Those dating their opposite sign are mislead

When a Libra dates an Aries, they are barking up the wrong tree.
It is a sign that they are confused and don't have a clue who they are.

If they have a clue, they would not see anyone of the oppostie sign at all, because, they're, well, opposites! They take away who they are instead of become more of who they are.

In life, we're about self-actualisation. To date an Aries means you're going to backtrack. Whatever you do, it's wrong in their eyes (and vice versa fyi), because we do things in the totally opposite way!

Usually Aries and Libra come together based on a huge attraction factor.
Aries(f) will always be the chaser, or if they're cunning, they will manipulate the libra(m) to chase them. The Libra (m) is usually blinded by the attraction, and mistake it for true compatibility. Why? because the aries female is a huge ego stroker. She knows libra's weak points and will use it for her benefit.

Usually immature libras need that ego boost that the aries female will always provide. But, the catch is that she will use it to manipulate him to her bidding.

The Libra female falls for the aries male based on her notion of the 'knight in the shining armour' concept. He is pretty much that knight in story books. She looks to him to save her and protect her always. But she doesn't know that the Aries is a super control freak and he will give her plenty anxiety because of his angry emotional outbursts.. The aries man does not listen to reason the way libra does, and he goes by emotional power/ superiority.

Aries are not Libra's true match..

But only from experience do some people really learn..

Aries will provide the most challenge for libra (apart from cancer and capricorn), and only the masochistic types should get into this one for the long term.

It is possible for the aries to pretend to be civil and pleasant to attract and seduce a libra, but she cannot pretend for long.. that's when the dissolution comes up... And the libra can meet the aries' expectations for a short time before they give up and get really sick of them..

I always cringe when I know of an aries/libra coupling. They should really dig deeper..



(post your opinions/ disagreements)

When they're seeing a libra they are..

why? because arians tend to want things their way
and libras tend to give them what they want

thats why they seek libras

feel free to disagree, but I have found out that

the aries tend to seek libra as a safety net thing.. usually after a bout of bad relationships, they think libra is easier and safer. Like a pick and choose thing.

I think that aries who seek libras have a sort of self issues, they seek the constant mirroring of their shadow side.

Posted by amethyst2002

Posted by wtf?
you sound like..
every aries is out to manipulate people..

for his/her benefit..

She does that. She thinks we're all evil and so godawful toward Libras. Because Libras are innocent angels and can do no wrong, apparently. *rolls eyes*

What you mentioned can sound a bit like some other signs too. *cough*

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No, I'm speaking of opposing signs, its my area of interest being surrounded by my opposing sign my whole life.
It's not a matter of being godawful and evil (which is besides the point and yet true at some point), but, the compatibility, which has nothing to do with what you speak of (which is superficial)

Posted by wtf?
well.. it's up to the libra to make sure..
he/she isn't being taken advantage of..

Yeah, they live ad learn, right?

^^ My dads an aries too, he's a good person.

It's not a matter of being good people, its a matter of compatiblity. The way you say it, its like all scorps are bad people ....

its not a matter of being bad people, but the way they do things.. the way they see themselves and the way they have been engineered in this life fashioned after a star.

I may be wrong, but I have seen a few cases of libra aries (and experienced them myself) to form a hypothesis...

Libras tend to listen to themselves only (tried and tested) and I'm just posting this out there for feedback..

^^ Let's try not to get personal here.

This is my theory and I have formed it based on aries who have moved in and out of my life (some who are still there). No, not all have bad upbringings.

But the way they do things and say things are totally not up libra's alley.

I am trying to illustrate lack of compaitibility here; you are trying to personal attack here.

This is one large issue of libra-aries. Plus aries usually having the 'clan' mentality and using others or name dropping to support their points/ make them feel more confident in their points.

Posted by wtf?

It is possible for the aries to pretend to be civil and pleasant to attract and seduce a libra

I can see what u mean by this..
a female aries tried to run this on me..

it didn't bother me though..
libras turn on the charm to get things from people..
u can't deny this, spicachu..

plus.. the thing is..
I usually rely on vibes I get from people the 1st time..
she had a good presence..

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does she have venus in pisces?

may aries closest friend managed to fool me for 10 years, I hate to think I was too dumb to not rely on my vibes..

