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Alter ego...?
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We are conditioned from the moment we are born. We are conditioned socially, sexually and economically. We dont even know it is happening. Most, if not, all of the time we live for our desires without even realising it; it is like a blind lust for everything. We are animals led by our appetites. At the end of the day our animal natures prevail whether we realise it or not. This is how wars start and from where most of the problems in society stem from.
Most of us live in ignorance. If our lives are ok, we dont care about the lives of others. We are too afraid to rock the boat.
I dont know about the "I" and the "me" stuff the above information is how I see it. That's why i would like to live on an Island or in the country, so i dont have to put up with people's sicknesses anymore. I dont understand why most people can not sit in a room in silence, most people need noise or distraction of some sort, are they too afraid to face themselves? What is wrong with people these days?
You should try to get some books by Roy Masters. Its pretty radical writing but makes a lot of sense. There's also a book by Jon Peniel called "The lost teachings of Atlantis". Its an excellent read, Ive read it twice and will be reading it a third time at the end of the year. Im just so sick of everybodies efforts to run away from themselves impacting on my life, sanity and peace of mind. Sorry to vent, im just having one of those days...
Most of us live in ignorance. If our lives are ok, we dont care about the lives of others. We are too afraid to rock the boat.
I dont know about the "I" and the "me" stuff the above information is how I see it. That's why i would like to live on an Island or in the country, so i dont have to put up with people's sicknesses anymore. I dont understand why most people can not sit in a room in silence, most people need noise or distraction of some sort, are they too afraid to face themselves? What is wrong with people these days?
You should try to get some books by Roy Masters. Its pretty radical writing but makes a lot of sense. There's also a book by Jon Peniel called "The lost teachings of Atlantis". Its an excellent read, Ive read it twice and will be reading it a third time at the end of the year. Im just so sick of everybodies efforts to run away from themselves impacting on my life, sanity and peace of mind. Sorry to vent, im just having one of those days...
Well, Durrie,
You are asking questions that pertain to you!
We are living in the WORLD, and these THINGS are part of it. I personally have always heard the beat of a different drum, and I have always been a rebellious spirit; I moved away from what ever society wanted to impose on me, all my life.
All that stuff you mentioned, would be for me the opposite reason for doing something or choosing a mate. I have always hated when someone tried to lure me into doing something under a guise. Or tried to convince me of something or impose their will trying to do it slyly!!!Doesn't mean I haven't ever fallen for it, but I have always questioned it and looked at things of the world with an eye of distrust!
The 'I' and 'Me' is the 'Old Indian with the two dogs theory. "They fight. One is evil and one dog is good! Which one wins the fight? The one you feed the most!"
The last question you asked is as silly as the one I asked yesterday about 'unconditional love contracts'; it is an oxymoron!
Have a blessed and spirit filled day!
Suzy-Q!
You are asking questions that pertain to you!
We are living in the WORLD, and these THINGS are part of it. I personally have always heard the beat of a different drum, and I have always been a rebellious spirit; I moved away from what ever society wanted to impose on me, all my life.
All that stuff you mentioned, would be for me the opposite reason for doing something or choosing a mate. I have always hated when someone tried to lure me into doing something under a guise. Or tried to convince me of something or impose their will trying to do it slyly!!!Doesn't mean I haven't ever fallen for it, but I have always questioned it and looked at things of the world with an eye of distrust!
The 'I' and 'Me' is the 'Old Indian with the two dogs theory. "They fight. One is evil and one dog is good! Which one wins the fight? The one you feed the most!"
The last question you asked is as silly as the one I asked yesterday about 'unconditional love contracts'; it is an oxymoron!
Have a blessed and spirit filled day!
Suzy-Q!
"I'm just so sick of everybodies efforts to run away from themselves impacting on my life, sanity and peace of mind. Sorry to vent, im just having one of those days..."
You may need to explain this. I don't understand what you mean by people running from themselves and it being at the expense of your sanity and peace of mind. Why are you the victim? Who made you wear the hat? Maybe these other people have 'trust issues' and that is why they are running?
Go ahead and vent though, it is healthy! Just don't hurt yourself or anyone while doing it!
There is another book and everything you need to know is in it. Some say it is too hard to understand, but if you have the smarts you can figure it out and you certainly sound as if you do!!! It may take several times reading it until you get into it.
I don't have a problem with people wanting to distract themselves from the world. Some can't handle the world and find it a butterty treetrunking place to be.
There are some people who find it to be a great place and are always positive and happy. It is just your perception. Someone who finds the good in things and makes it through never questioning the whys just living and enjoying it, IMO is a successful person. Just enjoy the little things. A ride in the car, a nice day, a day off, a smile, a good converstaion etc...
Stop trying to fix everything! You are gonna find yourself unhappy, unfulfilled, and extremly tired and run down.
Just accept people as they are. If you love them?
"Most of us live in ignorance."
I do believe ignorance is bliss sometimes, yes I do!
Be safe out or in there!
Suzy-Q!
You may need to explain this. I don't understand what you mean by people running from themselves and it being at the expense of your sanity and peace of mind. Why are you the victim? Who made you wear the hat? Maybe these other people have 'trust issues' and that is why they are running?
