U.S suicide rate at its highest in 25 years

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Why don't anybody want to speak on this subject?

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show a dramatic spike in suicides among middle-aged people, with the highest increases among men in their 50s, whose rate went up by nearly 50 percent to 30 per 100,000; and women in their early 60s, whose rate rose by nearly 60 percent (though it is still relatively low compared with men, at 7 in 100,000). The highest rates were among white and Native American and Alaskan men. In recent years, deaths by suicide has surpassed deaths by motor vehicle crashes.

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Im sure many of you dxper's are in this age range,why no speak on this?

This is shocking news for me, so much people hurting.

Too bad DC isn't bright orange.
Thus the rest of the US continues to suffer.

The rate of heroin overdose deaths has nearly tripled in just three years

The death rate from heroin overdoses in the United States nearly tripled between 2010 and 2013, and younger white males replaced middle-aged and older black men as the most common victims of the epidemic, the National Center for Health Statistics reported Wednesday.

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Why don't anybody want to speak on this subject?? 😢

I actually have experience with this. I take care of them. They are often titled 5150 or 5250...They also have a one to one nurse all day and night.. They often can stay from few days to months or years. Until the facility find a placement for them..

They actually Survived though, broke a few ligaments and bones, have cuts and scars on their wrists, or drug habit and no family can help. So when they come to us. It's temporarily but most likely not going home.


But a treatment place for this type of behavior that this person has done or doing currently. Sad really. I Often talk to them to find their story. Staying strong in this field helps alot. Sad.

Lots of people with mental problems..bipolar, manic, suicidal, safety, schizophrenia, and mentally challenged type of people(homeless)..

I've seen ages between 16-30, the oldest 50's-60... Yes I've actually sat with them all night..it's scary, crazy, and calm most nights..all shift. You never know when they have an episode or something snaps and you're protecting your self cause they just had a bad break. Often be so calm to escaping out the door, to using the bathroom trash liner to suffocate themselves..

Killing ones self vs killing other people....hmmm...

Which one will probably get more attention? Which is has bigger consequence?

People killing themselves at the highest rates in years deserves no attention huh?

but people who make up less than 15% of the countries pop deserves all the bad press yes?

Losing 44 billion annually due to suicide affects more than just the suicide victims does it not?

Homicide victims are mainly in poor, disenfranchised communities that are segregated from the rest of society, which means more than likely it wouldnt affect most of you..especially mongoloids from canada

Plus suicide numbers doubles homicide numbers, yet no one speaks of it..hmmm i wonder why

Guess it isnt any fun looking in the mirror and facing your own issues huh?

No this is truly sad. Thank you for bringing it up to our attention. I wonder how many of them own a dog?

Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
Too bad DC isn't bright orange.
Thus the rest of the US continues to suffer.

Lol! Ain't that the truth.

Posted by VirgoDragirl
No this is truly sad. Thank you for bringing it up to our attention. I wonder how many of them own a dog?

People are murdering themselves in record numbers and this is what you wonder?

People at that age dont want to be alone or broke. Theyve lived their life and they are done. Society celebrates youth, not old age and thus they feel worthless. Body starts to break down at that age. Makes perfect sense to me. However suicide takes guys, I mean its scary..the unknown. Hopefully they are right with God.

Suicide takes guts*

Honestly i think its gutless, weak, and extremely selfish to take your own life..

Granted, most of the people who do it have some form of mental disorder thou so it's understandable to that degree..

Posted by Arielle83
As if no one here has thought of suicide. That thought has never crossed your mind, ever??

Hello? We, the proud nation of DXP, are beyond mere mortals.

Posted by DAMEN VI
Honestly i think its gutless, weak, and extremely selfish to take your own life..

Granted, most of the people who do it have some form of mental disorder thou so it's understandable to that degree..

You men brave, fearless, and hollow. I think its funny when some equally fucked up human calls suicide weak. Go kill yourself. No? Why?? Because you fear death and your own mortality. To fearlessly laugh at death is a sign of strength, and insanity. Much braver then those who take as many lives as possible with them. To take lives other then your own is a sign of weakness. Weakness from fear.

