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It is absurd and ridiculous to downplay the massive tax fraud in Minnesota.

I’m so glad this imbecile idiot is not in charge of the country.



^^^ Solo and WarAngel voted for this idiot.


https://apnews.com/article/tim-walz-minnesota-governor-not-running-fb037492e59e1e376f3be0559c235aec

"Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Democrats’ 2024 candidate for vice president, is ending his bid for a third term as governor amid President Donald Trump’s relentless focus on a fraud investigation into child care programs in the state.

Less than four months after announcing his reelection campaign, Walz said Monday that he could no longer devote the energy necessary to win another term, even as he expressed confidence that he could win."

Yank his passport.
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My take: 'Leftists' in the West see the reports of mullahs fleeing or dressing in street clothes (brave lot there), and realize if they accurately report on WHY there are protests in Iran, people in western nations might start realizing Leftists are doing or attempting to do the same exact things to them that the mullahs were doing to the Iranian people.click to expand

Iran was apparently like this before the 1979 islamic takeover :

people wore regular clothes and had human rights. they were progressive and islam took them back to the stone ages it seems like 😑





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Yes it was, under the Shah. A bit more secular similar to Turkey after reforms by Atatürk. I once worked with guy who was Muslim, but hated what Iran had become under the mullahs (he preferred to be identified as Persian, not Iranian-I think his family got the hell out of Iran shortly before or after the Shah was deposed).
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It is absurd and ridiculous to downplay the massive tax fraud in Minnesota.

I’m so glad this imbecile idiot is not in charge of the country.



^^^ Solo and WarAngel voted for this idiot.

https://apnews.com/article/tim-walz-minnesota-governor-not-running-fb037492e59e1e376f3be0559c235aec

"Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Democrats’ 2024 candidate for vice president, is ending his bid for a third term as governor amid President Donald Trump’s relentless focus on a fraud investigation into child care programs in the state.

Less than four months after announcing his reelection campaign, Walz said Monday that he could no longer devote the energy necessary to win another term, even as he expressed confidence that he could win."

Yank his passport.
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I’m so glad that Walz and Harris were not voted in. Did you see what came to light about Governor Shapiro? That’s absolutely disgusting!! She vetted him on whether he was an Israeli or Mossad agent. Also told him to apologize for condemning antisemitism on college campuses. He refused.



Thought you might be interested in this article:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026/01/19/pillar-of-jihad-jihadist-leaders-view-immigration-as-key-component-to-subvert-the-u-s/?utm_sf_cserv_ref=95475020353&utm_source=facebook&utm_sf_post_ref=655100015&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwdGRleAPcNhBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEewyL1OosuR43yr7ULRzut_f_q9KK1-7ZdYS2E1cFn469SKqUp5UB8FsNIpKI_aem_X7-axkdvEfUVfhwzhAugXw

Seems like a very good book to read!!
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It is absurd and ridiculous to downplay the massive tax fraud in Minnesota.

I’m so glad this imbecile idiot is not in charge of the country.



^^^ Solo and WarAngel voted for this idiot.


https://apnews.com/article/tim-walz-minnesota-governor-not-running-fb037492e59e1e376f3be0559c235aec

"Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Democrats’ 2024 candidate for vice president, is ending his bid for a third term as governor amid President Donald Trump’s relentless focus on a fraud investigation into child care programs in the state.

Less than four months after announcing his reelection campaign, Walz said Monday that he could no longer devote the energy necessary to win another term, even as he expressed confidence that he could win."

Yank his passport.click to expand

I’m so glad that Walz and Harris were not voted in. Did you see what came to light about Governor Shapiro? That’s absolutely disgusting!! She vetted him on whether he was an Israeli or Mossad agent. Also told him to apologize for condemning antisemitism on college campuses. He refused.

Thought you might be interested in this article:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026/01/19/pillar-of-jihad-jihadist-leaders-view-immigration-as-key-component-to-subvert-the-u-s/?utm_sf_cserv_ref=95475020353&utm_source=facebook&utm_sf_post_ref=655100015&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwdGRleAPcNhBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEewyL1OosuR43yr7ULRzut_f_q9KK1-7ZdYS2E1cFn469SKqUp5UB8FsNIpKI_aem_X7-axkdvEfUVfhwzhAugXw

Seems like a very good book to read!!
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Schweizer has put out some excellent books. He's right.

I mean, there are Imans on video, in the United States, saying as much.

On a related note:

https://apnews.com/article/ice-protest-church-minneapolis-fcc97a29b9c4434c665d76d4811c5a3e

"Several faith leaders called urgently for protecting the rights of worshippers while also expressing compassion for migrants after anti-immigration enforcement protesters disrupted a service at a Southern Baptist church in Minnesota.

About three dozen protesters entered the Cities Church in St. Paul during Sunday service, some walking right up to the pulpit, others loudly chanting “ICE out” and “Renee Good,” referring to a woman who was fatally shot on Jan. 7 by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer in Minneapolis."

Hopefully it stops. But probably not until we have a Bronx Tale incident that makes the media go: "But you're Christians. You're not supposed to do that!"

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a liberal acquaintance of mine was like “ICE arrested a 5 year old” so me being the open-minded dude that i am was like, “omg that’s terrible lemme go check out the news story” and look what i find 😑:

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blatantly lying about ICE arresting kids is not okay.

but honestly, i’m in two minds about ICE.

i don’t think shooting that lady Renee was necessary regardless of how uncooperative she was behaving (like, couldn’t they have tased her instead or something?) i wish that whole incident didn’t happen.

she unfortunately chose the wrong path and it cost her her life. when you have children you simply do not make dumb decisions like that (ramming your car into government officials). she sounds like somewhere along the line she became radicalized by the left. now her kids have no mother.

what’s confusing to me about this whole ICE thing is,

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obama’s administration deported over 2.5 million people, biden’s administration deported over 1.3 million. they all focused on deporting criminals which is exactly what trump is doing as well.

so, why are the deportations all of a sudden a big issue ? why are liberals protecting these criminals over their own family and kids? :/

i guess that’s what i wanna know yet no one has any logical answers.

video clip of ICE agent telling protesters “you guys are protecting a child s*x offender. please get out of the way.”:

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTqahJHE_ev/?igsh=MTV6eXk0aGY0dXo3bA==
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a liberal acquaintance of mine was like “ICE arrested a 5 year old” so me being the open-minded dude that i am was like, “omg that’s terrible lemme go check out the news story” and look what i find 😑:





blatantly lying about ICE arresting kids is not okay.

but honestly, i’m in two minds about ICE.

i don’t think shooting that lady Renee was necessary regardless of how uncooperative she was behaving (like, couldn’t they have tased her instead or something?) i wish that whole incident didn’t happen.

she unfortunately chose the wrong path and it cost her her life. when you have children you simply do not make dumb decisions like that (ramming your car into government officials). she sounds like somewhere along the line she became radicalized by the left. now her kids have no mother.

what’s confusing to me about this whole ICE thing is,



obama’s administration deported over 2.5 million people, biden’s administration deported over 1.3 million. they all focused on deporting criminals which is exactly what trump is doing as well.

so, why are the deportations all of a sudden a big issue ? why are liberals protecting these criminals over their own family and kids? :/

i guess that’s what i wanna know yet no one has any logical answers.

video clip of ICE agent telling protesters “you guys are protecting a child s*x offender. please get out of the way.”:



https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTqahJHE_ev/?igsh=MTV6eXk0aGY0dXo3bA==


Accuracy in these things is important.

Jonathan Swift wrote: "Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it"

The more common phrase now is: "A lie travels around the globe while the truth is putting on its shoes."

IMHO, point is, people repeat things like the situation of the child for several reasons:

1. They WANT it to be true

2. They have an agenda to manipulate people

3. They're dumbasses

4. They want to be edgelords for the attention

5. They're either paid to repeat it or forced to

As far as Renee Good, I stated in the comments section on this site that she went looking for trouble and found it, and stand by that.

I don't like what happened, it was a tragic situation.

To understand where I'm going with this, look up the reception to 'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy'. I think society has progressed beyond peak woke.
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yeah, they also used this first picture below to spread the lie that ice arrests kids:

this isn’t even a little girl.

it’s a 27 year old woman and the people arresting her aren’t even ice.