Go ahead and vent though, it is healthy! Just don't hurt yourself or anyone while doing it!
There is another book and everything you need to know is in it. Some say it is too hard to understand, but if you have the smarts you can figure it out and you certainly sound as if you do!!! It may take several times reading it until you get into it.
I don't have a problem with people wanting to distract themselves from the world. Some can't handle the world and find it a butterty treetrunking place to be.
There are some people who find it to be a great place and are always positive and happy. It is just your perception. Someone who finds the good in things and makes it through never questioning the whys just living and enjoying it, IMO is a successful person. Just enjoy the little things. A ride in the car, a nice day, a day off, a smile, a good converstaion etc...
Stop trying to fix everything! You are gonna find yourself unhappy, unfulfilled, and extremly tired and run down.
Just accept people as they are. If you love them?
"Most of us live in ignorance."
I do believe ignorance is bliss sometimes, yes I do!
Be safe out or in there!
Suzy-Q!
SusyQ...I absolutley loved the Old Indian analogy...nice one it perfectly echo's what I'm trying to get accross.
One thing bothers me though...you say above...
"you are asking questions that pertain to you..."
SusyQ...what is it you think as "I" pertains to you that doesn't pertain to me as well...—....unless of course within the scope and realm of society which we all have agreed on being a false world built on false belief...you said it yourself...you distrust it...!!!
The answer is simple...Nothing...it all exists within your mind as "me"...part of the society you choose as "me" to live in. On the other hand we ALL live in the universe with the laws of nature that dictate "absolute law" that trancends society and dictates ALL of our lives...
So why do we get so caught in society's lies and choose to live as "me"...—
It is actually quite selfish to believe that...and that's the key to it all which I will end off in later...!!!
It is only within the realm of society that you live in America and I live in England...what is England and what is America and how are they differant in God's eye's...—
It is only through you having a differant surname and going to a differant school with differant "me's" and their false beliefs in that society that you are tricked into believing you are seperate from any other soul with seperate rules to life and that the way it is and should be...HAH!!!
Think of how man has his own law and it differs from country to country from state to state in your country even. That is all the "me" thinking and interacting with the false demand of it's society with it's desires creating a false sense of security within that society. You are still able as a "me" or SusyQ to break those rules of society because they are false. Behind that there is another set of laws and rules that dictate to us ALL regarless of which society we have chosen to settle our life as "me" in because it suites our desires and wants as "me"...
You are thinking with the "me"..."me" lives in it's own false world and eventually "me" dies and hence is cursed into an endless cycle of life and death untill "me" realises that it is actually an "I"...one and the same as all else that it co-exists with in the universe as part of God.
We are all the same...all extensions of his Great Spirit so what you do unto yourself you do unto me...nothing can pertain to you and not me at the same time within the realm of "I".
The biggest flaw of man is believing he is a seperate entity from the universe and or God...we are all connected through his spirit we are all part of the One Godhead.
The key as I said I would end of with is learning to be selfless...
How do we do that...simple...forgiveness and learning to live and please God...not ourselves.
One thing bothers me though...you say above...
"you are asking questions that pertain to you..."
SusyQ...what is it you think as "I" pertains to you that doesn't pertain to me as well...—....unless of course within the scope and realm of society which we all have agreed on being a false world built on false belief...you said it yourself...you distrust it...!!!
The answer is simple...Nothing...it all exists within your mind as "me"...part of the society you choose as "me" to live in. On the other hand we ALL live in the universe with the laws of nature that dictate "absolute law" that trancends society and dictates ALL of our lives...
So why do we get so caught in society's lies and choose to live as "me"...—
It is actually quite selfish to believe that...and that's the key to it all which I will end off in later...!!!
It is only within the realm of society that you live in America and I live in England...what is England and what is America and how are they differant in God's eye's...—
It is only through you having a differant surname and going to a differant school with differant "me's" and their false beliefs in that society that you are tricked into believing you are seperate from any other soul with seperate rules to life and that the way it is and should be...HAH!!!
Think of how man has his own law and it differs from country to country from state to state in your country even. That is all the "me" thinking and interacting with the false demand of it's society with it's desires creating a false sense of security within that society. You are still able as a "me" or SusyQ to break those rules of society because they are false. Behind that there is another set of laws and rules that dictate to us ALL regarless of which society we have chosen to settle our life as "me" in because it suites our desires and wants as "me"...
You are thinking with the "me"..."me" lives in it's own false world and eventually "me" dies and hence is cursed into an endless cycle of life and death untill "me" realises that it is actually an "I"...one and the same as all else that it co-exists with in the universe as part of God.
We are all the same...all extensions of his Great Spirit so what you do unto yourself you do unto me...nothing can pertain to you and not me at the same time within the realm of "I".
The biggest flaw of man is believing he is a seperate entity from the universe and or God...we are all connected through his spirit we are all part of the One Godhead.
The key as I said I would end of with is learning to be selfless...
How do we do that...simple...forgiveness and learning to live and please God...not ourselves.
Libragirl...yes I feel your pain and I know where you are comming from by saying you would rather live in the country or on an island to escape the falsness and madness of the westernised world in it's cities but that's not all there is to it...
