Would this annoy you? (venting)

First of all I love Cancers. And I'm sorry some people make the sun sign look bad.
So,
A 13 year old cousin: cancer sun, aries moon
Deals with her temperament by crying. Which I do too a lot. But I don't like that she uses it against people.
Sometimes, I feel like she isn't even as sad as her tears; passive aggressively "threatening" that they must do what she says or she will cry. Her taurus dad doesn't even give a shit anymore xD
But everyone else changes their behavior to appease her. It's so annoying. Like,.. you're seriously gonna let her cheat in the game?
She literally was about to be in tears just because she lost a game of cards.
It happens with almost every game.

It's not the emotional part that annoys me at all. It's more the reason behind it.

"Oh you got a low number on the dice"
Her- "NOOO DON'T DO THIS TO ME!!!!!" (I wish I was exaggerating.)

e__e ugh..
(It looks like she just reacts to what her Aries feels.)

she tends to be rude, but can't take it herself.
especially to her piscean sun&moon little brother >:c hmpff poor boy

[Also, I know everyone is different apart from the signs, and it's in your power how you use the signs]

idk I think a watery moon would find this annoying.

I blame her Aries moon. My Aries niece and Aries ex mil are very manipulative in that exact same way: crocodile tears if they don't get their way, over the top show of drama emotions at the drop of a hat if you call them out on bad behavior. I also blame the adults in her life, because they let her get away with that kind of behavior.

I'm cancer sun/moon and even as a kid I wouldn't let anyone catch me crying. In fact, I'd do everything to channel it into anger, including digging my nails into my ribs and biting my hand.

She sounds like your family is molding her into a manipulative bitch with the way they allow her to act and passively encourage it. Her dad sounds like the only reasonable one.

Posted by duchesslibro
She sounds like your family is molding her into a manipulative bitch with the way they allow her to act and passively encourage it. Her dad sounds like the only reasonable one.

omggg I was so mad I wanted to smack her; but now I see that was a normal reaction from me xD thanks~
I see her once a year so I don't say "harsh" things. Except when she starts complaining, I act as indifferent as a rock. So she doesn't complain much with me and can be very loveable.
Me, her dad, and her brother, act indifferently with the complaining.

As you should. Do not feed the monster.

Even hitting her (not saying you actually would) would be feeding into her bullshit act. She's a Drama Llama in the making.

Posted by MoonArtist
I blame her Aries moon. My Aries niece and Aries ex mil are very manipulative in that exact same way: crocodile tears if they don't get their way, over the top show of drama emotions at the drop of a hat if you call them out on bad behavior. I also blame the adults in her life, because they let her get away with that kind of behavior.

I'm cancer sun/moon and even as a kid I wouldn't let anyone catch me crying. In fact, I'd do everything to channel it into anger, including digging my nails into my ribs and biting my hand.

In that exact same way— o: Wooooww..
Exactly! Over the top emotions she doesn't even feel . It felt like a parody of Cancer which was insulting. Like she doesn't know how to deal with her Aries' needs. So the cancer reacts and she stops making an effort to try and figure it out so it makes for a bad habit.

She does stand up for me even if I don't need it...xD In casual conversation hahah
She tends to mimic what I do, and looks up to me in a way..

I was soothing her little brother one time and she followed my lead and also tried to make him feel better. It felt genuine. [:

But I do want to smack some perspective in when she uses fake emotions. =__=;;

Wow same ;__; I wish you didn't need to bite your hand and stuff. I also felt like my parents told me my emotions were "not ok" growing up so I tried to hide it even though I was crumbling.
Perhaps this over-the-top emotion thing kind of makes a statement to those who want to repress it so badly. Her dad (taurus sun) has expressed that "feely" stuff is "weak" and bothers the pisces son with that. Then she steps in and makes a bigger drama. xD So he just accepts it.

Posted by RumiLove
This reminded me of my cousin... She was dramatic! We all would play cards, and if she lost - shed just stop playing. And without a reason she would sulk, she would just be dramatic and refuse to eat. We all would plead/coax her, my grandma used to feed her and stiill she would go about sulking. It just...brought down the festive mood of family gathering.

Anyway, I sort of agree with Duchess, but, my cousin acted this way until she got married lol! And her parents would keep telling her to be mannered etc...but I guess my grandparents and my mother's "concern and pacifying ways" made her act that way haha..