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article from a factcheck site explaining where and when the incident is from:

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.79392CQ



speaking of protestors being paid, a journalist actually went up to interview one and she accidentally admitted that she was paid 😂 :

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video:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTUFwC8CqcJ/?igsh=ZHZnaGpjc3BrbnI5



this other journalist exposed paid venezuela protesters. they got 20 million dollars in the course of a few years doing many different protests lol

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video:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTEKVwBAadk/?igsh=MWg0Zzg2ZThub3kybA==
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is she one of the “learing” center kids or what? 😂

asian dude in the background like “this really the path we taking ?...." 😂



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The 5 year old arrived in this country with his father, lawfully, at a port of entry. “Just come the right away” right? They did. They are not here illegally. They have a pending asylum case. You think a father uproots their life, risks a dangerous journey to immigrate with his son if the intent was to harm or abandon the child? If the goal was to neglect or harm his child he could have stayed in his own damn country and it would have been easier and cheaper to harm him. I know I’m asking too much for you stupid fucks to understand basic logic…if you did we wouldn’t be in this position in the first place.

ErRRRrr I’m sniffling drooling retard: Obama deported more people!

Correct Obama had more formal deportations than Trump. The keyword here is the word formal. There was due process. Trump is undermining due process.

Being in the US illegally is not a criminal offense. It’s a civil violation. The constitution protects every person in this country, not just US citizens.
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Anyone keeping tabs on Mamdani’s NYC?

Just seeing some articles. He hasn't been in long enough yet.

Now Virgina is another story. The lefty legislators and governor are going after their citizens with a vengence.
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My feeds keep tabs on him very well. People in a Staten Island restaurant told him he was not welcomed there and called him a Jew hater.



People are predicting NYC will be the next London.

He’s cutting back on OT for the NYPD.

https://nypost.com/2026/01/23/us-news/nypd-ordered-to-cut-back-on-overtime-under-mamdani/



He plans to replace the NYPD with an unarmed community outreach. We can only imagine what will go wrong there, right?

https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/new-yorkers-are-lab-rats-mamdanis-safety-plan

I saw a little on Virginia… wow!! I will read up more.
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Anyone keeping tabs on Mamdani’s NYC?


Just seeing some articles. He hasn't been in long enough yet.

Now Virgina is another story. The lefty legislators and governor are going after their citizens with a vengence.click to expand

My feeds keep tabs on him very well. People in a Staten Island restaurant told him he was not welcomed there and called him a Jew hater.



Here is more…unfortunately the prick who liked Mamdani and supported him left Dxpnet after his threat of violence and wishing that when I go, I go in pain. Btw, I mostly stopped arguing with progressives because I realize how crazy and delusional they are.

He’s declared NYC a sanctuary city for illegal

Immigrants and says he will give his universal child care to illegal immigrants. Same thing that has been going on in Minneapolis.

https://www.aol.com/articles/mamdani-clarifies-nyc-wont-check-002019026.html
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The 5 year old arrived in this country with his father, lawfully, at a port of entry. “Just come the right away” right? They did. They are not here illegally. They have a pending asylum case. You think a father uproots their life, risks a dangerous journey to immigrate with his son if the intent was to harm or abandon the child? If the goal was to neglect or harm his child he could have stayed in his own damn country and it would have been easier and cheaper to harm him. I know I’m asking too much for you stupid fucks to understand basic logic…if you did we wouldn’t be in this position in the first place.

ErRRRrr I’m sniffling drooling retard: Obama deported more people!

Correct Obama had more formal deportations than Trump. The keyword here is the word formal. There was due process. Trump is undermining due process.

Being in the US illegally is not a criminal offense. It’s a civil violation. The constitution protects every person in this country, not just US citizens.


if they’re here legally and haven’t committed any crime, they shouldn’t be deported or arrested. i agree with you.

if they’re here legally, they can show their documents and solve any misunderstandings, right?

and i already said i’m in two minds about ICE. i’ve expressed my disapproval and concerns about how that lady was treated. i’m not quite sure if most liberals would express concerns or disapprovals about any conservative who gets killed but that’s another topic for another day, i guess :/

i understand liberals are passionate about human rights not being violated and innocent lives being lost.

it’d be nice if they could also display that same amount of passion and sense of justice towards the victims of crimes committed by illegal aliens too. otherwise your passion is selective and misplaced.

i don’t think people are necessarily “stupid fucks” for wanting to protect their countries from criminals and illegals by having strict borders. don’t most people lock the front doors of their house at night when they go to sleep?

i mean i don’t think you guys are “stupid fucks” for wanting non-illegals to not be harassed. i don’t want non-illegal, law-abiding citizens to be harassed either. so we at least agree on that.

and if you’ve read the thread, you’ll know i’m not a trump supporter (i even told solo i don’t fully trust the trump administration and that i’m neither a liberal nor a conservative and you see me agreeing with solo on many of his points throughout this thread too and him agreeing with some of my points about radical islam) so i dunno what trump has to do with people wanting safer countries. i don’t really care who is doing the deporting of criminals and illegals as long as they do it.

hell, if Kim Jong Un from North Korea came and deported all the criminals and illegals, i’d still be satisfied.

also, thanks for being here and stating your opinion. i actually wanna talk to liberals and hear what they have to say as well.
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The 5 year old arrived in this country with his father, lawfully, at a port of entry. “Just come the right away” right? They did. They are not here illegally. They have a pending asylum case. You think a father uproots their life, risks a dangerous journey to immigrate with his son if the intent was to harm or abandon the child? If the goal was to neglect or harm his child he could have stayed in his own damn country and it would have been easier and cheaper to harm him. I know I’m asking too much for you stupid fucks to understand basic logic…if you did we wouldn’t be in this position in the first place.

ErRRRrr I’m sniffling drooling retard: Obama deported more people!

Correct Obama had more formal deportations than Trump. The keyword here is the word formal. There was due process. Trump is undermining due process.

Being in the US illegally is not a criminal offense. It’s a civil violation. The constitution protects every person in this country, not just US citizens.

if they’re here legally and haven’t committed any crime, they shouldn’t be deported or arrested. i agree with you.

if they’re here legally, they can show their documents and solve any misunderstandings, right?

and i already said i’m in two minds about ICE. i’ve expressed my disapproval and concerns about how that lady was treated. i’m not quite sure if most liberals would express concerns or disapprovals about any conservative who gets killed but that’s another topic for another day, i guess :/

i understand liberals are passionate about human rights not being violated and innocent lives being lost.

it’d be nice if they could also display that same amount of passion and sense of justice towards the victims of crimes committed by illegal aliens too. otherwise your passion is selective and misplaced.

i don’t think people are necessarily “stupid fucks” for wanting to protect their countries from criminals and illegals by having strict borders. don’t most people lock the front doors of their house at night when they go to sleep?

i mean i don’t think you guys are “stupid fucks” for wanting non-illegals to not be harassed. i don’t want non-illegal, law-abiding citizens to be harassed either. so we at least agree on that.

and if you’ve read the thread, you’ll know i’m not a trump supporter (i even told solo i don’t fully trust the trump administration and that i’m neither a liberal nor a conservative and you see me agreeing with solo on many of his points throughout this thread too and him agreeing with some of my points about radical islam) so i dunno what trump has to do with people wanting safer countries. i don’t really care who is doing the deporting of criminals and illegals as long as they do it.

hell, if Kim Jong Un from North Korea came and deported all the criminals and illegals, i’d still be satisfied.

also, thanks for being here and stating your opinion. i actually wanna talk to liberals and hear what they have to say as well.
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The Irish were called stupid, dirty, lazy, diseased criminals when they arrived in America.

Germans were accused of refusing to assimilate. Political radicals and alcoholics.

Jews, Italians, Chinese….

“Immigrant crime” is recycled moral panic. It’s lazy and dishonest and ALWAYS ends with society embarrassing itself in hindsight.

Also it’d be nice if you all displayed the same amount of passion and sense of justice towards the victims of crimes committed by the vastly larger sources of violence. Otherwise your outrage is selective and misplaced.
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The 5 year old arrived in this country with his father, lawfully, at a port of entry. “Just come the right away” right? They did. They are not here illegally. They have a pending asylum case. You think a father uproots their life, risks a dangerous journey to immigrate with his son if the intent was to harm or abandon the child? If the goal was to neglect or harm his child he could have stayed in his own damn country and it would have been easier and cheaper to harm him. I know I’m asking too much for you stupid fucks to understand basic logic…if you did we wouldn’t be in this position in the first place.