We don't have proper care or coverage for mental health. If you look at insurance plans, mental health's coverage can be pretty piss poor.

We live in a society where depression and anything related is responded with "just don't be sad."

You combine a chauvinistic society with ignorance and self involvement, and a lot of issues like this will get overlooked.

If women have mental problems, they're shrugged off as being a "crazy bitch" with no sort of understanding.
If men have mental problems, they're told to man up and quit being a pussy.

It's not discussed because society as a whole is ignorant and has turned blinders to it.

I also think it doesn't help that you have the dipshits who won't shut up about other "fad" mental/behavioral issues in the media and people just end up turning a blind eye on the area all together because of these silly bitches screaming about things like Autism, ADD, or some other shit that's been played out. Not dismissing those disorders, but people eventually grow tired of hearing about these issues and tune out. Back in the 90s it was ADD, now it's Autism.

Another issue to factor in is that the people who do get diagnosed have to follow up on treatement and some won't. It's on the individual. My uncle had an adopted son who got caught up in drug use. They spent so much time and money in getting him sober and he just kept falling off the wagon. After 10+ years, and tens of thousands of dollars, they recently wrote him off. It's sad, but dude doesn't help himself and they're at their wits end. Addiction is a crappy thing to overcome.

Another might be coverage of those medications and treatment- can they afford it? If they have a health plan, does it cover it? Is there a financial cap on how much is covered each year?

One other thing that may be a problem in the younger crowd is that parents have sheltered the shit and coddled their children- raising them all entitled. They get out in the real world and that bubble is burst. Many cannot cope with harsh reality and get depressed and suicidal- combine that with all the lovely hormonal issues at the time and it's just a compounded problem.

It's a multi faceted issue and I don't think people know how to approach it or where to start, so they bury their heads in the sand.

Posted by Arielle83
As if no one here has thought of suicide. That thought has never crossed your mind, ever??

Never.

I have thought about killing other people thou...

luckily for me(and the victim of my imagined actions)my life is going pretty good for now so there will be no murders no time soon by me 🙂

Posted by AirMan
i'm pretty sure everyone has had suicidal thoughts at one point or another in their lives. even i myself done tried to commit suicide by overdosing taking prescription pills with alcoholic beverages and steroids but failed. all it made me did was sweat real hard and vomit. i have no form of mental disorder whatsoever. my suicidal issue stemmed from depression and loss of close loved ones (mostly my grandparents on my mom side).

Psst- depression is considered a mental health disorder/issue.

If it runs in your family, you're likely to suffer from it as well.

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Posted by DAMEN VI
Honestly i think its gutless, weak, and extremely selfish to take your own life..

Granted, most of the people who do it have some form of mental disorder thou so it's understandable to that degree..

You men brave, fearless, and hollow. I think its funny when some equally fucked up human calls suicide weak. Go kill yourself. No? Why?? Because you fear death and your own mortality. To fearlessly laugh at death is a sign of strength, and insanity. Much braver then those who take as many lives as possible with them. To take lives other then your own is a sign of weakness. Weakness from fear.

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you sound like a typical pussy that has tried to kill himself, but obviously bitched up

and im sure the majority of losers who commit suicide aren't laughing fearlessly at anything..they're more than like a big,sad, crying sack of shit before they blow their own brains out..

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Posted by Soul

Posted by DAMEN VI
Honestly i think its gutless, weak, and extremely selfish to take your own life..

Granted, most of the people who do it have some form of mental disorder thou so it's understandable to that degree..

You men brave, fearless, and hollow. I think its funny when some equally fucked up human calls suicide weak. Go kill yourself. No? Why?? Because you fear death and your own mortality. To fearlessly laugh at death is a sign of strength, and insanity. Much braver then those who take as many lives as possible with them. To take lives other then your own is a sign of weakness. Weakness from fear.

you sound like a typical pussy that has tried to kill himself, but obviously bitched up

and im sure the majority of losers who commit suicide aren't laughing fearlessly at anything..they're more than like a big,sad, crying sack of shit before they blow their own brains out..

