libra sagitarius—

Im a sagitarius female and I met a libra man a few weeks ago. We hung out the first night and were casually flirting. He was such a sweetheart and had the cutest smile. I had just gotten out of a serious relationship and was just looking for fun but I ended up really liking him.So he invited me to hang out the next night and we had a few drinks and well I ended up fooling around with him. He wanted me to stay and I did for awhile but I ended up having to leave before he awoke.I didnt get a chance to say goodbye.So I tried calling him 2 days later to make sure he made it home ok but he didnt answer.and he hasnt called me back. Hes from a different state than me and travels alot. We hang out with a similar crowd so its possible that we will run into eachother again. Im just not sure how to proceed. I get the feeling hes into playing games, so Im willing to play along. what should I do if I see him again— or is this a lost cause??

He's probably contemplating and weighing what took place between the two of you. He might not know how to take that you left in the middle of the night when he was asleep. We tend to overanalyze everything, he's running through the events of the night looking for a sign in the words, body language and general atmosphere between the two of you in an attempt to disect out anything that would suggest you had general feelings for him.

What is his relationship history like? What mind frame is he in when it comes to dating at the present?

Libra guys and Sag girls tend to hit it off pretty well, and we like when you chase us, which a sag girl usually does without avail. I have had a few sag girlfriends and have a really good sag female friend who has been with an employee of mine (Libra male) for a really long time and the chemistry is always pretty magical between the two. Sag girls just get us Libra guys and we like it. So...unless he has some really recent emotional baggage or a chip on his shoulder involving relationships you have a really good chance at a rewarding relationship.

Keep it casual, both signs tend to get a little jittery in formal date type of settings. If you see him again, do something like drinks or cofee just between the two of you and let the conversation flow, Libra and Sag can talk all night and in such a way that usually turns both of them on so you really can't go wrong. Just keep it laid back and the sparks will come out on their own.

Thank you so much for the help that really clarifies alot of things for me.

No prob.

Just be prepared for the fact that it will only take one or two times for things to get "heavy" between the two signs. They tend to put each other on a pedestal.

Now I wish I was a Sag LOL

"Now I wish I was a Sag LOL"

Just lie to me and tell me you are and I'll make your night 😉

It is a realy wierd but comfortable combo for both signs. A lot of other signs see Libra guys as un-manly but for some reason we come across as invincible and all capable to Sag girls. It is kinda fun to experience.

Not to mention it usually gets heavy quickly because sag girls will shamelessly give chase instead of making us pull back like other signs they do it with an air of giving us whatever we want so.....you know us Libra guys. Then we find out that they are actually really compatible with us.

Ok Miss Sag - give me the secret ingredient please LOL....hmmm nic...I can lie pretty well if you like??

Ya see Nic THAT is why you guys are so difficult to understand....now if I were to shamelessly chase it would scare a Libran off (being a Leo), however, its ok for a Sag— sheesh!!!! rules, rules, and more rules!!!

At present its been 4 days since no communication (the naughty texts) we exchanged on Friday......I know we're hooking up on Thursday (2 more long days LOL) but I have to admit I started feeling like Im losing interest in this one....its just too hard to read it....it shouldn't be this hard *sigh*. Yeah yeah I know, I'll be on cloud 9 on Friday...but still Miss Sag...if you have any secrets, throw them my way 😛

Well Libra is Cardinal and Sag is mutable so the interaction flows really well. They are persistant but let us take the lead, where as Libra/Leo are two cardinal signs so there is a lot of feeling out to do as both are pretty strong personalities.