You need to realise what/who you "actually" are to be truely happy and that...well lets just say we are not primarily human beings...earth with it's man made society society and constant cycle of life and death in human and other worldly bodies is part of our souls matamorphisis in our journey of life as extensions of God himself...we are God's energy the all powerful oneness merely changing it's form just as Eienstein said.
You hit the nail on the head when you said most people need noise, distration and other stimuli to feel "normal"...but how can that be...how can being distrated give rise to a feeling of being normal...and what is normal anyway...normal to you as Libragirl is probably vastly differant to me Durrie...but when we talk on the level of our souls...there is no normal...there is only perfection!!!
What you have inadvertantly done by realising and saying that is that you realised that your "alter-ego" your "me" needs these stimuli and craves physical stimulation because that is all it knows and you think you need them to because we are brainwashed as you said from birth into believing our senses and we reliquish all controll unto those senses makeing it our life's duty to satisfy them instead of God.
Think of how a person will always say...Yeah right...I'll believe it when I see it.
There...that is giving into your senses and letting them dictate your life through being conditioned as you said from birth by believing you have control of the situation just through your sense of sight...HAH!!!
I don't expect you to see it but you even further agreed with my origional post by saying..."people are afraid to face themselves".
Again it's two differant things...the people...and themselves or the "I" and the "me".
You need to realise what/who you "actually" are to be truely happy and that...well lets just say we are not primarily human beings...earth with it's man made society society and constant cycle of life and death in human and other worldly bodies is part of our souls matamorphisis in our journey of life as extensions of God himself...we are God's energy the all powerful oneness merely changing it's form just as Eienstein said.
You hit the nail on the head when you said most people need noise, distration and other stimuli to feel "normal"...but how can that be...how can being distrated give rise to a feeling of being normal...and what is normal anyway...normal to you as Libragirl is probably vastly differant to me Durrie...but when we talk on the level of our souls...there is no normal...there is only perfection!!!
What you have inadvertantly done by realising and saying that is that you realised that your "alter-ego" your "me" needs these stimuli and craves physical stimulation because that is all it knows and you think you need them to because we are brainwashed as you said from birth into believing our senses and we reliquish all controll unto those senses makeing it our life's duty to satisfy them instead of God.
Think of how a person will always say...Yeah right...I'll believe it when I see it.
There...that is giving into your senses and letting them dictate your life through being conditioned as you said from birth by believing you have control of the situation just through your sense of sight...HAH!!!
I don't expect you to see it but you even further agreed with my origional post by saying..."people are afraid to face themselves".
Again it's two differant things...the people...and themselves or the "I" and the "me".
o gawd... everyone needs different things, we are all different and yet the same. Do you understand? Some ppl like to stay in quiet rooms because they like to be with themselves and stuff and others just need that constant thing where they have to be around ppl. Nothing wrong with that. Yes, we live in a world where EVERYONe, EVEN YOU follow the "society". But is that necessarilly a BAD thing? Sometimes, i feel like society is truly, well, F*CKED UP. But sometimes i feel like we need society, we need that direction in our lives. Ofcourse, you can go on ur own path but sometimes we just need it, because we're not god. But maybe, we were brought up to think this way, i really dont know. Yes, women use makeup, but whats so wrong about wanting to feel pretty sometimes? And who cares?? Gawd, this society wants everyone to accept themselves, sociable, amd have confidence, what about the ppl who cant?? what about the ppl who just dont want to be socializing, does that mean there is something WRONG with them? NO. Thats just the person they are. What about the ppl who dont have much confidence, is there something wrong? NO. Thats just the person they are. Why is that society always picks those things and makes sucha big deal out of it?? Its so stupid. Not everyone can be confident, sociable, and accepting of themself. Wow, omg im confident, does that make me beautiful? Maybe to some ppl because thats just what they see as beauty but some ppl its not. They like other qualities, and thats why we're not all alike. If we were, that would be kinda frickin scary. Just live your life, routine or no routine, travel or no travel, seeking or no seeking, etc etc. Even though this world is filled with laws and rules, we cant do anything about it. We can atleast show our opinion and maybe it'll do for atleast 1 person..for the better. But other than that, how are you gonna change the whole goddamn world? and why even have so much resentment toward it? Whats it gonna do for you??
All i know is that i gotta do shi*t for myself, i gotta live my life, do the things that will benefit for me, i do care about the ppl that are around me. I'm not gonna be totally selfish as to just throw ppl away and not give a damn bout them, but sometimes you just gotta fend for yourself. Right now, im trying to find myself, i dont really know how but i know im going on that path to realize it. Maybe, i'll never find out who i am, maybe i'll never realize that society is molding me. But atleast i dont wanna live my life toward resenting the world, the ppl. Because thats just being like society in a way. Sometimes, i feel like i've totally lost myself but i know that, that "me" is in me. "I" and "Me" are still ME. I put on makeup, you can say i follow society, go to school, do the daily routine that i have to do to survive in this frickin world but i know that i havent forgotten to do what i can do for me. To be who i am.. i cant really explain that..but i do speak my mind and i do the things that i need to do for myself. Does that help at all? I want to travel, i like change, i like socializing, i'm just being me..but sometimes i do question myself, is this really me?? I have so many faces, and im sure everyone puts on their faces in different moods and situations but i guess thats just the path im going to self realization.
