Lying

This topic was created in the Miscellaneous forum by Gwendylyn Post on Wednesday, February 5, 2003 and has 43 replies.

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@Gwendylyn Post
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Do you lie? Never? Really? Haven't you ever been tempted to? No?! You must really be a saint... That's hard to believe... not even once?? What about by mistake? Yes, it's possible. No... I am not lying. I never lie. Truthfully. No, I've never been tempted. Don't take that attitude with me! No, not even once... Is that even possible? Are you lying to me right now?! LIAR!

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@soshy60
21 Years

I NEVER lie to my loved ones or my friends. I have lied before, I dont anymore. If I feel the need to keep people at a distance, I wont lie but I wont volunteer any information. If they ask I would tell them the truth. I always get caught and I am not good at it. It eats away at me badly!

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@Gwendylyn Post
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Sonnet

Oh my sweetly silent love of my life,
How I do trust every word from your lips
And ne'er before let my trust turn to strife
Never have my heartbeats felt any skips.
But now doubt doth plague my inner being
As thou hath proved thy own unwholesome lie.
I cannot believe what I am thinking,
"Away, away let these doubts from me fly!"
I can no longer pretend thou speak truth.
Defense against me is to no avail.
All your words now demand my reproof.
Your dark secrets will be to me unveiled
But how can I be the judge and jury
When 'tis I who lied and deserve thy fury.

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@phoenix_rising
21 Years5,000+ Posts

LOL, excellent, Gwendylyn--love this thread.

So, here's a direct question: is soshy60 Suzy-Q? How about Susan? Your profile says, "been here; done this". You also said you've lied in the past. But if asked a direct question, you'll tell the truth. We shall see...

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Epic (very short one)

A lone knight, gilded in silver plates,
Walks into the hall of kings of the nation-states
His brazen and brawn doth show his bravery
As he looks at the nobles in all their depravery.
"You have sinned against your people" he declared
They all just stopped, looked, and stared.
"No longer will we stand for your lies"
A king, "He who speaks next of treason dies!"
Mercenaries protecting the nobility
Knew they were no match to the knight in ability
But many numbers they did have
"Attack" the many nobles did call
But as the battle fought on, the knight did not fall.
When at last the armed were dead or maimed
He headed toward the king of king, the famed
Who had lied most without any shame
(Especially if it were to impress a dame.)
"Take back what you said, tell all of them
The truth" he spake, coughing up some flem.
"Fine" the king of kings replied
"I may not have been completely truthful" he implied.
The rest exchanged looks, shocked with pain
As if knives driven through their hearts and were slain.
"Impossible" cried one. "No" cried another
"We treated you like our noble brother"
A mutiny arose among the noble rank
After they were done with him the room stank.
And so slaughter and death were spoken of
And of a hero who among the rest rose above
An epic's requirements fulfilled though I did distort
And make this poem a wee bit too short.

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@Gwendylyn Post
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pheonix... soshy is Suzy no doubt about it. I have proof(ish). Libragirl or star or someone mentioned "suzy q" and soshy replied she wanted to hear about "Suzy-Q"... how likely is it that she got it perfect?

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@phoenix_rising
21 Years5,000+ Posts

ROFLMAO

I knew it. Now, she called some other people losers...isn't that funny? Who's the real loser? LOL, god, if you're gonna lie, at least plan it out better "Soshy"

hahahhahahahaha

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@Gwendylyn Post
21 Years1,000+ PostsPisces

Free style

I love doing poe(try)
on de(man)d,
it is so ful(fill)ing.
Maybe I'll do a (sex)tet
n(ex)t, or (evenin')
a (ball)ad.
Nah, i'll do one (width) odd (meet)(her)
Sub(limb)(in)(all)
(mess)(age)s are hi(lair)ious
Or maybe it's j(us)t me.
Oh and I g(ought)ta say something about
L(eyes)
Just to m(ache) it (fit)

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@Gwendylyn Post
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Free style

I love doing poe(try)
on de(man)d,
it is so ful(fill)ing.
Maybe I'll do a (sex)tet
n(ex)t, or (evenin')
a (ball)ad.
Nah, i'll do one (width) odd (meet)(her)
Sub(limb)(in)(all)
(mess)(age)s are hi(lair)ious
Or maybe it's j(us)t me.
Oh and I g(ought)ta say something about
L(eyes)
Just to m(ache) it (fit)

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@Gwendylyn Post
21 Years1,000+ PostsPisces

Ode to the Lie

Oh liar liar,
If your pants are on fire
Let me bring you some water
To dump on your head.