I think he is still feeling you out, wants to see when you are driven and when you pull away. Girls who know what they want, like you in your case are comforting in one way because we don't have to be in the lead all the time, but also a little unnerving in another because we are a little afraid you'll just as easily be motivated by someone else as easily as you were by us.

feeling me out by not communicating?? yup makes sense NOT lol. I've decided Nic that although it bothers me (not as much as it used to mind you), that Im not chasing, continue to give him that space (dunno why he wants it - he sits at home every night on his own thinking and chatting online), and I will continue to see him on his terms but if something else comes up (like in the case of last Friday where I couldn't see him due to other plans), I just say no and not change my plans and enjoy his company for what it is on a once a week/fortnight basis for now anyway.....it is disappointing that we haven't evolved in 4 months but I kinda have my answer as to what he wants with us....Im going to ride it out but ultimately I think I have to move on as he's not giving any more than the casual attitude. I'd have hoped for more by now - I know, I know, he's not in the right place and all and I can accept that and its not that he doesn't "want" a r/ship...its that he's apparently not "ready".....but reading in between the lines (and yes I've done my own analyzing, etc), he's just not into me enough to be in a r/ship with ME but happy to do other stuff with me.

Pity though, coz I loved the naughty texts and me putting ideas in his head then watching him turn himself inside out trying to hook up, etc....its been nothing but fun with him every single interaction but I've given, I've done all the work yet there doesn't appear to be a sign. Don't get me wrong...I absolutely LOVE being around him but that's just the thing...I have fallen for him and really enjoy our talks coz they are deep, yet he is so aloof once we part ways again, it spells out how he really feels...he knows how I feel yet he has chosen to continue to see me but given me the "im not ready and don't know when I will be" so yada yada yada.

Im ok with it (I think!!!) lol

So there ya have it - more confusion but Im kinda at peace with it....gotta get me some Sag rising or something *laffs*

I keep forgetting that you guys have been going back and forth like this for four months. That part is a little out of character for a Libra and your right, he is making you do all of the work which isn't fair. I can act the same way he does but usually only for a couple of weeks before I get hooked on a girl, so, he is dealing with something for sure. In four months I would be head over heals and burning with desire. Or already on my way out 😉

I just realized four months is the longest relationship I have had in two years.

yup well I don't think he was ever "in" and yes I think he's dealing with his past r/ship for way too long - its time to move on I say but nobody can get into anothers head nor do I wish to try. Apparently when girls online try to chat him up and ask him if he's seeing somebody he comes back and says "I've just gotten out of a long term r/ship and am single by choice".....so there ya have it!!! He can't or won't move on and he sees her every week due to seeing his daughter twice during the week and once on the weekend so I guess they talk a fair bit.....probably a difficult situation as he hangs out at the ex home to spend time with his daughter and he still calls her other children his step children....

He's very loving, etc but I think I have my answer - just up to me now to either walk away/end it or continue living a fantasy 😢 I think I've done my time in being patient, hoping, etc....gotta move forward and enjoy things while it suits me too. sad, sad, sad.

You're like him Nic...longest r/ship he's had in the past 2 years is 3 months....I've gone past that - wooohooo LOL

Its not like I do ALL the work per se...its that I keep the lines of communication open and send him a kinky text out of the blue, whereas he waits until HE is good and ready to chat/talk/sms to get together again....I am getting tired of waiting around for him not that he expects me to...I just have been *smacks forehead*

I know that if I were to stop seeing him, texting, talking, etc that he would miss me and start working a little harder but realistically, he is just toying with me and that is cruel.

Thanks for clearing that up....time to think yet again *sigh*

Give yourself a while to think about it before you make any decisions, I can tell you have struggled with it a lot and going back and forth a bit just confuses you more. The romantic side of me sees the potential beauty in something so hard in the end. Struggle is beautiful sometimes.

"You're like him Nic...longest r/ship he's had in the past 2 years is 3 months....I've gone past that - wooohooo LOL"

Yeah, the 4 month relationship was never even clearly defined by either of us. She was the Sag girl. Honestly, she would just call me every day or I her some of the time and she would ask me to come over after work. For pretty much four months strait we were just two people that wanted to be around each other and didn't really look beyond that. deep conversation, lots of late nights at 24hour cofee shops and the tightest cuddler I have ever experienced. I would just randomly show up after getting done with work at like 2am, take my clothes off and crawl in to bed with her. wake up in the morning, take a shower with her, smoke cigarette, eat breakfast and we would go about our respective days. Sometimes without even arranging anything, same with her, she would just show up and we would "be". it is pretty surreal when I think about it now, we were just on the same wavelength. No expectations of each other but neither of us really wanted to go anywhere else.