Posted by amethyst2002

Posted by wtf?
dunno..

scorpios are the ones who give me headaches..
or tend to awake the worst in me..

aries.. nah..
my mother and aunt are aries..
good people..

Yeah, when you gave that example above, Scorpio is what came to mind. :/

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Pfft, pushing all the blame on scorpio to relieve aries of the guilt eh?

aries and scorpio are pretty much the same.. they're both warriors..

my mum and pops are aries and scorpio.. I have analysed them to death their battle style s.

Posted by wtf?
aries sun/ libra moon/ mercury in aries/ venus in pisces..

she's a smooth warrior..

Then one of the better specimens of aries out there.. probably.
but they're still aries..
I havent known one with libra plus pisces influence IRL,
but I know a venus in pisces recently ( a coworker ), nice heart

anyway GL..

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Posted by wtf?

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I'm curious to hear your POV on why aries tend to like Libras..

considering I have tried to ask this on DXP and it seems to me ariens dont know themselves enough to even explain anything..

for me, the ariens I know tend to keep to themselves certain things they would ask others on (saying they're lazy to say it) as a strategy.. btw I know aries' strategies more than you think.. because I work backwords and considering aries was once my closest friends, I can actually know how their minds work.

And to tell u honestly, its drastically different from libras (but then you wouldnt want libras to know that)

i gtg, will chk back and reply..
bye

yw wtf..

Posted by amethyst2002
Uh huh. I've heard your story before. It sucks that you've chosen to surround yourself by such shitty people, but blaming it all on their sign is a bit much. YOU chose to have them as friends in your life. Believe it or not, some people's behaviors are also based on their upbringing. I'm sorry you had to deal with a bunch of shitty Aries and chances are they were immature and/or raised to be such selfish twats.

However, you should realize that not every single Aries is like that. Upbringing has a LOT to do with it as well.

I've known Libras who just piss me off to no end because they're such ridiculous people. They have issues, are two faced, and use people. BUT, they are also immature and were raised in spoiled environments. However, I know plenty who are perfectly fine and the total opposite of this.

Same applies to all signs, regardless of romantic relationship or not.

As WTF said, it's up to them whether or not they allow them to push them around like that, so pinning the blame on one sign to victimize the other is a bit ridiculous. YOU have control how others treat you. If they can manipulate someone into doing something they don't want to do, then that shows how weak they are, or how little they think of them self.

But hey, it's a whole lot easier to pin the blame on someone else than on your own mistakes and shortcomings, right? Aries aren't perfect, but neither are Libras, like you're always pointing out in this situation.

dude dont mind me saying, but when you reacted in personal attack mode it tells me something I said struck a chord, that means it is true.. because if it wasnt true, you could refute my points, which you actually didnt.

totally agree on the original post. and i think there's been a lot of nastiness since it from people who don't know how to disagree politely.

funny example of how aries can be...
i joined a dating website late last year. originally, i included something on my profile about being nice and liking to make people happy (true). about half the guys who messaged me were aries sun signs. really. and a lot of messages from them. i then edited my profile to remove the part about being nice and liking to make people happy, replacing it with something about being a smart ass who was also really sweet (also true). since then i've received far fewer messages, but the ratio of aries who message me has probably become closer to 1 in 15 to 1 in 20 messages. the qualities of the guys has gone up on average. and the number of guys who appear to be looking for a girl to take advantage of has taken a nosedive.

while correlation is not causation, i do think it's funny that pretty much all the guys who'd be looking for a doormat-girl were aries.

no comment here lol i'm happy with my aries 😄

Posted by seavixen2
My ex is a Libra and one of the things I admire about him is that he is extremly tolerant. He doesn't sweat the smalll stuff and doesn't easily lose his temper

I agree completely but sometimes I feel they are too tolerant which can be a problem sometimes, they must strike a balance between tolerant or being pushed around.