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It's funny. You ask why this isn't being addressed and then you turn right around and SHOW exactly why it isn't being talked about.

Your attitude plus the shitty amount of apathy that our society has "not my problem, so I don't care" are why issues like this are hard to address and find a solution for.

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Posted by Soul

Posted by DAMEN VI
Honestly i think its gutless, weak, and extremely selfish to take your own life..

Granted, most of the people who do it have some form of mental disorder thou so it's understandable to that degree..

You men brave, fearless, and hollow. I think its funny when some equally fucked up human calls suicide weak. Go kill yourself. No? Why?? Because you fear death and your own mortality. To fearlessly laugh at death is a sign of strength, and insanity. Much braver then those who take as many lives as possible with them. To take lives other then your own is a sign of weakness. Weakness from fear.

you sound like a typical pussy that has tried to kill himself, but obviously bitched up

and im sure the majority of losers who commit suicide aren't laughing fearlessly at anything..they're more than like a big,sad, crying sack of shit before they blow their own brains out..

It's funny. You ask why this isn't being addressed and then you turn right around and SHOW exactly why it isn't being talked about.

Your attitude plus the shitty amount of apathy that our society has "not my problem, so I don't care" are why issues like this are hard to address and find a solution for.

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yet you guys can sit around all day on here and chat about other issues that in your heart you truly don't give a shit about...

thats the main reason why i even made this thread in the 1st place..

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Posted by AirMan
i'm pretty sure everyone has had suicidal thoughts at one point or another in their lives. even i myself done tried to commit suicide by overdosing taking prescription pills with alcoholic beverages and steroids but failed. all it made me did was sweat real hard and vomit. i have no form of mental disorder whatsoever. my suicidal issue stemmed from depression and loss of close loved ones (mostly my grandparents on my mom side).

Psst- depression is considered a mental health disorder/issue.

If it runs in your family, you're likely to suffer from it as well.

depression doesn't run in my family rockyroad. i the only one with it. going by astrology, i have suicidal placements. i'm the only one in the family born with a suicidal birth chart. with pluto in conjunction of ANY sign is suicidal enough. or ANY strong pluto placements for that matter. that pluto ain't no joke and is not to be taken for granite. think kurt cobain.

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lies

my moon is square pluto & my sun is inconjunct with pluto...and im far from suicidal

quit blaming the stars & moon for your hoe tendencies..maybe you was just raised by a woman only or you was fondled or abused by males in your youth

Posted by DAMEN VI


Guess it isnt any fun looking in the mirror and facing your own issues huh?

Thats what your whole point is and its all you can do. Deflect the issue that was brought up once again. Except now there is proof that police are not really the issue in black dominated communities. They are not the problem. Without them, criminals have started to take over. Cities become war zones. Chicago is another example. Your attitude is not unique and it is whats keeping the problem from really being acknowledged.

Whens the last time you heard of a city rotting from the inside out due to high suicides?? Lol come on now man...

Suicide is not a joke though. Ive been directly affected by it in my life. And let me tell you...someone committing suicide does have its impact. But you still have a life left to be impacted, vs being murdered for your fucking shoes or walking down the wrong block. Get the difference?

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Posted by VirgoDragirl
No this is truly sad. Thank you for bringing it up to our attention. I wonder how many of them own a dog?

People are murdering themselves in record numbers and this is what you wonder?

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Yep...obviously you're not born to think. 😄 Give it a thought or not...

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Posted by Soul

Posted by DAMEN VI
Honestly i think its gutless, weak, and extremely selfish to take your own life..

Granted, most of the people who do it have some form of mental disorder thou so it's understandable to that degree..

You men brave, fearless, and hollow. I think its funny when some equally fucked up human calls suicide weak. Go kill yourself. No? Why?? Because you fear death and your own mortality. To fearlessly laugh at death is a sign of strength, and insanity. Much braver then those who take as many lives as possible with them. To take lives other then your own is a sign of weakness. Weakness from fear.

you sound like a typical pussy that has tried to kill himself, but obviously bitched up

and im sure the majority of losers who commit suicide aren't laughing fearlessly at anything..they're more than like a big,sad, crying sack of shit before they blow their own brains out..