ErRRRrr I’m sniffling drooling retard: Obama deported more people!

Correct Obama had more formal deportations than Trump. The keyword here is the word formal. There was due process. Trump is undermining due process.

Being in the US illegally is not a criminal offense. It’s a civil violation. The constitution protects every person in this country, not just US citizens.

if they’re here legally and haven’t committed any crime, they shouldn’t be deported or arrested. i agree with you.

if they’re here legally, they can show their documents and solve any misunderstandings, right?

and i already said i’m in two minds about ICE. i’ve expressed my disapproval and concerns about how that lady was treated. i’m not quite sure if most liberals would express concerns or disapprovals about any conservative who gets killed but that’s another topic for another day, i guess :/

i understand liberals are passionate about human rights not being violated and innocent lives being lost.

it’d be nice if they could also display that same amount of passion and sense of justice towards the victims of crimes committed by illegal aliens too. otherwise your passion is selective and misplaced.

i don’t think people are necessarily “stupid fucks” for wanting to protect their countries from criminals and illegals by having strict borders. don’t most people lock the front doors of their house at night when they go to sleep?

i mean i don’t think you guys are “stupid fucks” for wanting non-illegals to not be harassed. i don’t want non-illegal, law-abiding citizens to be harassed either. so we at least agree on that.

and if you’ve read the thread, you’ll know i’m not a trump supporter (i even told solo i don’t fully trust the trump administration and that i’m neither a liberal nor a conservative and you see me agreeing with solo on many of his points throughout this thread too and him agreeing with some of my points about radical islam) so i dunno what trump has to do with people wanting safer countries. i don’t really care who is doing the deporting of criminals and illegals as long as they do it.

hell, if Kim Jong Un from North Korea came and deported all the criminals and illegals, i’d still be satisfied.

also, thanks for being here and stating your opinion. i actually wanna talk to liberals and hear what they have to say as well.
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Actually saw a video of a leftist TikToker threatening MAGA voters that when we get old and are in nursing homes, it won’t be good for us. It’s under vile.honey.



Right here:

https://jumpshare.com/s/p3krO1rY4ip2FNb6t2iL

I’ve seen threats from leftists that after they assassinated Trump, they will hunt the MAGA supporters down.

They do not realize or want to acknowledge that we have the right to vote, like them, for the candidate of our choice.

If they are so passionate about human rights not being violated, why are they not protesting the Iran regime who has used snipers on rooftops and machine guns to slaughter 30,000+ of their own people. A mass killing not that big since WWII.

I will tell you why.

They support the Iranian regime and don’t care about human rights. They hate Jews.
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“If I am not for myself, who will be for me? If I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?” - Rabbi Hillel

I am going to explain this in laymen’s terms. Iran wants to nuke Israel. They have made this very clear. They work with and provide weapons for Hamas and Hezbollah, their proxies. You already know what happened on October 7, 2023. If you have the stomach for it, please visit this site. I dare you to do it. What they did was worse than what the Nazis did. There, I said it.

https://saturday-october-seven.com/

You know that the Mossad took out the head leader of Hezbollah and many other members of Hezbollah.

Iran also is allied with Russia, China, and Venezuela. They have utilized Venezuela to send illegal immigrants to America. MS13 gang members, rapists and other sex offenders, murderers - you name it, they are here. Since we both like to research, you should research this a lot more. The Ayatollah wants to assassinate Trump. Radical Islamists on this site hate my guts and it is because they know I know exactly what is going on. They claim Jews are colonizers when they are indigenous to Israel. The original colonizers were Arabs and they practiced apartheid and still do. The whole western progressives are ignorant and are helping the radical Islamists with achieving their goals!
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Not like Dachau, is it, Herr Mufti?"

This 1948 New York Times cartoon is more relevant than ever today.

Notice that "Palestine" represents a Zionist resisting the Nazi Islamist.

After the war, when people said, "free Palestine," they meant "establish a Jewish state."

The indoctrinated fools of today are the ones who fall for revisionist history. They are too poorly educated and so inadequately informed they have forgotten that the Arab Nationalist and Muslim Extremist scumbags of 1929 like the Mufti, were Nazis.

But really, their politics is just a thin veil for their own Antisemitism.

Let's be clear. Anti Zionism is Antisemitism. It is the prejudice against Jews enjoying self-determination in their historical homelands. It is the attempt to separate Judaism from Jerusalem.

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The 5 year old arrived in this country with his father, lawfully, at a port of entry. “Just come the right away” right? They did. They are not here illegally. They have a pending asylum case. You think a father uproots their life, risks a dangerous journey to immigrate with his son if the intent was to harm or abandon the child? If the goal was to neglect or harm his child he could have stayed in his own damn country and it would have been easier and cheaper to harm him. I know I’m asking too much for you stupid fucks to understand basic logic…if you did we wouldn’t be in this position in the first place.

ErRRRrr I’m sniffling drooling retard: Obama deported more people!

Correct Obama had more formal deportations than Trump. The keyword here is the word formal. There was due process. Trump is undermining due process.

Being in the US illegally is not a criminal offense. It’s a civil violation. The constitution protects every person in this country, not just US citizens.


if they’re here legally and haven’t committed any crime, they shouldn’t be deported or arrested. i agree with you.

if they’re here legally, they can show their documents and solve any misunderstandings, right?

and i already said i’m in two minds about ICE. i’ve expressed my disapproval and concerns about how that lady was treated. i’m not quite sure if most liberals would express concerns or disapprovals about any conservative who gets killed but that’s another topic for another day, i guess :/

i understand liberals are passionate about human rights not being violated and innocent lives being lost.

it’d be nice if they could also display that same amount of passion and sense of justice towards the victims of crimes committed by illegal aliens too. otherwise your passion is selective and misplaced.

i don’t think people are necessarily “stupid fucks” for wanting to protect their countries from criminals and illegals by having strict borders. don’t most people lock the front doors of their house at night when they go to sleep?

i mean i don’t think you guys are “stupid fucks” for wanting non-illegals to not be harassed. i don’t want non-illegal, law-abiding citizens to be harassed either. so we at least agree on that.

and if you’ve read the thread, you’ll know i’m not a trump supporter (i even told solo i don’t fully trust the trump administration and that i’m neither a liberal nor a conservative and you see me agreeing with solo on many of his points throughout this thread too and him agreeing with some of my points about radical islam) so i dunno what trump has to do with people wanting safer countries. i don’t really care who is doing the deporting of criminals and illegals as long as they do it.

hell, if Kim Jong Un from North Korea came and deported all the criminals and illegals, i’d still be satisfied.

also, thanks for being here and stating your opinion. i actually wanna talk to liberals and hear what they have to say as well.click to expand

The Irish were called stupid, dirty, lazy, diseased criminals when they arrived in America.

Germans were accused of refusing to assimilate. Political radicals and alcoholics.

Jews, Italians, Chinese….

“Immigrant crime” is recycled moral panic. It’s lazy and dishonest and ALWAYS ends with society embarrassing itself in hindsight.

Also it’d be nice if you all displayed the same amount of passion and sense of justice towards the victims of crimes committed by the vastly larger sources of violence. Otherwise your outrage is selective and misplaced.
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so, let me get this straight. you think immigrants from germany ,italy ,china, ireland, jews etc basically people from relatively civilized non-third world countries are the same as illegals from third world countries who aren’t as civilized? you think they behave the same? you think they have the exact same capacity to follow rules? you think people whose religion teaches them that it’s okay to kill/rape nonbelievers are the same as those people from italy, ireland etc? the people who other middle eastern countries didn’t even want because of how dangerous they are ? you think it’s perfectly fine for the west to accept those people with open arms? you think the migrants pouring in everyday are of good quality? you think they’re only sending us their best people? you really think that ? how is my passion selective if i’m telling you i care deeply when liberals are killed ? do you liberals care for these people below ? why are you guys more outraged about an illegal getting deported than the deaths of innocent people who belonged in that country to begin with?



