BommyKnocker
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It's an extroverts world.
Introverts can't be the life of the party, even if they wanted to and that's the thing.
People only want to be friends with the life of the party and in that sense, introverts are always doomed. They can be friendly, social and charming, but never the life of the party. I think society celebrates the life of the party character and the next best thing, but never introverts.
People only want to be friends with the life of the party and in that sense, introverts are always doomed. They can be friendly, social and charming, but never the life of the party. I think society celebrates the life of the party character and the next best thing, but never introverts.
I disagree.
It does not matter if you are an extrovert or introvert. What matters is if you desire to attain something.
This world is a consumer's paradise. As long as you have something to reach for this world is yours to manipulate or guide to your liking, to destroy, rebuild, or expand.
What society does not care for are those who do not desire as much from this world. We drive them into corners with our righteous drive to achieve our goals—of which are often so materialistic—looking down upon them with our sneers of distaste or looks of concern, telling them in our own way that they have no place in this world.
We do not understand how they see in the world. Or, we do not want to. Because we know cannot keep up with everyone else and survive otherwise.
It does not matter if you are an extrovert or introvert. What matters is if you desire to attain something.
This world is a consumer's paradise. As long as you have something to reach for this world is yours to manipulate or guide to your liking, to destroy, rebuild, or expand.
What society does not care for are those who do not desire as much from this world. We drive them into corners with our righteous drive to achieve our goals—of which are often so materialistic—looking down upon them with our sneers of distaste or looks of concern, telling them in our own way that they have no place in this world.
We do not understand how they see in the world. Or, we do not want to. Because we know cannot keep up with everyone else and survive otherwise.
I know what you guys mean.
But I see it more as an introvert needs more energy to maintain inner harmony than an extrovert and that constant need of energy can translate to an energy demanding person or an energy draining person if that makes any sense.
I think society or just people in general avoid energy draining people, in favour of the "light and bright" character if that makes any sense.
It's kind of like what ninjafish said, an introvert can learn many of the skills required to have a successful and happy life, but they are not intuitive for an introvert. While for the extrovert, these skills are just downright intuitive and that makes a huge difference. It kind of means that an introvert's life is systematically more complicated and difficult than an introvert.
But I see it more as an introvert needs more energy to maintain inner harmony than an extrovert and that constant need of energy can translate to an energy demanding person or an energy draining person if that makes any sense.
I think society or just people in general avoid energy draining people, in favour of the "light and bright" character if that makes any sense.
It's kind of like what ninjafish said, an introvert can learn many of the skills required to have a successful and happy life, but they are not intuitive for an introvert. While for the extrovert, these skills are just downright intuitive and that makes a huge difference. It kind of means that an introvert's life is systematically more complicated and difficult than an introvert.
Posted by Ellybean
Extroverts feed off of energy typically. Not necessarily a bad thing. They are energized by being around people, their introspection is found by looking at others, talking with friends being involved with a larger dynamic. They enjoy group meetings because they can bounce ideas around and take the helm for the best one.
I agree with all of what you said, but this specifically was my point exactly. Introverts and extroverts have fundamentally different energies and different energy needs and in the hyper social society we live in these days, it gives extroverts an edge.
I don't think that sentence is contradictory to my stance.
She said the people in the best position are the introverts who learn how to radiate such extroverted energies and know when to apply them to their benefit.
I agree. Ellybean's sentence did not imply that ALL introverts are capable of doing that.
I'm not saying extroverts can't lean introverts skills, or introverts can't learn extroverts skills. What I am saying though is that in this day and age, introverts will find themselves having to learn and adjust much more than extroverts do in many social and even professional environment.
She said the people in the best position are the introverts who learn how to radiate such extroverted energies and know when to apply them to their benefit.
I agree. Ellybean's sentence did not imply that ALL introverts are capable of doing that.
I'm not saying extroverts can't lean introverts skills, or introverts can't learn extroverts skills. What I am saying though is that in this day and age, introverts will find themselves having to learn and adjust much more than extroverts do in many social and even professional environment.
I understood the same thing about point 1, so no questions there.
