My tiny Leo

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As a Virgo moon myself, I can understand his being distant. Although he might be a tad too young for that. My distance towards my parents didn't begin until I was around 13.
The distance has always been there, even when he was a baby. It might sound silly, but that is how he is.

On the other hand he is the most loving person the world has ever seen. He observes everything, he notices when I have clear nail polish on and then kisses my hand because he feels I'm so pretty haha He cleans up plastic bottles that litter on the streets, to save the planet he says.

But still he is in his own bubble.
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It could be. I had that issue around that age, but it was mostly after we moved across country that I remember it the most. If it was prior to that, I don't remember. But I'd feel myself overwhelmed/panicked when I'd see my mom driving away.

Have you asked him why he gets so upset?
His dad and me separated around 2 years ago. And he has been going back and forth between the two of us.

We try to make it as comfortable for him as possible. We live in the same street, we eat together a lot. It's no trouble because we are still best friends.

But ever since he has been in these kinds of phases. It just seems the constant going back and forth is hard on him.
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I hope it's the latter, a phase, like he has had before and every kid in the world has had before.

It's just hard, you want the best for them and for them to be happy always 🙂

Is this the first time he is getting to be away from you?

Don't laugh, sounds silly but it worked. My cousin played hide and seek just to teach her son that she is around. She got him used to the idea that even if she disappears for few mins, she will be back. Very basic but the kid doesn't struggle with separation anxiety... And she would let her trusted circle to baby sit her kid, she started small and increased the timings as he grew comfortable.



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He has been going to school for 2 years, daycare for 4 years, so this is nothing new to him.

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My heart is breaking for my 5 year old atm

In daily life he is so distant sometimes, but when it's time to say goodbye when I take him to school or daycare he breaks down.

Crying, begging, not being able to let go.

I feel shocked sometimes because of his neutral demeanor most of the time.

Sigh..my fragile heart haha

He is Leo sun, virgo moon


This touched me. Your son sounds like me when I was a kid. I reacted like this even when I got dropped out at my grandparents house. Leo Sun/Virgo Moon kids are pretty independent and can be oddly self sufficient, but we imprint on our parents like any other kid. We can also be uncharacteristically shy, which later evolves into a more calm/reserved demeanor when we age. The Leo tendencies are still there, but they are tempered by a neutrality.

Inspire him to make friends. Once he does this his fear will go away. Right now YOU'RE his friend. He just needs to become more comfortable with other kids. He needs to socialize because as a kid, he'll only like familiar environments. By sleeping over his friends' houses he'll learn how to handle himself in foreign situations. This will make him very versatile, bolder, and will help him climb out of his shell.
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My heart is breaking for my 5 year old atm

In daily life he is so distant sometimes, but when it's time to say goodbye when I take him to school or daycare he breaks down.

Crying, begging, not being able to let go.

I feel shocked sometimes because of his neutral demeanor most of the time.

Sigh..my fragile heart haha

He is Leo sun, virgo moon


This touched me. Your son sounds like me when I was a kid. I reacted like this even when I got dropped out at my grandparents house. Leo Sun/Virgo Moon kids are pretty independent and can be oddly self sufficient, but we imprint on our parents like any other kid. We can also be uncharacteristically shy, which later evolves into a more calm/reserved demeanor when we age. The Leo tendencies are still there, but they are tempered by a neutrality.

Inspire him to make friends. Once he does this his fear will go away. Right now YOU'RE his friend. He just needs to become more comfortable with other kids. He needs to socialize because as a kid, he'll only like familiar environments. By sleeping over his friends' houses he'll learn how to handle himself in foreign situations. This will make him very versatile, bolder, and will help him climb out of his shell.
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Thank you so much for this.

It is like how you described it yes, even with people he is familiar with he reacts like that.

He is really attached to us and I think he does consider us as his circle, his friends. The shyness is real, even in front of us he feels shy to sing or dance.

He goes to judo and swimming and actually has a lot of human interaction to say it that way. But I think you're talking about the actual bonding with friends. I will try out your advice, to have him sleepover sometime.

Thanks again

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It could be. I had that issue around that age, but it was mostly after we moved across country that I remember it the most. If it was prior to that, I don't remember. But I'd feel myself overwhelmed/panicked when I'd see my mom driving away.

Have you asked him why he gets so upset?
His dad and me separated around 2 years ago. And he has been going back and forth between the two of us.

We try to make it as comfortable for him as possible. We live in the same street, we eat together a lot. It's no trouble because we are still best friends.

But ever since he has been in these kinds of phases. It just seems the constant going back and forth is hard on him.