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The 5 year old arrived in this country with his father, lawfully, at a port of entry. “Just come the right away” right? They did. They are not here illegally. They have a pending asylum case. You think a father uproots their life, risks a dangerous journey to immigrate with his son if the intent was to harm or abandon the child? If the goal was to neglect or harm his child he could have stayed in his own damn country and it would have been easier and cheaper to harm him. I know I’m asking too much for you stupid fucks to understand basic logic…if you did we wouldn’t be in this position in the first place.

ErRRRrr I’m sniffling drooling retard: Obama deported more people!

Correct Obama had more formal deportations than Trump. The keyword here is the word formal. There was due process. Trump is undermining due process.

Being in the US illegally is not a criminal offense. It’s a civil violation. The constitution protects every person in this country, not just US citizens.

if they’re here legally and haven’t committed any crime, they shouldn’t be deported or arrested. i agree with you.

if they’re here legally, they can show their documents and solve any misunderstandings, right?

and i already said i’m in two minds about ICE. i’ve expressed my disapproval and concerns about how that lady was treated. i’m not quite sure if most liberals would express concerns or disapprovals about any conservative who gets killed but that’s another topic for another day, i guess :/

i understand liberals are passionate about human rights not being violated and innocent lives being lost.

it’d be nice if they could also display that same amount of passion and sense of justice towards the victims of crimes committed by illegal aliens too. otherwise your passion is selective and misplaced.

i don’t think people are necessarily “stupid fucks” for wanting to protect their countries from criminals and illegals by having strict borders. don’t most people lock the front doors of their house at night when they go to sleep?

i mean i don’t think you guys are “stupid fucks” for wanting non-illegals to not be harassed. i don’t want non-illegal, law-abiding citizens to be harassed either. so we at least agree on that.

and if you’ve read the thread, you’ll know i’m not a trump supporter (i even told solo i don’t fully trust the trump administration and that i’m neither a liberal nor a conservative and you see me agreeing with solo on many of his points throughout this thread too and him agreeing with some of my points about radical islam) so i dunno what trump has to do with people wanting safer countries. i don’t really care who is doing the deporting of criminals and illegals as long as they do it.

hell, if Kim Jong Un from North Korea came and deported all the criminals and illegals, i’d still be satisfied.

also, thanks for being here and stating your opinion. i actually wanna talk to liberals and hear what they have to say as well.click to expand


The Irish were called stupid, dirty, lazy, diseased criminals when they arrived in America.

Germans were accused of refusing to assimilate. Political radicals and alcoholics.

Jews, Italians, Chinese….

“Immigrant crime” is recycled moral panic. It’s lazy and dishonest and ALWAYS ends with society embarrassing itself in hindsight.

Also it’d be nice if you all displayed the same amount of passion and sense of justice towards the victims of crimes committed by the vastly larger sources of violence. Otherwise your outrage is selective and misplaced. click to expand

so, let me get this straight. you think immigrants from germany ,italy ,china, ireland, jews etc basically people from relatively civilized non-third world countries are the same as illegals from third world countries who aren’t as civilized? you think they behave the same? you think they have the exact same capacity to follow rules? you think people whose religion teaches them that it’s okay to kill/rape nonbelievers are the same as those people from italy, ireland etc? the people who other middle eastern countries didn’t even want because of how dangerous they are ? you think it’s perfectly fine for the west to accept those people with open arms? you think the migrants pouring in everyday are of good quality? you think they’re only sending us their best people? you really think that ? how is my passion selective if i’m telling you i care deeply when liberals are killed ? do you liberals care for these people below ? why are you guys more outraged about an illegal getting deported than the deaths of innocent people who belonged in that country to begin with?



Id be willing to have this conversation if you can find 3 separate reputable peer reviewed studies that show immigrants IN THE US commit crime at a higher rate than US born Americans.
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The 5 year old arrived in this country with his father, lawfully, at a port of entry. “Just come the right away” right? They did. They are not here illegally. They have a pending asylum case. You think a father uproots their life, risks a dangerous journey to immigrate with his son if the intent was to harm or abandon the child? If the goal was to neglect or harm his child he could have stayed in his own damn country and it would have been easier and cheaper to harm him. I know I’m asking too much for you stupid fucks to understand basic logic…if you did we wouldn’t be in this position in the first place.

ErRRRrr I’m sniffling drooling retard: Obama deported more people!

Correct Obama had more formal deportations than Trump. The keyword here is the word formal. There was due process. Trump is undermining due process.

Being in the US illegally is not a criminal offense. It’s a civil violation. The constitution protects every person in this country, not just US citizens.


if they’re here legally and haven’t committed any crime, they shouldn’t be deported or arrested. i agree with you.

if they’re here legally, they can show their documents and solve any misunderstandings, right?

and i already said i’m in two minds about ICE. i’ve expressed my disapproval and concerns about how that lady was treated. i’m not quite sure if most liberals would express concerns or disapprovals about any conservative who gets killed but that’s another topic for another day, i guess :/

i understand liberals are passionate about human rights not being violated and innocent lives being lost.

it’d be nice if they could also display that same amount of passion and sense of justice towards the victims of crimes committed by illegal aliens too. otherwise your passion is selective and misplaced.

i don’t think people are necessarily “stupid fucks” for wanting to protect their countries from criminals and illegals by having strict borders. don’t most people lock the front doors of their house at night when they go to sleep?

i mean i don’t think you guys are “stupid fucks” for wanting non-illegals to not be harassed. i don’t want non-illegal, law-abiding citizens to be harassed either. so we at least agree on that.

and if you’ve read the thread, you’ll know i’m not a trump supporter (i even told solo i don’t fully trust the trump administration and that i’m neither a liberal nor a conservative and you see me agreeing with solo on many of his points throughout this thread too and him agreeing with some of my points about radical islam) so i dunno what trump has to do with people wanting safer countries. i don’t really care who is doing the deporting of criminals and illegals as long as they do it.

hell, if Kim Jong Un from North Korea came and deported all the criminals and illegals, i’d still be satisfied.

also, thanks for being here and stating your opinion. i actually wanna talk to liberals and hear what they have to say as well.click to expand

The Irish were called stupid, dirty, lazy, diseased criminals when they arrived in America.

Germans were accused of refusing to assimilate. Political radicals and alcoholics.

Jews, Italians, Chinese….

“Immigrant crime” is recycled moral panic. It’s lazy and dishonest and ALWAYS ends with society embarrassing itself in hindsight.

Also it’d be nice if you all displayed the same amount of passion and sense of justice towards the victims of crimes committed by the vastly larger sources of violence. Otherwise your outrage is selective and misplaced. click to expand


so, let me get this straight. you think immigrants from germany ,italy ,china, ireland, jews etc basically people from relatively civilized non-third world countries are the same as illegals from third world countries who aren’t as civilized? you think they behave the same? you think they have the exact same capacity to follow rules? you think people whose religion teaches them that it’s okay to kill/rape nonbelievers are the same as those people from italy, ireland etc? the people who other middle eastern countries didn’t even want because of how dangerous they are ? you think it’s perfectly fine for the west to accept those people with open arms? you think the migrants pouring in everyday are of good quality? you think they’re only sending us their best people? you really think that ? how is my passion selective if i’m telling you i care deeply when liberals are killed ? do you liberals care for these people below ? why are you guys more outraged about an illegal getting deported than the deaths of innocent people who belonged in that country to begin with?


Id be willing to have this conversation if you can find 3 separate reputable peer reviewed studies that show immigrants IN THE US commit crime at a higher rate than US born Americans.
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oh, i don’t think illegal immigrants commit more crimes than US borns. i never once made that claim and never will without seeing some proper data. but does that mean illegal immigration shouldn’t be dealt with harshly? does that mean we should import uncivilized people into a relatively civilized country with open arms without properly background checking them first? do you know how many people came into a country as “asylum seekers” but later turned out to be criminals in disguise? fake asylum claims are on the rise.

the point i’m trying to make is there are people who didn’t have to die had these illegals not been in the country in the first place.

prevention of crime is what i’m talking about. why go out of our way to import more crime?
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alright so i just heard about this dude alex being shot by ice. sorry i’m a few days late. i’m in japan so there’s like a time lag.

i watched the liberal take on it as well as the conservative take on it. and there seems to be numerous analysis regarding positioning, timing etc

i watched the video in slow motion and here’s my amateur take on it :

-nine times is way too much. unnecessary.