Posted by curious visitor
totally agree on the original post. and i think there's been a lot of nastiness since it from people who don't know how to disagree politely.

funny example of how aries can be...
i joined a dating website late last year. originally, i included something on my profile about being nice and liking to make people happy (true). about half the guys who messaged me were aries sun signs. really. and a lot of messages from them. i then edited my profile to remove the part about being nice and liking to make people happy, replacing it with something about being a smart ass who was also really sweet (also true). since then i've received far fewer messages, but the ratio of aries who message me has probably become closer to 1 in 15 to 1 in 20 messages. the qualities of the guys has gone up on average. and the number of guys who appear to be looking for a girl to take advantage of has taken a nosedive.

while correlation is not causation, i do think it's funny that pretty much all the guys who'd be looking for a doormat-girl were aries.

They would be looking for doormat types, but when they marry, they'll marry someone who can manipulate them to a T usually..

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Posted by amethyst2002

Posted by wtf?
you sound like..
every aries is out to manipulate people..

for his/her benefit..

She does that. She thinks we're all evil and so godawful toward Libras. Because Libras are innocent angels and can do no wrong, apparently. *rolls eyes*

What you mentioned can sound a bit like some other signs too. *cough*

It's a thin line between love and hate. She knows she really love Aries and scared to admit it, lol.

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Wow, aries self-centred reasoning. I thought you were one of the more level headed arians but I guess I was wrong again..

Posted by valeria25

Posted by amethyst2002
Uh huh. I've heard your story before. It sucks that you've chosen to surround yourself by such shitty people, but blaming it all on their sign is a bit much. YOU chose to have them as friends in your life. Believe it or not, some people's behaviors are also based on their upbringing. I'm sorry you had to deal with a bunch of shitty Aries and chances are they were immature and/or raised to be such selfish twats.

However, you should realize that not every single Aries is like that. Upbringing has a LOT to do with it as well.

I've known Libras who just piss me off to no end because they're such ridiculous people. They have issues, are two faced, and use people. BUT, they are also immature and were raised in spoiled environments. However, I know plenty who are perfectly fine and the total opposite of this.

Same applies to all signs, regardless of romantic relationship or not.

As WTF said, it's up to them whether or not they allow them to push them around like that, so pinning the blame on one sign to victimize the other is a bit ridiculous. YOU have control how others treat you. If they can manipulate someone into doing something they don't want to do, then that shows how weak they are, or how little they think of them self.

But hey, it's a whole lot easier to pin the blame on someone else than on your own mistakes and shortcomings, right? Aries aren't perfect, but neither are Libras, like you're always pointing out in this situation.

word up, lady aries. 😉

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And your pretense of lack of judgment and favoritism is showing...

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Posted by seavixen2
My ex is a Libra and one of the things I admire about him is that he is extremly tolerant. He doesn't sweat the smalll stuff and doesn't easily lose his temper

I agree completely but sometimes I feel they are too tolerant which can be a problem sometimes, they must strike a balance between tolerant or being pushed around.

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Agreed.. so pushy signs like aries men and women as well as aquarian women (some of them anyway) should best be avoided.

spica, In reponse to WTF you wrote:

Posted by spica
When they're seeing a libra they are..

why? because arians tend to want things their way
and libras tend to give them what they want

thats why they seek libras

This sounds like something a young Aries would write.

I agree and disagree, it is a case by case thing: there are Libras who should never think of dating any fire sign ever, but there are Libras who are based in fire in love and friendships more so than other signs.

I feel that maybe you should avoid the Aries you have met that are not completely baked into who they are and stick to signs you feel comfortable with outside of them. But ruling out millions of people based on a handful of experiences is really not that deep of a scope of thought in my opinion. At the same time you have to derive and your own comfort zone in any debate.

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Posted by seavixen2
My ex is a Libra and one of the things I admire about him is that he is extremly tolerant. He doesn't sweat the smalll stuff and doesn't easily lose his temper

I agree completely but sometimes I feel they are too tolerant which can be a problem sometimes, they must strike a balance between tolerant or being pushed around.

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We usually are. It's not necissarily that we let ourselves be pushed around, it is that the Aries sensitivity and insecurity about being pushed around is a lot easier to get to than ours. We aren't afraid to stand up for ourselves, aren't afraid of a confrontation, we just have different views on what warrants those things.

When people try and push me around or exhibit some sort of power or dominance I just do my thing like it's not even there. If someone wants to make themselves look like a prick ill let them, ill tell them I will let them. I let other peoples shortcummings be theirs, if you try to battle over every time a situation like that arises all you do is validate their notion and justify it by competing over a lower state of being. I am better than that, if they aren't it's their problem not mine.