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Oh but I'm already dead. I enjoy living in a world full of pain and torment. This is my Hell, I was born and raised here. Death would sadly stop all that, so why would I want to leave?

I already know your type. You hate everything. All humans, all positivity. Its you reflecting how you truly feel about yourself inside. I can somewhat relate, but I take my problems out on myself because I let them happen myself. You take your problems out on the world because your pathetic, and cant face them any other way. You rather hurt others then admit your shit.

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Posted by AirMan
i'm pretty sure everyone has had suicidal thoughts at one point or another in their lives. even i myself done tried to commit suicide by overdosing taking prescription pills with alcoholic beverages and steroids but failed. all it made me did was sweat real hard and vomit. i have no form of mental disorder whatsoever. my suicidal issue stemmed from depression and loss of close loved ones (mostly my grandparents on my mom side).

Psst- depression is considered a mental health disorder/issue.

If it runs in your family, you're likely to suffer from it as well.

depression doesn't run in my family rockyroad. i the only one with it. going by astrology, i have suicidal placements. i'm the only one in the family born with a suicidal birth chart. with pluto in conjunction of ANY sign is suicidal enough. or ANY strong pluto placements for that matter. that pluto ain't no joke and is not to be taken for granite. think kurt cobain.

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I didn't say it did or suggest otherwise.

You seem to be avoiding the obvious- that you may suffer from depression. If you don't think you do, I was pointing out the link that it does run in families, so that link does exist if you don't think you'd have it.

Have you considered seeking help to make sure you don't have some sort of chemical/hormonal imbalance going on aside from the usual depression that comes with mourning a loss?

I started suffering from depression when my dad died. I also learned that it was triggered quite a bit by PMS, which I went on birth control for. Has helped quite a bit with the chronic side of it.

...my mom just died and I'm starting aaall over again, but at least the depression isn't as shitty as it was when my dad died. It's just bouts and "blues" as opposed to "I'm going to stay in bed all day and sleep all the time."

You need to find a logical solution. That whole "astrological" explanation won't help you, and you cannot go to any professional and expect to be taken seriously with that ridiculous explanation. There's more to it than astrology.

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thats the main reason why i even made this thread in the 1st place..

...And you turn right around and make yourself an example of why this is a problem. People like YOU are why others commit suicide. The lack of support, understanding, and sweeping the issue under the rug.

Your pseudo intellect isn't fooling anyone, dude.

Gold star for effort, honey.

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Posted by DAMEN VI


your hoe tendencies..maybe you was just raised by a woman only or you was fondled or abused by males in your youth

It's ridiculously inappropriate remarks like this that get in the way of any useful discussion.

Posted by DAMEN VI


Why don't anybody want to speak on this subject?? 😢

Several pages in, it's probably because no one can block you from your own thread.

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I only offered my opinion; it wasn't inappropriate..harsh? maybe, but blaming the way the planets were lined up as to why your suicidal is ignorant..

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Posted by DAMEN VI


Guess it isnt any fun looking in the mirror and facing your own issues huh?

Thats what your whole point is and its all you can do. Deflect the issue that was brought up once again. Except now there is proof that police are not really the issue in black dominated communities. They are not the problem. Without them, criminals have started to take over. Cities become war zones. Chicago is another example. Your attitude is not unique and it is whats keeping the problem from really being acknowledged.

Whens the last time you heard of a city rotting from the inside out due to high suicides?? Lol come on now man...

Suicide is not a joke though. Ive been directly affected by it in my life. And let me tell you...someone committing suicide does have its impact. But you still have a life left to be impacted, vs being murdered for your fucking shoes or walking down the wrong block. Get the difference?

