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Our moral compass contributes to our overall health and stability
What's your moral compass like?
Does anything in this topic/ post trigger you at all?
Have you ever had to deal with or known anyone with a low/ weak moral compass?
Does anything in this topic/ post trigger you at all?
Have you ever had to deal with or known anyone with a low/ weak moral compass?
I knew someone who fits what you describe
I'm more haphazard
I'm more haphazard
I feel like we were re-engineered by the anunaki to hoard gold
I think some of us simply can't have a strong moral compass and were born to be laveyan Satanists
Like I could try but my brain isn't wired to be humanitarian by principle
Like I could try but my brain isn't wired to be humanitarian by principle
Posted by s-
(i no belv bad or good ppl)
a person who has sociopathy sy work for a civil right & no hurt any1
I honestly don't consider having a strong moral compass to have anything to do with being correct or incorrect or being a good or bad person. But you're right, you don't need a good moral compass to live your life not hurting anyone. Many people are harmless regardless.
sometimes i feel like the more irresponsible you are, the more favors you get from the world 🤷🤷
Posted by clare
What's your moral compass like?
Does anything in this topic/ post trigger you at all?
Have you ever had to deal with or known anyone with a low/ weak moral compass?
@clare
I have an extremely strong moral compass. I do not let others do any sort of peer pressure when they have a lower moral compass. In fact, I do not hang out with them much. Yes, I have dealt with others who have a lower moral compass/weak moral compass.
Posted by clare
What's your moral compass like?
Does anything in this topic/ post trigger you at all?
Have you ever had to deal with or known anyone with a low/ weak moral compass?
As described by the OP, I'd like to think I have a strong one, but its always a work in progress.
I actually have a family member who is dealing with a narcissist (well, the family kind of is indirectly, but one is dealing directly). Dealing with that individual's "antics" is not fun, so most choose not to deal with that person as much as they can help it.
It's interesting this topic came up, given the furor over a person getting banned for violating the TOS of this site. Its not the first time that individual has been banned for similar behavior in the past (and a big reason users in the past quit discussing things, because he would dislike something and single out that individual(s) to bully) , and from what I understand, he was permabanned at another astro website (Lindaland).
What is remarkable is people defending that behavior--not necessarily because they engage in or support what that person does, but because they've taken sides.
Even more remarkable is the statement 'he did nothing wrong'--going back to the topic, THAT is an indicator of a low moral compass, imho.
I agree with the original post. But none of us are perfect and the only personality that I would say that would embody a strong moral compass to perfection is actually a marvel comic book character.
The thing is, that's just a character and even the actor who played him has several shortcomings of his own personally.
So I tend to give myself a decent amount of grace and just slightly less to everybody else until I can figure them out. Sometimes it takes minutes, maybe a couple of hours if they're good at hiding.
I know where everybody stands here already. Plenty of examples.
The thing is, that's just a character and even the actor who played him has several shortcomings of his own personally.
So I tend to give myself a decent amount of grace and just slightly less to everybody else until I can figure them out. Sometimes it takes minutes, maybe a couple of hours if they're good at hiding.
I know where everybody stands here already. Plenty of examples.
Moral compass is socially engineered, adding to Andy's comment, because you know we have to appear to be the evolved ones.
Our beliefs and values (thoughts) and our responses (actions and behaviors) are taught to us. However, they don't always align with intent. Misalignments occur when thoughts, actions and behaviors differ. Sometimes, positive in thought yet negative in action/behavior or vice versa i.e. cruel to be kind. Ultimately this is determined by perception filtered by different lenses. Intent serves as guidance of moral compass but its actions, behaviors, thoughts and external perception that often pull in competing directions.
Moral compass is deeply embedded in almost all religions but it doesn't take into account spirituality which provides a more clearer direction. Spirituality is the hidden force and requires collective effort. Religion presents itself as fostering collective effort but often constructed on hierarchy and individualism. So the whole plot of collectivism is lost. Religion works by highlighting contrast instead of having to embrace the interconnectedness of nature and in essence, spirituality itself. Nature already tells us how it works but we choose to exclude ourselves from it, so we're in this aimless journey. Trees itself are connected from above and below. On the other hand, look at us, we can be glued with the latest technology yet so far removed from one another.
Our beliefs and values (thoughts) and our responses (actions and behaviors) are taught to us. However, they don't always align with intent. Misalignments occur when thoughts, actions and behaviors differ. Sometimes, positive in thought yet negative in action/behavior or vice versa i.e. cruel to be kind. Ultimately this is determined by perception filtered by different lenses. Intent serves as guidance of moral compass but its actions, behaviors, thoughts and external perception that often pull in competing directions.
Moral compass is deeply embedded in almost all religions but it doesn't take into account spirituality which provides a more clearer direction. Spirituality is the hidden force and requires collective effort. Religion presents itself as fostering collective effort but often constructed on hierarchy and individualism. So the whole plot of collectivism is lost. Religion works by highlighting contrast instead of having to embrace the interconnectedness of nature and in essence, spirituality itself. Nature already tells us how it works but we choose to exclude ourselves from it, so we're in this aimless journey. Trees itself are connected from above and below. On the other hand, look at us, we can be glued with the latest technology yet so far removed from one another.
Posted by virgoOPPP
sometimes i feel like the more irresponsible you are, the more favors you get from the world 🤷🤷
Definitely see where you're coming from with this. Like a great moral compass requires autonomy and leads to an individuality that can look lonely in many social settings. Often the compass slips when people want to feel part of a group or be included. Or feel loved. Fill in the blanks.
