMEN have the choice to decide whether their situation is unhealthy and will therefore know when to pull the plug. You or no one else can tell them differently. Especially when you Krobe are not practising what you preach!

"You fail to realize, I don't HAVE to prove myself worthy to you. If you want to come, you are invited though!"

Well you are inviting me right? Well I need an address... or will it be held here in DXP. Just let me know which board. Will it be the Leo, Capricorn or Cancer board?

"Lady_Taurus I also want you to come and see my home and my cars and how a really loving wonderful relationship- without dating drama- should be."

LOL... thanks for your great concern... but I am most confident that anything you have I am not lacking. That's for sure!

Besides... after 12 years... I would hope that the dating stage is over. 12 years should be enough time to know your partner inside out and should therefore leave no room for insecurities and bad treatment to gain control.

12 years should be the love stage where you all enjoy EACHOTHER, where you should have no problem cooking or cleaning for your man because you know he is yours. Shiat! After 12 years... there is no need for marriage. You've already got everything, all these years, a piece of paper should mean nothing.

"Lady T - that's her way of getting you in front of her so she can beat your a $ $ for calling her out. LOL"

LOL Scorp... if she could. Unlike her I can back up my words with actions. Besides...I won't be getting that invitation no time soon so there is nothing to worry about.

"Funny how you give all this advice to women on how to act like a liberated woman but you look for lots of gifts. Bottom line, you're a cheater!!! and now you are settling for the only person who will put up with your butch brod behavior."

Real talk Scorp... real talk! LOL LOL

"Funny how you give all this advice to women on how to act like a liberated woman but you look for lots of gifts. Bottom line, you're a cheater!!! and now you are settling for the only person who will put up with your butch brod behavior."

I have to laugh at this again LOL LOL!!!!! LOL LOL!!!!!

I-N-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-C-E!

Couldn't find a stronger woman than the one whom possesses it!