Lock the Bedroom Door? (Page 3)

Chatz.. Nic..

No sex.. (well it wouldn't be just sex, bc there is too much love and energy between us) so no love makin', no kisses either.. I spent the night with him once.. slept with clothes on... he said I was too drunk for him to touch me.. and I was bc I do not remember that night at all, except for him leaving at 4am. He had a girl back then.. being gentlemen like..

I dunno. He is never like this when I am in his face.. He never flirts with me overtly.. we live miles away from eachother (Nic) so that is way we are struggling.. If he lived here, yes it would be ON, and he knows it.

I want it to be that way, but we have been best friends for 6 years and have never talked about "us", even though we flirt and say ILY all the time, that is as far as the love goes..

Nic.. Did you read my thread.. Things I have learned?? If not, read it and reply to it and let me know what you think.. I am curious..

Nic.. thank you for the explanation.. sometimes it takes us aqua's a minute to catch on...

Oh lord you guys are rediculous. No wonder you are in such a pickle, you are in love with each other but afraid to touch each other. Jesus christ he is probably going nutz over this just as much as you do.

You need to arrange it so you are in the same place at the same time and LET ALL of your inhibitions leave you. And make sure you set aside enough time cuz after six years and not even a kiss he is going to make you hit every octive within the ability of human ears to process. I can't believe you two. Your confused because you need a good ol fasion orgasm. my god...........

OMG You're too crazy and funny.. I am crackin' up over here!!

What to do.. what to do..

I will work on it. I am trying to lock him down to one weekend a month we see each other. Some consistance so I can plan things accordingly.. Maybe after tonights convo he will think about me more critically and I can approach him with this again. The last time I asked him to go on a buz trip with me, he said.."you're not going to try anything are you" and that hurt my feelings so later I brought it up and asked why he felt that having sex (makin' love) would be the worse thing ever, and he said.. cuz it would. I wrote him an email about that and told him he hurt me when he said that. I know he is just saying that bc we have such a good friendship and it would change dramatically, but it would be soo good and he knows that, so I am not sure why he is greatly avoiding me on this issue.. unless it is because he knows he would then be "in love" which is something I don't think he wants to feel for anyone right now...

Thank you though.. you made my day.. so blunt and to the point.. Love it!!

No, i don't know how else to say it, you both have the same problem, you can't just close your eyes and fall back.

^^^^That was before your last post.

No that is exactly why he said that, he thinks it will ruin your friendship. If things are the way they sound between you, it is also the only thing that is going to make you both realize you need to be together. the power of great sex.

Great advise..*aqua's mind is awed**

aqua just seduce him - simple!!!! He wants it - Im with you nic!!! I would go right out of my way to go and spend some time with him - bring some wine or whatever you guys like to drink and act out those flirtations you've been doing of late.........sheesh!!!

go girl~!

Chatz is right, just don't be too foreward in the setting it up part. Don't tell him "we need to do this" tell him something like "I'm convinced I need to see you in private and soon." If he askes questions regarding the mystery don't give in, allude to having a plan, don't give him the plan.

And, heres the hard part where Chatz being a leo should have some expertise. Your gonna have to make the first move, and don't do it so much with words, do it with looks and touching. Seriously grab his hand and put it on you, look at him in a way that communicates you know exactly what you are doing, and make him use his arm to pull you in. This is being foreward without being foreward you know. Your letting him know you want it, then giving the control to him and merely suggesting what he do....that is how you dodge the submission clusterfuck.

oh yeah baby!!!! Brats if you wanna go offline with this we can LOL....I have a perfect scenario I did only the other day with mine!!! sorry Nic...and thanks for the "compliment" LOL.

OMG!! Ya'll are tryin to get him pregnant!!😉 I'm all in, but I have to wait until the end of Jan.. I am traveling for biz and am going to ask him to join me.. he turned me down, kinda last time I asked him to go with me.. I told him I am tired of him having all the control over this relationship, he gives me no control over when I can or can not see him.. the only way I can see him is if I travel to him, and I have done that 2x in the past 3 months.. tired. But he claims he does not have all the control over this, so maybe he will give in this time and go with me.. hopefully, I think I have a good chance.. I am going to wait until it is around the day to say something, but am going to make comments about having to go on a biz trip and that I will be bored in the hotel all alone..maybe I will say something about possibly going out by myself or meeting up with some co-workers to pass the time.. that will make him think he needs to be there with me.. hopefully.. I will keep you all posted.. I am excited. Even if we do not do "the deed" at least I want us to get away have a chance to talk and maybe do some heavy making-out.. 😉 that will be fine too... we have never even done that... so that will be a good place to start..