-miscommunication between agents played a huge role in the unfortunate outcome

-grey shirt should have alerted other ice agents right away that alex had been disarmed. wtf was he doing just casually walking away after he took the gun from alex?

-alex was pepper sprayed before he was on the ground so he couldn’t see properly.

-alex seemingly made a gesture that made ice agent think he was gonna reach for the gun in his side pocket but i don’t know for sure if that was what he was really doing.

grey shirt dude takes alex’s gun from his pocket

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green shirt dude reaches for his own gun (at this point, i don’t know if he knows alex is disarmed in this commotion)

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green shirt dude gets ready to fire the first shot

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grey shirt dude walks away with gun (this is where i was like wtf? did he inform green shirt dude alex was disarmed?)

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alex gets shot once. at this point they didn’t have to shoot him eight more times.

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that’s my amateur take. i wanna hear you guys’ take. if anyone wants to share that is.
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The 5 year old arrived in this country with his father, lawfully, at a port of entry. “Just come the right away” right? They did. They are not here illegally. They have a pending asylum case. You think a father uproots their life, risks a dangerous journey to immigrate with his son if the intent was to harm or abandon the child? If the goal was to neglect or harm his child he could have stayed in his own damn country and it would have been easier and cheaper to harm him. I know I’m asking too much for you stupid fucks to understand basic logic…if you did we wouldn’t be in this position in the first place.

ErRRRrr I’m sniffling drooling retard: Obama deported more people!

Correct Obama had more formal deportations than Trump. The keyword here is the word formal. There was due process. Trump is undermining due process.

Being in the US illegally is not a criminal offense. It’s a civil violation. The constitution protects every person in this country, not just US citizens.

if they’re here legally and haven’t committed any crime, they shouldn’t be deported or arrested. i agree with you.

if they’re here legally, they can show their documents and solve any misunderstandings, right?

and i already said i’m in two minds about ICE. i’ve expressed my disapproval and concerns about how that lady was treated. i’m not quite sure if most liberals would express concerns or disapprovals about any conservative who gets killed but that’s another topic for another day, i guess :/

i understand liberals are passionate about human rights not being violated and innocent lives being lost.

it’d be nice if they could also display that same amount of passion and sense of justice towards the victims of crimes committed by illegal aliens too. otherwise your passion is selective and misplaced.

i don’t think people are necessarily “stupid fucks” for wanting to protect their countries from criminals and illegals by having strict borders. don’t most people lock the front doors of their house at night when they go to sleep?

i mean i don’t think you guys are “stupid fucks” for wanting non-illegals to not be harassed. i don’t want non-illegal, law-abiding citizens to be harassed either. so we at least agree on that.

and if you’ve read the thread, you’ll know i’m not a trump supporter (i even told solo i don’t fully trust the trump administration and that i’m neither a liberal nor a conservative and you see me agreeing with solo on many of his points throughout this thread too and him agreeing with some of my points about radical islam) so i dunno what trump has to do with people wanting safer countries. i don’t really care who is doing the deporting of criminals and illegals as long as they do it.

hell, if Kim Jong Un from North Korea came and deported all the criminals and illegals, i’d still be satisfied.

also, thanks for being here and stating your opinion. i actually wanna talk to liberals and hear what they have to say as well.click to expand


The Irish were called stupid, dirty, lazy, diseased criminals when they arrived in America.

Germans were accused of refusing to assimilate. Political radicals and alcoholics.

Jews, Italians, Chinese….

“Immigrant crime” is recycled moral panic. It’s lazy and dishonest and ALWAYS ends with society embarrassing itself in hindsight.

Also it’d be nice if you all displayed the same amount of passion and sense of justice towards the victims of crimes committed by the vastly larger sources of violence. Otherwise your outrage is selective and misplaced. click to expand

so, let me get this straight. you think immigrants from germany ,italy ,china, ireland, jews etc basically people from relatively civilized non-third world countries are the same as illegals from third world countries who aren’t as civilized? you think they behave the same? you think they have the exact same capacity to follow rules? you think people whose religion teaches them that it’s okay to kill/rape nonbelievers are the same as those people from italy, ireland etc? the people who other middle eastern countries didn’t even want because of how dangerous they are ? you think it’s perfectly fine for the west to accept those people with open arms? you think the migrants pouring in everyday are of good quality? you think they’re only sending us their best people? you really think that ? how is my passion selective if i’m telling you i care deeply when liberals are killed ? do you liberals care for these people below ? why are you guys more outraged about an illegal getting deported than the deaths of innocent people who belonged in that country to begin with?



Id be willing to have this conversation if you can find 3 separate reputable peer reviewed studies that show immigrants IN THE US commit crime at a higher rate than US born Americans. click to expand

oh, i don’t think illegal immigrants commit more crimes than US borns. i never once made that claim and never will without seeing some proper data. but does that mean illegal immigration shouldn’t be dealt with harshly? does that mean we should import uncivilized people into a relatively civilized country with open arms without properly background checking them first? do you know how many people came into a country as “asylum seekers” but later turned out to be criminals in disguise? fake asylum claims are on the rise.

the point i’m trying to make is there are people who didn’t have to die had these illegals not been in the country in the first place.

prevention of crime is what i’m talking about. why go out of our way to import more crime?
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Thanks. If you agree immigrants don’t commit more crime, then “importing crime” isn’t a factual claim.
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Just throwing this on here. Came in over the weekend. Will throw up Virginia stuff when I find time:

https://www.newsmax.com/us/cam-higby-signal-leaked/2026/01/25/id/1243518/

"At least two Democrat Minnesota state officials and a former campaign adviser to Gov. Tim Walz, Amanda Koehler, have allegedly been identified as "admins" and "dispatchers" in a leaked Signal group chat used to track and impede federal immigration operations in the state, the Gateway Pundit reported Sunday.

This activity was highlighted during an investigation by conservative independent journalist Cam Higby, who wrote on X, "I have infiltrated organizational signal groups all around Minneapolis with the sole intention of tracking down federal agents and impeding/assaulting/and obstructing them. Each area of the city has a signal or several signals.""

Might be the real reason for the call between Trump and Walz,.

Should have been done with Discord in 2020, when it was being used to coordinate the 'summer of love' and the 'firey but mostly peaceful' protests.

Key point: this was a citizen journalist who did this, not law enforcement or investigative reporters from the 'media'. Pretty telling. If you look at Higby's research, there is a good chance local law enforcement was involved re: identifying license plates and 'dispatchers'. Not cool at all.
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alright so i just heard about this dude alex being shot by ice. sorry i’m a few days late. i’m in japan so there’s like a time lag.

i watched the liberal take on it as well as the conservative take on it. and there seems to be numerous analysis regarding positioning, timing etc

i watched the video in slow motion and here’s my amateur take on it :

-nine times is way too much. unnecessary.

-miscommunication between agents played a huge role in the unfortunate outcome

-grey shirt should have alerted other ice agents right away that alex had been disarmed. wtf was he doing just casually walking away after he took the gun from alex?

-alex was pepper sprayed before he was on the ground so he couldn’t see properly.

-alex seemingly made a gesture that made ice agent think he was gonna reach for the gun in his side pocket but i don’t know for sure if that was what he was really doing.

grey shirt dude takes alex’s gun from his pocket



green shirt dude reaches for his own gun (at this point, i don’t know if he knows alex is disarmed in this commotion)



green shirt dude gets ready to fire the first shot



grey shirt dude walks away with gun (this is where i was like wtf? did he inform green shirt dude alex was disarmed?)



alex reaches for gun? i can’t be certain though.

alex gets shot once. at this point they didn’t have to shoot him eight more times.



that’s my amateur take. i wanna hear you guys’ take. if anyone wants to share that is.


Give us your amateur take leading up to him being on the ground. What justification do you see for pepper spraying him and tackling him to the ground.
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Signed affidavit from a woman at the scene-

The agents pulled the man on the ground. I didn’t see him touch any of them. He wasn’t even turned toward them. It didn’t look like he was trying to resist, just trying to help the woman up. I didn’t see him with a gun.