Hmmm nic....yes his words too:...."good things come to those who wait"....he says that a lot and Im not making any decisions as such, just protecting my heart - I am too loyal for my own good!! 😛 He's really, from what I can tell, in a bad place and he's scared of getting involved with anybody and says stuff like "what's the point? relationships always end anyway"...see? he's got a pretty negative mindset.

Your situation re: the Sag and you— sounds like heaven really....why on earth would you let that one go?? Cuddling?? I love to cuddle - its the BEST part of being with somebody!!! oh and the kissing....my 2 favourite things 🙂

Hmmmm anyway, up and on.

She had to move out of the area to take advantage of a career oportunity and I owned a business, two actually, here at the time so I couldn't go with her or else I would have. We never really explored the mirky depths of a serious relationship with each other so I honestly don't know how that would have worked out, but yeah, it was a pretty amazing time.

There was a lot of just being on the same page with us. We would just be sitting on the couch cuddling, talking, playin chess or something (we liked just kicking back like that) and I would get up and grab my keys and wallet and she would ask all laid back-like "where are we going" and I would respond with the name of a cofee shop or hang out-stree like Mill Ave. or the name of a resteraunt or store and she would just respond with hopping up off of the couch putting her shoes on, grabing her purse and we would walk out the door hand in hand. Really naturaly flowing relationship. No arguing or anything, we just did what we did when we wanted to.

I could have just as easily responded to the question of where were about to head off to with Paris, or London or the moon and she would have just as casually jumped up with her little smile and grabbed my hand. It was like I gave her complete comfort, she knew I would take care of her, there was nothing to worry abou as long as I was close by and she just went with the flow.

I think your Libra guy is looking for you to "prove him wrong" about girls, and frankly, that isn't your responsibility. Like with the Libra girl I recently visited, that is what she wanted from me, and no matter how much I wanted to just make everything ok for her, it is up to her to do that. I can only offer help, can't do anything about it. He is just sulking, it is easier for him right now to believe that the world is cynical and that nothing that is good is genuine. Cheers to you for your attitude towards the whole thing, at this point I think it is safe to put it simply that he is missing out on a great thing.

Awwww that's a cute story!!! Maybe one day you'll hook up again 🙂 I have faith in these things!! and you're still young so its a possibility 🙂

Nah, Im not here to prove him wrong...you could be right, you could be wrong but Im not here to do that for him...we've all got past pain, we all have to go through life with regrets and hard luck stories but 2 years on and he's still saying "I've only just come out of a long term r/ship"— pfffftttt!! He's obviously still in love with his ex and although he can be intimate and affectionate with others, there's something there that he can't/won't let go even though he knows its over!!!

I will enjoy his company on Thursday night but like I said, I will now (as you have all been recommending I do for the past few months), start keeping my options open again....life goes on so they say 😛

Thanks Nic - you're always good to me with the advice.

Your welcome. I can't get enough of your enless positiveness about the whole thing. I admire your ability to just take things as they are, being analytical and emotional without getting distracted enough to forget what you feel is right and wrong.

Maybe we'll meet again. If it happens it happens. I am actually thinking about starting up a new project of the business variety that she would probably be really interrested in. We almost started a screen printing business together but I think ther was out of a sub-concious attempt to validate our desire to not let things go and move on. We were going to buy a screen-printing press and start making our own shirts out of her apartment and sell them online and through local businesses but in the brainstorming/planning process I realized that she was looking for a reason to stay and put off her dream for me. I told her to chase her dream, I wasn't going to be the reason she missed out on that.

OK Nic...I'll tell you what!!!....come to the land down under and we can hook up 😛

Perfect eh?? LOL

you can start up a business here!!!