I do feel misplaced sometimes here. but im sure everyone feels that way at times.
WEE IM A BUTTERFLY! BUTTERFLY AS IN "I" NOT "ME" SO IM NOT EVIL! HEHE!
OMG MINA LOL -_-'
WHATCHU THINK?! YOU THINK YOU CAN HATE ON ME BECAUSE IM A SOCIETY BUTTERFLY?! AW HELL NAW *sparks you*
LOL!! FOOLISH child!! *slaps her silly*
"Sometimes, i feel like society is truly, well, F*CKED UP. But sometimes i feel like we need society, we need that direction in our lives. Ofcourse, you can go on ur own path but sometimes we just need it, because we're not god."
This is from the same young lady who on the Cancer thread decribed her favorite place as the 'masterbation room'hehehe
Well, if anyone has been fits into society, I would say it was this one!
Now don't give me any lip. I'm not judging you; I think it is great to have a healthy sex life, and when I get a hold of a man who is slightly perverted, he is never gonna walk straight again! LOL!
Just do what you want. It is your life so live it! We can't be perfect we are not God, like you said!!!
We can try though.
But, I am just gonna tell him when I see him. Look, I did the best I could with what I was given to work with! OK!
He has my love and I am not an evil person but I am human and humans screw up and make mistakes. It is how you deal with them that counts!
Your all great!
Your Mother
This is from the same young lady who on the Cancer thread decribed her favorite place as the 'masterbation room'hehehe
Well, if anyone has been fits into society, I would say it was this one!
Now don't give me any lip. I'm not judging you; I think it is great to have a healthy sex life, and when I get a hold of a man who is slightly perverted, he is never gonna walk straight again! LOL!
Just do what you want. It is your life so live it! We can't be perfect we are not God, like you said!!!
We can try though.
But, I am just gonna tell him when I see him. Look, I did the best I could with what I was given to work with! OK!
He has my love and I am not an evil person but I am human and humans screw up and make mistakes. It is how you deal with them that counts!
Your all great!
Your Mother
I think Durrie is on the right path.
We cant live in the world completely nor can we stand outside of it.
We have to have a balance between our human side and our spirtiual side. If we put more of ourselves in to one than the other it creates instability of the mind and heart.
Get it together people!
Love
Your Mother
We cant live in the world completely nor can we stand outside of it.
We have to have a balance between our human side and our spirtiual side. If we put more of ourselves in to one than the other it creates instability of the mind and heart.
Get it together people!
Love
Your Mother
My point is...JUST LOVE SOMEBODY AND BE HAPPY AND ENJOY LIFE!!!!
OK, DID I MAKE MY POINT—
YOUR MOTHER!
OK, DID I MAKE MY POINT—
YOUR MOTHER!
LOL i was JOKING your mother, good to know some ppl were like o_O about it ^^
and i agree with your mother, just have some love and be happy and enjoy life!! mu har har.
but sometimes those words are hard to follow, oi. Anyway, spiritual life? Hmmm... i agree with you also on that but i have other things on mind and stress along with it. I think maybe your advice can do me some good
i guess balance is the key...or something like that.
"its not fitting into society thats bad, its going along with popular, bad ideas and social views without questioning them just cuz everyone thinks that way...thats whats bad"
everyone tries to be "different" these days..it gets to the point where it becomes conventional when its suppose to be 'unconventional.'
Yes, everyone wants to be heard and this is what I noticed the only way to do that is to be a little different then so be it. I will always go by my heart and good old fashion commom sense. And watching the folks who fought the really hard battles like Dr. Martin Luther King, Abraham Lincoln, Harriet Tubman, The Kennedys, Geronimo, etc...so many These are my examples and of course my love of the Lord.
I try and use the stuff that has been handed down to me over the years from the older ones and has worked, for me.
Your Mother
I try and use the stuff that has been handed down to me over the years from the older ones and has worked, for me.
Your Mother
do you think you fit into the society your mother?
Luz,
Not so much anymore! The world is a different place now then it was back in the days I was running around and in some respects it has changed for the better(60's) and then it stopped and we became complacent and let it go to hell. That is no reason to give up though.
Not a very good answer but it is what it is!
Your Mother!
Not so much anymore! The world is a different place now then it was back in the days I was running around and in some respects it has changed for the better(60's) and then it stopped and we became complacent and let it go to hell. That is no reason to give up though.
Not a very good answer but it is what it is!
Your Mother!
"I'm just so sick of everybodies efforts to run away from themselves impacting on my life, sanity and peace of mind. Sorry to vent, im just having one of those days..."
You may need to explain this. I don't understand what you mean by people running from themselves and it being at the expense of your sanity and peace of mind. Why are you the victim? Who made you wear the hat? Maybe these other people have 'trust issues' and that is why they are running?
Oh Suzi-Q, i was just having a bad day, i think city life is getting from me. What i meant by the comment was that i am sick of coming home, sitting in my flat and having to hear everybody elses noise (television etc...) through the walls when all i want to do is lie or sit in silence. I think i really want to be with nature and have been entertaining the idea of moving to a more rural spot for my next 'move', i think its where im at. The city life is a pain and i think i truelly belong in the country or at least out of the city somewhere. Thanks for the compliment about being able to understand the book, i need one today. Whats the book called?