Read up right here dumbasses—-I HAVE READ THE STATEMENT FROM DHS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND IT IS WRONG.

She declared under penalty of perjury that DHS lied about what happened at the scene.
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Just throwing this on here. Came in over the weekend. Will throw up Virginia stuff when I find time:

https://www.newsmax.com/us/cam-higby-signal-leaked/2026/01/25/id/1243518/

"At least two Democrat Minnesota state officials and a former campaign adviser to Gov. Tim Walz, Amanda Koehler, have allegedly been identified as "admins" and "dispatchers" in a leaked Signal group chat used to track and impede federal immigration operations in the state, the Gateway Pundit reported Sunday.

This activity was highlighted during an investigation by conservative independent journalist Cam Higby, who wrote on X, "I have infiltrated organizational signal groups all around Minneapolis with the sole intention of tracking down federal agents and impeding/assaulting/and obstructing them. Each area of the city has a signal or several signals.""

Might be the real reason for the call between Trump and Walz,.

Should have been done with Discord in 2020, when it was being used to coordinate the 'summer of love' and the 'firey but mostly peaceful' protests.

Key point: this was a citizen journalist who did this, not law enforcement or investigative reporters from the 'media'. Pretty telling. If you look at Higby's research, there is a good chance local law enforcement was involved re: identifying license plates and 'dispatchers'. Not cool at all.


It’s okay, you don’t have to. I have a general idea of what is going on. Some of it is coming into my feeds.
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alright so i just heard about this dude alex being shot by ice. sorry i’m a few days late. i’m in japan so there’s like a time lag.

i watched the liberal take on it as well as the conservative take on it. and there seems to be numerous analysis regarding positioning, timing etc

i watched the video in slow motion and here’s my amateur take on it :

-nine times is way too much. unnecessary.

-miscommunication between agents played a huge role in the unfortunate outcome

-grey shirt should have alerted other ice agents right away that alex had been disarmed. wtf was he doing just casually walking away after he took the gun from alex?

-alex was pepper sprayed before he was on the ground so he couldn’t see properly.

-alex seemingly made a gesture that made ice agent think he was gonna reach for the gun in his side pocket but i don’t know for sure if that was what he was really doing.

grey shirt dude takes alex’s gun from his pocket



green shirt dude reaches for his own gun (at this point, i don’t know if he knows alex is disarmed in this commotion)



green shirt dude gets ready to fire the first shot



grey shirt dude walks away with gun (this is where i was like wtf? did he inform green shirt dude alex was disarmed?)



alex reaches for gun? i can’t be certain though.

alex gets shot once. at this point they didn’t have to shoot him eight more times.



that’s my amateur take. i wanna hear you guys’ take. if anyone wants to share that is.


I’m not sure why the ICE agents shoved the woman. I do not know if she was antagonizing them or what. But Alex got involved and pushed an ICE agent, which is considered assault on a federal LEO.

From there, it escalated and they were trying to detain him. The one ICE agent took his gun away. It’s unclear to me if the gun went off because of the type of gun it was. But some reports are saying it did and that is when they executed him.

They then looked for the gun immediately after he was killed, which makes that report seem plausible.
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INSANE: Democrat influencer Chelsea Gods with over 14k followers says she is going to “curb stomp MAGA” and their kids.

“Every MAGA, I want to punch you in the f*cking face. I want to beat you up until you are a pulp on the ground. I want to curb stomp the sh*t out of you. You voted for Donald Trump? Come tell me in the comments. I'm gonna find where you f*cking live. I'm gonna beat up your whole f*cking family. If you have a five-year-old kid, I'm gonna pick them off too. I f*cking hate you!”

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WHAT?!: Democrat Candidate for Ohio Attorney General, Elliot Forhan, says he’s going to k*ll President Trump through capital punishment.

“I want to tell you what I mean when I say I am going to k*ll Donald Trump. I mean I’m going to obtain a conviction rendered by a jury of his peers at a standard of proof beyond reasonable doubt based on evidence presented at a trial, conducted in accordance with the requirements of due process, resulting in a sentence, duly executed, of capital punishment.”

Ummmm…..

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alright so i just heard about this dude alex being shot by ice. sorry i’m a few days late. i’m in japan so there’s like a time lag.

i watched the liberal take on it as well as the conservative take on it. and there seems to be numerous analysis regarding positioning, timing etc

i watched the video in slow motion and here’s my amateur take on it :

-nine times is way too much. unnecessary.

-miscommunication between agents played a huge role in the unfortunate outcome

-grey shirt should have alerted other ice agents right away that alex had been disarmed. wtf was he doing just casually walking away after he took the gun from alex?

-alex was pepper sprayed before he was on the ground so he couldn’t see properly.

-alex seemingly made a gesture that made ice agent think he was gonna reach for the gun in his side pocket but i don’t know for sure if that was what he was really doing.

grey shirt dude takes alex’s gun from his pocket



green shirt dude reaches for his own gun (at this point, i don’t know if he knows alex is disarmed in this commotion)



green shirt dude gets ready to fire the first shot



grey shirt dude walks away with gun (this is where i was like wtf? did he inform green shirt dude alex was disarmed?)



alex reaches for gun? i can’t be certain though.

alex gets shot once. at this point they didn’t have to shoot him eight more times.



that’s my amateur take. i wanna hear you guys’ take. if anyone wants to share that is.

I’m not sure why the ICE agents shoved the woman. I do not know if she was antagonizing them or what. But Alex got involved and pushed an ICE agent, which is considered assault on a federal LEO.

From there, it escalated and they were trying to detain him. The one ICE agent took his gun away. It’s unclear to me if the gun went off because of the type of gun it was. But some reports are saying it did and that is when they executed him.

They then looked for the gun immediately after he was killed, which makes that report seem plausible.
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I've seen information regarding his gun, with some of the claims I actually know about. It was said he was carrying a Sig Sauer P320, which I actually know a ton about, even before this incident. When I was looking for my own personal carry, I was interested in a Sig due to the light compact design made specifically to conceal. After doing research many spoke about that model being kind of dangerous, and known to misfire and have drop saftey issues. This was 2 years ago also.

I'm not saying that factored into any of it though. The footage I seen is overall pretty fucked up, especially if they shot him dead after already being unarmed. That being said, I personally want to see body cam footage, and an actual investigation into it. I'm not trusting anything from social media, or random people online at this point moving forward.
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Posted by serenidad
alright so i just heard about this dude alex being shot by ice. sorry i’m a few days late. i’m in japan so there’s like a time lag.

i watched the liberal take on it as well as the conservative take on it. and there seems to be numerous analysis regarding positioning, timing etc

i watched the video in slow motion and here’s my amateur take on it :

-nine times is way too much. unnecessary.

-miscommunication between agents played a huge role in the unfortunate outcome

-grey shirt should have alerted other ice agents right away that alex had been disarmed. wtf was he doing just casually walking away after he took the gun from alex?

-alex was pepper sprayed before he was on the ground so he couldn’t see properly.

-alex seemingly made a gesture that made ice agent think he was gonna reach for the gun in his side pocket but i don’t know for sure if that was what he was really doing.

grey shirt dude takes alex’s gun from his pocket



green shirt dude reaches for his own gun (at this point, i don’t know if he knows alex is disarmed in this commotion)



green shirt dude gets ready to fire the first shot



grey shirt dude walks away with gun (this is where i was like wtf? did he inform green shirt dude alex was disarmed?)



alex reaches for gun? i can’t be certain though.

alex gets shot once. at this point they didn’t have to shoot him eight more times.



that’s my amateur take. i wanna hear you guys’ take. if anyone wants to share that is.


I’m not sure why the ICE agents shoved the woman. I do not know if she was antagonizing them or what. But Alex got involved and pushed an ICE agent, which is considered assault on a federal LEO.

From there, it escalated and they were trying to detain him. The one ICE agent took his gun away. It’s unclear to me if the gun went off because of the type of gun it was. But some reports are saying it did and that is when they executed him.

They then looked for the gun immediately after he was killed, which makes that report seem plausible.click to expand

I've seen information regarding his gun, with some of the claims I actually know about. It was said he was carrying a Sig Sauer P320, which I actually know a ton about, even before this incident. When I was looking for my own personal carry, I was interested in a Sig due to the light compact design made specifically to conceal. After doing research many spoke about that model being kind of dangerous, and known to misfire and have drop saftey issues. This was 2 years ago also.

