Help with a Leo sun Pisces moon guy

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So I've been dating this Leo guy with Pisces moon for 3 weeks (I'm a Scorpio sun, Aquarius ascendant and Libra moon). We went out before and had recently got back together. He broke up with me before and said he regretted it and wants to take thing seriously from now on.

My problem is that I've hardly seen or heard from him.In fact I've only seen him twice since we got back together!This guy goes from completely gone from my life for two weeks to calling me and texting me (and yelling verbal abuse when I don't respond fast enough) when he feels like seeing me.

My gut feeling tells me that he is seeing other people and is using me as a fall back cushion when no one else wants to see him. He tells me that he wants to get married and be together in person, but when we make plans he never follows through.He always says he's busy with work.So if a leo guy says one thing but does another is my gut instinct onto something?

I am very strongly affected by Libra in my chart so I don't know how to deal with his hot and cold emotional displays. Usually I just ignore it. I prefer civilized debates and meaningful conversation.

It's only been three weeks but I'm already thinking of calling quits (maybe its my Sag venus) and moving on, but I'm trying not to since I have been dating so much I've lost count. I read somewhere Scorpio sun with Libra moons are "serial daters." and I don't want to just continue to date heaps of people anymore. I'm 23 and I'm wanting to settle down with a normal guy, is it too much to ask? Some days I just want to get lobotomy or become a nun so I don't have to deal with this relationship thing.

Do Leo men really put work before love or is he cheating??
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Posted by seraph
Leo Sun, Pisces Moon = lousy Sun-Moon pairing. One of the worst for a Leo.

That's all I have to add, because that alone addresses a lot of questions.



Hmm-- and here I thought it just made me a bit more whimsical than my neighbor.


Posted by Jynja
Is this your observation, or do you consider this astrological truth.

Because, Pisces moon on Leo is an even better (astrologically) placement than Cancer moon and then Scorpio moon. The quincunx here is not as mundane, for lack of a better word, as many others.

For one, Neptune is exalted in Leo. Neptune fuels Leo's dreams of grandeur, fame, fortune, spotlight. Also, Leo's intuition is heightened with a Pisces moon making it's bearer more psychic than any of the other fire signs. While the pairing might make a Leo less drawn to material possessions and, perhaps make him less self-centered, the pairing is easier to bear for a Leo because it's mutable nature allows the sun-ruled person to adjust effortlessly to situations even though they continue to pursue their fixed ideas behind the scenes.

The only other pair that allows this adaptability is Leo with Virgo moon, but they tend to need practical/logical reasons to adjust whereas Pisces moon Leos pull the knowledge for that need virtually from thin air.

It's not a difficult placement to bear like crazy Cancer moon, or nature-conflicting Scorpio moon.



*impressed*


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As promised, here's the thread. Some interesting morsels in there about this subject.

http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/leo/Someone-PLEASE-HELP-ME!!!-3419674.asp
I'm not really in the frame of mind right now to discuss it further, so if there are any questions, I'm sure Jynja can answer them, or I can - but at some later point.
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Nice. Glad you took the time to find that. 🙂
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Posted by scorpioeagle

So if a leo guy says one thing but does another is my gut instinct onto something?

I am very strongly affected by Libra in my chart so I don't know how to deal with his hot and cold emotional displays. Usually I just ignore it....

It's only been three weeks but I'm already thinking of calling quits (maybe its my Sag venus) and moving on...

Do Leo men really put work before love or is he cheating??



It has been my experience that people who "say one thing, but do another"-- regardless of their sign-- probably are not being as honest as they should; we all know this.

My opinion, and a third option-- he isn't too sure about you, yet.


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I prefer civilized debates and meaningful conversation....

It's only been three weeks but I'm already thinking of calling quits (maybe its my Sag venus) and moving on, but I'm trying not to since I have been dating so much I've lost count. I read somewhere Scorpio sun with Libra moons are "serial daters." and I don't want to just continue to date heaps of people anymore. I'm 23 and I'm wanting to settle down with a normal guy, is it too much to ask?
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You prefer "civilized debates and meaningful conversation"-- so you think he is beneath you.

But he'll do in a pinch. Damn. lol

Though I'm sure someone with more knowledge of your sign could offer you a different or better perspective (I'm taking you strictly at face value), this is what I'm getting from you, and it may be that he's picking up on it, too.

And this: I'm wanting to settle down with a normal guy, is it too much to ask?

Anyone with their senses intact knows that "settling down with a normal guy" (finding "the one") is no small endeavor; it's an enterprise unto itself-- books are written, songs are sung, movies are created, companies are built, lives are ended and taken ffs, over or in pursuit of "the one".

So yes-- it is a LOT to ask, and it isn't something to be rationalized, much less trivialized, because one is weary of the dating scene.

It's likely you will have to pay your dues like everyone else.











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scorpioeagle - i think as a scorp especially, you should go with your gut feelings. Not your overanalyzing feelings. The best bet is to talk it over with him especially before you make a decision to end things all together.

i have libra venus and mars so I can understand what you are saying about ignoring. But, you are still annoyed by it or notice it and it bothers you. Therefore it should be addressed sooner rather than later.

I do believe that leo men put work first. Especially if he is still trying to "reach" a career goal. I also know they like attention (women attention is a plus 🙂 )... I don't know if I trust them..or should I say other women around them when I'm not looking.

And on the topic of water moon Leo suns I would agree with what has been said. My brother is a Leo sun with Cancer moon and he seems to suffer alot internally He doesn't let his emotions out ever until one day he bursts. I also remember reading somewhere that Cancer moon Leo men are some of the most "messed up" ones.