Durrie, i understand all the stuff about the alter ego and its need to be fed. I also know i, and all people, need to know who we are, its just so hard when you've got all this propoganda and distraction around you all the time. I'll be right, just having a bad day or week, too much work i think ;I
Luz, Im usually a happy positive person. Its good to be reminded of that though. We can sit and whinge all we like (and i am right now) but at the end of the day we are better off than the Palestines in occupied Palestine. I watched a documentary on it last night and couldnt believe the injustices and treatment these people receive. I think the major problem in my life right now is that im not doing what i really want to do. Its one of those blahhhh days...
Ok, off to the supermarket for some chocolate biscuits and some calamari!!!
See ya guys xx.
You may need to explain this. I don't understand what you mean by people running from themselves and it being at the expense of your sanity and peace of mind. Why are you the victim? Who made you wear the hat? Maybe these other people have 'trust issues' and that is why they are running?
Oh Suzi-Q, i was just having a bad day, i think city life is getting from me. What i meant by the comment was that i am sick of coming home, sitting in my flat and having to hear everybody elses noise (television etc...) through the walls when all i want to do is lie or sit in silence. I think i really want to be with nature and have been entertaining the idea of moving to a more rural spot for my next 'move', i think its where im at. The city life is a pain and i think i truelly belong in the country or at least out of the city somewhere. Thanks for the compliment about being able to understand the book, i need one today. Whats the book called?
Durrie, i understand all the stuff about the alter ego and its need to be fed. I also know i, and all people, need to know who we are, its just so hard when you've got all this propoganda and distraction around you all the time. I'll be right, just having a bad day or week, too much work i think ;I
Luz, Im usually a happy positive person. Its good to be reminded of that though. We can sit and whinge all we like (and i am right now) but at the end of the day we are better off than the Palestines in occupied Palestine. I watched a documentary on it last night and couldnt believe the injustices and treatment these people receive. I think the major problem in my life right now is that im not doing what i really want to do. Its one of those blahhhh days...
Ok, off to the supermarket for some chocolate biscuits and some calamari!!!
See ya guys xx.
That is meant to be, "I think city life is getting to me". Dont know what happened there.
*hugs libragirl* ^^ hope you have better days, and remember if you got any probz, i'll be here to comfort ya or like give you some advice lol not saying im gonna be like preeching or nothing but its always nice to want to be a good friend and stuffies even if i'm not the best at giving advice.
wth lol its like 11:28 PM here.....fools!!!!!!!!
Nobody has thought of the possibility that the 'I' and 'me' don't really exist at all. There is no permanence in the physical form; everything will at some stage cease to exist. I don't believe there is an 'I'. I believe we are all connected in the 'one'. Religion does not distinguish between the I and the greater being or alternative state of existence. The 'I' is just another way we have found to imprison ourselves.
Thanks luz, i just vented on the other posts. I think my problems are pretty self explainatory there. Basically i am not being myself and there is so much WRONG with my life that i have just realised i will have to shed it all and start again. Its not a nice feeling but its necessary for change. I know that i eventually have to let go of everything in my life in order to live with the integrity that i want. Whatever stays around will be fine but whatever drops off is no longer good for me anyway. I think I'm also freaking out about this U.S thing and the war. I think we're going to go to war and that this will be the end. I think Nostrodamis was right. Oh im in a state and when im like this there is no pulling me out, its just a big pile of ooze and i eventually make my way out. I dont feel suicidal or anything, just bogged down with worry.
Anyway, that's life, it cant be good all the time. I could go on and on but i won't. When im like this i also analyse the butter out of everything and drive myself insane.
Have a good day my gemini friend and feel free to enlighten me with some of your fresh gemini ideas 🙂
Anyway, that's life, it cant be good all the time. I could go on and on but i won't. When im like this i also analyse the butter out of everything and drive myself insane.
Have a good day my gemini friend and feel free to enlighten me with some of your fresh gemini ideas 🙂
Haha, i just saw, "butter", how funny. Yes, a glimpse of light in this worry filed life of mine...🙂
Thanks guys...thanks for your comments...they are all much appreciated.
Much of what you say is true and I think a common denominator to be taken away here is to do what makes you happy so long as it does in interfere or hinder others...that's fine...that's noble...but that is what I have always done...
I have always been fair...I have always been good and always been polite...so then I began to ask myself why do I deserve to have hardship, pain, grief, sorrow and all that in my life.?
If there indeed is a God what kind of God gives me these things as rewards to my fairness...why should I bother...—
God's gift to us through physical life is freedom of choice. We live here on a physical plane where we have five senses and the more we associate with those senses and try to gratify them through our choice the more we are bound by them to this physical plane.
This simple process I've described above is called karma.
My point by sharing with you my realisation of the "me" and "I" was to try and assure you all that we all DO have a soul. Our soul is not worldly...our soul transcends the physical realm of life and is hence much more important and powerful because that is in essence who we actually are and what we should aspire to grow as because that is our only way to progress in life...or rather "TRUE LIFE"...that is we grow our "TRUE SELF"...!!!