Maybe your cousin behaves like that when she sees her relatives? Some kids are more dramatic especially when they're with relatives...

Edit - excuse my English!

hm "when she sees her relatives"...that's a really good hypothesis. *Claps*
ahhh if somebody wants to sulk just let them D”¹ "Appeasing" them and offering them stuff sends the wrong message when the reason they're upset is petty. I know you know that but gosh darn it xD I was venting about how most relatives react around my cousin too.
Except instead of sulking, she yells at how everyone is "unfair to her" >_>...at least it makes the stupidity more obvious.
xDD
but holy shit...you know... I think the enablers are more annoying.

Btw, your english is great. It looks like your first language.

Posted by duchesslibro
Even hitting her (not saying you actually would) would be feeding into her bullshit act. She's a Drama Llama in the making.

A punch bag would be great for my own emotions to deal with xD but yeah hitting wouldn't be good anyway even if it did temporarily work. Although it never does work '-' Even on the nice kids.
I agree though. She acts tough and know-it-all but she has a tantrum when someone even mildly points out she isn't perfect. (which is very weak)

Geez, I hope she gains more perspective with time.

Worst thing is, her dad and mine actually said she's "smart". Because she never shuts her mouth. And talks about "everything" (Mostly quoting the internet). But they don't recognize internet quotes.. I want to facepalm so hard right now.

Does she have Leo placements in her chart? Putting on a show etc

Posted by duchesslibro
As you should. Do not feed the monster.

Thanks dearie ;w;..”¹3 It feels good that you also view logic as reasonable...

my dad complains to me and says that I "acted wrong with the person because I didn't try to please" them. In multiple situations. That kind of thinking made me too cautious and afraid. But my friends have helped me through it. His sun is in Libra and moon in Pisces.

I've noticed this: There's a bold line between worry, and calculation.

I won't try to change my dad though..
But I've actually seen a lot of other Libras that don't take shit and they preach about caring for yourself. A lot of them I look up to.

Example: Eminem :3

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Does she have Leo placements in her chart? Putting on a show etc

Mercury- Gemini
Mars- Cancer
Venus- Leo (oh god..my mom has that. Shit..why..T_T)
Saturn- Gemini

Idk..if leo is in a planet other than the sun...i feel like it overwhelms the placement too much and these people don't know what to do so the overreact.
It's interesting that her mercury and Saturn are in Gemini though.
Challenges with communication?
fk

her chart even seems "whiny" ..

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I blame her Aries moon. My Aries niece and Aries ex mil are very manipulative in that exact same way: crocodile tears if they don't get their way, over the top show of drama emotions at the drop of a hat if you call them out on bad behavior. I also blame the adults in her life, because they let her get away with that kind of behavior.

I'm cancer sun/moon and even as a kid I wouldn't let anyone catch me crying. In fact, I'd do everything to channel it into anger, including digging my nails into my ribs and biting my hand.

In that exact same way— o: Wooooww..
Exactly! Over the top emotions she doesn't even feel . It felt like a parody of Cancer which was insulting. Like she doesn't know how to deal with her Aries' needs. So the cancer reacts and she stops making an effort to try and figure it out so it makes for a bad habit.

She does stand up for me even if I don't need it...xD In casual conversation hahah
She tends to mimic what I do, and looks up to me in a way..

I was soothing her little brother one time and she followed my lead and also tried to make him feel better. It felt genuine. [:

But I do want to smack some perspective in when she uses fake emotions. =__=;;

Wow same ;__; I wish you didn't need to bite your hand and stuff. I also felt like my parents told me my emotions were "not ok" growing up so I tried to hide it even though I was crumbling.
Perhaps this over-the-top emotion thing kind of makes a statement to those who want to repress it so badly. Her dad (taurus sun) has expressed that "feely" stuff is "weak" and bothers the pisces son with that. Then she steps in and makes a bigger drama. xD So he just accepts it.

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Yep, the exact same way. This isn't a cancer thing as much as it is an Aries thing, and it's not even about the emotions, she's using that to manipulate to get her way. Bad side of Aries is they can be selfish, love to have their way, want to be center of attention. If they don't learn to master their negative traits they become those negative traits. Cancer might be loaded with fluctuating emotions but we try to hide the hell out of it because that would be showing vulnerability (crab shell is there for a reason!!), so myself, I've always hidden emotional displays from others unless I trust them.

