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Since there isn't a name for the category ... they are the last 4 of each element.


Sag, Cap, Aqua, Pisces

the first four = are very insecure within their element
the second four = are very controlling
the last four = are very detached


So, the detached would make them stronger, in comparison to the other two ... considering they are more likely to not give a fuck
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Posted by P-Angel

Since there isn't a name for the category ... they are the last 4 of each element.


Sag, Cap, Aqua, Pisces

the first four = are very insecure within their element
the second four = are very controlling
the last four = are very detached


So, the detached would make them stronger, in comparison to the other two ... considering they are more likely to not give a fuck




called Transpersonal Signs
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Posted by P-Angel

Since there isn't a name for the category ... they are the last 4 of each element.


Sag, Cap, Aqua, Pisces

the first four = are very insecure within their element
the second four = are very controlling
the last four = are very detached


So, the detached would make them stronger, in comparison to the other two ... considering they are more likely to not give a fuck



This is interesting...
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I haven't finished reading this however, I thought it was interesting so far...

Orientation in Time and Space
The fourth and fifth categories, not so often used, are those of Orientation in time and space. These are Personal, Social, and Universal.

The Personal signs and the corresponding houses are Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, and houses one through four.
The Social signs and houses are Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, and houses five through eight.
The Universal or Transpersonal signs and houses are Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces, and houses nine through twelve.

The Personal signs and houses tend to be psychologically primitive and instinctual. They are me oriented. And they are ruled by the pleasure-pain mechanism. They are inclined to be somewhat simple and na??ve. In certain ways they can be childlike or childish. They may have blind spots, lacking the ability to have insight into their own or other??s motivations. They tend to believe automatically that everyone is like they are, or, if not, they should be. They are pre-moral in the sense that they lack awareness of others as separate and different egos, or selves. In extreme cases, this is the sociopath who can do correct behavior because he has learned what is expected and acceptable through observation. But there is no conscience, no inner motivation to do the right thing simply because it is the right thing (as a Universal sign would), or because of the awareness a Social sign would have: that to do otherwise might hurt someone, even himself.

The Social signs and houses are aware of others and concerned with how to get along. They are very I-Thou motivated. Relationships in time and space are the focus of their attention. They are not so concerned with taking care of themselves as with interaction. They want to be liked. They need to feel that they belong and are a part of society. Social signs are moral. They desire to participate with others. Werner Erhard, with most of his planets in Social signs, Virgo, Libra and Scorpio (see chart), used to say that an event was not meaningful to a person unless he shared it with another. Those with strongly Personal or Universal orientations had difficulty even understanding what he could mean by that! Social signs want to conform and be validated by a significant other or the social group. They adjust themselves to the pressures placed upon them by society. They have a need to reach out, to accept and be accepted by pe
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The Universal or Transpersonal signs and houses are post-moral. Here, the perspective has widened and broadened to include me and you and everybody, everywhere, all the time. While Aries is me, here, now, Pisces might say not me, not here, not now, or me and everyone, everywhere, anytime. The Universal orientation relates to anyone or anything in the past, present or future. It believes in the principals of law, order, justice, and doing what is right because it is right. It is concerned with the highest ethics, not personal or social morality. For example, it is ethical to be conscientious abiding by the terms of a contract. The post-moral, Universal attitude does not care if you practice monogamy (total or serial), polygamy, polyandry, or are celibate. The point is to honor the truth of the contract whatever that may be.

The Universal consciousness understands the fundamental principles upon which morality is based and the necessity to act from that basis. The Social types often accuse the Universal types of being immoral. For example, Jesus (see the hypothetical chart in Leo article), acted strictly according to the principles underlying Jewish law, following the spirit and the intent of it. The moral priests chastised him for breaking the law. Their moral perspective was too narrow and too literal; they had lost sight of the true principles and purposes of the law. They were concerned primarily with social conformity, fitting in and belonging to the group. How often do we see that today!