Posted by CancerOnTheCuspPosted by clare
What's your moral compass like?
Does anything in this topic/ post trigger you at all?
Have you ever had to deal with or known anyone with a low/ weak moral compass?
As described by the OP, I'd like to think I have a strong one, but its always a work in progress.
I actually have a family member who is dealing with a narcissist (well, the family kind of is indirectly, but one is dealing directly). Dealing with that individual's "antics" is not fun, so most choose not to deal with that person as much as they can help it.
It's interesting this topic came up, given the furor over a person getting banned for violating the TOS of this site. Its not the first time that individual has been banned for similar behavior in the past (and a big reason users in the past quit discussing things, because he would dislike something and single out that individual(s) to bully) , and from what I understand, he was permabanned at another astro website (Lindaland).
What is remarkable is people defending that behavior--not necessarily because they engage in or support what that person does, but because they've taken sides.
Even more remarkable is the statement 'he did nothing wrong'--going back to the topic, THAT is an indicator of a low moral compass, imho.click to expand
It's almost like in Lord of the Fiies when there's less governance/ loose moderation and behaviours and collective views become more primitive in nature. There's still a lingering tendency for the fantasy of the underground/ cult-like feel that dxp used to have i think. But tos are tos and these days things are a bit more humane around here.
Posted by WarAngel79
I agree with the original post. But none of us are perfect and the only personality that I would say that would embody a strong moral compass to perfection is actually a marvel comic book character.
The thing is, that's just a character and even the actor who played him has several shortcomings of his own personally.
So I tend to give myself a decent amount of grace and just slightly less to everybody else until I can figure them out. Sometimes it takes minutes, maybe a couple of hours if they're good at hiding.
I know where everybody stands here already. Plenty of examples.
Which marvel character?
Posted by CancerOnTheCuspPosted by clare
What's your moral compass like?
Does anything in this topic/ post trigger you at all?
Have you ever had to deal with or known anyone with a low/ weak moral compass?
As described by the OP, I'd like to think I have a strong one, but its always a work in progress.
I actually have a family member who is dealing with a narcissist (well, the family kind of is indirectly, but one is dealing directly). Dealing with that individual's "antics" is not fun, so most choose not to deal with that person as much as they can help it.
It's interesting this topic came up, given the furor over a person getting banned for violating the TOS of this site. Its not the first time that individual has been banned for similar behavior in the past (and a big reason users in the past quit discussing things, because he would dislike something and single out that individual(s) to bully) , and from what I understand, he was permabanned at another astro website (Lindaland).
What is remarkable is people defending that behavior--not necessarily because they engage in or support what that person does, but because they've taken sides.
Even more remarkable is the statement 'he did nothing wrong'--going back to the topic, THAT is an indicator of a low moral compass, imho.click to expand
Very well said. His behavior is unacceptable and just that there are people who pick his side because of my views says so much. I’m simply hated on this site because of my views. Nothing more, nothing less. I do not go out of my way to attack anyone or to cause problems. Haters going to hate. Just that my views and where I stand ires people to the degree that it does tells me that I am on the right side of history. I always like reading your posts. Keep them coming, @canceronthecusp
Posted by x_cake
Moral compass is socially engineered, adding to Andy's comment, because you know we have to appear to be the evolved ones.
Our beliefs and values (thoughts) and our responses (actions and behaviors) are taught to us. However, they don't always align with intent. Misalignments occur when thoughts, actions and behaviors differ. Sometimes, positive in thought yet negative in action/behavior or vice versa i.e. cruel to be kind. Ultimately this is determined by perception filtered by different lenses. Intent serves as guidance of moral compass but its actions, behaviors, thoughts and external perception that often pull in competing directions.
Moral compass is deeply embedded in almost all religions but it doesn't take into account spirituality which provides a more clearer direction. Spirituality is the hidden force and requires collective effort. Religion presents itself as fostering collective effort but often constructed on hierarchy and individualism. So the whole plot of collectivism is lost. Religion works by highlighting contrast instead of having to embrace the interconnectedness of nature and in essence, spirituality itself. Nature already tells us how it works but we choose to exclude ourselves from it, so we're in this aimless journey. Trees itself are connected from above and below. On the other hand, look at us, we can be glued with the latest technology yet so far removed from one another.
True. The tree of life 🌳
Intention is so important to me. We can do things unconsciously and do harm with good intention, but there's always the opportunity of a learning curve presented.
The only thing I question is belief and value being a thought process, as i experience mine at a soul level that I believe the thinking mind serves as a blockade to.
Also Ands' post.. didn't realise that's what he meant. Socially engineered moral compass which i guess i touched upon in my reference to Lord of the Flies. Traditions, roots and their continued presence are so important.
I need to read on the anunaki, looks so interesting. There's some more ancient civilisation research i want to do as well. I'm avoiding it and need to figure out why.
Posted by clarePosted by x_cake
Moral compass is socially engineered, adding to Andy's comment, because you know we have to appear to be the evolved ones.
Our beliefs and values (thoughts) and our responses (actions and behaviors) are taught to us. However, they don't always align with intent. Misalignments occur when thoughts, actions and behaviors differ. Sometimes, positive in thought yet negative in action/behavior or vice versa i.e. cruel to be kind. Ultimately this is determined by perception filtered by different lenses. Intent serves as guidance of moral compass but its actions, behaviors, thoughts and external perception that often pull in competing directions.