Where it crosses the line for me is if peoples actions affect my ability to act for myself. At that point your getting pushed around, when your getting pushed, push back harder.

It's just a different way of looking at the world.

Oh, I almost forgot, the exception is when we see people screw with other people. Then all of my previous post is void and we get the fighting shoes on right there.

One of my very best friends is an aries. I am a libra. Well he tries to pursue me all the time. Awhile back I gave in and got caught up in his charm and the fact that we were such good friends...I thought,"this could be perfect" then he played his game and tried to get me hooked and then get me to pursue him. I almost did. Then I figured it all out. Told him we could only be great friends. Besides I saw he treated and played with his girlfriend. He cheated on her all the time. Would I really want to be treated like that? Heck no! He is a great person and a great guy. But not meant for this libra girl.

Valeria, I think you didn't read the topic at all, as did most Aries. The topic here is DATING AN ARIES.

Stop putting your thoughts and opinions on what I am saying.

IMO, this is the libra-aries dynamic IN A RELATIONSHIP. They're just different.

And in relationships, you get intimate and that's where the true manfestations of both come out.

Aries and Libra are in the most basic of senses incompatible in relationships. I wrote this here because it is my opinion, and you come right in to try to change it?


In no way did I personally attack aries, but they come in to personally attack me when I wrote my viewpoint on it?

And I don't care how close you are to your mother. I cannot pretend I know your dynamic, but I know since Aqua is a FIXED sign, they are essentially "stronger" (if you like to use the word "weak") than Libras because their opinions just don't budge, and Libras usually will give way.

And I would just like to repeat, this is my opinion, not based on personal attacks, but an objective one I have reconciled after many experiences with Arians. They are okay as friends (but not close friends, Libra!), but they arent good FOR LIBRAS IN RELATIONSHIPS.

Take it or leave it.

And I never mentioned "downgrade", nor did I see anything like that. I just thought you were taking sides, which is fine by me.

Anyhow, I believe Aqua women identify with Aries alot, because Uranus admires the Martian energy. You're both pretty much the same, but in a different way.

And this is not a challenge.. I actually MEAN IT.. Aries and Libra are at cross purposes and trip each other up. It's a theory. Astrology is all about theories..
I dont care about arians who take this personally or whatever, a theory still stands no matter.

^^Note that that thing you quoted off me was further on in the chapter and Amethyst reacted to my FIRST post on it.

I am not saying aries are bad and etc, I think you all took it too personal.

Libras have alot of bad traits as well.

But overall, Aries and Libra don't gel because of the INTRINSIC architecture of their makeup.. this is what I meant..

Oh I'd LOVE to see an Aries' view on Libra.. it doesn't bother me too much, except when they single me out.. I hate prsonal attacks.
I like to see what Aries dislike about Libras.. so from there you can know more about the dynamics.

Posted by valeria25

Posted by spica
And I never mentioned "downgrade", nor did I see anything like that. I just thought you were taking sides, which is fine by me.

Anyhow, I believe Aqua women identify with Aries alot, because Uranus admires the Martian energy. You're both pretty much the same, but in a different way.

And this is not a challenge.. I actually MEAN IT.. Aries and Libra are at cross purposes and trip each other up. It's a theory. Astrology is all about theories..
I dont care about arians who take this personally or whatever, a theory still stands no matter.

I know you didnt mention downgrade. I DID. To show you that may be putting other signs DOWN. How would you FEEL if they did that to you?? You dont like it if people niched you all in one generalised awful row.

it's good to show the negatives as well as the positives, but you can't just not see that if it's hurtful to you, it may be hurtful to them??

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By the way, I don't think you don't have preferences. For example, you like virgo men, isn't that relegating them high up in the skies of subjectivity? And you have some beef with libras about being judgmental. Maybe you're being jedgmental based on your partiality to certain signs, have you thought about that—

"BTW, they didnt come to "attack" you; they were trying to tell you that they didnt like how you worded your topic, and even your fellow male libran at first mentioned that you sounded as if you were suggesting that "aries manipulate"??"


Phoa, you speak up for them? Is that really how they think, or how you think they think? Projecting your thoughts on Aries isn't going to make an objective argument. You dont know why they react the way they did..