I'm not saying that factored into any of it though. The footage I seen is overall pretty fucked up, especially if they shot him dead after already being unarmed. That being said, I personally want to see body cam footage, and an actual investigation into it. I'm not trusting anything from social media, or random people online at this point moving forward.
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Right. I agree with you. It’s a tragedy. They shot him in the back of the head?!?! Execution style .

Personally, I agree with an investigation as well. They are investigating it. There are all sorts of things coming into my feeds about it as well … things about his character - that he was a far left Bernie Sanders supporter and a known ICE agitator. He was supposedly at a protest before and got a broken rib out of it. I don’t know if any of this is true or not… But none of that should have any bearing on him being killed like that.
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alright so i just heard about this dude alex being shot by ice. sorry i’m a few days late. i’m in japan so there’s like a time lag.

i watched the liberal take on it as well as the conservative take on it. and there seems to be numerous analysis regarding positioning, timing etc

i watched the video in slow motion and here’s my amateur take on it :

-nine times is way too much. unnecessary.

-miscommunication between agents played a huge role in the unfortunate outcome

-grey shirt should have alerted other ice agents right away that alex had been disarmed. wtf was he doing just casually walking away after he took the gun from alex?

-alex was pepper sprayed before he was on the ground so he couldn’t see properly.

-alex seemingly made a gesture that made ice agent think he was gonna reach for the gun in his side pocket but i don’t know for sure if that was what he was really doing.

grey shirt dude takes alex’s gun from his pocket



green shirt dude reaches for his own gun (at this point, i don’t know if he knows alex is disarmed in this commotion)



green shirt dude gets ready to fire the first shot



grey shirt dude walks away with gun (this is where i was like wtf? did he inform green shirt dude alex was disarmed?)



alex reaches for gun? i can’t be certain though.

alex gets shot once. at this point they didn’t have to shoot him eight more times.



that’s my amateur take. i wanna hear you guys’ take. if anyone wants to share that is.

I’m not sure why the ICE agents shoved the woman. I do not know if she was antagonizing them or what. But Alex got involved and pushed an ICE agent, which is considered assault on a federal LEO.

From there, it escalated and they were trying to detain him. The one ICE agent took his gun away. It’s unclear to me if the gun went off because of the type of gun it was. But some reports are saying it did and that is when they executed him.

They then looked for the gun immediately after he was killed, which makes that report seem plausible.click to expand


I've seen information regarding his gun, with some of the claims I actually know about. It was said he was carrying a Sig Sauer P320, which I actually know a ton about, even before this incident. When I was looking for my own personal carry, I was interested in a Sig due to the light compact design made specifically to conceal. After doing research many spoke about that model being kind of dangerous, and known to misfire and have drop saftey issues. This was 2 years ago also.

I'm not saying that factored into any of it though. The footage I seen is overall pretty fucked up, especially if they shot him dead after already being unarmed. That being said, I personally want to see body cam footage, and an actual investigation into it. I'm not trusting anything from social media, or random people online at this point moving forward. click to expand

Right. I agree with you. It’s a tragedy. They shot him in the back of the head?!?! Execution style .

Personally, I agree with an investigation as well. They are investigating it. There are all sorts of things coming into my feeds about it as well … things about his character - that he was a far left Bernie Sanders supporter and a known ICE agitator. He was supposedly at a protest before and got a broken rib out of it. I don’t know if any of this is true or not… But none of that should have any bearing on him being killed like that.
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There are a million different things that can be said, and I can view it from all sides. Logically, emotionally, and see/ feel all of it. I'll be 100% honest, I mostly hate when people cheer for murder, especially when it is fuled by politicians that overall don't care about the people. I was appalled of what people said and how they acted about Charlie. I feel the exact same about this, and Renee. I understand the millions of reason why, but will never understand people simply viewing it turning into animals. I understand its human nature, but it's disgusting.

Personally I don't even enjoy the idea of a true psychopath getting the death penalty. I understand why, and also understand I live in a world where higher people make the laws. I also do think that in some cases, people should die. That reality doesn't being me joy or excitement though. Its like their whole life leads up to something truly tragic, and now the justice system is going to end their story. No chance to reflect, no chance for redemption. Again I understand why, but it doesn't make me happy or feel good. So when I see social media nowadays all I can think is what the fuck is wrong with all these people?
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Federal officials have acknowledged TWO federal agents fired their weapons in the incident that killed Alex Pretti.

Looking more like an accidental discharge from 1 and the other followed suit with sympathetic fire. 10 shots in 5 seconds.

They are putting people in situations they aren’t trained or prepared to handle and then lie when the most predictable outcome happens.

It was one thing when it was a lesbian woman. She’s easy to villainize. But a white, cishet, legally armed man who protects women and dedicates his life to take care of Americas dying veterans…proves how far you’ll go to twist reality to justify continuing to lick Trumps asshole
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The 5 year old arrived in this country with his father, lawfully, at a port of entry. “Just come the right away” right? They did. They are not here illegally. They have a pending asylum case. You think a father uproots their life, risks a dangerous journey to immigrate with his son if the intent was to harm or abandon the child? If the goal was to neglect or harm his child he could have stayed in his own damn country and it would have been easier and cheaper to harm him. I know I’m asking too much for you stupid fucks to understand basic logic…if you did we wouldn’t be in this position in the first place.

ErRRRrr I’m sniffling drooling retard: Obama deported more people!

Correct Obama had more formal deportations than Trump. The keyword here is the word formal. There was due process. Trump is undermining due process.

Being in the US illegally is not a criminal offense. It’s a civil violation. The constitution protects every person in this country, not just US citizens.


if they’re here legally and haven’t committed any crime, they shouldn’t be deported or arrested. i agree with you.

if they’re here legally, they can show their documents and solve any misunderstandings, right?

and i already said i’m in two minds about ICE. i’ve expressed my disapproval and concerns about how that lady was treated. i’m not quite sure if most liberals would express concerns or disapprovals about any conservative who gets killed but that’s another topic for another day, i guess :/

i understand liberals are passionate about human rights not being violated and innocent lives being lost.

it’d be nice if they could also display that same amount of passion and sense of justice towards the victims of crimes committed by illegal aliens too. otherwise your passion is selective and misplaced.

i don’t think people are necessarily “stupid fucks” for wanting to protect their countries from criminals and illegals by having strict borders. don’t most people lock the front doors of their house at night when they go to sleep?

i mean i don’t think you guys are “stupid fucks” for wanting non-illegals to not be harassed. i don’t want non-illegal, law-abiding citizens to be harassed either. so we at least agree on that.

and if you’ve read the thread, you’ll know i’m not a trump supporter (i even told solo i don’t fully trust the trump administration and that i’m neither a liberal nor a conservative and you see me agreeing with solo on many of his points throughout this thread too and him agreeing with some of my points about radical islam) so i dunno what trump has to do with people wanting safer countries. i don’t really care who is doing the deporting of criminals and illegals as long as they do it.

hell, if Kim Jong Un from North Korea came and deported all the criminals and illegals, i’d still be satisfied.

also, thanks for being here and stating your opinion. i actually wanna talk to liberals and hear what they have to say as well.click to expand

The Irish were called stupid, dirty, lazy, diseased criminals when they arrived in America.

Germans were accused of refusing to assimilate. Political radicals and alcoholics.

Jews, Italians, Chinese….

“Immigrant crime” is recycled moral panic. It’s lazy and dishonest and ALWAYS ends with society embarrassing itself in hindsight.

Also it’d be nice if you all displayed the same amount of passion and sense of justice towards the victims of crimes committed by the vastly larger sources of violence. Otherwise your outrage is selective and misplaced. click to expand


so, let me get this straight. you think immigrants from germany ,italy ,china, ireland, jews etc basically people from relatively civilized non-third world countries are the same as illegals from third world countries who aren’t as civilized? you think they behave the same? you think they have the exact same capacity to follow rules? you think people whose religion teaches them that it’s okay to kill/rape nonbelievers are the same as those people from italy, ireland etc? the people who other middle eastern countries didn’t even want because of how dangerous they are ? you think it’s perfectly fine for the west to accept those people with open arms? you think the migrants pouring in everyday are of good quality? you think they’re only sending us their best people? you really think that ? how is my passion selective if i’m telling you i care deeply when liberals are killed ? do you liberals care for these people below ? why are you guys more outraged about an illegal getting deported than the deaths of innocent people who belonged in that country to begin with?


