Ferguson Riots Live Footage

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/cvplive/cvpstream2.html<BR>

Now what do you think these people are going to think when they wake up and realize they burned down their own grocery stores?

Got Milk?

I also heard many of the protesters are actually from different parts of the country.

Look at all that smoke and fire.
Damn they got Advanced Auto Parts.
I wonder if McDonald's is still standing?

So many businesses are gutted.
The fireman and other first responders will have a very long night.

Posted by Ixion120

Posted by LunarMaiden
Now what do you think these people are going to think when they wake up and realize they burned down their own grocery stores?

Got Milk?

I also heard many of the protesters are actually from different parts of the country.

Out of all the thousands of protesters out on the streets tonight, looting while wrong in a legal sense is really the least of our worries as a nation. Looting is NOT unpar with the taking of someone's life.

Or as this one blogger recently put up in this article: http://www.blackgirldangerous.org/2014/08/things-stop-distracted-black-person-gets-murdered-police/<BR>
"Property is not a life. In this country, police protect property while killing human beings. Sometimes they, as well as civilians, kill human beings in order to protect property. That's wrong. That's savagery.

Whatever you think of looting, though, remember this: it's not the issue, either. The issue is yet another unarmed Black teenager murdered by cops. His name was Mike Brown."

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So you don't think destroying your own community will have long term repercussions?
I lived on the south side of Chicago. Many parts of those communities were still suffering from riots that happened in the '60's. I'm not saying that property is more important than human life and I understand that they are sending a message.

But destroying someone's livelihood is another tragedy.
If someone tried to destroy my home and business I will shoot to kill.

I think Florida was smarter with how they handled the Travon Martin situation.
I think they knew Zimmerman would walk but they also knew that if there was a not a trial their city would burn and probably loss of life.

Something is off, the fire for the Advanced Auto Parts was going out, why is it a raging fire right now?
Are they pouring gasoline into that building?

Posted by Ixion120
"The real looting is legal looting. People don't have their fair share of police jobs, fire jobs, accounting work, legal work. That's looting. The looting by night — should not take place, but neither should the accepted level of legal looting. And that must stop."

and a trial is just a minimum...the entire justice system is beyond suspect in truth...black america and brown america are aware of this acutely... there is much need for progressive change and that starts by not sidelining nor reducing the magnitude of the issue which caused the looting in the first place.

I think you misunderstand. Let me be more clear. I am your neighbor, serving your community. Why loot your own neighborhood? When it sends more of a message to hit wall street or the downtown St. Louis?

Ahhh the fire and smoke, such a sight. Well maybe it'll get a point across not to let the bastard walk

I laughed my ass off when Obama got on to make a statement and both Fox and CNN did the split screen of shit hitting the fan on one side and Obama talking out of his ass on the other.
Priceless...

If people want to protest like animals that's their choice. When it's all said and done, it DID NOTHING for what they ultimately did nothing for the family of the boy killed in self defense.

When the evidence is out they might realize that. I'm guessing no. But hey destroying innocent business owners stores, stealing phones, electronics and booze from a liquor store might make them feel better eh? Animals.

One other thing. Every state has laws. Look them up before you move to one.

You break the law, (and in this case the state of missouri) you knock a store owner over twice while robbing her, you punch the cop whose coming after you after assaulting a woman and robbing her, walk away and then go back after the cop...YOU'RE GONNA GET SHOT. Don't like the laws of Missouri? Move!

Don't like the laws in this country?...LEAVE!

*ultimately wanted to protest

Well now that I'm feeling better, I don't exactly see the rioting as justified. Though it is kinda fun to watch cops cars burn. But the way I see it they won't do no double jeopardy to get a re-trial and put him in prison. Rioting doesn't exactly solve anything but it does help show how pissed off people are at something that justice should've been done for. Compared to the L.A riots in 1992, this feels a bit more bigger than that and people everywhere in the country seem pissed.

Posted by xy
I'd shoot my opponents before I consider setting my team on fire.

So how tightly knitted is the community really?

Should there ever be a civil war started, God forbid, that answer will reveal itself quickly. In a scenario like that just about everyone is going to have to pick a side.

Does one want to side with violence & mayhem that changes nothing but gets you killed, or does one want to side with law, order & peace? Doesn't matter what color you are either, everyone has a choice. That's what it comes down to.

All one has to do is pick one.