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funny you mention Chicago because thats where im from and I just came back from riding through the south side and guess what? not a single bullet flew past me..unbelievable,right?


btw..our crime rate is at its lowest since the 60's..but of course you wouldn't know that because in typical sheep fashion, you see a few stories about people getting shot and think is a warzone all over the city

you also wouldn't know about about all the protest & demonstrations that are orchestrate by the people here to help quell the violence..

the city is in debt & the credit rating has plummeted to junk status, and this had nothing to do with the crime in the city, but yet again, you wouldn't know anything about that because your to busy focusing on the poor & disenfranchised people of the city,smh..

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Posted by DAMEN VI

Posted by Soul

Posted by DAMEN VI
Honestly i think its gutless, weak, and extremely selfish to take your own life..

Granted, most of the people who do it have some form of mental disorder thou so it's understandable to that degree..

You men brave, fearless, and hollow. I think its funny when some equally fucked up human calls suicide weak. Go kill yourself. No? Why?? Because you fear death and your own mortality. To fearlessly laugh at death is a sign of strength, and insanity. Much braver then those who take as many lives as possible with them. To take lives other then your own is a sign of weakness. Weakness from fear.

you sound like a typical pussy that has tried to kill himself, but obviously bitched up

and im sure the majority of losers who commit suicide aren't laughing fearlessly at anything..they're more than like a big,sad, crying sack of shit before they blow their own brains out..

Oh but I'm already dead. I enjoy living in a world full of pain and torment. This is my Hell, I was born and raised here. Death would sadly stop all that, so why would I want to leave?

I already know your type. You hate everything. All humans, all positivity. Its you reflecting how you truly feel about yourself inside. I can somewhat relate, but I take my problems out on myself because I let them happen myself. You take your problems out on the world because your pathetic, and cant face them any other way. You rather hurt others then admit your shit.

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did you study psychology??!, because if you did, then you really need to go back to school & take some more classes; you're horrible at evaluating people

i made this thread with the intent on getting some of you people to quit focusing on issues that don't affect you AT ALL & starting looking at issues that do..like suicide & heroin overdoses..

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Posted by DAMEN VI


thats the main reason why i even made this thread in the 1st place..

...And you turn right around and make yourself an example of why this is a problem. People like YOU are why others commit suicide. The lack of support, understanding, and sweeping the issue under the rug.

Your pseudo intellect isn't fooling anyone, dude.

Gold star for effort, honey.

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not true.

it seems as if some of the suicidal people simple cannot be saved, regardless of who they're around..

it was young, 20 something yr old white male that committed suicide who worked with me years ago..he was obsessed with a chick he was with & allegedly told her that if she left him he would kill himself..well, the day came when she told him it was over, while we were at work & she told him over the phone at that...So this loser actually went & fell down the stairs ON PURPOSE just so he could have a reason to leave work, went home, and hung himself in his mothers garage...the 1st thing i thought was "why did he feel the need to make an excuse to leave work to kill himself? lol,smh..the whole shit was so pathetic

he was an aries too btw

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Posted by DAMEN VI


your hoe tendencies..maybe you was just raised by a woman only or you was fondled or abused by males in your youth

It's ridiculously inappropriate remarks like this that get in the way of any useful discussion.

Posted by DAMEN VI


Why don't anybody want to speak on this subject?? 😢

Several pages in, it's probably because no one can block you from your own thread.

I only offered my opinion; it wasn't inappropriate..harsh? maybe, but blaming the way the planets were lined up as to why your suicidal is ignorant..

Offering your opinion doesn't mean anything.

It's irony writ large that the topic you chose to talk about — which assumes on your part an understanding of its sensitive nature — is something you used as a weapon with which to bludgeon others.

You had the choice to explain to him NORMALLY why you don't think the issue can be laid on astrology's doorstep. Nowhere were you required to use his struggle as an an opportunity to call him a "hoe" on account of it, nor to blame it on single motherhood, nor to suggest that he was "fondled or abused" by men.

Someone divulged intimate details like that (placing them in a position of vulnerability), which is to be expected in this thread that you chose to create, and you took advantage of it, instead of — at minimum — showing a little self-restraint.

Do you understand now?

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I choose to talk him that way because of who he is..he let his wife beat him & watch the kids while she went out and sat on dicks at nite...I can't talk to man respectfully who allows such things to take place

now do you understand that you annoying ass Canadian?