So all these things that I felt were improperly imposed on me by God and the cosmos were as I have recently discovered my own fault...for if there was no God they could have only been imposed on me by myself...!!!
I was and still am very physically run by my mind as I have a job...I have a car...I have my favorate chair and even my favorate pair of jeans...but why...—
Why do I have these things...it's simple...
Because they please "me"...they please Durrie and Durrie is imperfect, Durrie is human so Durrie's pleasure is false pleasure...!!!
it is not even 1/10 of the size of a drop in the ocean that is God's pleasure.
We all wish to be perpetually happy...we all wish to be perpetually at peace but how stupid are we to believe it is possible a human being...Only God is perpetual and not untill we reunite with him through the nuture of our soul will we experiance that perpetuality.
Look it doesn't happen over night and realising you have a soul is only one of the many steps to take but what it has done for me is taught me that every time I am sick...every time I am down, every time I am feeling the effects of my self imposed karma I should give thanks to God for I have worked it off and my sorrow is false sorrow...!!!
What it has also made me realise is that every time I am happy I should give thanks to God too because I am becoming more like him through my will to reunite with him...!!!
Love and light to you all....
Durrie.
Much of what you say is true and I think a common denominator to be taken away here is to do what makes you happy so long as it does in interfere or hinder others...that's fine...that's noble...but that is what I have always done...
I have always been fair...I have always been good and always been polite...so then I began to ask myself why do I deserve to have hardship, pain, grief, sorrow and all that in my life.?
If there indeed is a God what kind of God gives me these things as rewards to my fairness...why should I bother...—
God's gift to us through physical life is freedom of choice. We live here on a physical plane where we have five senses and the more we associate with those senses and try to gratify them through our choice the more we are bound by them to this physical plane.
This simple process I've described above is called karma.
My point by sharing with you my realisation of the "me" and "I" was to try and assure you all that we all DO have a soul. Our soul is not worldly...our soul transcends the physical realm of life and is hence much more important and powerful because that is in essence who we actually are and what we should aspire to grow as because that is our only way to progress in life...or rather "TRUE LIFE"...that is we grow our "TRUE SELF"...!!!
So all these things that I felt were improperly imposed on me by God and the cosmos were as I have recently discovered my own fault...for if there was no God they could have only been imposed on me by myself...!!!
I was and still am very physically run by my mind as I have a job...I have a car...I have my favorate chair and even my favorate pair of jeans...but why...—
Why do I have these things...it's simple...
Because they please "me"...they please Durrie and Durrie is imperfect, Durrie is human so Durrie's pleasure is false pleasure...!!!
it is not even 1/10 of the size of a drop in the ocean that is God's pleasure.
We all wish to be perpetually happy...we all wish to be perpetually at peace but how stupid are we to believe it is possible a human being...Only God is perpetual and not untill we reunite with him through the nuture of our soul will we experiance that perpetuality.
Look it doesn't happen over night and realising you have a soul is only one of the many steps to take but what it has done for me is taught me that every time I am sick...every time I am down, every time I am feeling the effects of my self imposed karma I should give thanks to God for I have worked it off and my sorrow is false sorrow...!!!
What it has also made me realise is that every time I am happy I should give thanks to God too because I am becoming more like him through my will to reunite with him...!!!
Love and light to you all....
Durrie.
Yes, Durrie, but, in order to be able to show anyone LOVE and bring them to the LIGHT, we must mix with mortals!
"Look it doesn't happen over night and realising you have a soul is only one of the many steps to take but what it has done for me is taught me that every time I am sick...every time I am down, every time I am feeling the effects of my self imposed karma I should give thanks to God for I have worked it off and my sorrow is false sorrow...!!!"
Im getting really good at these quote things now! Good point. I feel the effects of my karma everytime. It is most timely that you posted this paragraph at this point in time. The main thing that is wrong with me is that the consequences of my actions have begun to unfold and its not going to be very pleasant, infact i sense this is only the beginning. I know Ive got no choice but to follow it because if i dont, it will still be there, accumulating in the background and getting larger and larger. The only way to go is to make sure your own backyard is clean and then you can be rest assured you have done nothing wrong. And i definately believe we have to work our karma off. Ive done it before and i am doing it right now.
Have a good one,
libragirl.
Im getting really good at these quote things now! Good point. I feel the effects of my karma everytime. It is most timely that you posted this paragraph at this point in time. The main thing that is wrong with me is that the consequences of my actions have begun to unfold and its not going to be very pleasant, infact i sense this is only the beginning. I know Ive got no choice but to follow it because if i dont, it will still be there, accumulating in the background and getting larger and larger. The only way to go is to make sure your own backyard is clean and then you can be rest assured you have done nothing wrong. And i definately believe we have to work our karma off. Ive done it before and i am doing it right now.
Have a good one,
libragirl.
The above situation is called 'synchronicity'.
Yes...yes Libragirl...your realisation is truely a good one and I am happy for you.
On another board you speak of packing up and leaving your life behind by moving to another city as you have done before so you can start again...HAH!!!