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The Personal signs and houses tend to be psychologically primitive and instinctual. They are me oriented. And they are ruled by the pleasure-pain mechanism. They are inclined to be somewhat simple and na??ve. In certain ways they can be childlike or childish. They may have blind spots, lacking the ability to have insight into their own or other??s motivations. They tend to believe automatically that everyone is like they are, or, if not, they should be. They are pre-moral in the sense that they lack awareness of others as separate and different egos, or selves. In extreme cases, this is the sociopath who can do correct behavior because he has learned what is expected and acceptable through observation. But there is no conscience, no inner motivation to do the right thing simply because it is the right thing (as a Universal sign would), or because of the awareness a Social sign would have: that to do otherwise might hurt someone, even himself.




And would thus consider base instinct to be of higher mental faculty
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Mentally strong people

Can be ANYONE who have endured something extremely difficult each and everyone of us has not and survived. That being we can all share hard luck issues, but I always think if and when times get rough, there's always someone out there whose got it worse than me. I push on..and get stronger.

Astrologically speaking who can handle times like this above other signs and get through without losing their minds?

Taurus, Virgo, Caps
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Universally oriented consciousness does not act from instinct, or from a desire for social approval, but from a well-developed sense of principles of right action or dharma. The Universal does not go along with the crowd, for it is far beyond herd consciousness. They can relate to anyone, at any time, anywhere, who expresses universal truths. For example, a teenage girl with Venus conjunct Saturn in Aquarius in the twelfth house (a personal/social energy connected to a universal planet and house), spent one summer madly in love with the poet, George Gordon Lord Byron (January 22, 1788, 2:00 PM, London, England, 0W06, 51N31). Her —normal?? friends were either drooling over Elvis or their real live boyfriends.

Qualities that are rather abstract, such as universal and unconditional love are paramount here. Sagittarius and Capricorn are the archetypal Elders, the superego; and Aquarius and Pisces are the Beings, or the god-qualities of impartial love and universal compassion incarnate. The last signs are post-moral, post-modern, post-human. That is to say, they have the potential to go beyond individuated self-conscious altogether and achieve cosmic consciousness or a higher state of realization.

http://astrologyclub.org/articles/singletons/intro/singleton_intro.htm
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It's probably due to how your parents taught you accountability during the formative years.


1. it's someone elses fault
2. it's always your responsibility, consider you make your own choices

and

1. there are no losers, everybody wins = which creates a false sense of success because failure was never realized
2. you learn from the agony of defeat



People, irregardless of sun sign or any aspect, are going to live what they learn. At my age, since I've seen a lot of people live from birth to into their early 40's - I've seen people who now never take responsibility for anything, ones who hold themselves accountable for their entire life, and everywhere in between ...... and it can always be stemmed back to how their parents raised them to deal their life decisions.
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They avoid BS of any sort. They avoid drama. They don't wallow in self-pity. They press on even if it feels like the odds are against them. They are open to change. They're not people pleasers. They know themselves well so opinions of other people don't deter them and it doesn't affect them that much. They don't dwell on things they can't control and just accept it or find ways to circumvent it.



I like this. Are you describing Capricorns?
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Sure sounds like it. 😉
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I haven't finished reading this however, I thought it was interesting so far...





Maybe you should. 😢
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My posting was in regards to the concept of transpersonal consciousness among the signs and I find it interesting how the signs/placements are often categorized in terms of weakness vs strength. We often refer to one's placements to justify a behaviour when it is convenient, then the environment is added in case the sign or chart doesn't correspond to common knowledge or ascribed characteristics.

Followed by everyone is different when a behaviour doesn't fit any of the previous constructs. I guess it's just easy for most to accept what's already out there. (shrugs) 😢
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I came across this not too long ago and found it to be an interesting read:

15 Things That Emotionally Strong People Don't Do

1. They Don't Beg For Attention
Needing attention is directly linked to emotion. Those who feel the need for recognition only find themselves experiencing feelings of worth when others make them feel needed; it's as if these people are uncertain of their value, or if they have any ounce of self-worth. Feeling unsure of your worth is a self-fulfilling prophecy; if you don't know you matter, then no one will ever believe you do.