Anwho, there seems to be alot of factors playing into your relationship. Oh, and if he is verbally abusing you that is unacceptable from any man and he needs to get the boot! Otherwise the best bet is to talk to him.
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Posted by seraph
Anyway, there's been a little craziness on the boards that had to be dealt with, but I'm glad to be in this thread and just talk (astro) shop.

There's nothing terrible about Leo Sun/Pisces Moon. You're either aware of your chart, you've done the work, and you've mastered it or you're on the road to mastering it through questioning, learning, and high doses of self-inquiry. That goes for anything and at any time, regardless of what's in your chart.

The main problem with the Leo Sun/Pisces Moon pairing is that *on paper*, they aren't aspected harmoniously. They're Inconjunct. That's really all there is to it. When it comes down to basics, it's simply a combination that is more challenging than others. In fact, ALL Water Moons (and Water pairings with Leo) are poorly aspected, without exception.

However, none of this means that you can't make it work. All it means is that it might take *a little bit more* work in order to get to chart-mastery, or to get to a point where you manage it as well as you do the rest of your chart. That's all it is. I'm quite sure a lot of very successful people have this particular combination and do just fine by it. But if we're talking astrology, then let's make sure we understand the basics, as they are on paper *first*, and then go about working with what we've got.



I missed this-- thanks.

I don't have anything intelligent to offer, atm-- but I understand what you're saying. 🙂
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The OP sounds demanding. Usually, three weeks is just time enough for a date or two. The poor Leo is probably overwhelmed.



i dont get it, should she get rid of him bc he's abusive or is it "poor leo" lol. I have a feeling "poor leo" may not be the reality of the situation.
& it seems like they are "together" so it doesn't sound too demanding imo



I don't get it either, is your confused response to *my* thoughts about ScorpioEagle meant to make me look stupid? Or is it just because I said "Poor Leo"?

Don't put words in my mouth.

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I just read two different posts by you that seem contradicting so yes, i was confused about your thoughts. definitely not here to put words in anyone's mouth.
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l for your feedback and suggestions. I really appreciate them.

Right now I'm just moving on with my life and I really can't be bothered fussing over this Leo. Not saying I'm ditching him but just taking a breather and real focusing on other things and see if he'll come around. I'm making holiday plans with my friends and going out doing things I like.

Just to clarify a few things; we went out about two years ago for a few months. I guess I just had high expectations this time round because he swore he has changed and he's gonna try harder and wants something serious. Its bit hard to swallow when someone does 180 on you after telling you these things.

Another thing to clarify; in terms of verbal abuse, it's through text messaging. Usually when I haven't text back because I'm in the shower/driving or have fallen asleep when he calls in the middle of the night. This will be something that I will bring up if I see him again.

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You prefer "civilized debates and meaningful conversation"-- so you think he is beneath you.

But he'll do in a pinch. Damn. lol


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Haha maybe there is a degree of truth here since I am a ~proud~ Scorpio. But seriously, what I meant by "civilized debates and meaningful conversation" is in relation to the mean text messages that I receive. I would prefer someone to communicate rationally when they are pissed off rather than to flip out.
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Posted by seraph
As promised, here's the thread. Some interesting morsels in there about this subject.

http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/leo/Someone-PLEASE-HELP-ME!!!-3419674.asp
I'm not really in the frame of mind right now to discuss it further, so if there are any questions, I'm sure Jynja can answer them, or I can - but at some later point.



Goodness me. I just read the thread. I hope I'm not emasculating anyone....
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*Haha maybe there is a degree of truth here since I am a ~proud~ Scorpio. But seriously, what I meant by "civilized debates and meaningful conversation" is in relation to the mean text messages that I receive. I would prefer someone to communicate rationally when they are pissed off rather than to flip out.*

This part was suppose to be part of my comment sorry.



I got it-- it's okay.

It would be nice if we could all communicate rationally when we are pissed-- but that's rarely the case.

And sounding rational isn't the same as being rational-- I'm just going to take a stab here and guess that you're sabotaging.

Some ~people~ have that down to an art.

Just saying. 🙂

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*Haha maybe there is a degree of truth here since I am a ~proud~ Scorpio. But seriously, what I meant by "civilized debates and meaningful conversation" is in relation to the mean text messages that I receive. I would prefer someone to communicate rationally when they are pissed off rather than to flip out.*

This part was suppose to be part of my comment sorry.



I got it-- it's okay.

It would be nice if we could all communicate rationally when we are pissed-- but that's rarely the case.

And sounding rational isn't the same as being rational-- I'm just going to take a stab here and guess that you're sabotaging.

Some ~people~ have that down to an art.

Just saying. 🙂

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"Sabotaging" How so?
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*Haha maybe there is a degree of truth here since I am a ~proud~ Scorpio. But seriously, what I meant by "civilized debates and meaningful conversation" is in relation to the mean text messages that I receive. I would prefer someone to communicate rationally when they are pissed off rather than to flip out.*

This part was suppose to be part of my comment sorry.



I got it-- it's okay.

It would be nice if we could all communicate rationally when we are pissed-- but that's rarely the case.

And sounding rational isn't the same as being rational-- I'm just going to take a stab here and guess that you're sabotaging.

Some ~people~ have that down to an art.

Just saying. 🙂



"Sabotaging" How so?
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lol

I hate the "how so?" game.

Maybe another Leo would like play-- I'm out.