I now hope you now realise how stupid a thought like that is, and yet how many times have you thought that and how many times and people have you met that have done it...did it help...did it change anything...—
This world we live in get's smaller by the day as we grow older as humans. Now take the awesome vastness of the universe and even if you could travel to other galaxy's within the universe you would still carry that karma with you.
Stay where you are because where you are is everywhere. Liberate yourself through God and his grace...and you will all of a sudden see just how beautiful your current situation is...there is no need for travel...what for—
Peace to you Libragirl you are realising...
Durrie.
On another board you speak of packing up and leaving your life behind by moving to another city as you have done before so you can start again...HAH!!!
I now hope you now realise how stupid a thought like that is, and yet how many times have you thought that and how many times and people have you met that have done it...did it help...did it change anything...—
This world we live in get's smaller by the day as we grow older as humans. Now take the awesome vastness of the universe and even if you could travel to other galaxy's within the universe you would still carry that karma with you.
Stay where you are because where you are is everywhere. Liberate yourself through God and his grace...and you will all of a sudden see just how beautiful your current situation is...there is no need for travel...what for—
Peace to you Libragirl you are realising...
Durrie.
Your_mother...a quick few questions to you...do you want to be happy and do you want to be at peace...—
If your answer to the above questions are no then don't worry about it...just go on as you are but...
If your answer to the above questions are yes....then why do you say what you said on page one of this thread...
You siad...
"Just do what you want. It is your life so live it! We can't be perfect we are not God"
You say you should just to do as you want...and if you said yes to wanting happiness and peace then why are you not happy or at peace...—
The answer is very simple...you don't know what you want because you don't know who you are...!!!
That is the biggest flore with humans...they see God as differant to them as a seperate entity...NOT SO!!!
It is not untill we realise that we are part of him that we can fufill our wants because those wants are his wants and he is perfect he can do anything...only he can grant peace and happiness...!!!
Durrie...
P.S Mom...please note that these are very simple obsevations to me but by me saying to you that you don't know who you are was never ment to be nasty...it's just an illustration of a point I made...
If your answer to the above questions are no then don't worry about it...just go on as you are but...
If your answer to the above questions are yes....then why do you say what you said on page one of this thread...
You siad...
"Just do what you want. It is your life so live it! We can't be perfect we are not God"
You say you should just to do as you want...and if you said yes to wanting happiness and peace then why are you not happy or at peace...—
The answer is very simple...you don't know what you want because you don't know who you are...!!!
That is the biggest flore with humans...they see God as differant to them as a seperate entity...NOT SO!!!
It is not untill we realise that we are part of him that we can fufill our wants because those wants are his wants and he is perfect he can do anything...only he can grant peace and happiness...!!!
Durrie...
P.S Mom...please note that these are very simple obsevations to me but by me saying to you that you don't know who you are was never ment to be nasty...it's just an illustration of a point I made...
"Your_mother...a quick few questions to you...do you want to be happy and do you want to be at peace...—"
Ok, there you are. Where have you been? I've been looking all over the place for you!!!!
Listen to me, son--I am HAPPY and I am at PEACE! I have good days and a few bad ones. I am an angel and a sinner, I am happy and sad; I am tired and restless; I am sick but I am healthy; I am free but I am bound, I am lost but I am hopeful. Want me to go on?? I am everything and nothing.
I love life and I love all that it entails. I wouldn't trade any of it not even the bad. It has made me ME! I am more comfortable in my skin as days go by. I have much more to live and love and learn and that won't stop until the I am dust to dust again.
In the mean time, I am gonna make God happy and make him laugh and love him and do my best and make mistakes and as you say "act like a child in an adults body living with all the experience of an adult!!" I think you said that. And one day I will look in his beautiful eyes and he and I will talk about some stuff, I hope! Either way I go, I don't want anything from God; I just love him! He loves us!
The same Fate comes to all of us.
This is from the bible it Ecclesiates or the 'Preacher'
he too was kind of a jerk, but I do like what he writes here.
Enjoy life with the wife whom you love,
all the days of your vain life which has
been given you under the sun, because that
is your portion in life and in your toil at which
you toil under the sun.
Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your
might; for there is no work or thought or knowledge or
wisdom in to which you are going.
I saw that under the sun the race is not to the swift,
nor the battle to the strong, nor the bread to the wise,
nor riches to the intelligent, nor favor to the men of skill;
but time and chance happens to them all.
Love ya,
Your Mother!
PS There is some deep stuff in this book!
Ok, there you are. Where have you been? I've been looking all over the place for you!!!!
Listen to me, son--I am HAPPY and I am at PEACE! I have good days and a few bad ones. I am an angel and a sinner, I am happy and sad; I am tired and restless; I am sick but I am healthy; I am free but I am bound, I am lost but I am hopeful. Want me to go on?? I am everything and nothing.
I love life and I love all that it entails. I wouldn't trade any of it not even the bad. It has made me ME! I am more comfortable in my skin as days go by. I have much more to live and love and learn and that won't stop until the I am dust to dust again.
In the mean time, I am gonna make God happy and make him laugh and love him and do my best and make mistakes and as you say "act like a child in an adults body living with all the experience of an adult!!" I think you said that. And one day I will look in his beautiful eyes and he and I will talk about some stuff, I hope! Either way I go, I don't want anything from God; I just love him! He loves us!