It's funny that everyone buys into the "cancer is the crybaby" of the zodiac bs, because we're actually not crybaby's.....at least not to those watching. We learn very early on how to keep it in, keep it hidden and find other ways of riding our emotional waves. The hand biting and nails in the ribs was my way of distracting myself from the emotions with a physical stimulus, and it worked, it kept my focus on

It's funny that everyone buys into the "cancer is the crybaby" of the zodiac bs, because we're actually not crybaby's.....at least not to those watching. We learn very early on how to keep it in, keep it hidden and find other ways of riding our emotional waves. The hand biting and nails in the ribs was my way of distracting myself from the emotions with a physical stimulus, and it worked, it kept my focus on the pain so I wouldn't let anyone see me cry, or hurt. I still do it, when needed.

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OP, your writing style is that of a creepy man posing as a young girl.

It's pretty gross, dude.

Creepy man had to learn it from somewhere. Not my fault that's where your mind goes to with emojis.

Ruuudee..

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OP, your writing style is that of a creepy man posing as a young girl.

It's pretty gross, dude.

You think?

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Nah. OP seems young too.

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It's funny that everyone buys into the "cancer is the crybaby" of the zodiac bs, because we're actually not crybaby's.....at least not to those watching. We learn very early on how to keep it in, keep it hidden and find other ways of riding our emotional waves. The hand biting and nails in the ribs was my way of distracting myself from the emotions with a physical stimulus, and it worked, it kept my focus on the pain so I wouldn't let anyone see me cry, or hurt. I still do it, when needed.

She is only 13 though. And we are hearing from another family member who is 22. I think come back to me in 5 yrs and then if she is still that bad. Different kids mature differently. She is just a kid. Over analyzing her at 22 is not fair.

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Bad behavior starts somewhere. Thirteen doesn't make it ok. At this point it's on her parents for sure though. They should nip that shit asap.

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It's funny that everyone buys into the "cancer is the crybaby" of the zodiac bs, because we're actually not crybaby's.....at least not to those watching. We learn very early on how to keep it in, keep it hidden and find other ways of riding our emotional waves. The hand biting and nails in the ribs was my way of distracting myself from the emotions with a physical stimulus, and it worked, it kept my focus on the pain so I wouldn't let anyone see me cry, or hurt. I still do it, when needed.

She is only 13 though. And we are hearing from another family member who is 22. I think come back to me in 5 yrs and then if she is still that bad. Different kids mature differently. She is just a kid. Over analyzing her at 22 is not fair.

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Kids aren't much different than animals. They're a product of their training. This kid's natural inclination is to seek attention and manipulate, if she's being coddled for her bad behavior she'll grow up to be a manipulative adult. This goes for everyone, because every sign has their good traits and bad traits. Foster the good, or foster the bad, and that's what the end product will be. It's that simple.

Yep, the exact same way. This isn't a cancer thing as much as it is an Aries thing, and it's not even about the emotions, she's using that to manipulate to get her way. Bad side of Aries is they can be selfish, love to have their way, want to be center of attention. If they don't learn to master their negative traits they become those negative traits. Cancer might be loaded with fluctuating emotions but we try to hide the hell out of it because that would be showing vulnerability (crab shell is there for a reason!!), so myself, I've always hidden emotional displays from others unless I trust them.

It's funny that everyone buys into the "cancer is the crybaby" of the zodiac bs, because we're actually not crybaby's.....at least not to those watching. We learn very early on how to keep it in, keep it hidden and find other ways of riding our emotional waves. The hand biting and nails in the ribs was my way of distracting myself from the emotions with a physical stimulus, and it worked, it kept my focus on

Honestly, I have seen more (bratty) Aries suns throw a tantrum than Cancer suns. I know they're supposed to represent "confidence" but the unevolved ones seem very fragile to me. Unless they're already feeling confident, I don't want to be too honest with them or else they throw a fit. It's not that I can't handle them it's just...why try and get your point across to someone who isn't listening xD :

Cancer suns are highly tuned to sensitivity but that isn't a synonym for "weak" at all. Sensitivity is the sniper of figuring out what's bothering you.
As for Aries..I do admire them putting themselves out there and standing up like they're cool even after falling down the stairs xDD That actually makes em' cool.