I love the way you make me question
Make me wonder
Just like a detective movie
Or Dragnet.

You bring to my senses
Out of the claustrophobia
And naivety
Of belief

Blinded by love
You give me sight
To see my lover
As a weasel, scoundrel, or a MDPL
(Mentally Disturbed Pathological Liar).

Any pain you give me, my lie,
I rejoice in
For I, like many others,
Delight in suffering and bile.

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Parody

The night before Christmas and all through the site
People were cheerful and happy without a fight.
But suddenly Santa come on to post,
"My list, my list of naughty and nice has been lost!"
Oh no, Oh, no cried the cyberfreaks,
the webmaster, the hoster, and the internet geeks.
"Not all is in vain," said Santa with cheer
"All of you who tell the truth still gets a beer"
And each person came with their ID's and legal age
And he gave each of them a Budweiser with a breathalizer gauge.
But the last came to him with a crooked smile
"No Santa, I am not the least in denial.
I have been nice. I always tell the truth.
I'll prove it- My name is not Ruth"
"I believe you little lad but first tell me
What age you are because you look like three?"
"I'm 21" he replied, showing his fake ID
"So please Santa please, give some beer to me!"
And Santa consented giving him a glass with ice.
"But you know, now you are naughty, not nice
And no presents for you under the Christmas tree
Unless right now from this beer you flee"
And the little boy looked at him, his eyes bluish,
Said "That's ok Santa, I wouldn't anyway, I'm Jewish".

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@soshy60
21 Years

The question was do YOU lie? It wasnt does Soshy lie. Why dont you answer the question PR(i.e. flake), I already have.

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@soshy60
21 Years

Sloppy 69 Who is this?

I read on another thread where Libra Girl said Phoenix
Rising has no morals.

And the Phoenix called her something back and now she is calling her awesome?

Is this the same two people??

Could this be because Libra girl cant get a date(even a gay one) and Phoenix never turns one down?? Could be another match made in hell at DXP.

Kind of confusing?

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@Libragirl
21 Years500+ Posts

Yes, this is true, this happened between Phoenix and i but it all in the past. Phoenix has been kind enough to forgive my immaturities and put them all in the past. We had a run in but, unlike yourself, we can move on from that. I am grateful that she has 'taken me back', so to speak, with open arms. She is an awesome girl herself. No one is perfect but when you can see mostly good in someone, that is the inaugary for a friendship. You are awesome Phoenix πŸ˜‰

Now, as for the "i can't even get a gay date", bit, you are sadly mistaken. I have people lining up to take me out, believe it or not. I get interest from both sexes but mainly from women because i am gay and they know it.

Seeya suzi q and have a nice day πŸ˜‰

Libragirl.

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@soshy60
21 Years

and one other thing, that little guy CJ.7 , I thought the way Cwab made him even look even smaller was great, LOL! Oh! I've dated little guys before and they were ok, they only come up to your waste, but they liked to tell me how good my hair smelled. πŸ˜‰muahahah

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@Morganofmind
21 Years1,000+ Posts

Lying:

I lie when I need to.
I lie when people shouldn't know things.
I lie when I'm being manipulative.
I lie when people are in my face for answers I don't want to give away.
I DO NOT LIE IF IT WILL HURT SOMEONE!!!

I'm a good lier, and I think lying is a good tool to have. People who disagree are people who are bad at lying and bad at telling the difference between a lie and the truth.

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@soshy60
21 Years

Libra girl,

"I have people lining up to take me out, believe it or not. I get interest from both sexes but mainly from women because i am gay and they know it."