Id be willing to have this conversation if you can find 3 separate reputable peer reviewed studies that show immigrants IN THE US commit crime at a higher rate than US born Americans. click to expand


oh, i don’t think illegal immigrants commit more crimes than US borns. i never once made that claim and never will without seeing some proper data. but does that mean illegal immigration shouldn’t be dealt with harshly? does that mean we should import uncivilized people into a relatively civilized country with open arms without properly background checking them first? do you know how many people came into a country as “asylum seekers” but later turned out to be criminals in disguise? fake asylum claims are on the rise.

the point i’m trying to make is there are people who didn’t have to die had these illegals not been in the country in the first place.

prevention of crime is what i’m talking about. why go out of our way to import more crime?click to expand

Thanks. If you agree immigrants don’t commit more crime, then “importing crime” isn’t a factual claim.
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letting in illegals without doing background checks isn’t fair to people who come here legally and do things the right way.

why are illegals allowed to cut in line?

cuz you feel sorry for them?

you can’t govern a country on emotions alone.

also most of these asylum seekers don’t really work. many can’t even read or write or speak the language of their host country.

so naturally, many of them will get on welfare (have a bunch of kids while they’re here, get even more welfare) or commit crime in order to eat/survive, leaving the people who really need welfare (homeless veterans, working single moms etc) out in the cold.

not exactly “enriching” the country, is it? :/

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alright so i just heard about this dude alex being shot by ice. sorry i’m a few days late. i’m in japan so there’s like a time lag.

i watched the liberal take on it as well as the conservative take on it. and there seems to be numerous analysis regarding positioning, timing etc

i watched the video in slow motion and here’s my amateur take on it :

-nine times is way too much. unnecessary.

-miscommunication between agents played a huge role in the unfortunate outcome

-grey shirt should have alerted other ice agents right away that alex had been disarmed. wtf was he doing just casually walking away after he took the gun from alex?

-alex was pepper sprayed before he was on the ground so he couldn’t see properly.

-alex seemingly made a gesture that made ice agent think he was gonna reach for the gun in his side pocket but i don’t know for sure if that was what he was really doing.

grey shirt dude takes alex’s gun from his pocket



green shirt dude reaches for his own gun (at this point, i don’t know if he knows alex is disarmed in this commotion)



green shirt dude gets ready to fire the first shot



grey shirt dude walks away with gun (this is where i was like wtf? did he inform green shirt dude alex was disarmed?)



alex reaches for gun? i can’t be certain though.

alex gets shot once. at this point they didn’t have to shoot him eight more times.



that’s my amateur take. i wanna hear you guys’ take. if anyone wants to share that is.

Give us your amateur take leading up to him being on the ground. What justification do you see for pepper spraying him and tackling him to the ground.
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yeah i didn’t think pepper spraying him was necessary in that situation.
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alright so i just heard about this dude alex being shot by ice. sorry i’m a few days late. i’m in japan so there’s like a time lag.

i watched the liberal take on it as well as the conservative take on it. and there seems to be numerous analysis regarding positioning, timing etc

i watched the video in slow motion and here’s my amateur take on it :

-nine times is way too much. unnecessary.

-miscommunication between agents played a huge role in the unfortunate outcome

-grey shirt should have alerted other ice agents right away that alex had been disarmed. wtf was he doing just casually walking away after he took the gun from alex?

-alex was pepper sprayed before he was on the ground so he couldn’t see properly.

-alex seemingly made a gesture that made ice agent think he was gonna reach for the gun in his side pocket but i don’t know for sure if that was what he was really doing.

grey shirt dude takes alex’s gun from his pocket



green shirt dude reaches for his own gun (at this point, i don’t know if he knows alex is disarmed in this commotion)



green shirt dude gets ready to fire the first shot



grey shirt dude walks away with gun (this is where i was like wtf? did he inform green shirt dude alex was disarmed?)



alex reaches for gun? i can’t be certain though.

alex gets shot once. at this point they didn’t have to shoot him eight more times.



that’s my amateur take. i wanna hear you guys’ take. if anyone wants to share that is.

I’m not sure why the ICE agents shoved the woman. I do not know if she was antagonizing them or what. But Alex got involved and pushed an ICE agent, which is considered assault on a federal LEO.

From there, it escalated and they were trying to detain him. The one ICE agent took his gun away. It’s unclear to me if the gun went off because of the type of gun it was. But some reports are saying it did and that is when they executed him.

They then looked for the gun immediately after he was killed, which makes that report seem plausible.
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“It’s unclear to me if the gun went off because of the type of gun it was. But some reports are saying it did and that is when they executed him.”

oh ok. i still think shooting him that many times while he was on the ground wasn’t necessary.

i looked up whether “interfering with arrests” was illegal and found this:

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Do you think medical professionals who threaten the care/lack of care to MAGA, should lose their professional license? Well, it is happening….

Liberal nurse in Florida, Erik Martindale, just had his LICENSE REVOKED after he vowed to never give anesthesia to MAGA.

AG JAMES UTHMEIER: "Effective today, Erik Martindale is no longer a registered nurse in Florida. Healthcare is not contingent on political beliefs, and we have zero tolerance for partisans who put politics above their ethical duty to treat patients with the respect and dignity they deserve."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/florida-nurse-voluntarily-gives-license-235050361.html

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alright so i just heard about this dude alex being shot by ice. sorry i’m a few days late. i’m in japan so there’s like a time lag.

i watched the liberal take on it as well as the conservative take on it. and there seems to be numerous analysis regarding positioning, timing etc

i watched the video in slow motion and here’s my amateur take on it :

-nine times is way too much. unnecessary.

-miscommunication between agents played a huge role in the unfortunate outcome

-grey shirt should have alerted other ice agents right away that alex had been disarmed. wtf was he doing just casually walking away after he took the gun from alex?

-alex was pepper sprayed before he was on the ground so he couldn’t see properly.

-alex seemingly made a gesture that made ice agent think he was gonna reach for the gun in his side pocket but i don’t know for sure if that was what he was really doing.

grey shirt dude takes alex’s gun from his pocket



green shirt dude reaches for his own gun (at this point, i don’t know if he knows alex is disarmed in this commotion)



green shirt dude gets ready to fire the first shot



grey shirt dude walks away with gun (this is where i was like wtf? did he inform green shirt dude alex was disarmed?)



alex reaches for gun? i can’t be certain though.

alex gets shot once. at this point they didn’t have to shoot him eight more times.



that’s my amateur take. i wanna hear you guys’ take. if anyone wants to share that is.


I’m not sure why the ICE agents shoved the woman. I do not know if she was antagonizing them or what. But Alex got involved and pushed an ICE agent, which is considered assault on a federal LEO.

From there, it escalated and they were trying to detain him. The one ICE agent took his gun away. It’s unclear to me if the gun went off because of the type of gun it was. But some reports are saying it did and that is when they executed him.

They then looked for the gun immediately after he was killed, which makes that report seem plausible. click to expand

“It’s unclear to me if the gun went off because of the type of gun it was. But some reports are saying it did and that is when they executed him.”

oh ok. i still think shooting him that many times while he was on the ground wasn’t necessary.

i looked up whether “interfering with arrests” was illegal and found this:















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I wonder if was premeditated.

Here is Alex Pretti in a previous confrontation with ICE agents and a leftist giving a narrative.

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This sums up just a portion of what is going on in Virginia:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/virginia-democrats-introduce-flood-of-new-tax-proposals-despite-running-on-affordability/ar-AA1VbvB4

"Virginia Democrats have introduced more than 50 new tax proposals this legislative session."

And in the meantime:

https://wabcradio.com/2026/01/27/total-con-job-virginia-democrats-push-massive-tax-hikes-then-vote-themselves-a-150-raise/

"Virginia Democrats Move to Double Lawmakers’ Pay After Running on ‘Affordability’

Democrats in Virginia are facing growing criticism after moving to more than double their own salaries, just months after campaigning on affordability and relief for working families."