See? easy fix

Well when you put it like that how could I not?

Pick me up at the Sidney airport in two days 😉

Actually what I am considering is kind of a niche thing that is dependant of the Phoenix community. But every few months I do get this unexplainable urge to just pick up and move somewhere completely random....so you might be seeing me eventually 😛

oooooerz!!! I can make Sydney in 3 days by car!!! LOL

and that's right, putting it like that how could you—

a niche— sounds like a plan - good for you Nico!!! I look forward to meeting you 😉

"oooooerz!!! I can make Sydney in 3 days by car!!! LOL"

For some reason I thought you weren't that far from Sydney. It's allright, I'll just flirt with the ladies with the cute Australian accent at the airport for an extra day 🙂

"a niche— sounds like a plan - good for you Nico!!! I look forward to meeting you"

I never really have a "plan" perse, just kinda do or don't ya know?

just as long as you only flirt and don't take off with any of them!!! LOL...Im not driving 3 days for nothing but then again its probably easier to take a flight to Sydney......everybody overseas seems to think that Sydney is THE place to be for some reason...has it got anything to do with the 2000 Olympics perhaps?? We do have other major cities just so you know 🙂...hehehhe

Hmmmm ok I like the idea of not having a "plan"....ok see ya soon!!

Ya big flirt LOL 😛

OMG do we have an accent?? no way!!! Only Americans and other foreigners do surely!!! LMAO

The Libra guy and Sag girl I know are very similar to your description Archer. She is extremely confident that he is her man and he adores her. They are completely natural around each other and there never seems to be any mixed words or communication tension.

My rising is Sagitarrius. Do I have a shot?

Or am I so screwed beyond repair because my sun is Taurus? 😛

****Im going to ride it out but ultimately I think I have to move on as he's not giving any more than the casual attitude. I'd have hoped for more by now - I know, I know, he's not in the right place and all and I can accept that and its not that he doesn't "want" a r/ship...its that he's apparently not "ready".....but reading in between the lines (and yes I've done my own analyzing, etc), he's just not into me enough to be in a r/ship with ME but happy to do other stuff with me.****


Chatz, we are alike in alot of ways, strong and aggressive. With Libras, you have to take a laid back approach, which seems to come more naturally for sag girls...

OK, he isn't ready so, and probably has some past relationship issues, especially because he has a child with someone. When Libra's have a child with someone, they try to keep a rappur if only for the child's sake (My ex and his baby mama.. Hee hee ) I never had a problem with that. They don't get along well, like he and I. However, he tries to keep the peace.

Just hang in there if you want him. It will be worth it once you have them. Although my marriage didn't work out. My most happy and romantic memories of my relationships is with my ex husband and God knows in times like these. I wish I could have those days back, but I know in my heart, it will never be the same...



BTW, My moon and my rising is Sag... Hmmm, and I wonder why I am so comfortable with Libras, however, I am sooo Scorp, so that is the odd part in some ways 🙂

* I just realized four months is the longest relationship I have had in two years.

You are doing better than me. The best I have done is two months in almost two years. Suxs.

* just up to me now to either walk away/end it or continue living a fantasy I think I've done my time in being patient, hoping, etc....gotta move forward and enjoy things while it suits me too. sad, sad, sad.

(((Chaz)))

I know how you are feeling. I gave up my leo last week.

Thank you QS - that's comforting and I understand the ex situation more than he'd probably know...I don't mind the fact he sees her/them every week - that's not a problem to me and Im glad he makes the time to see his daughter as there are so many jerks who don't bother 😛 and LS? I haven't quite given up yet but I am now not making any first steps and just waiting for that text to let me know what time tomorrow night (as we have a date and I will certainly enjoy that) LOL, but after that? the ball is in his court. I've done more than my share and if he misses me, he'll come back, if not? well I have a date in 2 days with Nic LOL. OMG I better start driving!!!!

LS, Im sorry things didn't work out with your Leo.....perhaps at a later stage? Doesnt sound like a Leo how he reacted.