Posted by Sn1p3r187
Well now that I'm feeling better, I don't exactly see the rioting as justified. Though it is kinda fun to watch cops cars burn. But the way I see it they won't do no double jeopardy to get a re-trial and put him in prison. Rioting doesn't exactly solve anything but it does help show how pissed off people are at something that justice should've been done for. Compared to the L.A riots in 1992, this feels a bit more bigger than that and people everywhere in the country seem pissed.

There are no laws in this country that say YOU CANNOT BE PISSED.

Violence is a completely different matter.

Posted by LetltB

Posted by Sn1p3r187
Well now that I'm feeling better, I don't exactly see the rioting as justified. Though it is kinda fun to watch cops cars burn. But the way I see it they won't do no double jeopardy to get a re-trial and put him in prison. Rioting doesn't exactly solve anything but it does help show how pissed off people are at something that justice should've been done for. Compared to the L.A riots in 1992, this feels a bit more bigger than that and people everywhere in the country seem pissed.

There are no laws in this country that say YOU CANNOT BE PISSED.

Violence is a completely different matter.

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Sometimes words aren't enough to get the point across. Not justifying what's going on in anyway but I wouldn't blame the protesters for going off and rioting, a decision like this could easily piss anyone off and send em off the deep end. Words are a nice way to resolve things but in the case of this it kinda failed them for the expected.

You're mistaken..I'm not arguing. I'm laying out the facts and reality.

You don't have to like what I've said or like the truth.

If I was dismissive, I wouldn't have stated what I did or said anything.

I choose not to dismiss the facts.

Posted by LetltB
You're mistaken..I'm not arguing. I'm laying out the facts and reality.

You don't have to like what I've said or like the truth.

If I was dismissive, I wouldn't have stated what I did or said anything.

I choose not to dismiss the facts.

That^^ was in response to Ixion120

^^Oh.

Posted by Sn1p3r187

Sometimes words aren't enough to get the point across. Not justifying what's going on in anyway but I wouldn't blame the protesters for going off and rioting, a decision like this could easily piss anyone off and send em off the deep end. Words are a nice way to resolve things but in the case of this it kinda failed them for the expected.

Again...^^^it is that kind of thinking that gets one nowhere. Last night & any other past violent riot was an example.

What did it do? NOTHING. This isn't about race, this about living in a country with laws and abiding by those laws. If the cause of violent riots is about a white police officer shooting a violent teen in self defense, then answer this...
Why aren't there riots when African Americans violently shoot each other in the streets with stray bullets killing innocent kids in their homes? Someone else brought that up not long ago, and I've yet to hear a response.

Posted by Ixion120
I see. So it doesn't bother you that you just used not one but two reasoning fallacies to make your point?

Show me the fallicy. I realize you are trying to get me to "argue"..

There is simply nothing to argue here. I'm sorry.

*fallacy

Another question...

If the police officer was black under the same circumstances, would there be violent rioting?

Posted by Ixion120

I will happily leave this here for your perusal on the subject: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/11/24/what-rudy-giuliani-gets-wrong-about-the-deaths-of-young-black-men/

Nah...I don't do the media thing. I did research Missouri Law though if you'd like to banter back and forth about that. It's reality. Media not so much. Sorry again.

Posted by LetltB

Posted by Sn1p3r187

Sometimes words aren't enough to get the point across. Not justifying what's going on in anyway but I wouldn't blame the protesters for going off and rioting, a decision like this could easily piss anyone off and send em off the deep end. Words are a nice way to resolve things but in the case of this it kinda failed them for the expected.

Again...^^^it is that kind of thinking that gets one nowhere. Last night & any other past violent riot was an example.

What did it do? NOTHING. This isn't about race, this about living in a country with laws and abiding by those laws. If the cause of violent riots is about a white police officer shooting a violent teen in self defense, then answer this...
Why aren't there riots when African Americans violently shoot each other in the streets with stray bullets killing innocent kids in their homes? Someone else brought that up not long ago, and I've yet to hear a response.

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Because those African Americans aren't police officers and they don't hold as much authority as those compared to police officers and those stray bullets kill someone's kids, anything can happen in a fight like that. Most of the times it's accidental but that doesn't justify their violence against each other. With a responsibility and power like that comes great expectations. And apparently he failed those expectations, while self defense is reasonable but he acted out of fear and overreacted and shot him dead. One shot would've been enough, hell just making the arrest after he was down would've been enough or even just using his nightstick.