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That could be it. I was uprooted from friends and family to move across country to what was like a whole other world. From Cali to the South? lol. I was confused by how my teacher spoke, it was so different.

You might want to look up how to deal with separation anxiety brought on by "traumatic" life changes and see if you can get any ideas in how to help him cope/reassure him. I know with me, it took some time to just adjust and settle where I lived. I don't remember having any problems with it after I'd settled. Not sure how that'd translate in a divorce situation, but yeah.
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It could be. I had that issue around that age, but it was mostly after we moved across country that I remember it the most. If it was prior to that, I don't remember. But I'd feel myself overwhelmed/panicked when I'd see my mom driving away.

Have you asked him why he gets so upset?
His dad and me separated around 2 years ago. And he has been going back and forth between the two of us.

We try to make it as comfortable for him as possible. We live in the same street, we eat together a lot. It's no trouble because we are still best friends.

But ever since he has been in these kinds of phases. It just seems the constant going back and forth is hard on him.


That could be it. I was uprooted from friends and family to move across country to what was like a whole other world. From Cali to the South? lol. I was confused by how my teacher spoke, it was so different.

You might want to look up how to deal with separation anxiety brought on by "traumatic" life changes and see if you can get any ideas in how to help him cope/reassure him. I know with me, it took some time to just adjust and settle where I lived. I don't remember having any problems with it after I'd settled. Not sure how that'd translate in a divorce situation, but yeah.
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thanks so much for your advice^^ I can imagine it must have been hard. my parents moved around a lot so it was hard to settle anywhere.

I will look into it

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My heart is breaking for my 5 year old atm

In daily life he is so distant sometimes, but when it's time to say goodbye when I take him to school or daycare he breaks down.

Crying, begging, not being able to let go.

I feel shocked sometimes because of his neutral demeanor most of the time.

Sigh..my fragile heart haha

He is Leo sun, virgo moon


This touched me. Your son sounds like me when I was a kid. I reacted like this even when I got dropped out at my grandparents house. Leo Sun/Virgo Moon kids are pretty independent and can be oddly self sufficient, but we imprint on our parents like any other kid. We can also be uncharacteristically shy, which later evolves into a more calm/reserved demeanor when we age. The Leo tendencies are still there, but they are tempered by a neutrality.

Inspire him to make friends. Once he does this his fear will go away. Right now YOU'RE his friend. He just needs to become more comfortable with other kids. He needs to socialize because as a kid, he'll only like familiar environments. By sleeping over his friends' houses he'll learn how to handle himself in foreign situations. This will make him very versatile, bolder, and will help him climb out of his shell.
Thank you so much for this.

It is like how you described it yes, even with people he is familiar with he reacts like that.

He is really attached to us and I think he does consider us as his circle, his friends. The shyness is real, even in front of us he feels shy to sing or dance.

He goes to judo and swimming and actually has a lot of human interaction to say it that way. But I think you're talking about the actual bonding with friends. I will try out your advice, to have him sleepover sometime.

Thanks again

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Yes that shyness sounds familiar. Start putting him in random activities that put in front of people. I myself did a lot of theater as a kid. Clubs and camps (daytime or overnight) are also helpful.

The bonding process with other people is very important. Start slow, have other kids over to your house for a slumber party. Then when he finds a best friend, have him sleep over at that kid's house too.

I remember crying and going home during my first slumber party (which was literally at a friend's house who lived one house away). My parents picked me, took me home, talked to me, and sent me back over. They told me that I'd miss all of the fun with my friends and that there was nothing to fear. They asked me if I wanted to miss the fun, and of course I didn't. So I went back. Fortunately kids have short memories and no shame, so I forgot all about it.
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My heart is breaking for my 5 year old atm

In daily life he is so distant sometimes, but when it's time to say goodbye when I take him to school or daycare he breaks down.

Crying, begging, not being able to let go.

I feel shocked sometimes because of his neutral demeanor most of the time.

Sigh..my fragile heart haha

He is Leo sun, virgo moon


This touched me. Your son sounds like me when I was a kid. I reacted like this even when I got dropped out at my grandparents house. Leo Sun/Virgo Moon kids are pretty independent and can be oddly self sufficient, but we imprint on our parents like any other kid. We can also be uncharacteristically shy, which later evolves into a more calm/reserved demeanor when we age. The Leo tendencies are still there, but they are tempered by a neutrality.

Inspire him to make friends. Once he does this his fear will go away. Right now YOU'RE his friend. He just needs to become more comfortable with other kids. He needs to socialize because as a kid, he'll only like familiar environments. By sleeping over his friends' houses he'll learn how to handle himself in foreign situations. This will make him very versatile, bolder, and will help him climb out of his shell.
Thank you so much for this.

