Caps arent meant to open up.

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I've been making a conscious effort to express my emotions instead of burying them inside and masking them with a smile for about 3 months now and its inhuman .... uncapricorn. I've gotten to the point of being able to let the dam break just by asking myself how i'm really feeling at the momment and even thought at times the energy is re-assuring and playful, shit is beggining to hit the fan... Fucken saturn and your obsticles, lessons and karmic debt paying ways... the frustration of having to struggle so much brings forth so much fatigue its unbearable. I used to be able to say to my fatigue "youre a little bitch, watch me finish my goal and exceed it 3 times while barly being able to hold a smile." And now even though the same resolution and performance at work remains... at times i type with tears flowing... Eventually i thought if i let the emotions run freely i believed that as everything was expressed there would be just peace but it seems that there will always be this nagging thorn, cold whispering saying... "Nothing will ever be enough, you will never feel worthy, no matter how much you achieve." Fuck the experiment, its unnatural im going back to how things were.
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Posted by cheekyfaerie
Posted by CluelessCancer
Disappointments come and go, but you can never be truly fulfilled with putting up walls.



+1

The problem is that even when i make an effort to be more open, every misstep on the other person's part chips away at all my good intentions.

I know you're right, but it's a work in progress.
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This is how I am. My wall goes back up sometimes and its like starting from scratch for the person.
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our dark moods are our worst... not sure about everyone else, but i scare myself with mine. fear and loath them. i can't expect another person to cope with it any better.

not to mention... most of the time we're independent, fiercely self-sufficient types. that's what people are accustomed to with us. to go from that to purging our darkest in front of someone, while emitting this need to them that they have to help us in some way ...can you imagine the shock?

there are great advantages to our strengths and also some disadvantages. i've become accustomed to the fact that there are only few appropriate moments to bare all (or most of what's necessary) and say what's on my mind with only the expectation that the person simply listens.

nobody else needs to carry the burden of my emotions but me. the expectation that even a close friend should sympathize is, i realize, unfair.

i try to share the good things, funny or self-depricating. but anything negative... i tend to let someone ask for it. lol no signs, no cues, no fishing... i handle my personal matters and if someone asks... i'll share the bad in a way that denotes, "i've got it handled" ...if someone is instinctive or empathetic enough to understand my difficulties, then perhaps they're good enough to offer more than their ear ...which in and of itself, is enough to let me know they care. anything more is icing on the cake and endears a person to me more.

you just can't have high expectations of people. it's not to say people aren't worth high standards... it just means you can't know every reason for a persons reaction or lack their of.




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however... "people don't care what you know until they know that you care" ...i believe this includes our own personal feelings. kinda the same thing as the golden rule. and those who are worthwhile, in my book, know this. and i try to be action based. i count on myself to be the first to step forward.
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Lucriu
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You make it sound so noble. But the stories of Caps opening up and other signs just not understanding, or even deprecating our emotions are vast. Every Cap has felt betrayed by being weak enough to share the burden they hold to someone who cant possibly comprehend how utterly helpless we feel when we drown within our emotions. My point is that I feel safer and stronger when the dam is holding up. I feel that every time the dam breaks by either stress, circumstances or fatigue we are meant to build it stronger and stronger. I think that you are right when you said

[nobody else needs to carry the burden of my emotions but me. the expectation that even a close friend should sympathize is, i realize, unfair.]

and that it is our curse and gift all in one. We Caps are ruled by Saturn, planet of lessons, discipline, and karma. It literally makes us stronger by punching us in the face, beating us to the ground and us... choosing to get up stronger then before. I believe that that is our true purpose, to become strong with out becoming bitter. To not NEED or feel that we need someone ELSE to understand us, but to come to peace that in the end the only person strong enough to withstand the expression of our fatigue is us. So you can blame it on my Taurus moon, but i'm FIXED to the idea that caps aren't meant to open up
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To each his own and follow your path, believe what you want and all that jazz.
But as a pisces sun & asc, possibly cancer moon too- I need to be understood. "need"

With those I'm the very closest to, at least. I also feel the need to empathize.. To "prove" I can understand Mr. Cap..that he can't scare me away. It fills a hole in me when he confesses some of his nerdier side. (dream analysis, or comics, etc) and says "i hope this doesnt weird you out.." And I can honestly reply "you don't weird me out, try harder".