Posted by LillyBlossom
Depression is a mental illness. Why speak so cruelly of someone who suffered from it and eventually took his own life? Show some compassion, please. So many chemical imbalances going on that are out of the sufferer's control.

being depressed for certain things is understandable..but killing yourself over a break up is something i don't get & can't respect..its so weak & bitch made to me..

never in life could I ever fall for a broad who i know doesn't care for me as much as i care for her

Posted by AirMan
😆😆😆 what the hell kind of shit this is you spewing Damen. my wife never went out and sat on dick behind my back. and i never got beat up nor did she. i'd much rather get beat up by a woman anyway than not have a woman at all. and it's obvious you ain got no woman in your life making garbage can threads like this.

everybody knows who you are...carlos

Posted by KittenLaRouge
Suicide takes guts*

Noooo, it doesn't!

Posted by seraph

Posted by DAMEN VI

I choose to talk him that way because of who he is..he let his wife beat him & watch the kids while she went out and sat on dicks at nite..

now do you understand that you annoying ass Canadian?

I actually don't.

Because using personal details like that as an incentive to then use their candour about their depression against them, is a level of psychopathy that I'm not equipped to address.

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well im sure you can post about things in relation to the topic instead of coming in here with your holier than thou bs like your some sort of saint..Even thou i understand your from canada and have been sheltered most of your life and aren't accustomed to harsh realities, im sure you can speak on something like..idk, maybe you saw a moose run out into the street and it stood their like it wanted to get hit on purpose, or something..

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Posted by DAMEN VI

I choose to talk him that way because of who he is..he let his wife beat him & watch the kids while she went out and sat on dicks at nite..

now do you understand that you annoying ass Canadian?

I actually don't.

Because using personal details like that as an incentive to then use their candour about their depression against them, is a level of psychopathy that I'm not equipped to address.

well im sure you can post about things in relation to the topic instead of coming in here with your holier than thou bs like your some sort of saint..Even thou i understand your from canada and have been sheltered most of your life and aren't accustomed to harsh realities, im sure you can speak on something like..idk, maybe you saw a moose run out into the street and it stood their like it wanted to get hit on purpose, or something..

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Puahaha, you Americans need to travel more 🙂

I used to get really upset, hurt, angry when I would read people say such cruel things as some of you here have said about those who take their life. I've heard it all. He was weak, a pussy, a coward, selfish, probably went to hell etc.

I never really understood the point of saying things like that. You aren't hurting the person who killed themselves, they're dead. But you do hurt the people left behind because they still love their loved one & have seen the pain & suffering they went through before they took their lives. Why anyone would want to add to that pain with cruelty I'll never understand.

My father committed suicide in 2009. I was never angry with his choice. I understood why. I was terribly sad for him though that he suffered so much in this life & that he died alone. The reasons why people do it are complex & personal. You shouldn't put a label such as weakness on it. I encourage you to think about how your words effect all of these people who are left behind after a suicide. There are a lot of us.

Posted by RiverLee
I used to get really upset, hurt, angry when I would read people say such cruel things as some of you here have said about those who take their life. I've heard it all. He was weak, a pussy, a coward, selfish, probably went to hell etc.

I never really understood the point of saying things like that. You aren't hurting the person who killed themselves, they're dead. But you do hurt the people left behind because they still love their loved one & have seen the pain & suffering they went through before they took their lives. Why anyone would want to add to that pain with cruelty I'll never understand.

My father committed suicide in 2009. I was never angry with his choice. I understood why. I was terribly sad for him though that he suffered so much in this life & that he died alone. The reasons why people do it are complex & personal. You shouldn't put a label such as weakness on it. I encourage you to think about how your words effect all of these people who are left behind after a suicide. There are a lot of us.

Sorry to hear this. You weren't angry or disappointed?

Posted by Nightcap


There's a lot of moose in kay-bec *cough*

And skunks too

I'm not sure either Airman but I normally try to overlook the unhelpful stuff & just be grateful for the dialogue so hopefully I can help people to think & maybe educate a little.