It is like how you described it yes, even with people he is familiar with he reacts like that.

He is really attached to us and I think he does consider us as his circle, his friends. The shyness is real, even in front of us he feels shy to sing or dance.

He goes to judo and swimming and actually has a lot of human interaction to say it that way. But I think you're talking about the actual bonding with friends. I will try out your advice, to have him sleepover sometime.

Thanks again


Yes that shyness sounds familiar. Start putting him in random activities that put in front of people. I myself did a lot of theater as a kid. Clubs and camps (daytime or overnight) are also helpful.

The bonding process with other people is very important. Start slow, have other kids over to your house for a slumber party. Then when he finds a best friend, have him sleep over at that kid's house too.

I remember crying and going home during my first slumber party (which was literally at a friend's house who lived one house away). My parents picked me, took me home, talked to me, and sent me back over. They told me that I'd miss all of the fun with my friends and that there was nothing to fear. They asked me if I wanted to miss the fun, and of course I didn't. So I went back. Fortunately kids have short memories and no shame, so I forgot all about it.
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He is not fooled easily into activities he doesnt want to do. Even when they have a schoolplay..if he doesn't want to, he will not participate.

It all depends on the moment, but most of the time he is very stubborn in his ways.

Also I myself am not a very social person, talking to the other moms or having people over creeps me the hell out.

I couldn't do it to save my life 😢

But I will think of a way to incorporate your advice and thank you for sharing your childhood stories 🙂

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As a Virgo moon myself, I can understand his being distant. Although he might be a tad too young for that. My distance towards my parents didn't begin until I was around 13.
The distance has always been there, even when he was a baby. It might sound silly, but that is how he is.

On the other hand he is the most loving person the world has ever seen. He observes everything, he notices when I have clear nail polish on and then kisses my hand because he feels I'm so pretty haha He cleans up plastic bottles that litter on the streets, to save the planet he says.

But still he is in his own bubble.

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So precious oh my
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My heart is breaking for my 5 year old atm

In daily life he is so distant sometimes, but when it's time to say goodbye when I take him to school or daycare he breaks down.

Crying, begging, not being able to let go.

I feel shocked sometimes because of his neutral demeanor most of the time.

Sigh..my fragile heart haha

He is Leo sun, virgo moon


This touched me. Your son sounds like me when I was a kid. I reacted like this even when I got dropped out at my grandparents house. Leo Sun/Virgo Moon kids are pretty independent and can be oddly self sufficient, but we imprint on our parents like any other kid. We can also be uncharacteristically shy, which later evolves into a more calm/reserved demeanor when we age. The Leo tendencies are still there, but they are tempered by a neutrality.

Inspire him to make friends. Once he does this his fear will go away. Right now YOU'RE his friend. He just needs to become more comfortable with other kids. He needs to socialize because as a kid, he'll only like familiar environments. By sleeping over his friends' houses he'll learn how to handle himself in foreign situations. This will make him very versatile, bolder, and will help him climb out of his shell.
Thank you so much for this.

It is like how you described it yes, even with people he is familiar with he reacts like that.

He is really attached to us and I think he does consider us as his circle, his friends. The shyness is real, even in front of us he feels shy to sing or dance.

He goes to judo and swimming and actually has a lot of human interaction to say it that way. But I think you're talking about the actual bonding with friends. I will try out your advice, to have him sleepover sometime.

Thanks again


Yes that shyness sounds familiar. Start putting him in random activities that put in front of people. I myself did a lot of theater as a kid. Clubs and camps (daytime or overnight) are also helpful.

The bonding process with other people is very important. Start slow, have other kids over to your house for a slumber party. Then when he finds a best friend, have him sleep over at that kid's house too.

I remember crying and going home during my first slumber party (which was literally at a friend's house who lived one house away). My parents picked me, took me home, talked to me, and sent me back over. They told me that I'd miss all of the fun with my friends and that there was nothing to fear. They asked me if I wanted to miss the fun, and of course I didn't. So I went back. Fortunately kids have short memories and no shame, so I forgot all about it.
He is not fooled easily into activities he doesnt want to do. Even when they have a schoolplay..if he doesn't want to, he will not participate.

It all depends on the moment, but most of the time he is very stubborn in his ways.

Also I myself am not a very social person, talking to the other moms or having people over creeps me the hell out.

I couldn't do it to save my life 😢

But I will think of a way to incorporate your advice and thank you for sharing your childhood stories 🙂

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For sure, I was the same way and was extremely stubborn about things I didn't want to do. You may also want to consider either having his father handle the sleepovers or biting the bullet and having kids over so your son can socialize. I say this simply from experience and having very social parents (both Aries Moon people). They basically forced me to get out of my shell.
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"He is not fooled easily into activities he doesnt want to do. Even when they have a schoolplay..if he doesn't want to, he will not participate."