It's just that ...I know he is having "extra relations" with another female and I don't know how I feel about sharing him.. I may get hurt and am a little fearful of that.. Well we'll see won't we.. Nicodemus you're great and Chatz... you know already know...!

NO, you will do the "deed"...think positive and you will achieve!!!! Its in your hands now and you CAN make this happen if you want it bad enough 🙂

*thinks positively for you* 😉

If you do do the deed don't pressure him in to dropping this other girl. It is in our nature to be resistant to other people telling us how they want us to act. Just let him know that you would like to see him on a more commited level, and let him know he is worth a bit of a wait while he ties up loose ends. If he feels he is given the freedom to deal with it how he thinks he should he will only appreciate that and think more highly of your relationship abilities.

I was in a similar situation when I started seeing my ex virgo. we ended up sleeping together after not seeing each other for almost a year. I was also seeing another girl casually. She told me she wanted to be with me and at the same time let me know that she was sincere and for real while also telling me she knows I had been seeing the other girl for a while and to take care of it however I wanted and she knew I'd be back soon enough. For the next three weeks or so I was wrapping things up with the other girl (sag) and I was sleeping with her while we wrapped things up, the virgo was completely comfortable with how ever I needed to finish it, and was just greatful that I would come around to her. That is how you have to treat a libra in this situation.

that's good sound advice once again nic!! u never fail to impress 🙂

Hmmmm now I just have to work out as to how the hell Im going to secure things with the Libra Im seeing who clearly isn't seeing anybody else...he has stated this and no I didn't ask and he wouldn't lie would he?? 😉 Im figuring if he's spending time with me there must be something in his brain to make him feel its a good thing *shrugs* coz he keeps coming back for more of my crazy talk/laughs and stuff...things look brighter thats for sure and Im enjoying the ride once again...was a bit worried for a while but the patience paid off - now just gotta find more of it LOL.

oh and Brats if u get him pregnant, you guys will be rich!!!!

"Libra Im seeing who clearly isn't seeing anybody else...he has stated this and no I didn't ask and he wouldn't lie would he?"

Likely no, as long as you didn't pry it from him which you said he just told you on his own.

Chatz.."oh and Brats if u get him pregnant, you guys will be rich!!!!"

Gotta love it! Crazy girl..

Nic.. thank you.. very sound advice and the example was wonderful.. Now we will have to see what transpires over the next few weeks. 😉

nope nic I did not pry it out of him.....he tells me too much sometimes LOL. Im the one who doesnt say that much about me. He likes talking about him and I like listening 🙂

Thats good. It sounds like you are making all the right moves on your end. I hope you guy comes around. I am interrested in how this goes becuase Leo girls and I haven't worked out so well in the past. She had a lot of issues not attributed to astrology though so I may have a bad taste in my mouth for no reaon.

well nic I will definitely keep you posted. I guess your Leo has left you in the same state my Gemini left me - man he had issues!!!! But as you say, it isn't ALL about astrology but to date another Gemini? ummmmmm I dun think so LOL.

And I hope Im making all the right moves at my end.....have to admit the advice on here has been so helpful - had I not come here I think I would have totally stuffed everything up with being emotional/demanding as he was giving mixed signals but now it all makes sense.....one wonderful thing he has taught me is PATIENCE and even if we don't work out I will take this patience with me into my life beyond, and in a way I am a somewhat changed person....I mean Im normally a happy go lucky person - LOVE laughing and making other people laugh - it is important to me (I think this is what he likes about me coz he is somewhat reserved and shy and I bring out some spontanaity and fun into his life, whereas he keeps me somewhat settled and back down to earth) but along with being this way, I have learnt a great skill nobody before has been able to get into my brain: PATIENCE!!! oh and being emotional/clingy is something I will never want to be ever again.

Plus I think I have a friend for life with this guy even if we don't work out 🙂

Very good Chatz.. you are learning a lot. I am also. Even though I have not been able to put much into practice.. patience is the key. Plus for us aqua's it takes a bit longer for things to sink in.. we have to consider things over and over in our minds, until we burst.. then we do something about it. That is when DXP 101 will come into play...

well I think we should take some notes in the last new topic I put up for the boys!!! 😉