Lol it looks like I'm "talkin' shit" and I'm the 3d Decan Leo xDD (Aries/Leo)

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It's funny that everyone buys into the "cancer is the crybaby" of the zodiac bs, because we're actually not crybaby's.....at least not to those watching. We learn very early on how to keep it in, keep it hidden and find other ways of riding our emotional waves. The hand biting and nails in the ribs was my way of distracting myself from the emotions with a physical stimulus, and it worked, it kept my focus on the pain so I wouldn't let anyone see me cry, or hurt. I still do it, when needed.

She is only 13 though. And we are hearing from another family member who is 22. I think come back to me in 5 yrs and then if she is still that bad. Different kids mature differently. She is just a kid. Over analyzing her at 22 is not fair.

Kids aren't much different than animals. They're a product of their training. This kid's natural inclination is to seek attention and manipulate, if she's being coddled for her bad behavior she'll grow up to be a manipulative adult. This goes for everyone, because every sign has their good traits and bad traits. Foster the good, or foster the bad, and that's what the end product will be. It's that simple.

We are not her parents. Leave it to them. It's their blood right.

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With all due respect, I don't think getting hit by my mom was a blood right. So..it really all does depend. I know your intentions are good though.

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It's funny that everyone buys into the "cancer is the crybaby" of the zodiac bs, because we're actually not crybaby's.....at least not to those watching. We learn very early on how to keep it in, keep it hidden and find other ways of riding our emotional waves. The hand biting and nails in the ribs was my way of distracting myself from the emotions with a physical stimulus, and it worked, it kept my focus on the pain so I wouldn't let anyone see me cry, or hurt. I still do it, when needed.

She is only 13 though. And we are hearing from another family member who is 22. I think come back to me in 5 yrs and then if she is still that bad. Different kids mature differently. She is just a kid. Over analyzing her at 22 is not fair.

Bad behavior starts somewhere. Thirteen doesn't make it ok. At this point it's on her parents for sure though. They should nip that shit asap.

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I was going to say that hehe ^^

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It's funny that everyone buys into the "cancer is the crybaby" of the zodiac bs, because we're actually not crybaby's.....at least not to those watching. We learn very early on how to keep it in, keep it hidden and find other ways of riding our emotional waves. The hand biting and nails in the ribs was my way of distracting myself from the emotions with a physical stimulus, and it worked, it kept my focus on the pain so I wouldn't let anyone see me cry, or hurt. I still do it, when needed.

She is only 13 though. And we are hearing from another family member who is 22. I think come back to me in 5 yrs and then if she is still that bad. Different kids mature differently. She is just a kid. Over analyzing her at 22 is not fair.

Bad behavior starts somewhere. Thirteen doesn't make it ok. At this point it's on her parents for sure though. They should nip that shit asap.

I was going to say that hehe ^^

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You should say it to her parents.

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It's funny that everyone buys into the "cancer is the crybaby" of the zodiac bs, because we're actually not crybaby's.....at least not to those watching. We learn very early on how to keep it in, keep it hidden and find other ways of riding our emotional waves. The hand biting and nails in the ribs was my way of distracting myself from the emotions with a physical stimulus, and it worked, it kept my focus on the pain so I wouldn't let anyone see me cry, or hurt. I still do it, when needed.

She is only 13 though. And we are hearing from another family member who is 22. I think come back to me in 5 yrs and then if she is still that bad. Different kids mature differently. She is just a kid. Over analyzing her at 22 is not fair.

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Lol, I thought someone was gon'na say that at some point. Seeing the "13" and not reading the rest. Something bothered me so I pin-pointed it. Anyway, being 13 doesn't excuse her abusing the emotion-act. Would you over-look a 5 year old boy who tortures animals?

I know and have seen people over-react in the same way well over their 40's

And she's um, 13. I think it's odd you're venting about a girl who is going through puberty and has 1,000 emotions a day? And you see her once a year... this is all odd to me. I mean, she sounds like a nightmare, but girls are highly volatile with their feelings at this age. They don't even know why they are having the moods they're having.