Moral compass is deeply embedded in almost all religions but it doesn't take into account spirituality which provides a more clearer direction. Spirituality is the hidden force and requires collective effort. Religion presents itself as fostering collective effort but often constructed on hierarchy and individualism. So the whole plot of collectivism is lost. Religion works by highlighting contrast instead of having to embrace the interconnectedness of nature and in essence, spirituality itself. Nature already tells us how it works but we choose to exclude ourselves from it, so we're in this aimless journey. Trees itself are connected from above and below. On the other hand, look at us, we can be glued with the latest technology yet so far removed from one another.
True. The tree of life 🌳
Intention is so important to me. We can do things unconsciously and do harm with good intention, but there's always the opportunity of a learning curve presented.
The only thing I question is belief and value being a thought process, as i experience mine at a soul level that I believe the thinking mind serves as a blockade to.
Also Ands' post.. didn't realise that's what he meant. Socially engineered moral compass which i guess i touched upon in my reference to Lord of the Flies. Traditions, roots and their continued presence are so important.
I need to read on the anunaki, looks so interesting. There's some more ancient civilisation research i want to do as well. I'm avoiding it and need to figure out why.click to expand
I believe most souls are tarnished because of the heavy push towards individualism and away from interconnectedness.
To get back to the soul is to get back into the community that focuses on collective transformation which transpires by providing support to every individual.
Posted by x_cakePosted by clarePosted by x_cakeTrue. The tree of life 🌳
Moral compass is socially engineered, adding to Andy's comment, because you know we have to appear to be the evolved ones.
Our beliefs and values (thoughts) and our responses (actions and behaviors) are taught to us. However, they don't always align with intent. Misalignments occur when thoughts, actions and behaviors differ. Sometimes, positive in thought yet negative in action/behavior or vice versa i.e. cruel to be kind. Ultimately this is determined by perception filtered by different lenses. Intent serves as guidance of moral compass but its actions, behaviors, thoughts and external perception that often pull in competing directions.
Moral compass is deeply embedded in almost all religions but it doesn't take into account spirituality which provides a more clearer direction. Spirituality is the hidden force and requires collective effort. Religion presents itself as fostering collective effort but often constructed on hierarchy and individualism. So the whole plot of collectivism is lost. Religion works by highlighting contrast instead of having to embrace the interconnectedness of nature and in essence, spirituality itself. Nature already tells us how it works but we choose to exclude ourselves from it, so we're in this aimless journey. Trees itself are connected from above and below. On the other hand, look at us, we can be glued with the latest technology yet so far removed from one another.
Intention is so important to me. We can do things unconsciously and do harm with good intention, but there's always the opportunity of a learning curve presented.
The only thing I question is belief and value being a thought process, as i experience mine at a soul level that I believe the thinking mind serves as a blockade to.
Also Ands' post.. didn't realise that's what he meant. Socially engineered moral compass which i guess i touched upon in my reference to Lord of the Flies. Traditions, roots and their continued presence are so important.
I need to read on the anunaki, looks so interesting. There's some more ancient civilisation research i want to do as well. I'm avoiding it and need to figure out why.
I believe most souls are tarnished because of the heavy push towards individualism and away from interconnectedness.
To get back to the soul is to get back into the community that focuses on collective transformation which transpires by providing support to every individual.click to expand
I believe this too. One of my guides told me that one of the problems with the world today is that too many people are too different. I'm not sure what you make of that but I'm pretty sure she meant it in a very similar thread to what you just said.
Your next sentence reminds me of Caroline Myss, one of my current favourite writers and speakers.
Yawn
One needs to have a set of principles that one can live with.
No one's really going to have a 100% strong moral compass. At the same time, those who have perceived low moral compass is not necessarily someone who doesn't have strong morals, because circumstances do change a person and you don't know enough context.
No one's really going to have a 100% strong moral compass. At the same time, those who have perceived low moral compass is not necessarily someone who doesn't have strong morals, because circumstances do change a person and you don't know enough context.
I have a very nice, very solid moral compass.
I just had to remove the needle because it was causing trouble
I just had to remove the needle because it was causing trouble
Posted by victoria-sakura
One needs to have a set of principles that one can live with.
No one's really going to have a 100% strong moral compass. At the same time, those who have perceived low moral compass is not necessarily someone who doesn't have strong morals, because circumstances do change a person and you don't know enough context.
Right. I've done things I thought I'd never do this past year due to adverse circumstances. But idk, I think bringing myself back to that centre as soon as I can has kept me grounded and on track.
Posted by hydorah
I have a very nice, very solid moral compass.
I just had to remove the needle because it was causing trouble
That sounds reliable.
Posted by clarePosted by WarAngel79
I agree with the original post. But none of us are perfect and the only personality that I would say that would embody a strong moral compass to perfection is actually a marvel comic book character.
The thing is, that's just a character and even the actor who played him has several shortcomings of his own personally.
So I tend to give myself a decent amount of grace and just slightly less to everybody else until I can figure them out. Sometimes it takes minutes, maybe a couple of hours if they're good at hiding.
I know where everybody stands here already. Plenty of examples.
Which marvel character?click to expand
Captain America.
Posted by x_cake
Moral compass is socially engineered, adding to Andy's comment, because you know we have to appear to be the evolved ones.
Our beliefs and values (thoughts) and our responses (actions and behaviors) are taught to us. However, they don't always align with intent. Misalignments occur when thoughts, actions and behaviors differ. Sometimes, positive in thought yet negative in action/behavior or vice versa i.e. cruel to be kind. Ultimately this is determined by perception filtered by different lenses. Intent serves as guidance of moral compass but its actions, behaviors, thoughts and external perception that often pull in competing directions.