That's another issue about suicide. The ones left behind, the survivors, they aren't encouraged to talk about their loved one or the circumstances surrounding their passing. There are still people who lie about the cause of death to avoid the stigma, judgement & shame. This is the only method of death where this is accepted & encouraged. If your mother dies of breast cancer there are several walks to honor her, but if your mother suffered with mental illness, a chronic disease, she is to be not spoken of. Sad really.

I also find it interesting how people are more accepting of medically assisted suicide if a person is terminal to end their suffering. Mental illness, which is a chemical embalance, is also a lifetime of suffering.

My father tried to commit suicide when I was very young. It didn't work out as he had planned, fortunately for all of us around who loved him.i was only 7 so yes, selfishly I wanted him and needed him. He wasn't the depressive type but he was having serious personal problems. Why he chose to leave us that day is hard for me to think of. He went on to live and only passed away years later of cancer. There he clung to life and wasn't quite ready to go. The irony of it all. I think when he was younger, he thought his personal problems were insurmountable and had given up. I think he was glad in the end to have had the chance to live longer.

I still miss him so much and I never got the courage to ask him how could he have left us back in the day.

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Posted by RiverLee
I used to get really upset, hurt, angry when I would read people say such cruel things as some of you here have said about those who take their life. I've heard it all. He was weak, a pussy, a coward, selfish, probably went to hell etc.

I never really understood the point of saying things like that. You aren't hurting the person who killed themselves, they're dead. But you do hurt the people left behind because they still love their loved one & have seen the pain & suffering they went through before they took their lives. Why anyone would want to add to that pain with cruelty I'll never understand.

My father committed suicide in 2009. I was never angry with his choice. I understood why. I was terribly sad for him though that he suffered so much in this life & that he died alone. The reasons why people do it are complex & personal. You shouldn't put a label such as weakness on it. I encourage you to think about how your words effect all of these people who are left behind after a suicide. There are a lot of us.

Sorry to hear this. You weren't angry or disappointed?

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No I wasn't angry or disappointed at all. But you have to understand that I watched my father struggle & suffer with mental illness for my whole life. Of course when you love someone all you want for that person is to see them happy & his happy moments were few & far between & not for his lack of trying to find a happy place. Having a chemical embalance in the brain makes that difficult even with the best efforts.

So I was just sad for him that he truly did suffer so much in this life. I know that he was tired of fighting for 56 years. How could I be angry or disappointed in that? People who commit suicide don't want to die, they just don't want to be in pain anymore. My father loved me & I know for certain it broke his heart to leave me. He wrote a story about a few years before he died.

Everything in the human spirit wills us to live another day. From the moment we're born & we cry to be taken care of, to be fed. And that continues throughout life, without even being aware we fight to survive another day, in every decision we make. Imagine the incredible pain a person must be in to overcome the natural instinct that we are born with to survive, to fight for one more breath. To be willing to step off of that cliff not knowing what's beyond but knowing that there is no turning back. To say goodbye to everything, no more sunrises or sunsets, no more birds chirping in the morning, nothing that brought you even the smallest bits of pleasure or happiness. That's got to be an incredible amount of pain.

I've had people ask me if I ever think my dad is in hell. The answer is, he already was. This was hell & he escaped.

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Everything in the human spirit wills us to live another day. From the moment we're born & we cry to be taken care of, to be fed. And that continues throughout life, without even being aware we fight to survive another day, in every decision we make. Imagine the incredible pain a person must be in to overcome the natural instinct that we are born with to survive, to fight for one more breath. To be willing to step off of that cliff not knowing what's beyond but knowing that there is no turning back. To say goodbye to everything, no more sunrises or sunsets, no more birds chirping in the morning, nothing that brought you even the smallest bits of pleasure or happiness. That's got to be an incredible amount of pain.

I've had people ask me if I ever think my dad is in hell. The answer is, he already was. This was hell & he escaped.

Thank you for sharing, I don't know you but here's a hug.

Thanks all 🙂 ..... ((HUGS)) back to you!