"2. If the Extrovert gains that success, the remains of which they leave their predecessor is almost nonexistant."
Did you say that because ellybean said "..because they can bounce ideas around and take the helm for the best one." ?
I don't understand your point 2, and not understanding is affecting my ability to give you a meaningful response to your question.
"2. If the Extrovert gains that success, the remains of which they leave their predecessor is almost nonexistant."
Did you say that because ellybean said "..because they can bounce ideas around and take the helm for the best one." ?
I don't understand your point 2, and not understanding is affecting my ability to give you a meaningful response to your question.
ah, thanks for that.
And to answer your question, personally I would like to build my own success and leave my success for the next generations to further build on.
And to answer your question, personally I would like to build my own success and leave my success for the next generations to further build on.
Why cant it go both ways?
If an introvert can learn the extrovert front... is it so impossible for the extrovert to develop the introvert strategy—
Bommy, I was actually thinking of this very topic last week and I agree.
Extroverts are more attainable to the masses and therefore that characteristic is ideal for b2b.
I see this everywhere. Complete knob heads hired because they are easily like-able. Nothing to do with expertise or background. Also the more social people are the ones getting ahead.
networking is also an important factor. extroverts are more naturally inclined to networking. good networking skills is invaluable to not just work, but even life in general.
of course anything can be learned, but i do agree that extroverts have it a tad easier.
and in my opinion... this isn't anything that is new. it's just exacerbated.
If an introvert can learn the extrovert front... is it so impossible for the extrovert to develop the introvert strategy—
Bommy, I was actually thinking of this very topic last week and I agree.
Extroverts are more attainable to the masses and therefore that characteristic is ideal for b2b.
I see this everywhere. Complete knob heads hired because they are easily like-able. Nothing to do with expertise or background. Also the more social people are the ones getting ahead.
networking is also an important factor. extroverts are more naturally inclined to networking. good networking skills is invaluable to not just work, but even life in general.
of course anything can be learned, but i do agree that extroverts have it a tad easier.
and in my opinion... this isn't anything that is new. it's just exacerbated.
Posted by DazedScorpPosted by BommyKnocker
ah, thanks for that.
And to answer your question, personally I would like to build my own success and leave my success for the next generations to further build on.
*Looks at profile*
Oh... It's you.
Are you not an introvert? Or at least consider yourself to be?click to expand
I am an introvert.
Actually, I would love to break it down astrologically.
Who are the stereotypical introverts and extroverts ?
Key word is stereotypical, would love it if anyone can pin down the relavant placement.
I would love to say that Water/Earth signs are stereotypically introverted while Air/Fire signs are stereotypically extroverted.
But then checking my facebook profile, All the scorpio's , Pisces & Capricorns I know have 500+ friends, while all the Aqua's I know have much less than that.
I don't think its as simple as W/E = Introverts, A/F = Extroverts.
Who are the stereotypical introverts and extroverts ?
Key word is stereotypical, would love it if anyone can pin down the relavant placement.
I would love to say that Water/Earth signs are stereotypically introverted while Air/Fire signs are stereotypically extroverted.
But then checking my facebook profile, All the scorpio's , Pisces & Capricorns I know have 500+ friends, while all the Aqua's I know have much less than that.
I don't think its as simple as W/E = Introverts, A/F = Extroverts.
You're quiet around strangers.
I would say in my case
Close friends - Extrovert
People I don't know - Introvert
Coworkers that know me - Introvert
Boss - Introvert
Family - Introvert
Potential boss/employer - Extrovert
Customers - Extrovert
what the hell do you make out of that ?
I would say in my case
Close friends - Extrovert
People I don't know - Introvert
Coworkers that know me - Introvert
Boss - Introvert
Family - Introvert
Potential boss/employer - Extrovert
Customers - Extrovert
what the hell do you make out of that ?
^^^^
you get a lot of work done and your family annoys you 😛
you get a lot of work done and your family annoys you 😛
lol.
My family is a hyper extroverted family. I find them exhausting.
My family is a hyper extroverted family. I find them exhausting.
True.
You know, my first post wasn't about which is better, it was about how much of life is geared towards extroverts.