Moral compass is deeply embedded in almost all religions but it doesn't take into account spirituality which provides a more clearer direction. Spirituality is the hidden force and requires collective effort. Religion presents itself as fostering collective effort but often constructed on hierarchy and individualism. So the whole plot of collectivism is lost. Religion works by highlighting contrast instead of having to embrace the interconnectedness of nature and in essence, spirituality itself. Nature already tells us how it works but we choose to exclude ourselves from it, so we're in this aimless journey. Trees itself are connected from above and below. On the other hand, look at us, we can be glued with the latest technology yet so far removed from one another.
Follow nature fully and you will become an animal. The world follow fully by nature and human will become beast which live by following their lust and ambition, this world will become a savage world, this world will be for the strong only to live.
Religion(the right religion which teached by god) is what make human a human, civilize creature, not animal.
Posted by ein_da_piscasPosted by x_cake
Moral compass is socially engineered, adding to Andy's comment, because you know we have to appear to be the evolved ones.
Our beliefs and values (thoughts) and our responses (actions and behaviors) are taught to us. However, they don't always align with intent. Misalignments occur when thoughts, actions and behaviors differ. Sometimes, positive in thought yet negative in action/behavior or vice versa i.e. cruel to be kind. Ultimately this is determined by perception filtered by different lenses. Intent serves as guidance of moral compass but its actions, behaviors, thoughts and external perception that often pull in competing directions.
Moral compass is deeply embedded in almost all religions but it doesn't take into account spirituality which provides a more clearer direction. Spirituality is the hidden force and requires collective effort. Religion presents itself as fostering collective effort but often constructed on hierarchy and individualism. So the whole plot of collectivism is lost. Religion works by highlighting contrast instead of having to embrace the interconnectedness of nature and in essence, spirituality itself. Nature already tells us how it works but we choose to exclude ourselves from it, so we're in this aimless journey. Trees itself are connected from above and below. On the other hand, look at us, we can be glued with the latest technology yet so far removed from one another.
Follow nature fully and you will become an animal. The world follow fully by nature and human will become beast which live by following their lust and ambition, this world will become a savage world, this world will be for the strong only to live.
Religion(the right religion which teached by god) is what make human a human, civilize creature, not animal.click to expand
You missed the point and it's already a savage world.
Posted by x_cakePosted by ein_da_piscasPosted by x_cakeFollow nature fully and you will become an animal. The world follow fully by nature and human will become beast which live by following their lust and ambition, this world will become a savage world, this world will be for the strong only to live.
Moral compass is socially engineered, adding to Andy's comment, because you know we have to appear to be the evolved ones.
Our beliefs and values (thoughts) and our responses (actions and behaviors) are taught to us. However, they don't always align with intent. Misalignments occur when thoughts, actions and behaviors differ. Sometimes, positive in thought yet negative in action/behavior or vice versa i.e. cruel to be kind. Ultimately this is determined by perception filtered by different lenses. Intent serves as guidance of moral compass but its actions, behaviors, thoughts and external perception that often pull in competing directions.
Moral compass is deeply embedded in almost all religions but it doesn't take into account spirituality which provides a more clearer direction. Spirituality is the hidden force and requires collective effort. Religion presents itself as fostering collective effort but often constructed on hierarchy and individualism. So the whole plot of collectivism is lost. Religion works by highlighting contrast instead of having to embrace the interconnectedness of nature and in essence, spirituality itself. Nature already tells us how it works but we choose to exclude ourselves from it, so we're in this aimless journey. Trees itself are connected from above and below. On the other hand, look at us, we can be glued with the latest technology yet so far removed from one another.
Religion(the right religion which teached by god) is what make human a human, civilize creature, not animal.
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You missed the point and it's already a savage world.click to expand
No, i dont think i am. If you think right now is savage, you are clearly wrong, right now savagery has been surpressed by law so its not that savage, like example **pe etc is punished etc which gave evil mind fear etc. BUT IF the world goes like a nature then all hell on earth will break lose, everything is acceptable because theres no law, murder, **pe, steal etc etc THAT IS THE GREAT SAVAGE.
The true religion gave human salvation, but only if the person or the world trully follow it, the world now kinda savage because its stray far from the true religion.
disagree with sicietal expectations, but yeah some operate within the bounds of morality, while others exploit the margins for personal gain
Posted by ein_da_piscasPosted by x_cakePosted by ein_da_piscasYou missed the point and it's already a savage world.Posted by x_cake
Moral compass is socially engineered, adding to Andy's comment, because you know we have to appear to be the evolved ones.
Our beliefs and values (thoughts) and our responses (actions and behaviors) are taught to us. However, they don't always align with intent. Misalignments occur when thoughts, actions and behaviors differ. Sometimes, positive in thought yet negative in action/behavior or vice versa i.e. cruel to be kind. Ultimately this is determined by perception filtered by different lenses. Intent serves as guidance of moral compass but its actions, behaviors, thoughts and external perception that often pull in competing directions.
Moral compass is deeply embedded in almost all religions but it doesn't take into account spirituality which provides a more clearer direction. Spirituality is the hidden force and requires collective effort. Religion presents itself as fostering collective effort but often constructed on hierarchy and individualism. So the whole plot of collectivism is lost. Religion works by highlighting contrast instead of having to embrace the interconnectedness of nature and in essence, spirituality itself. Nature already tells us how it works but we choose to exclude ourselves from it, so we're in this aimless journey. Trees itself are connected from above and below. On the other hand, look at us, we can be glued with the latest technology yet so far removed from one another.