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lol I wrote so much but other messages appeared as mine

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And she's um, 13. I think it's odd you're venting about a girl who is going through puberty and has 1,000 emotions a day? And you see her once a year... this is all odd to me. I mean, she sounds like a nightmare, but girls are highly volatile with their feelings at this age. They don't even know why they are having the moods they're having.

Puberty. I get it. Still not an excuse to manipulate people.

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I hid a message ..I had a funny feeling it was going to get me into a pointless row....

I read them 😐 Oh ok. Forgive me for not imitating Taylor Swift videos because of my age.

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It's funny that everyone buys into the "cancer is the crybaby" of the zodiac bs, because we're actually not crybaby's.....at least not to those watching. We learn very early on how to keep it in, keep it hidden and find other ways of riding our emotional waves. The hand biting and nails in the ribs was my way of distracting myself from the emotions with a physical stimulus, and it worked, it kept my focus on the pain so I wouldn't let anyone see me cry, or hurt. I still do it, when needed.

She is only 13 though. And we are hearing from another family member who is 22. I think come back to me in 5 yrs and then if she is still that bad. Different kids mature differently. She is just a kid. Over analyzing her at 22 is not fair.

Kids aren't much different than animals. They're a product of their training. This kid's natural inclination is to seek attention and manipulate, if she's being coddled for her bad behavior she'll grow up to be a manipulative adult. This goes for everyone, because every sign has their good traits and bad traits. Foster the good, or foster the bad, and that's what the end product will be. It's that simple.

We are not her parents. Leave it to them. It's their blood right.

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Did I say I was raising her? I didn't, so yes, it's on them to do the work. That has nothing to do with the point I made, which is people will turn out the way they're raised. Feed the bad behavior and you'll have a bad product, etc.

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And she's um, 13. I think it's odd you're venting about a girl who is going through puberty and has 1,000 emotions a day? And you see her once a year... this is all odd to me. I mean, she sounds like a nightmare, but girls are highly volatile with their feelings at this age. They don't even know why they are having the moods they're having.

I have to vent -__-; It'd be "odder" if I kept it all in when it was in my mind already. I just hate manipulation and it's like you didn't even read anything just because of an age. "That kid is torturing animals! Ohh..he's five. He'll probably won't as he gets older " ._. ..

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It's funny that everyone buys into the "cancer is the crybaby" of the zodiac bs, because we're actually not crybaby's.....at least not to those watching. We learn very early on how to keep it in, keep it hidden and find other ways of riding our emotional waves. The hand biting and nails in the ribs was my way of distracting myself from the emotions with a physical stimulus, and it worked, it kept my focus on the pain so I wouldn't let anyone see me cry, or hurt. I still do it, when needed.

She is only 13 though. And we are hearing from another family member who is 22. I think come back to me in 5 yrs and then if she is still that bad. Different kids mature differently. She is just a kid. Over analyzing her at 22 is not fair.

Kids aren't much different than animals. They're a product of their training. This kid's natural inclination is to seek attention and manipulate, if she's being coddled for her bad behavior she'll grow up to be a manipulative adult. This goes for everyone, because every sign has their good traits and bad traits. Foster the good, or foster the bad, and that's what the end product will be. It's that simple.

We are not her parents. Leave it to them. It's their blood right.

Did I say I was raising her? I didn't, so yes, it's on them to do the work. That has nothing to do with the point I made, which is people will turn out the way they're raised. Feed the bad behavior and you'll have a bad product, etc.

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Exactly -w- -sigh-..thanks for listening to what I was talking about and not letting other things distract you. I'm amazed at the "oh she's 13 she'll grow out of it"..
That's what actually feeds the soul-sucking behaviour

She might be a brat, but that's how she's being raised to be. I've witnessed my niece back talk, cuss out adults, including her parents and grandparents, and it's allowed. She's been coddled while throwing tantrums, gets away with lying, does the mean girl thing to get kids to go with what she wants......and it's allowed by those who are in charge of her. My prediction is she'll be the kind of person who I avoid like the plague when she grows up: narcissistic, selfish, manipulative, because that's how she was raised. She's also 13 now, and she has few friends at school, because the other kids don't like her and don't put up with the bullying.

You know what the funny thing is?? I don't even HAVE KIDS!!!!

you don't need to

OP, I've done my share of major venting to friends and family about my niece. She started when she was 2.....and now she's 13, she's getting better at hiding her manipulation games, but this is who she is thanks to her parents. I raised my kids differently, because I want them to grow up and be people I enjoy talking to, who I'm proud to say I know and love, and who make the world a better place.