Well as far as the libra thing for me I dont think I have a secret yet..... This would be my first official interest in a libra. It was definitely as archer said when we were in a group situation he would talk to others while keeping his hand on my thigh. It was just really comfortable and like we had known eachother for years.......My bestfriend is a male libra though and I can tell you we dont see eachother often but we consider eachother family. The thing that always kept us as friends is that we never judged eachother. We knew every little horrible thing about eachother and it didnt matter to us. we still loved eachother for what we were. He was definitely a ladies man but I guess I was the girl who saw past all his fake B.S. and still thought he was great. I guess sag and libra just understand and except eachother despite their flaws.So thats my secret for how you keep a friendship with a libra. Im not sure yet about the relationship part yet. Well see

gheniegirl....if nothing else, you have a great attitude and Im sure that's certain to win you a few gold stars with him 🙂

aww thanks chatz, I sure hope so. I really like this guy and well he definitely has peaked my curiosity. I dont know if its the whole play hard to get thing or not but I definitely want to find out where this thing goes.I have a feeling its going to be a long and slow ordeal though. That is so hard to deal with as a flighty sagittarius. and now my ex is calling me again (virgo).........ahhh I dont understand guys. The one I want to call hasnt and the one I dont does ugh;( lol

gheniegirl...as I've said before to others....fasten your seatbelt and get ready for the rollercoaster ride....Im still in the same place you are after 4 months!!

Im losing hope though slowly LOL.

Virgo?? hmmm I don't know which one is worse...the picky Virgo or the aloof Libran....and yessssssss its always the way re: the one you want to call doesnt and the one you don't does.....grrrrrrrrrrrr.

Again, enjoy the ride - you're in for some fun but it may all be good and rewarding 🙂

ghenie girl,

My Libra friend, who I am now having interest in more than a friend. Has been back and forth with his Sag ex about 5 times in the 7 months I have known him. My ex's last serious girlfriend before me was Sag and one of my Libra guy friend's has dated two sag's back to back. The compatability is definitely there. It is just the waiting game that sucks.

Good luck...

ghenie girl,

My Libra friend, who I am now having interest in more than a friend. Has been back and forth with his Sag ex about 5 times in the 7 months I have known him. My ex's last serious girlfriend before me was Sag and one of my Libra guy friend's has dated two sag's back to back. The compatability is definitely there. It is just the waiting game that sucks.

Good luck...

Yeah, It's true. It's a attraction that just doesn't die. Me and libra talked today. 1 month of silence. But it's weird cause it didn't really seem to bother either of us. We just picked up where we left off. Asked me to hang out sometime and said he'd talk to me tomorrow. I thought it was gonna be really bad but it wasn't. He didn't bring anything up and either did I. Just so laid back. I don't want to start all that shit over again but I guess he doesn't think I'm a psyco for saying I love him, which I realized I don't. Maybe he did too. And I wanted to test the waters again to see. Weird.

Ash! I love when we talk about this cause we both sags and the way you act to things is how I do too. "Usually us sagis overlook that it was all part of their plan, or we just don't care LOL " Right? They love that about us I believe. This way they can take the lead( which they like to do) and we follow very calm and mellowed out like. (Probably to mellow sometimes!) But none the less we do.


"So him contacting you could be part of his big plan, and slowly but surely it will eventually play out to his liking. " It's funny cause I contacted him first and I was just like hey man, whats up? And he responded (which I didn't think) and we just got a talkin. He said he talk to me tomorrow and now we are talking right now. It's werid. Cause I had no intention of following up. I was just sayin hi and (making sure he didn't think I was physco) Which he doesn't so cool. That was all I needed. But now he's asking me to hang out. It reminds me of way back when...uhhhh.

Yes, I found this post and I liked what it said haha.

That's so cute of your libra🙂 They can't leave us saggies can they? Who else gets them like we get them? Yet, I think we could leave them.

Whats your venus in ash🙂??