Follow nature fully and you will become an animal. The world follow fully by nature and human will become beast which live by following their lust and ambition, this world will become a savage world, this world will be for the strong only to live.
Religion(the right religion which teached by god) is what make human a human, civilize creature, not animal.
click to expand
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No, i dont think i am. If you think right now is savage, you are clearly wrong, right now savagery has been surpressed by law so its not that savage, like example **pe etc is punished etc which gave evil mind fear etc. BUT IF the world goes like a nature then all hell on earth will break lose, everything is acceptable because theres no law, murder, **pe, steal etc etc THAT IS THE GREAT SAVAGE.
The true religion gave human salvation, but only if the person or the world trully follow it, the world now kinda savage because its stray far from the true religion.click to expand
You did. We're our own animal but the way we treat our environment it's as if we're detached from it, we have little appreciation for it.
Profit over our health. So is that what you call evolution?
Systemically killing people is humanitarian?
Posted by x_cakePosted by ein_da_piscasPosted by x_cakeNo, i dont think i am. If you think right now is savage, you are clearly wrong, right now savagery has been surpressed by law so its not that savage, like example **pe etc is punished etc which gave evil mind fear etc. BUT IF the world goes like a nature then all hell on earth will break lose, everything is acceptable because theres no law, murder, **pe, steal etc etc THAT IS THE GREAT SAVAGE.Posted by ein_da_piscasPosted by x_cakeFollow nature fully and you will become an animal. The world follow fully by nature and human will become beast which live by following their lust and ambition, this world will become a savage world, this world will be for the strong only to live.
Moral compass is socially engineered, adding to Andy's comment, because you know we have to appear to be the evolved ones.
Our beliefs and values (thoughts) and our responses (actions and behaviors) are taught to us. However, they don't always align with intent. Misalignments occur when thoughts, actions and behaviors differ. Sometimes, positive in thought yet negative in action/behavior or vice versa i.e. cruel to be kind. Ultimately this is determined by perception filtered by different lenses. Intent serves as guidance of moral compass but its actions, behaviors, thoughts and external perception that often pull in competing directions.
Moral compass is deeply embedded in almost all religions but it doesn't take into account spirituality which provides a more clearer direction. Spirituality is the hidden force and requires collective effort. Religion presents itself as fostering collective effort but often constructed on hierarchy and individualism. So the whole plot of collectivism is lost. Religion works by highlighting contrast instead of having to embrace the interconnectedness of nature and in essence, spirituality itself. Nature already tells us how it works but we choose to exclude ourselves from it, so we're in this aimless journey. Trees itself are connected from above and below. On the other hand, look at us, we can be glued with the latest technology yet so far removed from one another.
Religion(the right religion which teached by god) is what make human a human, civilize creature, not animal.
click to expand
You missed the point and it's already a savage world.
click to expand
The true religion gave human salvation, but only if the person or the world trully follow it, the world now kinda savage because its stray far from the true religion.
click to expand
You did. We're our own animal but the way we treat our environment it's as if we're detached from it, we have little appreciation for it.
Profit over our health. So is that what you call evolution?
Systemically killing people is humanitarian?click to expand
You’re dodging the point. Living “fully by nature” doesn’t make us wise or spiritual — it makes us animals. Animals live by instincts: strongest survive, weak get crushed. That’s not civilization, that’s savagery.
Yes, even today the strong sometimes crush the weak — but that’s with laws still holding them back. Imagine a world with no divine law, no justice, no restraint. Then it wouldn’t just be “sometimes,” it would be the rule: the strongest take what they want, the weak exist only to be used.
And let’s be real — in that kind of world, women especially would be nothing more than property, trophies, or prey for men stronger than them. No rights, no protection, no justice. That’s not “spiritual,” that’s pure savagery.
Religion is what stops humans from sinking into that animal state. Without it, you wouldn’t even have the safety to sit here and type about “nature.”
The problem today isn’t that we’re “too far from nature,” the problem is we’re too far from true divine law. That’s why greed, profit-over-health, and corruption exist. You call living “fully by nature” “evolution”? No, that’s just humans acting like beasts in suits.
Without God’s law, murder, rape, and exploitation would all be “just natural.” That’s exactly the savage world you think you want.
Sure, some might say "even atheists make law" — but only because they’re still riding on the foundation religion already gave. Without that, law becomes whatever the strong say it is. And then women like you wouldn’t be debating me online, you’d be too busy surviving in a world where being taken, used, or discarded is just ‘nature.’
Posted by clare
A strong moral compass is widely regarded as a positive and healthy aspect of human behavior, fostering a strong sense of identity, promoting emotional well-being, and leading to better relationships and greater success by aligning actions with internal values and encouraging ethical choices. It provides an internal guide for behavior, helps individuals navigate ethical dilemmas, and contributes to personal growth and inner peace.
How a moral compass benefits you
Stronger Self-Identity
A clear moral compass helps you develop integrity, self-worth, and self-confidence.
Increased Happiness
Acting in line with your values promotes happiness and inner peace.
Better Relationships
It allows you to foster positive connections with others by valuing their needs and contributing to a greater good.
Greater Success
Ethical behavior, guided by a moral compass, is associated with improved performance and greater success in life.
Personal Growth
It helps you define yourself, align with societal expectations, and grow as an individual.
Why it's considered healthy
Internal Regulation
A moral compass functions as an internal guide, similar to an "inner managing attorney," helping to navigate the complexities of behavior by weighing internal and external consequences.