And FYI, my horses and dogs are well behaved because I trained them in a fair and consistent way, too.

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She might be a brat, but that's how she's being raised to be. I've witnessed my niece back talk, cuss out adults, including her parents and grandparents, and it's allowed. She's been coddled while throwing tantrums, gets away with lying, does the mean girl thing to get kids to go with what she wants......and it's allowed by those who are in charge of her. My prediction is she'll be the kind of person who I avoid like the plague when she grows up: narcissistic, selfish, manipulative, because that's how she was raised. She's also 13 now, and she has few friends at school, because the other kids don't like her and don't put up with the bullying.

Daaamnn cuss out adults?! ..a-allowed..her grandparents?..x.x #RIP And she is also 13 now and you've witnessed this..I feel your pain. -_-;; Good thing the other kids don't put up with the bullying c: and that those who do later on realize it.

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She's a kid. • And I'm fairly sure she's a product of her own enviornment. She gets a pass for now. Come back when she's garnered enough life experience (say late teens early twenties).

It's pretty much what I am trying to say.

Oh we agree? Yaay ƒ„

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I know that. It is blatantly obvious. Something just irked me..

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She's a kid. • And I'm fairly sure she's a product of her own enviornment. She gets a pass for now. Come back when she's garnered enough life experience (say late teens early twenties).

It's pretty much what I am trying to say.

Oh we agree? Yaay ƒ„

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I'd like to see your reaction when someone repeats internet memes to you all day and then copies you in things before claiming it as their own idea =__o..*eye twitch* It's like..what you usually love is just abused.. T_T

And then witnessing them actually forcing themselves to cry because they didn't win a card game.

Rly?

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She's a kid. • And I'm fairly sure she's a product of her own enviornment. She gets a pass for now. Come back when she's garnered enough life experience (say late teens early twenties).

It's pretty much what I am trying to say.

Oh we agree? Yaay ƒ„

I know that. It is blatantly obvious. Something just irked me..

If you know that then why are you letting a kid bother you? She really doesn't know any better. It's actually unfortunate. replace irritation with consideration. ‰

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I did , 2 weeks ago. It lasted for 5 minutes. If I were to act considerate I'd be lying, I'm more like..venting.

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I am telling you, some 53 year old fatso with hair on his back is SalamanderCandy.

Creepy stuff.

I am keeping out of this from this point forward.

k bye

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She might be a brat, but that's how she's being raised to be. I've witnessed my niece back talk, cuss out adults, including her parents and grandparents, and it's allowed. She's been coddled while throwing tantrums, gets away with lying, does the mean girl thing to get kids to go with what she wants......and it's allowed by those who are in charge of her. My prediction is she'll be the kind of person who I avoid like the plague when she grows up: narcissistic, selfish, manipulative, because that's how she was raised. She's also 13 now, and she has few friends at school, because the other kids don't like her and don't put up with the bullying.

Daaamnn cuss out adults?! ..a-allowed..her grandparents?..x.x #RIP And she is also 13 now and you've witnessed this..I feel your pain. -_-;; Good thing the other kids don't put up with the bullying c: and that those who do later on realize it.

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Yep, I've seen it. Before I left my ex I lived on the same property (the compound) as her, the grandparents, her parents. Her little sister (also aries) is turning out a lot like her. I tried being a positive influence in her life but her grandma didn't like it so she started telling her that I hate her, and my niece (then 4) would blurt out "why do you hate me?" at the dinner table, and I would have to explain that I don't hate her, and ask why she thought I did (never did get an answer to that). Between not wanting to be around her bratty behavior, and not willing to let my mil use me in a sick game of play favorites, I backed off and did less and less with the whole family. The dysfunction there is off the charts, this is what the niece is raised to be, and so she'll grow to be a horrid adult just like them. There's a slim chance she'll have some breakthru moment in life where she sees herself for what she is, decided to change things, but it's hard and rare for humans to do that, so I won't hold my breath. I don't envy her parents when she hits 16, though. HA! That's going to be a clusterfuck.