I can identify... was the same way, when I didn't

know what to expect.

Though I did participate in the pre-kindergarten

production, I corrected my teacher in front of

God and everybody when she mispronounced

my last name... I was 3.

😄
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"He is not fooled easily into activities he doesnt want to do. Even when they have a schoolplay..if he doesn't want to, he will not participate."

I can identify... was the same way, when I didn't

know what to expect.

Though I did participate in the pre-kindergarten

production, I corrected my teacher in front of

God and everybody when she mispronounced

my last name... I was 3.

😄
hahahaha omg I see him doing that on the daily...somehow it fills me with pure joy and a weird sense of pride 😄
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He sounds like such a sweet little boy 🙂 Do you think there is anything that's triggering his behavior?

When I was his age, I had boughts of anxiety, even with things that were rather routine. It doesn't hurt to give a little extra love, a gentle nudge in the right direction and let him know that you are confident in his abilities. He may just need a little extra love and reassure from you.

I have Leo Sun and Virgo Moon myself. I was always rather detached with bought of needing/demanding a little extra attention and affection.
We're guessing its another phase, like they have sometimes. I noticed now some kids in his class do the same thing.

He gets all the loving he needs and then some, couldnt be any other way with leo sun libra moon mom haha

We tell him all the time how wonderful he is and how good he is doing in school, sports, arts, but also in how he is as a human and we talk about that a lot.



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My heart is breaking for my 5 year old atm

In daily life he is so distant sometimes, but when it's time to say goodbye when I take him to school or daycare he breaks down.

Crying, begging, not being able to let go.

I feel shocked sometimes because of his neutral demeanor most of the time.

Sigh..my fragile heart haha

He is Leo sun, virgo moon


This touched me. Your son sounds like me when I was a kid. I reacted like this even when I got dropped out at my grandparents house. Leo Sun/Virgo Moon kids are pretty independent and can be oddly self sufficient, but we imprint on our parents like any other kid. We can also be uncharacteristically shy, which later evolves into a more calm/reserved demeanor when we age. The Leo tendencies are still there, but they are tempered by a neutrality.

Inspire him to make friends. Once he does this his fear will go away. Right now YOU'RE his friend. He just needs to become more comfortable with other kids. He needs to socialize because as a kid, he'll only like familiar environments. By sleeping over his friends' houses he'll learn how to handle himself in foreign situations. This will make him very versatile, bolder, and will help him climb out of his shell.
Thank you so much for this.

It is like how you described it yes, even with people he is familiar with he reacts like that.

He is really attached to us and I think he does consider us as his circle, his friends. The shyness is real, even in front of us he feels shy to sing or dance.

He goes to judo and swimming and actually has a lot of human interaction to say it that way. But I think you're talking about the actual bonding with friends. I will try out your advice, to have him sleepover sometime.

Thanks again


Yes that shyness sounds familiar. Start putting him in random activities that put in front of people. I myself did a lot of theater as a kid. Clubs and camps (daytime or overnight) are also helpful.

The bonding process with other people is very important. Start slow, have other kids over to your house for a slumber party. Then when he finds a best friend, have him sleep over at that kid's house too.

I remember crying and going home during my first slumber party (which was literally at a friend's house who lived one house away). My parents picked me, took me home, talked to me, and sent me back over. They told me that I'd miss all of the fun with my friends and that there was nothing to fear. They asked me if I wanted to miss the fun, and of course I didn't. So I went back. Fortunately kids have short memories and no shame, so I forgot all about it.
He is not fooled easily into activities he doesnt want to do. Even when they have a schoolplay..if he doesn't want to, he will not participate.

It all depends on the moment, but most of the time he is very stubborn in his ways.

Also I myself am not a very social person, talking to the other moms or having people over creeps me the hell out.

I couldn't do it to save my life 😢

But I will think of a way to incorporate your advice and thank you for sharing your childhood stories 🙂


For sure, I was the same way and was extremely stubborn about things I didn't want to do. You may also want to consider either having his father handle the sleepovers or biting the bullet and having kids over so your son can socialize. I say this simply from experience and having very social parents (both Aries Moon people). They basically forced me to get out of my shell.
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I think I'm not forcing him because if someone did that to me at that age I always felt so out of it, angry, upset, not understood by my dearest. So I think thats why I personally have refrained from that method.

I will try to see it in a different light and discuss this with him 🙂

Thanks again