Promotes Empathy
It connects to empathy, a key biological and psychological attribute that helps prevent harm to others.
Fosters Social Order
For a social species like humans, a shared sense of morality facilitates cooperation, smooth social relations, and the effective functioning of society.
Potential signs of a less functional moral compass
A lack of internal comfort when contemplating harmful actions.
A tendency towards selfish actions that cause harm to others without internal remorse.
In extreme cases, a severe lack of this internal "stop" signal can be associated with conditions like sociopathy or narcissism.
Strongly DISAGREE!!🤬 That sounds more like LA-LA LAND Utopian BS!
Taking into account the sick nature of the world we live in - the stronger the moral compass - the higher the chances of serious health issues: Stroke, Hearth issues (even an attack at some point), chronic autoimmune disease (eventually, your own body will see/deem your moral compass as an attack on oneself - due to serious anger/stress issues - while dabbling with the immoral state of reality).
Generally speaking - healthy individuals have a "normal" or "adaptive moral compass". The only exceptions: those people who live in their own fantasy bubble - forcefully or unconsciously oblivious to what's happening around them. Kinda like the life story of the one know as Buddha: "Before becoming the Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama was born into immense wealth as a prince, shielded from all suffering in a lavish palace. Though he had everything and was raised with unequivocally strong morals - he lived in a state of deep unconsciousness, unaware of sickness, aging, and death. Only when he left the palace and saw the reality of human suffering did he awaken to the illusion of his privileged life, setting him on the path to enlightenment."
Tho, this days is far easier to live in a bubble (especially a virtual one).
Posted by nevesPosted by clare
A strong moral compass is widely regarded as a positive and healthy aspect of human behavior, fostering a strong sense of identity, promoting emotional well-being, and leading to better relationships and greater success by aligning actions with internal values and encouraging ethical choices. It provides an internal guide for behavior, helps individuals navigate ethical dilemmas, and contributes to personal growth and inner peace.
How a moral compass benefits you
Stronger Self-Identity
A clear moral compass helps you develop integrity, self-worth, and self-confidence.
Increased Happiness
Acting in line with your values promotes happiness and inner peace.
Better Relationships
It allows you to foster positive connections with others by valuing their needs and contributing to a greater good.
Greater Success
Ethical behavior, guided by a moral compass, is associated with improved performance and greater success in life.
Personal Growth
It helps you define yourself, align with societal expectations, and grow as an individual.
Why it's considered healthy
Internal Regulation
A moral compass functions as an internal guide, similar to an "inner managing attorney," helping to navigate the complexities of behavior by weighing internal and external consequences.
Promotes Empathy
It connects to empathy, a key biological and psychological attribute that helps prevent harm to others.
Fosters Social Order
For a social species like humans, a shared sense of morality facilitates cooperation, smooth social relations, and the effective functioning of society.
Potential signs of a less functional moral compass
A lack of internal comfort when contemplating harmful actions.
A tendency towards selfish actions that cause harm to others without internal remorse.
In extreme cases, a severe lack of this internal "stop" signal can be associated with conditions like sociopathy or narcissism.
Strongly DISAGREE!!🤬 That sounds more like LA-LA LAND Utopian BS!
Taking into account the sick nature of the world we live in - the stronger the moral compass - the higher the chances of serious health issues: Stroke, Hearth issues (even an attack at some point), chronic autoimmune disease (eventually, your own body will see/deem your moral compass as an attack on oneself - due to serious anger/stress issues - while dabbling with the immoral state of reality).
Generally speaking - healthy individuals have a "normal" or "adaptive moral compass". The only exceptions: those people who live in their own fantasy bubble - forcefully or unconsciously oblivious to what's happening around them. Kinda like the life story of the one know as Buddha: "Before becoming the Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama was born into immense wealth as a prince, shielded from all suffering in a lavish palace. Though he had everything and was raised with unequivocally strong morals - he lived in a state of deep unconsciousness, unaware of sickness, aging, and death. Only when he left the palace and saw the reality of human suffering did he awaken to the illusion of his privileged life, setting him on the path to enlightenment."
Tho, this days is far easier to live in a bubble (especially a virtual one).click to expand
Yes but not everyone with one has spent their life wrapped in cotton wool or has a low stress tolerance. Sometimes it's with a backbone of steel that's remained strong through a million storms surrounded by adversaries (thinking of the moral standards in films but I've seen some similar in life, even if few and far between). Adaptive one (good one .. sounds healthy yes) and living in a fantasy bubble.. both sound familiar to me. I mean i agree with some here. I don't think it comes with the health problems necessarily, even if not adaptive. Meditation and breath work etc can take care of that. And I think this also depends on consciousness level/ emotional maturity. I've been a bit of a dreamer in the past but I'm much more realistic these days and it's nice to be reminded of the health benefits.
Posted by clarePosted by nevesPosted by clareStrongly DISAGREE!!🤬 That sounds more like LA-LA LAND Utopian BS!
A strong moral compass is widely regarded as a positive and healthy aspect of human behavior, fostering a strong sense of identity, promoting emotional well-being, and leading to better relationships and greater success by aligning actions with internal values and encouraging ethical choices. It provides an internal guide for behavior, helps individuals navigate ethical dilemmas, and contributes to personal growth and inner peace.
How a moral compass benefits you
Stronger Self-Identity
A clear moral compass helps you develop integrity, self-worth, and self-confidence.
Increased Happiness
Acting in line with your values promotes happiness and inner peace.
Better Relationships
It allows you to foster positive connections with others by valuing their needs and contributing to a greater good.