Posted by busyeyes88
I am a taurus and had a cancer friend and everything about her was "tea and sympathy ".. She used people alot and was very manipulative and extremely clingy. I couldn't cope with her in the end so I terminated our friendship by telling her some home truths about herself and slowly fading out....

LOL xDD I want to fade out too
You embraced "idgaf" lol xDD yeah, people have to deal with themselves regardless of the "victim" act. I'm sure it applies to many signs and people

Posted by MoonArtist
OP, I've done my share of major venting to friends and family about my niece. She started when she was 2.....and now she's 13, she's getting better at hiding her manipulation games, but this is who she is thanks to her parents. I raised my kids differently, because I want them to grow up and be people I enjoy talking to, who I'm proud to say I know and love, and who make the world a better place.

And FYI, my horses and dogs are well behaved because I trained them in a fair and consistent way, too.

Wow now I feel understood by someone with great experience. :'3 Thank you”¹3 I adore animals. The wild also reminds me of core behavioral principles just by..nature heh. If I can't vent to face to face people, I'll use a word document xD This thread has helped me a lot honestly. I feel so much better now (: Thanks a lot

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She's a kid. • And I'm fairly sure she's a product of her own enviornment. She gets a pass for now. Come back when she's garnered enough life experience (say late teens early twenties).

It's pretty much what I am trying to say.

Oh we agree? Yaay ƒ„

I know that. It is blatantly obvious. Something just irked me..

If you know that then why are you letting a kid bother you? She really doesn't know any better. It's actually unfortunate. replace irritation with consideration. ‰

I did , 2 weeks ago. It lasted for 5 minutes. If I were to act considerate I'd be lying, I'm more like..venting.

That sounds like an excuse on you part. I get that you want to vent. That's cool. Except you're venting about the actions of an immature kid who's a product of her own environment. It's really not her fault she was raised so poorly.

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But now you're venting about me venting about the result of her environment. Which is a result of my environment.

It's a vicious cycle..
plz, save urself; plz b0ss

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OP, I've done my share of major venting to friends and family about my niece. She started when she was 2.....and now she's 13, she's getting better at hiding her manipulation games, but this is who she is thanks to her parents. I raised my kids differently, because I want them to grow up and be people I enjoy talking to, who I'm proud to say I know and love, and who make the world a better place.

And FYI, my horses and dogs are well behaved because I trained them in a fair and consistent way, too.

Wow now I feel understood by someone with great experience. :'3 Thank you”¹3 I adore animals. The wild also reminds me of core behavioral principles just by..nature heh. If I can't vent to face to face people, I'll use a word document xD This thread has helped me a lot honestly. I feel so much better now (: Thanks a lot

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Reward her good moments when you see her good traits honestly shining through. Ignore her when she's being horrid. That's all you can do since she's not your kid She's more common than you'd think, unfortunately. Asshole adults don't just instantly become assholes, they were raised to be assholes. She's an asshole in training. 😛

Posted by DonnaElvira77
I can out brat any kid. They don't scare me. :-P

No actually they do!

That might actually work xDD lmfao
I'll just get my inner Arianna Grande out

xD "Oh gee gollers, I don't know what the problem is but I'm scaauurdd (scared) *bats eyelashes* "
lmfao

I haven't been rude to the kid face to face btw. I did enjoy moments and you guys have brought out a good point to care a little less

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OP, I've done my share of major venting to friends and family about my niece. She started when she was 2.....and now she's 13, she's getting better at hiding her manipulation games, but this is who she is thanks to her parents. I raised my kids differently, because I want them to grow up and be people I enjoy talking to, who I'm proud to say I know and love, and who make the world a better place.

And FYI, my horses and dogs are well behaved because I trained them in a fair and consistent way, too.

Wow now I feel understood by someone with great experience. :'3 Thank you”¹3 I adore animals. The wild also reminds me of core behavioral principles just by..nature heh. If I can't vent to face to face people, I'll use a word document xD This thread has helped me a lot honestly. I feel so much better now (: Thanks a lot

Reward her good moments when you see her good traits honestly shining through. Ignore her when she's being horrid. That's all you can do since she's not your kid She's more common than you'd think, unfortunately. Asshole adults don't just instantly become assholes, they were raised to be assholes. She's an asshole in training. 😛

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It's what I've been doing :3 It was all genuine to be honest. When I had a good time. And I'm good at reading the behaviour of "not getting what I want". So when that happened, I just ignored it.
The people around is what bothered me though. Changing their behavior so they feel less uncomfortable with a reaction. ”¹--

Hm..she does understand she has to respect adults, so throwing a tantrum may be her own little loophole

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Posted by ramengirl
She's a kid. • And I'm fairly sure she's a product of her own enviornment. She gets a pass for now. Come back when she's garnered enough life experience (say late teens early twenties).

