Cigarettes. They could give you cancer

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Been trying to quit but it's SO hard. I'm a victim to my own mind so each time I try to quit the non stop chatter begins..not the schizo kind of chatter lol..it's an unquiet mind in a distracting way & a puff shuts that up. And believe me the cancer thing is a known fact, it's just that there's this "it won't happen to me" mentality. I even look at pictures of cancer patients due to cigarette smoking & they do nothing to make me stop..they just gross me out.



One day *sigh*
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Posted by enfant_terrible
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I know people who have had lung cancer and never smoked in their life.


You can't be serious? I swear, smokers say the stupidest shit... always living in denial.

Hey, I know people who have died WITHOUT slitting their wrists too-- but the fact is, those who do slit their wrists will probably die as a result of that!

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And so do non smokers. Our excuse is that all the crap we inhale while smoking does damage to our bodies, alters the mind, etc..what's you all non smokers excuse for stupidity? Sniffing dirty, damp gym socks? You all say the dumbest shit too.
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Posted by enfant_terrible
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I know people who have had lung cancer and never smoked in their life.


You can't be serious? I swear, smokers say the stupidest shit... always living in denial.

Hey, I know people who have died WITHOUT slitting their wrists too-- but the fact is, those who do slit their wrists will probably die as a result of that!

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Are you doubting the facts?

I'm not denying cigarettes don't contain carcinogens, but there really are people who develop lung cancer without ever having smoked.

You think cigarettes are the ONLY cause of lung cancer? Ever consider pollution, pesticides, household cleaners, car exhaust, smoke from a barbecue grill, heridity, etc? All those chemicals and vapors we breath in are toxic carcinogens as well.

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Non smokers make me smoke. LOL! Stress causing lot. I mean, why bitch about what smokers are doing to THEMSELVES..we don't share lungs! You have no standing ground unless someone is blowing smoke in your face, which you deserve for being a blabber mouth who cant keep his nicotine free nose out of other people business. Besides, why worry? We're all killing ourselves anyway with cigarettes..meaning you'll inherit the world. Let us smoke in peace until some of us finally decide to quit & join the "bitch crew" of preachy non smokers 😄

*blows ashtray smelling kisses*
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Non smokers make me smoke. LOL! Stress causing lot. I mean, why bitch about what smokers are doing to THEMSELVES..we don't share lungs! You have no standing ground unless someone is blowing smoke in your face, which you deserve for being a blabber mouth who cant keep his nicotine free nose out of other people business. Besides, why worry? We're all killing ourselves anyway with cigarettes..meaning you'll inherit the world. Let us smoke in peace until some of us finally decide to quit & join the "bitch crew" of preachy non smokers 😄

*blows ashtray smelling kisses*



+1 Trillion.
Lmao @ Bitch crew.
Got damn mother fuckin right....
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Cigarette makes you smart 😉 Don't tell me you didn't know about THAT!
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YOU ARE INHALING SMOKE DIRECTLY INTO YOUR LUNGS ,

... probably on an hour-to-hour basis, every day of your adult life. You canot seriousely compare THAT to pesticides, household cleaners, barbacue grills and car exhausters? It is NOT the same thing and you know it. Not all people who smoke get cancer, some of them get hit by busses too, but if they live long enough they ARE going to die of something related to having inhaled poison into their lungs all their lives! You can bet on that, unless they have some major genetic advantages over the average man. Take it from someone who's working in the medical profession.

Listen to yourselves, reasoning like a bunch of addicts, talking about the dangers of smoking as if they were just myths-- "there are people developing cancer without ever having smoked" - well, no shit Sherlock! We can also say that smokers die of other diseases that have nothing to do with their smoking habits... so what's your point?






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People are just so judgemental against smokers. We get tired of hearing it. Actually, it pretty much pisses us off. Makes me want to smoke more to prove a point. We know the risk. We'll quit when we get ready.

What about those who eat burgers and fried, fatty food everyday(heart disease)? The ones who drink daily and binge drink 3-4 times a week (cirrhosis)(and they're on here bragging about posting drunk - why not preach at them on the risks of cirrhosis)? Those who eat sweets like they're not going to make them anymore (diabetes)? The man who dips snuff every couple of hours (oral cancer)?