2. They Don't Allow Others To Bring Them Down
Emotional strength requires resilience. This world is filled with haters and trolls. There are jealous eyes lurking around every corner. The unfortunate truth is that often the people who hold us back the most are those closest to us. Getting rid of these people is often the best solution, but also the most difficult. If you can quietly remove these people from your life, that's one fewer bridge burned and much less of an emotional trigger.

3. They Don't Hold Grudges
If you??re holding a grudge, then you already care more about a situation than you should. If a person apologizes genuinely, forgive him or her. If this person doesn't apologize, then don't interact with him or her, but don't hold grudges. People with whom you seek to alienate and hold grudges against take up too much of your mental energy, doing more harm than good.

4. They Never Stop Doing Their Own Thing
Emotionally strong individuals do what they do because they love doing it. They don't plan on slowing down or stopping for anyone who deems their happiness inappropriate.

5. They Never Stop Believing In Themselves
Those who love themselves and understand themselves — those who aren't afraid or proud to be themselves — never doubt themselves. You amount to your own self-worth, not a shilling more.

6. They Don't Act Like Bitches Or Assh*les
People are mean. But we wonder, why? Being a jerk is only good as an intimidation factor, and if you??re trying to intimidate people, then you better be a negotiator by profession; if you??re intimidating just for the sake of it, you??re obviously overcompensating for a lack of confidence. Do you also drive a very large automobile, perhaps? I hear they make pills for that.
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7. They Know Better Than To Let Just Anyone Into Their Lives
The emotionally strong are emotionally strong for a reason: They don't expose themselves to people who break down their defenses and crush their morale. Most people in the world are lost and will be more than happy to take you along with them. Don't let an awful acquaintance ruin your happiness.

8. They Aren't Afraid To Love
If you??re afraid to love, you don't have enough confidence in yourself. You obviously think you can't be in a lasting relationship, but only in one that is doomed for disaster. You don't want to get hurt again because getting hurt really sucks. There is no reason for you to get your heart broken again because you are awesome. If things don't work out, it's not you. It's the two of you together. Unless, of course, you are an awful human being; in that case, it is you.

9. They Don't Lie In Bed Dreading The Day Ahead Of Them
The best part of your day should be the moment you wake up and realize you??re still alive. We take life for granted too regularly.

10. They??re Not Afraid Of Slowing Down
Emotionally strong people aren't in need of constant action and excitement. They don't need to run around all day and keep moving in order to avoid their demons. They appreciate a slow moment because it brings them closer to what it feels like to do nothing but living, breathing. This is not to say that they don't enjoy excitement in their lives, but they aren't junkies and are more than happy to just go for a walk and smell the roses.
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11. They Don't Do Things They Don't Want To Do
We all do things that we don't love to do, but we should never do things that we don't want to do. The emotionally strong understand that and almost always manage to figure out a way to focus on what they love, which allows them to figure out what they need to do, in order to do what they love. Although they may not love every second of it, they like doing what they are doing because it's bringing them one step closer to what they would love to do.

12. They Have No Problem Saying —No??
If you can't say —no,?? you will get abused. You??ll be considered a pushover and no one will ever ask you for your opinion or take it seriously when you give it. Saying —no?? reminds people that they don't have control over you.

13. They Don't —Forget?? To Give Back
We??re not too busy or too poor to donate our money and/or time. We don't forget, either. Some people just choose to ignore our responsibilities as human beings. The stronger you are emotionally, the more you come to appreciate others and life itself. You give life more worth and you begin to empathize with those who were dealt a bad hand.

14. They Don't Feel The Need To Fit In
The stronger you are emotionally, the more independent you become. You don't feel the need to fit in because you fit in where it matters: the world. People form smaller social groups that are often skewed and unhealthy. Wanting to fit in doesn't say much more than —I'm afraid to be myself.??