The same Fate comes to all of us.
This is from the bible it Ecclesiates or the 'Preacher'
he too was kind of a jerk, but I do like what he writes here.
Enjoy life with the wife whom you love,
all the days of your vain life which has
been given you under the sun, because that
is your portion in life and in your toil at which
you toil under the sun.
Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your
might; for there is no work or thought or knowledge or
wisdom in to which you are going.
I saw that under the sun the race is not to the swift,
nor the battle to the strong, nor the bread to the wise,
nor riches to the intelligent, nor favor to the men of skill;
but time and chance happens to them all.
Love ya,
Your Mother!
PS There is some deep stuff in this book!
lol i dont think its fair to tell someone what way or how to live their life. You're not them. And what 'god' are you talking about? What about the ppl who dont follow 'god'?
Hi Mom!
I think you are great just the way you are!! I probably shouldn't call you "Mom"...if you give me something else to call you, I would be happy to use it.
I know Luz just calls you Your Mother...LOL! (Not making fun of you Luz! I just think it is cute!)
You see, Mom, it is not easy figuring out what to call you...
(See how I can go on about nothing!!)
I got it! I can call you YM...what do you think?
Do you like it?
I think you are great just the way you are!! I probably shouldn't call you "Mom"...if you give me something else to call you, I would be happy to use it.
I know Luz just calls you Your Mother...LOL! (Not making fun of you Luz! I just think it is cute!)
You see, Mom, it is not easy figuring out what to call you...
(See how I can go on about nothing!!)
I got it! I can call you YM...what do you think?
Do you like it?
LOL!! HM HAH MU HAR HAR i know -_- I'll call her...UMMAAAAAAAA which means mom in korean
Who are you talking to Luz? Mom wasn't telling anyone to live a cetain way!LOL! She was telling Durrie she is doing her thing and doenst have it all figured out but it is ok!
The passage from the bible is old and it is just saying that we will all experience the same fate at the end of our time. You live ; You die! so, try and make something out of it, if you are lucky enough, then enjoy it!
Luz, why are you so defensive. So, what if she or I believe in God? How does that bother or interfere with your life? Are we bothering anyone, NO! Are you jealous maybe?
The passage from the bible is old and it is just saying that we will all experience the same fate at the end of our time. You live ; You die! so, try and make something out of it, if you are lucky enough, then enjoy it!
Luz, why are you so defensive. So, what if she or I believe in God? How does that bother or interfere with your life? Are we bothering anyone, NO! Are you jealous maybe?
uh suzy Q, i was just asking a simple question
Uma is very cute! LOL I love it! I like mom too! and I love 'Your Momma!' HAH!
and so why are you getting defensive now?
I am very cool! Like sliding off the chair here! mellow out, baby here is another ((((((hug)))))))))
*hugs* i guess this message board gets ppl confused =/ anyway, so what god are you talking about?? I was always interested in learning about religion but er..theres so many. lol, some of my friends tell me to come to church but im lil afraid because i'm afraid ppl are gonna be up in my face telling me how to live and how to be. That their way is always right. And i really dont need that. I'm very opened to learning new things but i dont need someone indirectly saying "LET GOD IN UR LIFE!!! YOU WILL BE SAVED!! OR YOU SHaLL BURN IN HELL!!" not saying that you do it, just some ppl i've seen do that and it makes me feel like i dont belong in heaven at all. Or i dont belong anywhere else. Do you think if you died right now, you'd automatically go to hell? We are all sinners so does that mean that we just go to hell or do we have to repent to god and know that we did wrong??
Luz,
I luz you!
What do you feel in your heart, is what you should do.
When you and I have a misunderstanding we make up, right away.
If you thought you hurt God wouldn't you do the same? There are lot of ways to hurt him.
But, you dont seem like that type to hurt anyone! So I wouldnt give it alot of thought. All you have to do is show your love, and have faith.
I dont go to church because he isnt there. He is were ever you are need him to be and church to me is everyday.
Religion is your personal relationship with God, and it is just that, personal.
Can't answer the last one. Just love him. He says if we do that we will be with him forever and have eteranl life! Just those two things and that is it. Believe in him and love one another. That covers everything!
Here is one more big ((((((((((hug)))))))))))))))) and I hope you have a relaxing and peaceful evening!!!!
SuzyQ
I luz you!
What do you feel in your heart, is what you should do.
When you and I have a misunderstanding we make up, right away.
If you thought you hurt God wouldn't you do the same? There are lot of ways to hurt him.
But, you dont seem like that type to hurt anyone! So I wouldnt give it alot of thought. All you have to do is show your love, and have faith.
I dont go to church because he isnt there. He is were ever you are need him to be and church to me is everyday.
Religion is your personal relationship with God, and it is just that, personal.
Can't answer the last one. Just love him. He says if we do that we will be with him forever and have eteranl life! Just those two things and that is it. Believe in him and love one another. That covers everything!
Here is one more big ((((((((((hug)))))))))))))))) and I hope you have a relaxing and peaceful evening!!!!
SuzyQ
and the God I am refering to is Jesus Christ!
Good night!
Good night!
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For an entity to refer to itself as "me" and "I" suggests that there must be two differant entities in question...it's logical...think about it.
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