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Posted by lildol
BUT, as Tate indicated, oral sex can give you cancer too... best give that up Enfant!


As oppose to your vices, I am well aware of the dangers of sex and oral sex. I'm not living in denial like you guys seem to do, nor am I here to preach that you shouldn't smoke. I'm just asking you not to blow smoke up my ass just because you perfer to live in denial, grasping for every lame argument you can find to justify your smoking.

See it for what it is instead. An unhealthy habit that will gradually break down your body and your heart- and lung capacity. Cancer or no cancer, THAT you will not escape from!

Is that what you tell your kids? Have a drag, if you don't die of smoking you'll die of pollution or pesticides?

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All those people are stupid and selfish too.

Anyone who does this shit to themselves are morons and self centered. If you don't care about your own body, fine. But don't go having kids or getting into relationships either. Because when the shit hits the fan from your shitty habits, you're now dragging anyone you were close to through all of it as well.

Oh hay, little Johnny doesn't have a mom/dad anymore because they chose not to take care of themselves properly. Someone is a widow at an early age because the spouse couldn't get their shit together and start taking care of themselves.

Nobody ever really thinks of the long term affects.

But then again, addicts are selfish fucks, so eh.
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Apparently not if you think that point is invalid.

If people want to treat their bodies like shit by eating like shit, smoking, or abusing drugs, fine. But don't go whining on your premature death bed that you wish you'd done better because now your friends and family are suffering as well.

Down the road, a lot of people regret being so stupid in regard to these things.

"OH I'M TOTALLY AWARE OF THESE RISKS AND PEOPLE NEED TO STFU" as they hold their 5 year old.

Seriously? I'm sorry, but it's pretty fricken selfish. "I know the risks, but I don't care. It's all about me and my wants."
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Posted by PotHeadVirgo24

Their is nothing invalid about your point as you are saying what every other non smoker has pointed out already.

Smoking is bad(especially if you have kids) and can kill you. We get it, but like any other addiction, you won't quit tomorrow. It's a process that can't be sped up just by reinforcing truth repeatedly.



I know this. I'm actually one who doesn't do that stupid preachy shit, tbh. I have a group of friends that smoke. I know they're aware of the risks and all that shit. They know it's bad and have tried to stop here and there. Saying anything would be redundant.

I only pointed this bit out because people don't seem to think that far in advance- not just smoking, but overall health.

But hey, if people attempt to stop such bad habits, props to them. It's why I don't say all that much to people who do this shit. At least they've tried at some point or another. It's the ones who refuse who are total assholes.
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Posted by PotHeadVirgo24
Smoking is bad(especially if you have kids) and can kill you. We get it, but like any other addiction, you won't quit tomorrow. It's a process that can't be sped up just by reinforcing truth repeatedly.


So why keep making up lame excuses to justify your smoking? YOU DON'T HAVE TO JUSTIFY IT, you know it's stupid and pointless like any addiction, and the best part is it's perfectly legal. So just say FUCK YOU, I'M A SMOKER BECAUSE IT'S MY CHOICE. No further explenation needed. 🙂

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Posted by truecap
People are just so judgemental against smokers. We get tired of hearing it. Actually, it pretty much pisses us off. Makes me want to smoke more to prove a point. We know the risk. We'll quit when we get ready.

What about those who eat burgers and fried, fatty food everyday(heart disease)? The ones who drink daily and binge drink 3-4 times a week (cirrhosis)(and they're on here bragging about posting drunk - why not preach at them on the risks of cirrhosis)? Those who eat sweets like they're not going to make them anymore (diabetes)? The man who dips snuff every couple of hours (oral cancer)?



Absolutely..... It's all directly linked to bad health, just like smoking!!! And what's the point you're trying to prove by "smoking even more" when having your smoking habits questioned? That you can kill yourself even faster? LMAO!

Oh, you puffers. And btw I wasn't being judgemental at all. It's not about smoking per se, it's about the shit you say to justify something that doesn't even need justification. Puff away, just don't feed me bullshit about how harmless it is, or that there are other things that are bad for your health as well...



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Posted by rockyroadicecream
Posted by PotHeadVirgo24

Their is nothing invalid about your point as you are saying what every other non smoker has pointed out already.