I'll never claim that I have all the answers or even give the best advice, but I will empathize. I will do my very best to listen and try to understand.. I won't judge. It helps me understand the mood Mr. Cap is in and cut him some slack. I have an open mind and pretty strong shoulders. I "want" to help carry your burdens because I love you & I expect you to want to help carry mine. It makes me feel bonded. *shrug. Take it or leave it.
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Everyone I know has insecurities, but most choose to keep them inside. I choose to open up on purpose to have myself put on the spot. Yes it hurts inside, but after, the healing begins and you suddenly lose the fear. I have quit trying to be accepted. I have worked myself to almost being truly pure and always confident and always in self control. I speak to thousands of people in a week and I always seem to help almost all of them in some type of way.

I am here for you my brother and anyone else that wants to become whole and pure...
I have a heart and I speak from it all time...
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Posted by SureShotCap
Everyone I know has insecurities, but most choose to keep them inside. I choose to open up on purpose to have myself put on the spot. Yes it hurts inside, but after, the healing begins and you suddenly lose the fear. I have quit trying to be accepted. I have worked myself to almost being truly pure and always confident and always in self control. I speak to thousands of people in a week and I always seem to help almost all of them in some type of way.

I am here for you my brother and anyone else that wants to become whole and pure...
I have a heart and I speak from it all time...



*thumbs up*

dunno...but this song seems to pop in my head after that.

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well i was trying to sound "objective" but i'll take noble.

i believe cheeky is right. and i agree with you that we have a knack for not needing to be understood. i think that's one of the more attractive things about us. In other words... we're confident.

but that doesnt mean we can't be understood. or that we have to be so guarded from being misunderstood that we push people away. just be smart about who you are opening up to and how you are sharing yourself.

just be cool... easy... breezy.... lemon squeezy.

it's all about delivery.

also, you believe really intensely that caps aren't meant to open up. that might be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

believe in yourself young padawan 😛
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Posted by CreepyPants
well i was trying to sound "objective" but i'll take noble.

i believe cheeky is right. and i agree with you that we have a knack for not needing to be understood. i think that's one of the more attractive things about us. In other words... we're confident.

but that doesnt mean we can't be understood. or that we have to be so guarded from being misunderstood that we push people away. ,b> just be smart about who you are opening up to and how you are sharing yourself.

believe in yourself young padawan 😛



This. (nods)

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Posted by lisabethur8
he'll make a good husband for a very lucky future wife out there!



i agree! are you and your hubby planning kids or do you have kids? just curious.
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we already have a boy, but maybe a girl soon.
You gonna have children too?
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Oppps Quote FAIL.

Posted by CreepyPants
well i was trying to sound "objective" but i'll take noble.

i believe cheeky is right. and i agree with you that we have a knack for not needing to be understood. i think that's one of the more attractive things about us. In other words... we're confident.

but that doesnt mean we can't be understood. or that we have to be so guarded from being misunderstood that we push people away. just be smart about who you are opening up to and how you are sharing yourself.

just be cool... easy... breezy.... lemon squeezy.

it's all about delivery.

also, you believe really intensely that caps aren't meant to open up. that might be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

believe in yourself young padawan 😛



I meant to bold this.
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Okay, im back to square one with this.

Im a reality show fanatic, and it never fails. If there is a Capricorn on the show that Cap is later betrayed by the person theyve gotten closest to.

Now there is a show called Hollywood Exes with Nicole Murphy, Eddie Murphys ex wife on there. She is a Capricorn and Eddie bought her a fur coat she occassionally still wears. Well one of the ladies is completely against wearing fur, so Nicole and her kind of got into it. Now Nicoles closest friend on the show sided with the other girl, and when Nicole left fogetting her fur hat, it was her friend who was basically the main one in cooking it and burning it.