Well, Libras manipulate as well, but Aries' manipulation are usually undetected by Libras. This was what I meant. Aries are much better strategists than Libras. Libras are muchly pacifists. That is why they are seen as "weak" and easily pushed around.

By the way I dont like your reference of "weakness". Maybe you should check that. Why is it so wrong to be "weak", and maybe, "weak" is subjective? Or just a different way of doing things that end up stronger in the end?

As Lao Tsu says, be like a reed. It bends and survives strong winds, while the large strong tree is felled. What may be seen as weakness may be strength afterall.

My opinon of weakness differs from yours. My opinion of weakness (taught to me by my Aqua teacher) is a front based off insecurities.. someone showing their vulnerability is based on streangth, because they are strong enough to be real.

"Your quote: Maybe you're being jedgmental based on your partiality to certain signs, have you thought about that—

LOL omg, spica, attack mode."


I dont see how that is attack mode, BUT since you're willing to pardon Aries on personal attacks, why not Libras?

Posted by valeria25
OH you know what??

that quote that you mentioned?

that was actually on the 2nd page.

I'll quote all the stuff you wrote on here, just in this topic alone, that shows your intolerance if you like.

And this shows you being judgmental.

I think I have a right to my opinion regarding Aries. Stop trying to control something out of your own perogative.

Posted by valeria25

Posted by spica
As Lao Tsu says, be like a reed. It bends and survives strong winds, while the large strong tree is felled. What may be seen as weakness may be strength afterall.

My opinon of weakness differs from yours. My opinion of weakness (taught to me by my Aqua teacher) is a front based off insecurities.. someone showing their vulnerability is based on streangth, because they are strong enough to be real.

That's what I've been trying to say before....

sigh.

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So, explain your point and your context please.

You put up alot of fronts yourself.. trying to be a knowitall humanitarian.. hiding your preferences when theyre so apparent.

Posted by valeria25

Posted by spica

Posted by valeria25
OH you know what??

that quote that you mentioned?

that was actually on the 2nd page.

I'll quote all the stuff you wrote on here, just in this topic alone, that shows your intolerance if you like.

And this shows you being judgmental.

I think I have a right to my opinion regarding Aries. Stop trying to control something out of your own perogative.

I have a right to your opinion?

Even if it's saying ALL aries?

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Yes, with some exceptions, of course.

Valeria, we are not on the same page. I felt you misconstrued or twisted what I said to meet your own prerogative.

I think that to budge in and think you can change the course of the OT is presumptuous and controlling on your part.

What I wrote is based off what I think; Libra and Aries wont make a good LTR, of course there are exceptions, but this is what I think. Maybe you should just accept it and stop judging.

Valeria, you were also attacking me by singling me out, right? Or canst thou only see things from your POV?

Maybe we (or just I ) should stop here.

" You put up alot of fronts yourself.. trying to be a knowitall humanitarian.. hiding your preferences when theyre so apparent.



that just read: ATTACK mode to me...as if you're trying to downgrade me. I never said anything to you that said you ARE A ____________ (insert something bad or offensive here). I dont know what to say."



Yes, I have to say it. You're pretty biased against Libras. But nothing wrong with that, FWIW. I just accept it.

Posted by valeria25

Posted by spica
Valeria, you were also attacking me by singling me out, right? Or canst thou only see things from your POV?

Maybe we (or just I ) should stop here.

I was talking to YOU because this is your topic and I saw your attack/snide remarks posts to both aries on the thread.

I was trying to help you see that that is WHY they disagreed with you.

Again it's ABOUT the way you worded it! You made it sound as if ALL of them are bad from your experience.

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No they are not bad. Did you see the part Iwrote my dad is aries? he is a good person.

What im trying to say here is that libra plus aries = non compatible for a LTR. Eventually they will split. Do you have a problem with theories?

Posted by valeria25

Posted by spica
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Yes, I have to say it. You're pretty biased against Libras. But nothing wrong with that, FWIW. I just accept it.

Have you not read anything i said in the previous? I said NOT ALL libras ....

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this doesnt explain anything. You are still biased based on other factors, re: Gemini decanates?