Smoking is bad(especially if you have kids) and can kill you. We get it, but like any other addiction, you won't quit tomorrow. It's a process that can't be sped up just by reinforcing truth repeatedly.



I know this. I'm actually one who doesn't do that stupid preachy shit, tbh. I have a group of friends that smoke. I know they're aware of the risks and all that shit. They know it's bad and have tried to stop here and there. Saying anything would be redundant.

I only pointed this bit out because people don't seem to think that far in advance- not just smoking, but overall health.

But hey, if people attempt to stop such bad habits, props to them. It's why I don't say all that much to people who do this shit. At least they've tried at some point or another. It's the ones who refuse who are total assholes.
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You're passing judgment believing that those here, no matter what stance they are taking, have never quit prior nor ever even tried to quit.
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One way or another, You're ALL going to die, anyway.
Pick your choice of instrument of death.
To blame this and ignore that, is like the Pot calling the Kettle, "black".






Yup. We're all going to leave this place at some point..some will go with a bang & some will go up in smoke. Fact is, somebody's FAMILY is going to mourn. The family wont be putting blame on the dead person for why/how they died because its a known fact that we arent vampires..we dont live forever. Our families adore us whether we smoke or not & will not see us being sick as a burden, IF we get sick that is.
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One way or another, You're ALL going to die, anyway.
Pick your choice of instrument of death.
To blame this and ignore that, is like the Pot calling the Kettle, "black".






Yup. We're all going to leave this place at some point..some will go with a bang & some will go up in smoke. Fact is, somebody's FAMILY is going to mourn. The family wont be putting blame on the dead person for why/how they died because its a known fact that we arent vampires..we dont live forever. Our families adore us whether we smoke or not & will not see us being sick as a burden, IF we get sick that is.
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That's right.
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Lol @ "I'm gonna die because I choose to" As if death gives you a choice. If it were so, I'd choose to live forever.

This actually reminds me of a story I read a few years back..a vegetarian killed by meat. It was hilarious to me at the time. I don't remember if it was male or female, but this person decided to go for a walk & he/she was standing near some building about to cross the street when this huge chunk of cow meat fell down from the building above & to the top of his/her head. Smoking doesn't necessarily mean death, just as much as standing under a building doesn't mean you're going to die. If it's your time then it's your time, there's nothing you can do about that.
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Lol @ "I'm gonna die because I choose to" As if death gives you a choice. If it were so, I'd choose to live forever.



EXACTLY! Which is why you perfer the illusion of dying on your own terms because you won't make it out alive anyway!
(I like you WaterCup, but sometimes you have a hard time connecting the dots. 😉 )

And if you're all reallly that fatalistic about it, why don't you start shooting up heroin too, I mean we're all gonna die anyway, right?

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Lol @ "I'm gonna die because I choose to" As if death gives you a choice. If it were so, I'd choose to live forever.



EXACTLY! Which is why you perfer the illusion of dying on your own terms because you won't make it out alive anyway!
(I like you WaterCup, but sometimes you have a hard time connecting the dots. 😉 )

And if you're all reallly that fatalistic about it, why don't you start shooting up heroin too, I mean we're all gonna die anyway, right?

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Lol @ the dots comment. I'm sorry, but I dont think there's a single smoker out there that thinks about dying when they smoke, so it's NOT really a choice about death. I'd take an arsenic pill if I ever chose to die. Dying by cigarette sounds like a slow process that may or may never happen.

I honestly dont get what the fuss is all about..let us all smoke in peace & worry about your own bad habits that may cause YOU to get sick. We know the risks & it's very obvious that neither of us care anyway, so..
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Yeah, that "We're all going to die" excuse is a retarded one. Just like how they're annoyed with the idiots who decide that smokers suddenly don't know what the risks of smoking are. It's redundant and flawed reasoning.

Yes, we all die, but when you're doing something to speed it up- whatever it is, you just look like a moron rushing to get it over with.

I'd think a long and healthy life would trump a prematurely short and miserable one.

To each their own, and if people wanna fuck themselves up knowing the risks, fine. It just becomes selfish when it starts effecting others, and hearing the half assed excuses to justify smoking like "HUR WE DIE" is lol worthy.

But addicts can't really come up with real reasons of why they do what they do anyway. :/