Of all people to become close with, Nicole picks a person that will do something like that to her.

I do agree that the absolute best judgement has to be made, but we are either too closed up holding everyone at arms length or too nice naive and trusting.
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Posted by SureShotCap
Everyone I know has insecurities, but most choose to keep them inside. I choose to open up on purpose to have myself put on the spot. Yes it hurts inside, but after, the healing begins and you suddenly lose the fear. I have quit trying to be accepted. I have worked myself to almost being truly pure and always confident and always in self control. I speak to thousands of people in a week and I always seem to help almost all of them in some type of way.

I am here for you my brother and anyone else that wants to become whole and pure...
I have a heart and I speak from it all time...



Profound...
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I believe that Capricorns are supposed to show their feelings in a specific way. I'll tell you why after this explanation.

Negative (insecure) people are always searching for insecurities in others to relate to or belittle. Since Capricorn almost never seek approval from others it creates hate towards us. This is why many hate us and why most of us barricade ourselves from attacks.
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Posted by SureShotCap
I believe that Capricorns are supposed to show their feelings in a specific way. I'll tell you why after this explanation.

Negative (insecure) people are always searching for insecurities in others to relate to or belittle. Since Capricorn almost never seek approval from others it creates hate towards us. This is why many hate us and why most of us barricade ourselves from attacks.


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Now since we don't approval seek we seem confident. But there are people that can read body language really good and know your full of butter. A truly confident person has to show vulnerability in order to grow or mature. So how can a Capricorn do this and truly be confident while waiting for an attack?

We must show vulnerability at the proper time. Every weakness we have has a positive advancement. Here it is, Saturn is the planet of time, we must master timing.

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Information or experience are linked to feelings. When someone asks for your help, they are showing you their vulnerability/insecurities. This is the proper time to bond with them and show them your vulnerabilities to relate and share your past experiences and outcomes to try and help them overcome it to mature. Buy doing this you create a strong bond with them which will boost up both of parties confidence.

We are built to not asks for help but to help others through our failures...
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ok, if I say that i can't remember what does "confident" mean and again again I'm looking it in the vocabulary - what will it give to you? 🙂 You can dig into my soul and begin to work as my memory? ^) I doubt.

Key is good vs bad.
Somebody wanna good, someone wanna bad. Seen immediately (checked the spelling of this word. Am I your best friend now? Cause I'm so open to share my faults. 😛)
So if anybody looks for bad traits he really deserves that I look/speak at him as he is a furniture.

Since some time I begin to be really afraid if anybody begins to take place in a row of my haters. I really _tired_ of filling checkboxes in my mind after some time when they got into different accidents. So I can't even wish them good luck cause there will no luck for them.

It is an upsidedown some financial note that if somebody stole your money in some deal it's no need to wish them something very bad cause "People sometimes judge faster than a god".
So "God sometimes judges faster than people".

Tons of people just live boiling in their "open" style of insecurities or "I'm a looser but I'm open". Gathering like a gang trying to patch each other cause nobody of them is a whole mature stable person.
But because they have not karm-ish capp-ish feeling to be calm
they go into troubles later if some part of their chain is excluded.




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SureShotCap
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Posted by CluelessCancer
Posted by SureShotCap
I believe that Capricorns are supposed to show their feelings in a specific way. I'll tell you why after this explanation.

Negative (insecure) people are always searching for insecurities in others to relate to or belittle. Since Capricorn almost never seek approval from others it creates hate towards us. This is why many hate us and why most of us barricade ourselves from attacks.



This would be accurate if Capricorns didn't hate and belittle others aggressively or passively.

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This statement is still accurate because it includes negative Capricorns. Capricorns also criticize other Capricorns. There is no favoritism for Capricorn.
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games.

Posted by Serginho
Seen immediately (checked the spelling of this word. Am I your best friend now? Cause I'm so open to share my faults. 😛)



Posted by aquapiscescusp
Huh?



Posted by everevolvingepithet
Maybe English isn't their first language?



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Posted by Metaphysical
whenever i let my wall down that person just ends up disappointing me

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