Do you know anything about squares and oppositions? Astrology is wholly biased in itself.. do you have beef with theories or astrological biasness in itself?

Posted by valeria25

Posted by spica
Valeria, we are not on the same page. I felt you misconstrued or twisted what I said to meet your own prerogative.

I think that to budge in and think you can change the course of the OT is presumptuous and controlling on your part.

What I wrote is based off what I think; Libra and Aries wont make a good LTR, of course there are exceptions, but this is what I think. Maybe you should just accept it and stop judging.

well I'm not trying to construe or twist. I am repeating what I've been trying to say. 😢

that the two aries came in here, and I too, to agree with the fact that your topic and many of your words in comments seemed very demeaning to them. Because NOT every aries are like that...

I'm sorry if you had bad experiences with some. Note that, when I say not all libras, I am being fair, like a Libra would be fair (one of the better traits), and you mentioned yourself earlier that libras too have faults. We all do.

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I will say it one more time: Libra and Aries dont match well for a LTR. This was my point. Take it or leave it.

"
I'm sorry but I dont try and go by books in that sense to go by how people are...

because no matter how much people can try to analyse and think they KNOW someone or a sign, no one can truly know...

And NO i'm not biased against Libras."


Laughs... maybe you should quit astrology. Because astrology labels people..

" I will say it one more time: Libra and Aries dont match well for a LTR. This was my point. Take it or leave it.

Allright, Spica. "

Unless the Aries BECOMES Libra and Libra BECOMES Aries. This is cross purposing.

I think I have the right to form a viewpoint re: Libra and Aries. Fellow Libras arent going to listen if they dont want to anyway. Neither will other signs.

But your argument here is trying to dilute it based on generality. I think you're just trying to humour me here.

I dont go middle of the road, but I know for a fact very strongly regarding my origina topic.


Exceptions include Libras with fire or Cap moons, because they can take or withstand Aries' self centred demands more. But life, is all about misery. If they choose whatever, then its up to them. I am just speaking my mind.


**And BTW, I ventured into other boards (ie virgos) and they're full of compartmentalisations, why didnt you point it out to them? Oh well, because Valeria favors Vrgo based on her imminent romance with a Virgo. I accept that. Peoplemlabel and categorise others. Just stop picking on one and close blind eye to another. Thats double standards and it aint pretty.

"I just dont like to label people because people are much more complicated than trying to niche them in a book."

Then let others label if they want to. Just don't do it.

I dont like to argue with an Aquarius. You just dont make alot of logical sense to me...

Okay, I am full of dirty tricks, when I point out to you something from another board?

Fine.

Have all the preferences you want. It doesnt bother me!

"But this isn't about other boards. This is about THIS topic."

But I am getting evidence to support my point from other places.

When you're in a case you gotta look everywhere. To make it ONLY this board is a dirty trick in itself. Because you're accusing me of something you also do yourself.

"I'm not having preferences! I keep telling you that."

It's not about words. Its about actions. And the actions show you do.
But in my book, it isnt a sin.

You aquas have very skewed logic.. I dont know how to argue with you, its like going up a wall.

And basically, Valeria, you have presumed I am just talking crack out of nowhere when I made this topic. You just dont know how much experience and thinking I have done to come up with this.
I have actually written articles on it that was accepted by an astro authority. Ithink if they accept it, then I am sure my wors have some value.

But I know opinions are going to differ. this is mine and so..

Posted by valeria25

Posted by spica
"But this isn't about other boards. This is about THIS topic."

But I am getting evidence to support my point from other places.

When you're in a case you gotta look everywhere. To make it ONLY this board is a dirty trick in itself. Because you're accusing me of something you also do yourself.

AGAIN. I keep telling you over and over again, the original point is that you were generalising ALL aries are like bad bad (i'm not going to quote all your comments here), and I'm trying to point out that the reason why a couple aries disagreed and myself included is because you were making that kind of generalisation.

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I take it you dont like my generalisation. Can you take it I'm not gonna change it?
Ive read astrology since I was a teen. I have told myself what you told me a countless times. I read about aries and I ignored it based on generalisations.
But fast forward a decade, I sieved it and adapted it to my experiences. I think its valid.

And I like and have an interest in compatibility research. This is first and foremost what I found.. because its close to home.