Posted by Ixion120

Posted by LetltB
Another question...

If the police officer was black under the same circumstances, would there be violent rioting?

There would have at least been a trial **smirk** but seriously all asshole like tendencies aside probably still yes IF the system worked that way which we both know it does not the grand majority of the time.

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Now I think I see where the confusion is surrounding this. Do you understand what a Grand Jury trial hearing is? It is completely different from a Trial and used in most cases as to whether or not there will be a Jury Trial and if the person should be indicted by a charge.

So when you say "there would have at least been a trial" if the police officer in this case was black, you are mistaken. He too would be subjected FIRST to a Grand Jury, as this police officer did. Based off of a verdict from the jurors in a Grand Jury trial as to whether or not he is "indicatable". If the jury found the case/person indictable THEN he would go to a full Jury Trial and be judged.

This Grand Jury found the case and police officer to be not indictable. If they had found it to be indictable based off of the evidence (whether the policer officer was black or white)..he'd have to stand a different Jury trial for the indictment/charge chosen.

Posted by Sn1p3r187

Because those African Americans aren't police officers and they don't hold as much authority as those compared to police officers and those stray bullets kill someone's kids, anything can happen in a fight like that. Most of the times it's accidental but that doesn't justify their violence against each other.

With a responsibility and power like that comes great expectations. And apparently he failed those expectations, while self defense is reasonable but he acted out of fear and overreacted and shot him dead. One shot would've been enough, hell just making the arrest after he was down would've been enough or even just using his nightstick.

Read the evidence and the witnesses statements.

Done with this back and forth nonsense as to why violently rioting in a community and breaking the law is a good thing. I choose to go on with my day and know the laws are here to protect me.

Good day everyone.

My wish...

Posted by LetltB

Posted by Sn1p3r187

Because those African Americans aren't police officers and they don't hold as much authority as those compared to police officers and those stray bullets kill someone's kids, anything can happen in a fight like that. Most of the times it's accidental but that doesn't justify their violence against each other.

With a responsibility and power like that comes great expectations. And apparently he failed those expectations, while self defense is reasonable but he acted out of fear and overreacted and shot him dead. One shot would've been enough, hell just making the arrest after he was down would've been enough or even just using his nightstick.

Read the evidence and the witnesses statements.

Done with this back and forth nonsense as to why violently rioting in a community and breaking the law is a good thing. I choose to go on with my day and know the laws are here to protect me.

Good day everyone.

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No one ever said it was a good thing.

Posted by Ixion120
the fact that I am not surprised about the lack of an indictment is for me a problem.

....and I'm saying I understand that and you are allowed to feel that way.

Those who support violence and rioting is another. I'll never support that and I have a huge problem with it.

Good day..

Posted by Ixion120

As her username states, let it be Snipe... If she wanted to listen to another viewpoint she would, if she wanted to engage she would, maybe later? maybe not?

I would suggest (though you are more than free to do otherwise) I would save my energy for other battles.

I will never have another viewpoint on rioting and violence.

Sorry again, but glad you finally get it.

Great advice...save that energy.

Posted by Sn1p3r187

.... like this could easily piss anyone off and send em off the deep end.

So, by "anyone" you mean a certain race of person?

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by Sn1p3r187

.... like this could easily piss anyone off and send em off the deep end.

So, by "anyone" you mean a certain race of person?

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By anyone I mean anyone. Not just one race but those willing to see the injustice in what's been done.

Posted by Sn1p3r187

..... those willing to see the injustice in what's been done.

Oh, so you don't mean anyone, you mean specific people ... so, you're not saying that (anyone) has justification in going off the deep end because of easily being pissed of. Because if that is what you meant, then it would mean EVERY person, even a cop.

You actually meant, then, a certain group of people have a right to go off the deep end if pissed.

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by Sn1p3r187

..... those willing to see the injustice in what's been done.

Oh, so you don't mean anyone, you mean specific people ... so, you're not saying that (anyone) has justification in going off the deep end because of easily being pissed of. Because if that is what you meant, then it would mean EVERY person, even a cop.

You actually meant, then, a certain group of people have a right to go off the deep end if pissed.

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What do you think? If they're pissed off enough then they'll just run around throwing firebombs at buildings but if they have common sense and learn to stop their anger out on everyone around them then they'll just protest and get their voice heard through the protests but I don't think it'll help anything. I think they're stupid now for going out and rioting, but actions speak louder than words. Just saying.