Greater Success
Ethical behavior, guided by a moral compass, is associated with improved performance and greater success in life.
Personal Growth
It helps you define yourself, align with societal expectations, and grow as an individual.
Why it's considered healthy
Internal Regulation
A moral compass functions as an internal guide, similar to an "inner managing attorney," helping to navigate the complexities of behavior by weighing internal and external consequences.
Promotes Empathy
It connects to empathy, a key biological and psychological attribute that helps prevent harm to others.
Fosters Social Order
For a social species like humans, a shared sense of morality facilitates cooperation, smooth social relations, and the effective functioning of society.
Potential signs of a less functional moral compass
A lack of internal comfort when contemplating harmful actions.
A tendency towards selfish actions that cause harm to others without internal remorse.
In extreme cases, a severe lack of this internal "stop" signal can be associated with conditions like sociopathy or narcissism.
Taking into account the sick nature of the world we live in - the stronger the moral compass - the higher the chances of serious health issues: Stroke, Hearth issues (even an attack at some point), chronic autoimmune disease (eventually, your own body will see/deem your moral compass as an attack on oneself - due to serious anger/stress issues - while dabbling with the immoral state of reality).
Generally speaking - healthy individuals have a "normal" or "adaptive moral compass". The only exceptions: those people who live in their own fantasy bubble - forcefully or unconsciously oblivious to what's happening around them. Kinda like the life story of the one know as Buddha: "Before becoming the Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama was born into immense wealth as a prince, shielded from all suffering in a lavish palace. Though he had everything and was raised with unequivocally strong morals - he lived in a state of deep unconsciousness, unaware of sickness, aging, and death. Only when he left the palace and saw the reality of human suffering did he awaken to the illusion of his privileged life, setting him on the path to enlightenment."
Tho, this days is far easier to live in a bubble (especially a virtual one).
click to expand
Yes but not everyone with one has spent their life wrapped in cotton wool or has a low stress tolerance. Sometimes it's with a backbone of steel that's remained strong through a million storms surrounded by adversaries (thinking of the moral standards in films but I've seen some similar in life, even if few and far between). Adaptive one (good one .. sounds healthy yes) and living in a fantasy bubble.. both sound familiar to me. I mean i agree with some here. I don't think it comes with the health problems necessarily, even if not adaptive. Meditation and breath work etc can take care of that. And I think this also depends on consciousness level/ emotional maturity. I've been a bit of a dreamer in the past but I'm much more realistic these days and it's nice to be reminded of the health benefits.click to expand
Superman is a children's movie. If super heroes were real - they'd be more like the ones from the show Bad Boys. I'm talking about real life and real people - where the ones who claim to be morally superior or even praised by others (as judged from the outside) - are usually among the most immoral of people. As was the case even with the one acknowledged as the most morally superior catholic nun (held in such high moral regards - that was deemed as a saint walking among us after her death). While in reality, she was more like a... Hell's Angel....
But that's a figure from the past. There's plenty to chose from - even in 2025, a whole nation even - such as... Israel. Always held in high regard as morally superior and such - cause of the holocaust, and now - they're the ones committing a genocide and proud about it to because.... they have this strong sense of divine morality (as if they're God's hand of justice - as they keep praising themselves). Even a famous Jew who witnessed the holocaust is like wtf...
What can you do... they have nukes and U.S.A. is by their side (part of it at least - the part with a strong moral compass). Almost everyone can fake this moral superior compass - and the majority actually do that (for the sake of their public image) - but the majority are impostors "objectively speaking". The ones who actually care... and believe in what they say - are broken by their moral beliefs - while facing the reality of our world. But hey, spiritual narcissism is rather trendy in many shapes this days - be it the old school religious type or woke individuals living in their fantasy bubble.
Posted by nevesPosted by clarePosted by nevesYes but not everyone with one has spent their life wrapped in cotton wool or has a low stress tolerance. Sometimes it's with a backbone of steel that's remained strong through a million storms surrounded by adversaries (thinking of the moral standards in films but I've seen some similar in life, even if few and far between). Adaptive one (good one .. sounds healthy yes) and living in a fantasy bubble.. both sound familiar to me. I mean i agree with some here. I don't think it comes with the health problems necessarily, even if not adaptive. Meditation and breath work etc can take care of that. And I think this also depends on consciousness level/ emotional maturity. I've been a bit of a dreamer in the past but I'm much more realistic these days and it's nice to be reminded of the health benefits.Posted by clare
A strong moral compass is widely regarded as a positive and healthy aspect of human behavior, fostering a strong sense of identity, promoting emotional well-being, and leading to better relationships and greater success by aligning actions with internal values and encouraging ethical choices. It provides an internal guide for behavior, helps individuals navigate ethical dilemmas, and contributes to personal growth and inner peace.
How a moral compass benefits you
Stronger Self-Identity
A clear moral compass helps you develop integrity, self-worth, and self-confidence.
Increased Happiness
Acting in line with your values promotes happiness and inner peace.
Better Relationships
It allows you to foster positive connections with others by valuing their needs and contributing to a greater good.
Greater Success
Ethical behavior, guided by a moral compass, is associated with improved performance and greater success in life.
Personal Growth
It helps you define yourself, align with societal expectations, and grow as an individual.
Why it's considered healthy
Internal Regulation
A moral compass functions as an internal guide, similar to an "inner managing attorney," helping to navigate the complexities of behavior by weighing internal and external consequences.
Promotes Empathy
It connects to empathy, a key biological and psychological attribute that helps prevent harm to others.