It's pretty much what I am trying to say.

Oh we agree? Yaay ƒ„

I know that. It is blatantly obvious. Something just irked me..

If you know that then why are you letting a kid bother you? She really doesn't know any better. It's actually unfortunate. replace irritation with consideration. ‰

I did , 2 weeks ago. It lasted for 5 minutes. If I were to act considerate I'd be lying, I'm more like..venting.

That sounds like an excuse on you part. I get that you want to vent. That's cool. Except you're venting about the actions of an immature kid who's a product of her own environment. It's really not her fault she was raised so poorly.

But now you're venting about me venting about the result of her environment. Which is a result of my environment.

It's a vicious cycle..
plz, save urself; plz b0ss

Venting? nah. You make a post, I respond. I'm not trying to save you (why would I try to do that?). I'm just giving my two cents like everyone else.

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I said "save urself" urself= yourself
Depends what you mean by venting. Technically, it can all be venting if there's a need to express something without being 100% happy. It's just a different degree. ^^ A matter of a sentence.
Also, I was just teasing u

Posted by ramengirl
@SalamanderCandy Deep...®

Venting is getting something off your chest; blowing off steam per say. That is the context we're using right? If that's the context then I'm not really venting; I'm giving an opinion.

I don't like to be teased. If I want the steak gimme the steak! ¬

But I liiiike teasing a little bit~ plz play with me ;-;
lol xD ahh..You know everyone in this thread, I'd give you steak. I like to feed the people I care for. Even if we talked a little bit you still cared for my thread :`P

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@SalamanderCandy Deep...®

Venting is getting something off your chest; blowing off steam per say. That is the context we're using right? If that's the context then I'm not really venting; I'm giving an opinion.

I don't like to be teased. If I want the steak gimme the steak! ¬

But I liiiike teasing a little bit~ plz play with me ;-;
lol xD ahh..You know everyone in this thread, I'd give you steak. I like to feed the people I care for. Even if we talked a little bit you still cared for my thread :`P

¢ here come the water works...

So darn nice. I will gladly play along (after my steak) ƒ

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You can eat as much ramen as you'd like, too;__; and if a 13 year old attacks you for some reason, i'm ur bae

Holy shit guys, thanks for all the replies ;_; ”¹3

Posted by SalamanderCandy

Yep, the exact same way. This isn't a cancer thing as much as it is an Aries thing, and it's not even about the emotions, she's using that to manipulate to get her way. Bad side of Aries is they can be selfish, love to have their way, want to be center of attention. If they don't learn to master their negative traits they become those negative traits. Cancer might be loaded with fluctuating emotions but we try to hide the hell out of it because that would be showing vulnerability (crab shell is there for a reason!!), so myself, I've always hidden emotional displays from others unless I trust them.

It's funny that everyone buys into the "cancer is the crybaby" of the zodiac bs, because we're actually not crybaby's.....at least not to those watching. We learn very early on how to keep it in, keep it hidden and find other ways of riding our emotional waves. The hand biting and nails in the ribs was my way of distracting myself from the emotions with a physical stimulus, and it worked, it kept my focus on

Honestly, I have seen more (bratty) Aries suns throw a tantrum than Cancer suns. I know they're supposed to represent "confidence" but the unevolved ones seem very fragile to me. Unless they're already feeling confident, I don't want to be too honest with them or else they throw a fit. It's not that I can't handle them it's just...why try and get your point across to someone who isn't listening xD :

Cancer suns are highly tuned to sensitivity but that isn't a synonym for "weak" at all. Sensitivity is the sniper of figuring out what's bothering you.
As for Aries..I do admire them putting themselves out there and standing up like they're cool even after falling down the stairs xDD That actually makes em' cool.

Lol it looks like I'm "talkin' shit" and I'm the 3d Decan Leo xDD (Aries/Leo)

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(Cocks rifle) Did someone say Sniper?