It like you said, you're an introvert when it comes to strangers you don't know, but what about your next girlfriend whom you haven't met ?
She will deal with introverted dazed initially, and introverted dazed will need to make a great first impression and if things develop, she will get to deal with both extroverted and introverted dazed. But the thing is, that first contact is a HUGE deal, and that's when extroverts have a slight advantage, they are always in "impressionable mode".
Do you see what I mean ?
When it comes to dating, when it comes to work, when it comes to socialising, it slightly sucks to be a natural introvert.
You know, my first post wasn't about which is better, it was about how much of life is geared towards extroverts.
It like you said, you're an introvert when it comes to strangers you don't know, but what about your next girlfriend whom you haven't met ?
She will deal with introverted dazed initially, and introverted dazed will need to make a great first impression and if things develop, she will get to deal with both extroverted and introverted dazed. But the thing is, that first contact is a HUGE deal, and that's when extroverts have a slight advantage, they are always in "impressionable mode".
Do you see what I mean ?
When it comes to dating, when it comes to work, when it comes to socialising, it slightly sucks to be a natural introvert.
Lol, good to know.
Well said, thanks.
Agreed
Although, some people can be both. Some people can become extroverted when they need to be. I have learned to develop and exercise my "extrovertedness" as of late.
Although, some people can be both. Some people can become extroverted when they need to be. I have learned to develop and exercise my "extrovertedness" as of late.
Pretty good videos for introverts feeling down about being an introvert..
Posted by BommyKnocker
Agree or disagree ?
I for one agree. I think society doesn't like introverts and extroverts have a high probability of living a happier more satisfying life, in this day and age.
I think of it as extroverts in society of sheep who follow one another like this:
...while the introverts sit back, very happy to watch because they know better😉
Posted by BommyKnocker
Introverts and extroverts have fundamentally different energies and different energy needs and in the hyper social society we live in these days, it gives extroverts an edge.
...exactly
The best part about being an introvert, is knowing when to behave like an extrovert to throw people off. It's intuitive, it's so damn easy, and it goes unnoticed because everyone in the extrovert group are too busy following the extrovert in front of them.
Extroverts are extremely predictable. I don't find that exciting at all.
Give me an introvert with silent power..I prefer a challenge. 😉
Extroverts are extremely predictable. I don't find that exciting at all.
Give me an introvert with silent power..I prefer a challenge. 😉
Posted by BommyKnocker
Introverts can't be the life of the party, even if they wanted to and that's the thing.
People only want to be friends with the life of the party and in that sense, introverts are always doomed. They can be friendly, social and charming, but never the life of the party. I think society celebrates the life of the party character and the next best thing, but never introverts.
being a introvert or appearing to be one has always helped me make friends..making friends has always been easy for me.
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I for one agree. I think society doesn't like introverts and extroverts have a high probability of living a happier more satisfying life, in this day and age.
Two things shaped my opinion:
1. I was talking to a senior at a public practice firm and they are in the process of recruiting a graduate into the firm. He said that the worst candidate isn't the one who's unqualified for the role, but the worst candidate is an introverted candidate. He then went to explain that in public practice, you can't get away about being an introvert. I thought about it and couldn't see how public practice is anything different from any other profession. You meet many people, you have to social with clients and colleagues and professional at all times. That sounds just like any profession out there. People just don't like introverts.
2. I was watching a pbs documentary called "America in primetime" (highly recommended) and they had part of the documentary dedicated to "Misfits". They went on to detail how people love characters who are oblivious of their inadequacies within society and that's in the DNA of every great character in a TV Show in the past two decades. Being oblivious to oneself doesn't sound to me as a thing an introspective person would do. If anything, they are highly aware of their inadequacies and that pushes them deeper into introspection.
No matter how I look at it, I see the world as an extroverts paradise. If you even think about social networks, they are inherently valuable to extroverts and are possibly no value to introverts. I see the success of social networks as the ultimate proof that their many extroverts and both successful/happy life and technological innovations are both geared towards extroverts.
Even in dating. Its too obvious.
what's your opinion about it ?
Agree or disagree ?