Fosters Social Order
For a social species like humans, a shared sense of morality facilitates cooperation, smooth social relations, and the effective functioning of society.
Potential signs of a less functional moral compass
A lack of internal comfort when contemplating harmful actions.
A tendency towards selfish actions that cause harm to others without internal remorse.
In extreme cases, a severe lack of this internal "stop" signal can be associated with conditions like sociopathy or narcissism.
Strongly DISAGREE!!🤬 That sounds more like LA-LA LAND Utopian BS!
Taking into account the sick nature of the world we live in - the stronger the moral compass - the higher the chances of serious health issues: Stroke, Hearth issues (even an attack at some point), chronic autoimmune disease (eventually, your own body will see/deem your moral compass as an attack on oneself - due to serious anger/stress issues - while dabbling with the immoral state of reality).
Generally speaking - healthy individuals have a "normal" or "adaptive moral compass". The only exceptions: those people who live in their own fantasy bubble - forcefully or unconsciously oblivious to what's happening around them. Kinda like the life story of the one know as Buddha: "Before becoming the Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama was born into immense wealth as a prince, shielded from all suffering in a lavish palace. Though he had everything and was raised with unequivocally strong morals - he lived in a state of deep unconsciousness, unaware of sickness, aging, and death. Only when he left the palace and saw the reality of human suffering did he awaken to the illusion of his privileged life, setting him on the path to enlightenment."
Tho, this days is far easier to live in a bubble (especially a virtual one).
click to expand
Superman is a children's movie. If super heroes were real - they'd be more like the ones from the show Bad Boys. I'm talking about real life and real people - where the ones who claim to be morally superior or even praised by others (as judged from the outside) - are usually among the most immoral of people. As was the case even with the one acknowledged as the most morally superior catholic nun (held in such high moral regards - that was deemed as a saint walking among us after her death). While in reality, she was more like a... Hell's Angel....
I know exactly what you're saying. I've even been in close contact with an example of this. Very powerful man, public figure, well-liked and on the surface morally just, almost perfect. Couldn't fault at all. The deeper truth was he was massively controlling and used his powers against others. He was akin to a full-on villain from one of these movies. Big time as well. It seeded from his heightened sense of entitlement due to a spiritually 'superior' self-righteousness. A misused power that doubled back on himself and became his own negative karma. A specific archetype, one that comes about when a certain level of power and consciousness is 'unlocked' and the test was .. now you have power (that inevitably comes hand-in-hand with spiritual consciousness and righteousness) .. so how are you going to handle it and use it, especially when your time of vulnerability comes and the pressure is on. These people failed that test. Their ego came first. Righteousness turns to self-righteousness and personal power turns to greed. Not everybody fails that test, but those who don't won't stand out from the crowd so much for that. However they are there.
I'm not a woke person in a fantasy bubble btw. Really interesting post.
Posted by clare
A strong moral compass is widely regarded as a positive and healthy aspect of human behavior, fostering a strong sense of identity, promoting emotional well-being, and leading to better relationships and greater success by aligning actions with internal values and encouraging ethical choices. It provides an internal guide for behavior, helps individuals navigate ethical dilemmas, and contributes to personal growth and inner peace.
How a moral compass benefits you
Stronger Self-Identity
A clear moral compass helps you develop integrity, self-worth, and self-confidence.
Increased Happiness
Acting in line with your values promotes happiness and inner peace.
Better Relationships
It allows you to foster positive connections with others by valuing their needs and contributing to a greater good.
Greater Success
Ethical behavior, guided by a moral compass, is associated with improved performance and greater success in life.
Personal Growth
It helps you define yourself, align with societal expectations, and grow as an individual.
Why it's considered healthy
Internal Regulation
A moral compass functions as an internal guide, similar to an "inner managing attorney," helping to navigate the complexities of behavior by weighing internal and external consequences.
Promotes Empathy
It connects to empathy, a key biological and psychological attribute that helps prevent harm to others.
Fosters Social Order
For a social species like humans, a shared sense of morality facilitates cooperation, smooth social relations, and the effective functioning of society.
Potential signs of a less functional moral compass
A lack of internal comfort when contemplating harmful actions.
A tendency towards selfish actions that cause harm to others without internal remorse.
In extreme cases, a severe lack of this internal "stop" signal can be associated with conditions like sociopathy or narcissism.
Morality is a twin-sided sword. One persons trash is other persons treasure.
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How a moral compass benefits you
Stronger Self-Identity
A clear moral compass helps you develop integrity, self-worth, and self-confidence.
Increased Happiness
Acting in line with your values promotes happiness and inner peace.
Better Relationships
It allows you to foster positive connections with others by valuing their needs and contributing to a greater good.
Greater Success
Ethical behavior, guided by a moral compass, is associated with improved performance and greater success in life.
Personal Growth
It helps you define yourself, align with societal expectations, and grow as an individual.
Why it's considered healthy
Internal Regulation
A moral compass functions as an internal guide, similar to an "inner managing attorney," helping to navigate the complexities of behavior by weighing internal and external consequences.
Promotes Empathy
It connects to empathy, a key biological and psychological attribute that helps prevent harm to others.
Fosters Social Order
For a social species like humans, a shared sense of morality facilitates cooperation, smooth social relations, and the effective functioning of society.
Potential signs of a less functional moral compass
A lack of internal comfort when contemplating harmful actions.
A tendency towards selfish actions that cause harm to others without internal remorse.
In extreme cases, a severe lack of this internal "stop" signal can be associated with conditions like sociopathy or narcissism.