Well, they must like lesbians with noses that look like pinnochio !

LOL that took the title of the thread! LMAO!

Morgan,

To you,

I am not picking fights and am defending myself.

But I am pretty much done with it now.

And Morgan I am a very nice person until people want to treetrunk with me, ok?

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21 Years1,000+ Posts

well since u called me out sushi, your life must be so boring, all those beatings from the other girls when u were a kid, the dog biting u all the time and pissing on your shoes, wow, i can really see how that would make u hate people who didnt wet thier bed constantly, or who actually got asked to the prom. and now u have dwindled down to taking cheap shots in the dark at total strangers. u need to buy a playstation, so your fat lazy ass can work out the hostility u feel from not being able to get a piece of ass, well.....no, toys dont count either.

u just wish an attractive guy like me would put thier face in your crotch, hell u would probably cream over someone just acknowledging your presence on the face of the earth.

i have many opinions and in my opinion u are quite pathetic.

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21 Years1,000+ Posts

oh, yeah i almost forgot, that whole getting off on people hating u thing........i mean some people will do anything for attention. were u like abused as a child? or maybe...abandoned?

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@Star
21 Years1,000+ Posts

I admit it! I lie! Not as a rule...I mean I don't try to lie...
But, I do lie. This is as brutally honest as I can get!

Seriously, what do you say when a friend says, "Do you think I am fat?" Do you say, "Yes"...or do you say something like, "I think you look good! Oh sure you could maybe lose a pound or two, who couldn't...maybe we should start walking together and try to lose some weight together, what do you think?" Ok...maybe it isn't a lie as in a lie...but, don't you sometimes say stuff that is said in a way that won't hurt someones feelings? The things people call "white lies"...
I lied to my daughter just the other day. She asked me if I had ever taken a shower with my guy...I said "No" without missing a beat and then informed her that she shouldn't be asking me questions like that! She is 15 and maybe could handle the truth about my sex life...but, I don't think it appropriate to discuss it with her...
I will discuss sex with her...as long as it does not involve me! LOL!

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21 Years5,000+ Posts

right on cj7 πŸ™‚

Oh, I should have clarified, I think white lies are alright, especially in "do I look awful in this shirt" or "do you think I'm fat" questions come up. I have a hard time telling someone, "you look like crap" and other such things. I don't really see the point, unless they're a very close friend and they're about to go out on a date or go to a job interview or something crucial like that. Then, I would maybe say, "Let's find you something even more flattering than that"...or "I'm not very fond of that, but you'd look great in (whatever)". So, of course I tell white lies. But never big ones. Never do I make things up. Never do I invent alternate personalities...you get the picture. πŸ™‚

Libragirl, you have taken me back as much as I have taken you back, I'm sure. And I'm glad you've been generous enough to have done that. That's the test of true maturity and loyalty--when you can have an honest disagreement with someone but still, as you said, see them for who they really are and forgive it and move on. That is what friendship is all about. πŸ™‚ *hugs LG* πŸ˜›

P.S. Star, you handled that well with your daughter. I think even if she *thinks* she want to know the answer to that question, she probably would have regretted asking if you had told her. I'm saying that from a daughter's perspective. lol. Anyway, it was handled perfectly--and mothers are allowed to fib when necessary (just look at that whole santa/easter bunny/tooth fairy thing that makes childhood so magical) πŸ™‚

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(has anyone else noticed that soshy never said she wasn't suzy?)

Anyway, honestly I do lie but not as a habit or mental disorder. I do it when it will help everyone involved. Such as lying about what someone said about another person. I lie to help others and ease their troubles. But I never lie about something serious or something that will hurt someone else.

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@Lawgoddess
21 Years500+ Posts

I don't lie, can't really comprehend the reasoning behind it. Maybe for someones protection may be a valid excuse. Other than that, what's the point of lying. I find that everything comes out in the wash anyway so if you lie it will eventually be discovered.

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@Star
21 Years1,000+ Posts

You are right, Lawgoddess. Lying can catch up with a person and they can become very confused themselves regarding reality...
Serious lying doesn't make sense to me either...