15. They Don't Forget That Happiness Is A Decision
Most importantly, the emotionally strong have learned to understand the power their brains have over both the mind and body. They understand that emotions are reactions, not reactions to direct physical causes, but to the way we perceive those causes. In other words, our emotions don't reflect reality; rather, our emotions reflect the way we interpret reality. Understanding this gives us near-full control of our emotions and, therefore, our lives.
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Posted by MissPirate
I came across this not too long ago and found it to be an interesting read:

15 Things That Emotionally Strong People Don't Do

1. They Don't Beg For Attention
Needing attention is directly linked to emotion. Those who feel the need for recognition only find themselves experiencing feelings of worth when others make them feel needed; it's as if these people are uncertain of their value, or if they have any ounce of self-worth. Feeling unsure of your worth is a self-fulfilling prophecy; if you don't know you matter, then no one will ever believe you do.

2. They Don't Allow Others To Bring Them Down
Emotional strength requires resilience. This world is filled with haters and trolls. There are jealous eyes lurking around every corner. The unfortunate truth is that often the people who hold us back the most are those closest to us. Getting rid of these people is often the best solution, but also the most difficult. If you can quietly remove these people from your life, that's one fewer bridge burned and much less of an emotional trigger.

3. They Don't Hold Grudges
If you??re holding a grudge, then you already care more about a situation than you should. If a person apologizes genuinely, forgive him or her. If this person doesn't apologize, then don't interact with him or her, but don't hold grudges. People with whom you seek to alienate and hold grudges against take up too much of your mental energy, doing more harm than good.

4. They Never Stop Doing Their Own Thing
Emotionally strong individuals do what they do because they love doing it. They don't plan on slowing down or stopping for anyone who deems their happiness inappropriate.

5. They Never Stop Believing In Themselves
Those who love themselves and understand themselves — those who aren't afraid or proud to be themselves — never doubt themselves. You amount to your own self-worth, not a shilling more.

6. They Don't Act Like Bitches Or Assh*les
People are mean. But we wonder, why? Being a jerk is only good as an intimidation factor, and if you??re trying to intimidate people, then you better be a negotiator by profession; if you??re intimidating just for the sake of it, you??re obviously overcompensating for a lack of confidence. Do you also drive a very large automobile, perhaps? I hear they make pills for that.


and this is emotionally
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I'm definitely a strong person mentally??_.Ive taken enough drugs to be able to compose myself and have had many drugged fucked conversations with people when others brains would probably implode LOL

I think I'm mentally strong in the way that no one or nothing gets to me I have been in so many embarrassing situations that it would kill an elephant 10 times over with embarrassment and coming from a guy who took himself very seriously as a kid I killed myself 10 times over and came back from it really strong??_.growing up I was never in a group of friends I always hung out with the smokers and the dregs and at first I hated being an outsider but I learnt that not belonging to a group had its advantages and eventually prided myself on being an individual..

I'm interested in every intellectual encounter and I really appreciate a good mind fuck and I always wear protection in the sense that its all just stupid??_.we're all on earth we all poo lol I always remind myself that and I laugh in my head when I'm having an intense conversation with someone.

??_.I have doubted myself in the past but its always been on the way I look but once I realised the more I exercised the better looking I got and the bigger I get "presence wise" it just not a problem lol..

I think in some ways I'm emotionally weak??_.I do crave attention I love to be observed I was always the "look at me kid" growing up doing backflips in the backyard or dancing in front of the television telling my mum and brothers "look at this"??_..I hate being ignored, if I'm ignored then its like I don't exist having said that I don't need too much attention just a ruptures applause.

I think ever since I got into acting in theatre theres a level of vulnerability you need to have??_the more people applaud you and say your great on stage the more you grow??_I need validation I never got it as a kid because my parents are the same as me lol.
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